I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about it.
:-)
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Excerpt from: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb980306.htm
[...]
The most powerful of the Black Nobility families are located in Italy,
Germany, Switzerland, Britain, Holland and Greece in that order. Their
roots may be traced back to the Venetian oligarchs, who are of Khazar
extraction, and married into these royal houses in the early part of
the twelfth century. (Following a great Khazar victory over the Arabs,
the future Emperor, Constantine V, married a Khazar princess and their
son became Emperor Leo IV, also known as "Leo the Khazar". The Medecci
popes, and Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli) were Khazars, as is the present
Pope, John Paul II. Not all Black Nobility are royal houses, and many
of the royal families no longer have kingdoms. According to researcher
and author Dr. John Coleman, a "Committee of 300" was established
early in the eighteenth century, "although it did not take on its
present form until around 1897", (when the China opium trade was
legalised) Theodore Herzl organized this Jewish super-organization at
the First Zionist Congress in Basle, Switzerland. Its purpose was to
manage the political power of Rothschild's huge kingdom which was
rapidly absorbing the wealth of the Gentiles and to realize the
Talmudic perversion that the "Jews" were the "chosen people" and that
God had promised them that they should rule the world (Rothschild
Money Trust, George Armstrong, pp.24-25). It includes the Queen of
Holland, the Queen of Denmark and all the royal families of Europe, or
Black Nobility. It's head today is Queen Elizabeth II.
Documentary proof as to the existence of the "Committee of 300" is not
forthcoming, and it may be no more than a convenient phrase to
describe certain key players. Socialist politician and financial
adviser to the Rothschilds, Walter Rathenau, writing in the Wiener
Press (24 December, 1921) said, "Only 300 men, each of whom knows all
others govern the fate of Europe. They select their successors from
their own entourage. These men have the means in their hands of
putting an end to the form of State which they find unreasonable."
Exactly six months after publication, Rathenau was assassinated.
Dr. Coleman's work opens the door to further studies on named members
of the ruling elite, particularly in America. Whereas the English have
a long history and are very aware of their ancestry, certain families
of "blue-bloods" in the United States that have historic ties with the
British through blood and money.
These "noble" families are behind most if not all of the so-called
pro-environmental movements that are actually intended to curb the
population growth of ALL nations. Prince Philip and Prince Charles are
the most visible symbols of this movement, and are a true part of this
conspiracy to destroy industry and take the world back to a New Dark
Age.
Most if not all the crowned and uncrowned heads of these dynasties
enjoy huge incomes from ground rents. All favor Global 2000 Report to
the President that's calculated to end all industrial progress, and by
famine, disease and wars, eliminate the excess population industry
supports. All oppose nuclear power that can produce clean cheap
electricity, the key to economic development and prosperity in the
Third World. They ardently desire a return to the feudal system where
they will once again be absolute rulers.
While professing Christianity, the oligarchical families, for the
greater part, actually despise it in secret. Masonry provides their
religious fulfillment. And without faith, they have no belief in
reward or punishment and a world to come. They live for the here and
now.
Many of these oligarchies are in the drug and arms trade through
well-distanced intermediaries (like so many of the large banks).
The Masonic-controlled Swiss banks owe their existence to these
families. In 1815 the Jesuits and their Freemason allies among the
crowned heads of Europe held the Congress of Vienna, whereby Swiss
neutrality (already sanctioned by the Peace of Westphalia in 1648) was
forever guaranteed; and no matter how many wars are provoked in which
the common man has to do the fighting, the money of the Nobility in
Switzerland should always be free from plunder. It's part of
Rothschild's meticulous long-range planning, and why Switzerland
exists to this day. But that doesn't mean to say your money would be
safe. Some US$280 billion p.a. in flight capital and drug money flows
into the Swiss accounts of the Black Nobility.
The place of Freemasonry in the power structure of the Elites is quite
evident as they carried through Adam Weishaupt's conspiracy to avenge
the Jesuits after their abolition in 1773 by short-lived Pope Clement
XIV as "immoral and a menace to the Church and the Faith". By
launching the French Revolution and directing Napoleon's conquest of
Catholic Europe, and by revolts against the church in Mexico and Latin
America, they cut-off Vatican income.
Nathan Rothschild's financing of Britain resulted in the defeat of
Rome's enemy Napoleon, (as well as being the source of his wealth and
influence). Since Gregory XVI conferred a Papal decoration on Kalman
Rothschild for loaning the Vatican five million pounds in a period of
difficulty, the Rothschilds have been the fiscal agents of the
Vatican. With Vatican interests at heart, the Rothschilds extended
their financial and political dominion in the United States. The
Vatican's interest in the US was clearly revealed in the secret 1822
Treaty of Verona between Austria, France, Prussia, and Russia whereby
the Jesuit Order pledged itself as the price of reinstatement to
destroy "the works of Satan" it had established in setting-up, by
revolution, representative governments such as the republics and
"democracies" of France and the USA, replacing them with the only form
of government approved by the church, rule by "divine right", as
declared by the Vatican (Daniel 2:42-43; Revelation 17:12-13).
[...]
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I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem to find
any proof...
Jane
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem to find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
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12 Aug 2004 05:34:02 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my husband is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
Jane
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13 Aug 2004 05:49:33 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
Perhaps that is the reason you don't see the proof
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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13 Aug 2004 01:41:45 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my husband is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
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13 Aug 2004 05:39:25 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:0s5mh0149s8ce8gtvfpne4ghpfev7dg64a@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem
to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
I have a very open mind. I've read all kinds of articles on those theories
and haven't been convinced.
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They identify each other that way, but
I've never gotten a good look at what they do. Kinda makes me think of Fred
and Barney and the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos!
Jane
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13 Aug 2004 08:07:44 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem
to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in
the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told
their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
I have a very open mind. I've read all kinds of articles on those
theories
and haven't been convinced.
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my
husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They identify each other that way, but
I've never gotten a good look at what they do. Kinda makes me think of
Fred
and Barney and the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos!
Cuan, that is their strategy! They are real masters in this strategy. As
soon as
someone writes something about an international conspiracy of the
Freemasonry,
the Illuminatie, Bilderberg, the black nobility in Europe and the links
between
all of them this is what you get:
1. Denial. "I never saw any evidence"
If that doesn't work
2. Making jokes about the subject to distract you away from the original
point and to lead away (potential) others that might be very interested
in what you have to say or even tend to believe your story.
If that doesn't work:
3. Attack the poster, ridicule him/her
A lot of evidence can be found on:
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
For examples:
The American 1 dollar bill is full of Freemasonry occultism and no
christianity at all.
The main buildings in Washington DC are build and placed in a certain
way to be part of a satanic worshipping. Look at a streetmap and the
important buildings on that site!
The obelix in Washington is to worship Isis.
Paris means Par Isis, meaning To Isis.
The main road in Paris, the Champs Elysee, between the
Arc Triomphe and the obelix there is precisely orientated
on the rise of Sirius, the star of Osirus, son of Isis.
When the pope addresses the audience he faces an
erected obelix, how strange that a "christian" worships Egypt
and not Israel.
In the flag of the UN you can discover two major things:
1. The Swastika
2. The circelsymbol with all those segments contains exactly
33 segments, that is the hierarchy of one of the rites of Freemasonry.
There are various links between Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Bilderberg
and the Black Nobility in Europe.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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13 Aug 2004 09:13:01 PM |
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Barbarossa wrote:
Making jokes about the subject to
distract you away from the original =A0
point and to lead away (potential) others
that might be very interested =A0 in what
you have to say or even tend to believe
your story.
If that doesn't work:
3. Attack the poster, ridicule him/her
A lot of evidence can be found on:
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
For examples:
The American 1 dollar bill is full of
Freemasonry occultism and no
christianity at all.
The back of the dollar bill has printed on it IN GOD WE TRUST.
So tell me. Was George Washington *in* on all this?
Su Zanne
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14 Aug 2004 09:18:23 AM |
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"Su Zanne" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa wrote:
Making jokes about the subject to
distract you away from the original
point and to lead away (potential) others
that might be very interested in what
you have to say or even tend to believe
your story.
If that doesn't work:
3. Attack the poster, ridicule him/her
A lot of evidence can be found on:
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
For examples:
The American 1 dollar bill is full of
Freemasonry occultism and no
christianity at all.
The back of the dollar bill has printed on it IN GOD WE TRUST.
But which God? Certainly not the Biblical God who created the Heaven
and Earth, their God is Satan. But it would be a little funny if you could
read on your 1 dollar bill where the eye of Isis is on the top of the
piramid
to read "In Satan we trust" or "In Egypt we trust". The American leaders
have always mislead their people so why not on the 1 dollar bill?
So tell me. Was George Washington *in* on all this?
Yes, George Washington was a high ranking Freemason, that's why he
saw no problems in owning and beating up black slaves. There is a
painting of George Washington on the
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
site where he wears the apron of this secret occult and satanic society.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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14 Aug 2004 02:13:07 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 03:07:44 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem
to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in
the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told
their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
I have a very open mind. I've read all kinds of articles on those
theories
and haven't been convinced.
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my
husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They identify each other that way, but
I've never gotten a good look at what they do. Kinda makes me think of
Fred
and Barney and the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos!
Cuan, that is their strategy! They are real masters in this strategy. As
soon as
someone writes something about an international conspiracy of the
Freemasonry,
the Illuminatie, Bilderberg, the black nobility in Europe and the links
between
all of them this is what you get:
1. Denial. "I never saw any evidence"
If that doesn't work
2. Making jokes about the subject to distract you away from the original
point and to lead away (potential) others that might be very interested
in what you have to say or even tend to believe your story.
If that doesn't work:
3. Attack the poster, ridicule him/her
A lot of evidence can be found on:
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
For examples:
The American 1 dollar bill is full of Freemasonry occultism and no
christianity at all.
The main buildings in Washington DC are build and placed in a certain
way to be part of a satanic worshipping. Look at a streetmap and the
important buildings on that site!
The obelix in Washington is to worship Isis.
Paris means Par Isis, meaning To Isis.
The main road in Paris, the Champs Elysee, between the
Arc Triomphe and the obelix there is precisely orientated
on the rise of Sirius, the star of Osirus, son of Isis.
When the pope addresses the audience he faces an
erected obelix, how strange that a "christian" worships Egypt
and not Israel.
In the flag of the UN you can discover two major things:
1. The Swastika
2. The circelsymbol with all those segments contains exactly
33 segments, that is the hierarchy of one of the rites of Freemasonry.
There are various links between Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Bilderberg
and the Black Nobility in Europe.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Thank you for your input. As they would say in the intelligence
community, the above has been "slided" by way of the media into a
state of disbelief. Just reading the thread prior to replying, I can
see that your points mentioned above have already been thoroughly
implemented. As you might say, as with Paris, the layout of
Washington DC and its features is suspect to say the least. I would
still ask, what place does an anceint Egyptian obelisk have in a
modern city such as Washington DC or London? I'm not expecting a
respectable reply from Jane & co.
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Jane wrote:
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They
identify each other that way, but I've
never gotten a good look at what they
do. Kinda makes me think of Fred and
Barney and the Loyal Order of Water
Buffalos!
Maybe you should do what Wilma and Betty did and sneak into a meeting
disguised as a fellow WB so you can spy on them! ;)
Remember the Grand Poo-Ba ??
Su Zanne
Jane
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Jane wrote:
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They
identify each other that way, but I've
never gotten a good look at what they
do. Kinda makes me think of Fred and
Barney and the Loyal Order of Water
Buffalos!
Maybe you should do what Wilma and Betty did and sneak into a meeting
disguised as a fellow WB so you can spy on them! ;)
Remember the Grand Poo-Ba ??
Su Zanne
I don't want to be initiated like they were, haha!
Jane
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14 Aug 2004 02:21:14 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 18:39:25 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never seem
to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
I have a very open mind. I've read all kinds of articles on those theories
and haven't been convinced.
No you don't. You're less than convinced because you haven't, as yet,
encountered any evidence. You might as well consider yourself no more
than an ostrich.
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They identify each other that way, but
I've never gotten a good look at what they do. Kinda makes me think of Fred
and Barney and the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos!
Yeeees, it might as much. Tell you what. You go back to sleep and
let us worry about the future, 'kay?
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14 Aug 2004 06:54:46 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 18:39:25 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:16ooh093q2anorabmjtin6fmfl63na4uj7@4ax.com...
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:0s5mh0149s8ce8gtvfpne4ghpfev7dg64a@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something
about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never
seem
to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in
the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days
later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told
their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
I have a very open mind. I've read all kinds of articles on those
theories
and haven't been convinced.
No you don't. You're less than convinced because you haven't, as yet,
encountered any evidence. You might as well consider yourself no more
than an ostrich.
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my
husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They identify each other that way, but
I've never gotten a good look at what they do. Kinda makes me think of
Fred
and Barney and the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos!
Yeeees, it might as much. Tell you what. You go back to sleep and
let us worry about the future, 'kay?
Tell me why, if all this is true, this elite group you call the Black
Nobility allowed the medical, technological and agricultural advances that
led to the overpopulation of the earth in the first place? Obviously, they
would have been the source of much of the funding for such development and
prominent men of science such as Sir Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were members
of secret societies. Would they not have suppressed these advances or made
use of them only for their own advantage?
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists and over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
Yes, I know Washington was a mason and that there are masonic symbols on US
currency and public buildings. I don't think that "proves" a masonic plot
against the rest of the world. But if there is one, maybe I'll be safe
cause of hubby (yes, I'm being flippant again)!
Jane
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14 Aug 2004 10:19:53 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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<snipped for convienience>
Tell me why, if all this is true, this elite group you call the Black
Nobility allowed the medical, technological and agricultural advances that
led to the overpopulation of the earth in the first place? Obviously,
they
would have been the source of much of the funding for such development and
prominent men of science such as Sir Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were
members
of secret societies. Would they not have suppressed these advances or
made
use of them only for their own advantage?
Here you make a big mistake! The world is not overpopulated at all! The
world
could easily bring food, fresh water and basic survival for three times the
current
population if all wealth, resources, technology and medical resources were
distributed completely fair on this planet. But this is not what the black
nobility,
Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull And Bones and other secret societies want.
They
want to control all medical, technological and aggricultural resourses, so
that
the rest of mankind can be brought to slavery again. Of course Queen Beatrix
wants medical research, she rather lives 90 years instead of 60!
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists and
over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a
grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
One word GREED! As soon you leave God and Jesus Christ the demons
and devils of greed will come along. What does Jesus Chist teaches? When
you have two robes give one to someone who doesn't have a robe. What
does the International Cabal preaches? The militairy industrial complex and
new world order of greed and slavery.
Yes, I know Washington was a mason and that there are masonic symbols on
US
currency and public buildings. I don't think that "proves" a masonic plot
against the rest of the world. But if there is one, maybe I'll be safe
cause of hubby (yes, I'm being flippant again)!
If you know that Washington was a mason then why do you ask in the
first place?
It proves that secret societies have infiltrated to the highest levels and
are in
fact ruling your country. That is why you can choose between two Skull and
Bones members the next election. That is why the media was a slave to Bush
when he WANTED a war with Iraq.
You know, your hubby might be a wonderful guy, very decent etc. If only
he knew in what organization he' gotten himself into! Maybe you should ask
him some questions about the Great Architect of the Universe. Freemasons
seem to believe that any religious person can join the fraternity, because
it is their notion that all people of all religions just pray to the same
God. If
that is a fact then how come Allah has no son(s), you can read that in the
Koran
and the God of the Bible certainly has! Christianity and Freemasonry are not
compatible.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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15 Aug 2004 11:42:22 AM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:411ed656$0$292$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:9DxTc.32790$a65.1315533@news20.bellglobal.com...
<snipped for convienience>
Tell me why, if all this is true, this elite group you call the Black
Nobility allowed the medical, technological and agricultural advances
that
led to the overpopulation of the earth in the first place? Obviously,
they
would have been the source of much of the funding for such development
and
prominent men of science such as Sir Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were
members
of secret societies. Would they not have suppressed these advances or
made
use of them only for their own advantage?
Here you make a big mistake! The world is not overpopulated at all! The
world
could easily bring food, fresh water and basic survival for three times
the
current
population if all wealth, resources, technology and medical resources were
distributed completely fair on this planet.
I'm not so sure about that...
But this is not what the black
nobility,
Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull And Bones and other secret societies want.
They
want to control all medical, technological and aggricultural resourses, so
that
the rest of mankind can be brought to slavery again. Of course Queen
Beatrix
wants medical research, she rather lives 90 years instead of 60!
Yes, but my point was, why make it available to everyone?
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists and
over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a
grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
One word GREED! As soon you leave God and Jesus Christ the demons
and devils of greed will come along. What does Jesus Chist teaches? When
you have two robes give one to someone who doesn't have a robe. What
does the International Cabal preaches? The militairy industrial complex
and
new world order of greed and slavery.
Yes, I know Washington was a mason and that there are masonic symbols on
US
currency and public buildings. I don't think that "proves" a masonic
plot
against the rest of the world. But if there is one, maybe I'll be safe
cause of hubby (yes, I'm being flippant again)!
If you know that Washington was a mason then why do you ask in the
first place?
It proves that secret societies have infiltrated to the highest levels and
are in
fact ruling your country.
Not my country; I'm a pro-American Canuck! It proves only that Washington
and other founders were masons and made use of some of the symbols. Doesn't
mean they rule the world today. Masons do tend to look after their own. I
know for a fact that, in the past, to climb the ladder at General Motors in
Oshawa (Cdn headquarters), you had to be a mason, as the fellows doing the
promoting were all Masons. Some catholic men went to the plant in Quebec to
advance their careers, as you could not be a mason and a catholic at that
time. However, I can state catagorically that being a mason will not
advance your career at GM today.
That is why you can choose between two Skull and
Bones members the next election. That is why the media was a slave to Bush
when he WANTED a war with Iraq.
You know, your hubby might be a wonderful guy, very decent etc. If only
he knew in what organization he' gotten himself into! Maybe you should ask
him some questions about the Great Architect of the Universe. Freemasons
seem to believe that any religious person can join the fraternity, because
it is their notion that all people of all religions just pray to the same
God. If
that is a fact then how come Allah has no son(s), you can read that in the
Koran
and the God of the Bible certainly has! Christianity and Freemasonry are
not
compatible.
We are nominally Christian, but not especially religious. I've heard about
the Great Architect, etc, at Ladies Night dinners, but still think it is all
foolishness!
Jane
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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15 Aug 2004 06:16:06 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:9DxTc.32790$a65.1315533@news20.bellglobal.com...
<snipped for convienience>
Tell me why, if all this is true, this elite group you call the Black
Nobility allowed the medical, technological and agricultural advances
that
led to the overpopulation of the earth in the first place? Obviously,
they
would have been the source of much of the funding for such development
and
prominent men of science such as Sir Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were
members
of secret societies. Would they not have suppressed these advances or
made
use of them only for their own advantage?
Here you make a big mistake! The world is not overpopulated at all! The
world
could easily bring food, fresh water and basic survival for three times
the
current
population if all wealth, resources, technology and medical resources
were
distributed completely fair on this planet.
I'm not so sure about that...
Well, I am.
But this is not what the black
nobility,
Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull And Bones and other secret societies
want.
They
want to control all medical, technological and aggricultural resourses,
so
that
the rest of mankind can be brought to slavery again. Of course Queen
Beatrix
wants medical research, she rather lives 90 years instead of 60!
Yes, but my point was, why make it available to everyone?
Three reasons:
1. In the past and also now the priviledged/elite/nobility were the first
ones
who could reach new developed medications.
2. If you want to gain (great) wealth you need a lot of slaves, you need
healthy slaves. It's not all that much fun to rule/dictate over no one.
3. Contagious diseases can also strike at the leaders of the secret
societies
and the black nobility, so it would be foolish not to distribute
medications.
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists
and
over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a
grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
One word GREED! As soon you leave God and Jesus Christ the demons
and devils of greed will come along. What does Jesus Chist teaches? When
you have two robes give one to someone who doesn't have a robe. What
does the International Cabal preaches? The militairy industrial complex
and
new world order of greed and slavery.
Yes, I know Washington was a mason and that there are masonic symbols
on
US
currency and public buildings. I don't think that "proves" a masonic
plot
against the rest of the world. But if there is one, maybe I'll be
safe
cause of hubby (yes, I'm being flippant again)!
If you know that Washington was a mason then why do you ask in the
first place?
It proves that secret societies have infiltrated to the highest levels
and
are in
fact ruling your country.
Not my country; I'm a pro-American Canuck! It proves only that Washington
and other founders were masons and made use of some of the symbols.
Doesn't
mean they rule the world today. Masons do tend to look after their own.
I
know for a fact that, in the past, to climb the ladder at General Motors
in
Oshawa (Cdn headquarters), you had to be a mason, as the fellows doing the
promoting were all Masons. Some catholic men went to the plant in Quebec
to
advance their careers, as you could not be a mason and a catholic at that
time. However, I can state catagorically that being a mason will not
advance your career at GM today.
They did not make use of "some of the symbols", all symbols they used are
satanic, they're on the American 1 dollar bill. The Eagle for example
representing
the Phoenix, count his feathers on the left, the right and his tale. All
numbers
are satanic numbers. The American flag has 13 stripes! The stars on the flag
are not stars, they are the evil pentagrams. The pentagram which stands for
Mendes the Goathead which is an emanation of Satan. The UN is controled
by Freemasons! The Flag has the circle with the 33 segments, the 33 ranks
in one of the Freemasonry-rites. The emblem of the UN, the star and within
the four pointed star (de morning star, Lucifer) you can discover the
swastika.
The streetmap of Washington is designed in such a manner that only word
fits the descriptions: Satanism. The White House, the mind of the goathead.
Lucifer is seated in the White House. All American presidents were Free-
masons! John F. Kennedy wasn't, he was assasinated and followed by the
Freemason Johnson. Why do you think that princess Diana was murdered?
Because she was a stand in the way of the International Freemasonry who
lead the militairy industrial complex. Why? Because she was a fanatic anti-
mines person! Why do you think Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was murdered?
Because he was up to reveal information about the House of Orange the House
of Orange did not want you to know and most of all: he was not a Freemason
and would have become prime minister if the Dutch elite did not assasinate
him.
Your remarks about GM is futile. It would be difficult to favour Freemasons
in the hierarchy over others if the entire hierarchy is Freemason! Catholics
who become mason are no longer catholics, they do not pray to the God in
the holy Bible, they pray to Satan. They worship Isis an Osirus instead of
Maria and Jesus. Does your hubby has the books of Helena Petrovna
Blavatsky?
That is why you can choose between two Skull and
Bones members the next election. That is why the media was a slave to
Bush
when he WANTED a war with Iraq.
You know, your hubby might be a wonderful guy, very decent etc. If only
he knew in what organization he' gotten himself into! Maybe you should
ask
him some questions about the Great Architect of the Universe. Freemasons
seem to believe that any religious person can join the fraternity,
because
it is their notion that all people of all religions just pray to the
same
God. If
that is a fact then how come Allah has no son(s), you can read that in
the
Koran
and the God of the Bible certainly has! Christianity and Freemasonry are
not
compatible.
We are nominally Christian, but not especially religious. I've heard
about
the Great Architect, etc, at Ladies Night dinners, but still think it is
all
foolishness!
It is deadserious stuff for Freemasons! Freemasonry is religion. They
mislead
their lower ranks into believing that all religions just pray to the same
God, just
using different names. They call that god the great architect of the
universe.
Allah, God, Vishnu and others are just names for the same "thing", how wrong
they are. Allah had no son(s) while God certainly has, a huge contradiction
of
the terms. Feemasonry is religion, it is occultism to the bone, it is the
pagan
religions of ancient Egypt, Rome, Greece, India, China and others. It is in
itself
anti-christian and anti-jews. It is satanic. Just like Islam and
Christianity is not
compatible, so is Christianity and Freemasonry not compatible.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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15 Aug 2004 06:16:34 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 19:54:46 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 18:39:25 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:16ooh093q2anorabmjtin6fmfl63na4uj7@4ax.com...
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:0s5mh0149s8ce8gtvfpne4ghpfev7dg64a@4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:1qakh0l0oh45qtfni27n580aa8u1ufjgnh@4ax.com...
I keep mentioning this, so I thought I should post something
about
it.
:-)
<snip nonsense>
I have read these conspiracy theories time after time but never
seem
to
find
any proof...
Jane
uh...*duh*...I think that is the point, don't you think? This is
possibly why people get assassinated six months after they let their
tounge slip. This is possibly why well decorated Chiefs of Naval
Operations "commit suicide" suddenly when someone questions a
decoration that they happen to be wearing. This is possibly why
politicians who are seasoned skiiers happen to veer off course on a
familiar ski-slope and collide into trees, dying instantly. This is
possibly why alleged presidential rape victims shoot themselves in
the
head nine months after filing charges. This is possibly why
politicians go canooing at midnight only to be found three days
later
drowned - and suddenly a spin appears on the news that they told
their
wives that they weren't feeling well, but they were going to go
canooing anyway...a spin which is later refuted by the wives
themselves.
Sometimes it's not the proof that you don't find, but the proof that
you do find which is questionable. If you go about your lazy life
looking for proof before believing that everything you can't see
really exists, one day a lion is going to jump out the bushes behind
you and have you for lunch.
Well, maybe if you were in Africa. Stop being so naive.
I'm not naive. I think that is the pot calling the kettle black!
Hardly. How can keeping an open mind possibly be considered as being
more naive than burying one's head in the sand?
I have a very open mind. I've read all kinds of articles on those
theories
and haven't been convinced.
No you don't. You're less than convinced because you haven't, as yet,
encountered any evidence. You might as well consider yourself no more
than an ostrich.
Just have never read anything that has convinced me. Oh yeah, my
husband
is
a mason...pretty foolish, imho, but benign.
As you have mentioned before. Perhaps you should read some of the
links that have been posted, rather than dismissing them as "nonsense"
off the bat. A lower degree Mason will never be privy to the greater
mission of the organisation...and if you think that he would be, then
you're delusional. Has he learnt the "secret handshake" yet? ;-)
Yep, there is a secret handshake! They identify each other that way, but
I've never gotten a good look at what they do. Kinda makes me think of
Fred
and Barney and the Loyal Order of Water Buffalos!
Yeeees, it might as much. Tell you what. You go back to sleep and
let us worry about the future, 'kay?
Tell me why, if all this is true, this elite group you call the Black
Nobility allowed the medical, technological and agricultural advances that
led to the overpopulation of the earth in the first place? Obviously, they
would have been the source of much of the funding for such development and
prominent men of science such as Sir Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were members
of secret societies. Would they not have suppressed these advances or made
use of them only for their own advantage?
It might not concern you to know that the pharmaceutical companies are
in the hands of the Committee of 300, as is the World Health
Organisation. They *make money* selling drugs. It might also be safe
to assume that HIV was engineered, as it certainly seems to be a very
'intelligent' virus. A local soap opera on SA television made a very
valid point - if they had developed a cure for AIDS, would they
publish it? Probably not. The pharmaceutical companies are at the
forefront of AIDS research. A cure for AIDS would eliminate two
things - profit, and population reduction. You could argue why they
are giving anti-retrovirals to Africa for free as this would
contradict their supposed mission to turn a profit. I would answer
that a person inflicted with AIDS has many health issues. This
translates to many different medicines. A little anti-retroviral
tablet is simply a drop in the ocean by comparison.
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists and over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
It is not a small group of people. Noticed the upsurge of new
diseases recently? Ebola, SARS, HIV/AIDS, West Nile Virus, Bird Flu,
Mad Cow Disease, Foot and Mouth disease etc...? Ever wondered why
nobody is willing to relieve Africa's debt? It's all about control.
The G8 is in more than a strong enough position to cancel African
countries' debts, yet they don't. All the while, Ethiopians are
starving to death. The Sudanese are being killed on a whim by
unchecked militias. Civil wars rampant in the DRC. African genocides
being "overlooked" by the UN in favour of European ones. Impending
nuclear war. Ever wondered just why, exactly, Clinton made the
"mistake" of giving a nuclear reactor to N.Korea? Russia giving
nuclear technology to Iran? The US giving biological weapons to
Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war? All roads lead to Rome, or the Club
of Rome, for that fact.
Yes, I know Washington was a mason and that there are masonic symbols on US
currency and public buildings. I don't think that "proves" a masonic plot
against the rest of the world.
Au Contraire, it actually does. The Illuminati fostered the Skull
and Bones. The Skull and Bones helped finance the Third Reich, which
was one of the worst genocides in history. Many people died, and not
just Jews, but homosexuals, African nationals and not forgetting the
toll on human life in the armed forces and civillian populations on
both sides. Does that not sound like population reduction to you?
You may ask for proof that the Skull and Bones helped finance the
Third Reich. I'd tell you to stop being so lazy and go Google for it.
Prescott Bush, an undisputed Bonesman, through his company, was
indicted for doing just that, as I mentioned in an earlier post -
which you probably dismissed as "nonsense" before even reading it.
Don't you find it odd that two fully-grown presidential candidates are
part of a secret organisation? You don't dispute the existance of the
Freemasons or the Skull and Bones or their allegience to them. I find
it odd. The fact that this secret organisation has placed their mark
on the dollar bill doesn't raise any eyebrows? There's a subtle
difference between being a member of a club, and being a member of a
secret club which stamps their mark all over the national treasury
system of a country. I find it rather sinister that a *secret*
organisation has so much of an influence on a country, don't you? So
much for "transparency of government" when there's secret societies
running it.
Then, we move ahead to a time when the population has been
significantly reduced, to the time of the microchip implants -
something which will be hailed as the most ingenious invention of all
time, cited as being for the benefit of the citizen. These implants
will allow the authorities to monitor you. They'll know when you walk
into a shopping centre, train station, cinema, or airport
(http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/11.16.00/digitalangel-0046.html).
It will probably be 'sold' to the average American as a technology
necessary in fighting the war on terror. In countries where credit
card fraud and muggings are a major problem, it will probably be
'sold' to them as a means of safe-guarding their money.
Have you actually explored this, or are you just being sceptical for
the sake of being sceptical?
But if there is one, maybe I'll be safe
cause of hubby (yes, I'm being flippant again)!
If your husband is anything less than a 33rd degree Freemason, or at
the very least, still in the lower three degrees, I have only one word
to describe him..."Pawn"
Check-mate.
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15 Aug 2004 12:07:44 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 19:54:46 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 18:39:25 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:34:02 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:42:32 -0400, "Jane"
<pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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<snipped for brevity>
Tell me why, if all this is true, this elite group you call the Black
Nobility allowed the medical, technological and agricultural advances
that
led to the overpopulation of the earth in the first place? Obviously,
they
would have been the source of much of the funding for such development
and
prominent men of science such as Sir Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were
members
of secret societies. Would they not have suppressed these advances or
made
use of them only for their own advantage?
It might not concern you to know that the pharmaceutical companies are
in the hands of the Committee of 300, as is the World Health
Organisation
Cite? (Legitimate cite, not freemasonrywatch or some such site with an
agenda)
They *make money* selling drugs.
Of course they do, and why shouldn't they? They aren't in business to lose
money! Also, the spend $$ in research and are entitled to a payback.
It might also be safe
to assume that HIV was engineered
Again, cite?
, as it certainly seems to be a very
'intelligent' virus.
It's not the first 'intelligent' virus...look at the influenza virus.
A local soap opera on SA television made a very
valid point - if they had developed a cure for AIDS, would they
publish it? Probably not. The pharmaceutical companies are at the
forefront of AIDS research. A cure for AIDS would eliminate two
things - profit, and population reduction. You could argue why they
are giving anti-retrovirals to Africa for free as this would
contradict their supposed mission to turn a profit. I would answer
that a person inflicted with AIDS has many health issues. This
translates to many different medicines. A little anti-retroviral
tablet is simply a drop in the ocean by comparison.
Now, I will grudgingly admit that this scenario of yours is a possibility.
Large corporations of all stripes are amoral. If it suited the bottom line
to hold a cure back, they just might (yes, I can be cynical too).
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists and
over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a
grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
It is not a small group of people. Noticed the upsurge of new
diseases recently? Ebola, SARS, HIV/AIDS, West Nile Virus, Bird Flu,
Mad Cow Disease, Foot and Mouth disease etc...?
One word...evolution. As I said in tw's thread on the subject, one can
watch microbes divide in the lab in moments. What may take eons to evolve
in a higher animal (such as humans) may take hours or days in a microbe. We
have been throwing antibiotics willy-nilly at bacteria and they have evolved
resistance. Shouldn't be a surprise...insects also rapidly develop
resistance to pesticides. It is why smallpox, mainly a disease of childhood
in 16th century Europe, was able to wipe out native American populations who
had never been exposed and never developed resistance.
Another factor in the emergence of viruses, along with evolution, is
encroachment into habitats where men have not gone before. This how they
believe ebola emerged. There is likely a host animal that harbours ebola
without symptoms (as it has become resistant to it), it has just not been
identified yet.
Influenza has always mixed in birds and swine...all it needs is a human form
to mix with the animal form and you have a killer. No surprise that these
bird flus are emerging, if you look at the crowding and proximity of animals
and humans in the Far East. *Most* flu strains have always come out of the
Far East!
Ever wondered why
nobody is willing to relieve Africa's debt? It's all about control.
The G8 is in more than a strong enough position to cancel African
countries' debts, yet they don't. All the while, Ethiopians are
starving to death. The Sudanese are being killed on a whim by
unchecked militias. Civil wars rampant in the DRC. African genocides
being "overlooked" by the UN in favour of European ones.
Yep, no arguement there! Rwanda proved how much the West cares about
Africa. Cdn general Romeo Dallaire begged the UN for assistance when he saw
what was about to happen and they ignored him. The UN is a joke, and not
just on Africa! On Israel, too.
Impending
nuclear war. Ever wondered just why, exactly, Clinton made the
"mistake" of giving a nuclear reactor to N.Korea? Russia giving
nuclear technology to Iran? The US giving biological weapons to
Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war? All roads lead to Rome, or the Club
of Rome, for that fact.
Not so sure...these countries do what is in their interest at the time,
sometimes with later regrets.
Yes, I know Washington was a mason and that there are masonic symbols on
US
currency and public buildings. I don't think that "proves" a masonic
plot
against the rest of the world.
Au Contraire, it actually does. The Illuminati fostered the Skull
and Bones. The Skull and Bones helped finance the Third Reich, which
was one of the worst genocides in history. Many people died, and not
just Jews, but homosexuals, African nationals and not forgetting the
toll on human life in the armed forces and civillian populations on
both sides. Does that not sound like population reduction to you?
You may ask for proof that the Skull and Bones helped finance the
Third Reich. I'd tell you to stop being so lazy and go Google for it.
Prescott Bush, an undisputed Bonesman, through his company, was
indicted for doing just that, as I mentioned in an earlier post -
which you probably dismissed as "nonsense" before even reading it.
Don't you find it odd that two fully-grown presidential candidates are
part of a secret organisation? You don't dispute the existance of the
Freemasons or the Skull and Bones or their allegience to them. I find
it odd. The fact that this secret organisation has placed their mark
on the dollar bill doesn't raise any eyebrows? There's a subtle
difference between being a member of a club, and being a member of a
secret club which stamps their mark all over the national treasury
system of a country. I find it rather sinister that a *secret*
organisation has so much of an influence on a country, don't you? So
much for "transparency of government" when there's secret societies
running it.
See my post to Barbarossa about GM Canada. Yes, masons do tend to look
after their fellow members. Not necessarily sinister, though. Human
nature, in fact.
Then, we move ahead to a time when the population has been
significantly reduced, to the time of the microchip implants -
something which will be hailed as the most ingenious invention of all
time, cited as being for the benefit of the citizen. These implants
will allow the authorities to monitor you. They'll know when you walk
into a shopping centre, train station, cinema, or airport
(http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/11.16.00/digitalangel-0046.html).
It will probably be 'sold' to the average American as a technology
necessary in fighting the war on terror. In countries where credit
card fraud and muggings are a major problem, it will probably be
'sold' to them as a means of safe-guarding their money.
Have you actually explored this, or are you just being sceptical for
the sake of being sceptical?
Yes, I have explored this. I admit to not reading every word on
freemasonrywatch and other such sites because I end up bored to tears in
short order. And I love history!
But if there is one, maybe I'll be safe
cause of hubby (yes, I'm being flippant again)!
If your husband is anything less than a 33rd degree Freemason, or at
the very least, still in the lower three degrees, I have only one word
to describe him..."Pawn"
Check-mate.
Dream on; I don't think so. (I resisted the urge to say, "in your dreams
only", haha) I've refuted most of your arguements, especially the medical
ones, which are explained by simple biology.
Jane
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: The Black Nobility of Europe |
15 Aug 2004 08:23:47 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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<snipped>
Cite? (Legitimate cite, not freemasonrywatch or some such site with an
agenda)
Why is http://www.freemasonrywatch.org not a legitimate site? Only, because
you don't like what is presented there? All sites have an agenda. The agenda
of the sites pro freemasons have an agenda and that is to promote
freemasonry.
The site of CNN has an agenda and that is to publish news (how it happens in
their view) and to promote CNN etcetera. A commercial site also has an
agenda
and that is to promote their products or services.
Freemasonrywatch.org is a good site, it cites from various sources, various
newspapers (around the globe), they cite from various internetsites with no
financial or other disputable connections with them. The only goal this site
has is to expose the international Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull And
Bones,
Black Nobility and other leading forces in this great international cabal.
It's
only goal is to expose that all these secret societies are in fact a
religion. A
pagan, ancient and satanic religion which rejects the idea that the God in
the
Holy Bible is different from other religious systems and reject the idea
that
Jesus Christ is the Son and God is the Father. It has the stupid philosophy
that the Gods in various religious systems can be interchanged, that all
religions
just pray to the same God, but just give Him different names. They ignore
the fact that Allah had no son(s) while God, our Father, certainly has
son(s)
and that Satan is one of them (see the book of Job-Chapter 1) who rebelled
against his Father. It is in fact an antichristian and antisemite occult
religion.
Members of all of those secret societies have funded Nazi Germany too help
it extinct the jews. It's a real shame that the lower ranks of the hierarchy
within
those societies have absolutely no idea what the higher ranks want, mean and
stand for. They are the ones used in charities to give the Freemasonry and
other secret societies like the Rosycrucians a good face. In fact they use
the
same tactics Hamas uses in Israel. Hamas also provides for the poor in Gaza
and the westbank. They also provide suicidebombers with the ammunition!
They *make money* selling drugs.
Of course they do, and why shouldn't they? They aren't in business to
lose
money! Also, the spend $$ in research and are entitled to a payback.
It might also be safe
to assume that HIV was engineered
Again, cite?
, as it certainly seems to be a very
'intelligent' virus.
It's not the first 'intelligent' virus...look at the influenza virus.
A local soap opera on SA television made a very
valid point - if they had developed a cure for AIDS, would they
publish it? Probably not. The pharmaceutical companies are at the
forefront of AIDS research. A cure for AIDS would eliminate two
things - profit, and population reduction. You could argue why they
are giving anti-retrovirals to Africa for free as this would
contradict their supposed mission to turn a profit. I would answer
that a person inflicted with AIDS has many health issues. This
translates to many different medicines. A little anti-retroviral
tablet is simply a drop in the ocean by comparison.
Now, I will grudgingly admit that this scenario of yours is a possibility.
Large corporations of all stripes are amoral. If it suited the bottom
line
to hold a cure back, they just might (yes, I can be cynical too).
I do believe there are grim times ahead, due to overpopulation,
environmental degradation, the end of cheap petroleum (and all that
entails), evolving pathological microbes and wars against islamists and
over
resources (sometimes both at the same time). That it is all part of a
grand
plot by a small group of people is the part I have a problem buying.
It is not a small group of people. Noticed the upsurge of new
diseases recently? Ebola, SARS, HIV/AIDS, West Nile Virus, Bird Flu,
Mad Cow Disease, Foot and Mouth disease etc...?
One word...evolution. As I said in tw's thread on the subject, one can
watch microbes divide in the lab in moments. What may take eons to evolve
in a higher animal (such as humans) may take hours or days in a microbe.
We
have been throwing antibiotics willy-nilly at bacteria and they have
evolved
resistance. Shouldn't be a surprise...insects also rapidly develop
resistance to pesticides. It is why smallpox, mainly a disease of
childhood
in 16th century Europe, was able to wipe out native American populations
who
had never been exposed and never developed resistance.
I don't believe in evolution as it is taught nowadays. But as I understand
it
evolution works without a goal. Don't you think that it is odd that suddenly
so many new virusses spread the world? You see, about 85 years ago there
was this Spanish Flu which was just a mutated normal flu from the East.
In the past 85 years no new influenza was imported from the east! The new
influenzavirusses were mutants of virusses here existing. People in Africa
have
always eaten apemeat. They did not start with that in the 60's or 70's in
the
last century! And there was no problem. No extinction of the entire
population
in Africa was ever reported in history. But suddenly we are to believe that
the
HIV virus comes from tribes in Africa who ate apemeat in which HIV was
existing? That is jus a coverup! Oh, you say, this virus was mutated, nope,
if that had been the case those apes would have gone to extinction too and
such did not happen. The HIV virus was a human creation, just like SARS
and Ebola.
Another factor in the emergence of viruses, along with evolution, is
encroachment into habitats where men have not gone before. This how they
believe ebola emerged. There is likely a host animal that harbours ebola
without symptoms (as it has become resistant to it), it has just not been
identified yet.
Since when is science "believing"?
Influenza has always mixed in birds and swine...all it needs is a human
form
to mix with the animal form and you have a killer. No surprise that these
bird flus are emerging, if you look at the crowding and proximity of
animals
and humans in the Far East. *Most* flu strains have always come out of
the
Far East!
Nope! It's the other way around. *Because* people live mixed with animals
their resistance increases! That is why you don't get chickenpox if you
work
on a farm. If you milk cows daily with your hands you will be exposed to the
other string of poxes and then you get resistance against chickenpox as
well.
There was a sheer balance in nature until the human race fell into sin,
build
ships and plundered the the third world. Bringing home the black plaque and
all other kinds of diseases and exporting them as well.
Ever wondered why
nobody is willing to relieve Africa's debt? It's all about control.
The G8 is in more than a strong enough position to cancel African
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