Galloway v the US Senate
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/uk_politics/2005/05/17/galloway_v_the_us_senate.html
Whatever your view of his defence, it was a barnstorming performance.
George Galloway, Respect MP for Bethnal Green since May 5 and
self-appointed leader of Britain's antiwar movement / Saddam-adoring
demagogue / Portugal-dwelling irrelevance (delete as applicable) was
giving evidence before the US Senate against charges that he profited
financially from Iraqi oil sales.
In a fierce defence, as the anti-war east London MP addressed the Senate
subcommittee he rarely consulted notes and looked the senators in the
eye. Their accusations, he said, amounted to "the mother of all
smokescreens" whose purpose was to obscure alleged US profiteering from
Iraq's oil.
Some highlights:
"I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald
Rumsfeld met him. The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell
him guns and to give him maps the better to target those guns."
"I was an opponent of Saddam Hussein when British and American
governments and businessmen were selling him guns and gas."
"You have nothing on me, Senator, except my name on lists of names from
Iraq, many of which have been drawn up after the installation of your
puppet government in Iraq."
Posted by Jon Dennis at May 17, 2005 05:37 PM
Comments
I have only one word for Galloway "BRAVO" You put those shameless "SIN
NATORS" in hell, when did taking a principle stand against unlawfull
invasion of a soverign state become a crime. Bush and Sadamm should be
the one onm trial not Galloway. And for the lame duck Tony Blair. Labour
Party has just lost my vote to Respect Galloways party.
Comments posted by: Kayode Ogundamisi at May 17, 2005 06:27 PM
The only punch which the senators landed was the jibe about "if we find
out that we received dirty money we usually give it back" [to which the
reply ought to have been "well ask the children who benefited from
Mariam's Appeal to return it then".]
It will be interesting to find out whether those documents are proven to
be forgeries or not when GG has had time to get his lawyers on them...on
the other hand, according to Respect, there are no originals - just some
grainy photocopies of dubious origin.
Clear away victory this afternoon.
Comments posted by: rauchenmachtsehrschnellabhangig at May 17, 2005 06:32 PM
Galloway was predictable. Levin, the ranking Democrat on the committee,
was more exasperated by Galloway than the Republican, Coleman.
I blogged on the broadcast of the hearing....it was disgraceful.
http://democracyguy.typepad.com/democracy_guy_grassroots_/2005/05/cable_news_woul.html
Comments posted by: Tim Russo at May 17, 2005 06:34 PM
.. . . You've gotta admire the old dog but sadly, just 'cos there's no
money doesn't mean you didn't help the regime.
I'm just waiting for him to use the word "indefatigable" . . .
Comments posted by: Uncle Pauly at May 17, 2005 06:34 PM
Bravo Mr. Galloway. As an American opposed to the invasion of Iraq and
the puppet government it instilled, I am glad you have the guts to say
what no other politician will say in the U.S., Republican or Democrat!
Comments posted by: Jason Sweet at May 17, 2005 06:35 PM
Well done to George galloway! A great guy and pride of British politics,
a man of integrity and bottle. The amricans are a joke trying to accuse
other people and divert attention from their own crimes, they stand with
blood still dripping of their hands! George is great!
Comments posted by: Daniel Philips at May 17, 2005 06:35 PM
What a great performance from Galloway, i dont think the senate knew
what hit them. The situtation has provided Galloway the perferct
opportunity to expose the americans war crimes, they are so guilty.
Comments posted by: David Freeman at May 17, 2005 06:38 PM
God bless George Galloway.
I suppose we all opposed the general massacre in Iraq, the robbery of
it's oil and the systematic torture of young Iraqi squadies, and still
do, because we're the ones corrupted by Iraqs oil now in the eyes of the
patriotic American sheeple are we?
I see a French politician has been accused similarly to G.Galloway...
As Hitler said "It is the victors who write history" (possibley to
George Bushes grandpappy, Prescott?), but let me assure you this idea
that 'Might IS right' is the law of the beast.
Comments posted by: Paul Cropper at May 17, 2005 06:39 PM
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17 May 2005 07:47:55 PM |
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This radically Anti-American criminal George Galloway
might as well have handed the Republican majority of
US lawmakers a glistening razor and stretched out his
hate-stained neck: Galloway's going down the HARD way!
On the most popular moderate-to-conservative websites,
like http://www.foxnews.com/, http://www.newsmax.com,
http://www.worldnetdaily.com, http://www.freerepublic.com,
http://www.conservativenews.org, etc. etc., Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network. Galloway is amazingly ignorant,
and is a lousy liar. His life as he knew it is over...
HINT for Mr. Galloway: When the number one wealthiest,
most generous, and most powerful nation in the world
has got your fat bloated derriere in a bloody ringer,
the *STUPIDEST* thing you could have done was to call
them "hawkish zionist christian neocon war criminals"
to their faces on international-broadcast television!
If you thought before that we, as you say, "neocons",
had already found you guilty before you had a chance
to defend yourself; if that's what you thought before,
the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Permanent Investigations Subcommittee, who questioned
you about your substantial and illegal receipt of the
Oil-for-Food vouchers, the subcommittee is guaranteed
to throw the BOOK at you & your Anti-American buddies
over there in the Al-Qaeda network-supporting Eurabia!
Buy RED! Boycott BLUE! And SUPPORT The "Nuclear" Option!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.geocities.com/daniel_joseph_min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
some left-wing liberal wanker barfed:
Galloway
http://b...html
<snipped grossly-distorted liberal wankage>
"'God is dead'-Nietzsche
'Nietzsche is dead'-God'"
-Tombs Restaurant in D.C.
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17 May 2005 09:56:57 PM |
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"Daniel Joseph Min" <Real.Min@Colorado.USA> wrote in message
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<*SNIP PREDICTIBLE WANKAGE*>
....
HINT for Mr. Galloway: When the number one wealthiest,
most generous, and most powerful nation in the world
has got your fat bloated derriere in a bloody ringer,
the *STUPIDEST* thing you could have done was to call
them "hawkish zionist christian neocon war criminals"
to their faces on international-broadcast television!
Oh, I suppose he was meant to kowtow for the Senate? Fat chance... the man
fucking OWNED your asses. One man, versus an entire political party, yet
they were unable to shoot him down, and infact were shot down by him
(figurativly speaking of course)... he destroyed them.
It was the *BEST* thing he could have done. He set fire to the house of
cards that is the American story of pre-war sanctions busters. Bravo! You
far-right nationalist's can bleat and squeal all you like about what has
happened here, but this is clearly a victory for truth. To that end, by
sticking to the lies fed to you by your overlords, you make yourself look
like their pet parrot... which to you, I'm sure is a favourable proposition.
SQUAWK!
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17 May 2005 10:30:46 PM |
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"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@linknet.com.au> Spat the Words
"Daniel Joseph Min" <Real.Min@Colorado.USA> wrote in message
news:SNXQC5ZZ38490.3666087963@reece.net.au...
<*SNIP PREDICTIBLE WANKAGE*>
...
HINT for Mr. Galloway: When the number one wealthiest,
most generous, and most powerful nation in the world
has got your fat bloated derriere in a bloody ringer,
the *STUPIDEST* thing you could have done was to call
them "hawkish zionist christian neocon war criminals"
to their faces on international-broadcast television!
Oh, I suppose he was meant to kowtow for the Senate? Fat chance... the
man fucking OWNED your asses. One man, versus an entire political
party, yet they were unable to shoot him down, and infact were shot down
by him (figurativly speaking of course)... he destroyed them.
It was the *BEST* thing he could have done. He set fire to the house of
cards that is the American story of pre-war sanctions busters. Bravo!
But the pre-war US decisions aren't at issue in this particular
Senate committee. If they have anything on him then his goose is
cooked. He may appear a hero to many but he may just wind up roast
bird meat. Such is the fate of many who confront 'The Committee'.
You far-right nationalist's can bleat and squeal all you like about what
has happened here, but this is clearly a victory for truth.
The victory for truth may just be won by the Senate investigators
if this Galloway guy had his hands dirty. We'll know more as facts
emerge. It's very hard to lie to a Senate committee and get away
with it.
To that
end, by sticking to the lies fed to you by your overlords, you make
yourself look like their pet parrot... which to you, I'm sure is a
favourable proposition.
SQUAWK!
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19 May 2005 05:20:47 PM |
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But the pre-war US decisions aren't at issue in this particular
Senate committee. If they have anything on him then his goose is
cooked. He may appear a hero to many but he may just wind up roast
bird meat. Such is the fate of many who confront 'The Committee'.
If the US had any real facts they would have produced them. Currently it
looks like the US is attempting to punish anyone who stood in the way of the
US war on Iraq.
The victory for truth may just be won by the Senate investigators
if this Galloway guy had his hands dirty. We'll know more as facts
emerge. It's very hard to lie to a Senate committee and get away
with it.
If Galloway had his hands dirty, the proof would be over wealming, it is
not, however the US should explain what has happened to the oil which G.W.
Bush said he would protect.
Daniel
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18 May 2005 10:25:42 AM |
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Chuckles. In my televised tour of the Senate debate
on the Nuclear option the majority of everybody are
speaking out in support of destroying the Democrats
altogether. And in my "tour" of Galloway's imminent,
well-earned and perfectly legal railroading through
our federal system finds Galloway GUILTY as charged.
Cheers!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.geocities.com/daniel_joseph_min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
"Douglas Clark" wrote:
In my tour of the Bath pubs today everybody was drinking George's health.
Douglas Clark, Bath, Somerset, England ....
"There's nothing like a good, clean kill!"
--Peter Sellers, 'The Magic Christian'
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18 May 2005 11:19:13 AM |
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"Daniel Joseph Min" <Real.Min@Colorado.USA> wrote in message
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Chuckles. In my televised tour of the Senate debate
on the Nuclear option the majority of everybody are
speaking out in support of destroying the Democrats
altogether. And in my "tour" of Galloway's imminent,
well-earned and perfectly legal railroading through
our federal system finds Galloway GUILTY as charged.
same lies different day
Cheers!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.geocities.com/daniel_joseph_min
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7
"Douglas Clark" wrote:
In my tour of the Bath pubs today everybody was drinking George's health.
Douglas Clark, Bath, Somerset, England ....
"There's nothing like a good, clean kill!"
--Peter Sellers, 'The Magic Christian'
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17 May 2005 08:51:25 PM |
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
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17 May 2005 10:16:43 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
LOL
You should talk! Al-Jazeera is immeasurably more reliable than WND, not to
mention Fox and CNN.
Stat.
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17 May 2005 10:40:48 PM |
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
LOL
You should talk! Al-Jazeera is immeasurably more reliable than WND, not to
mention Fox and CNN.
Stat.
Al-Jaqueera, realiable? Well, yes. I guess if you think Baghdad Bob is
reliable (as in, he tells the same lies over and over again), I guess you could
consider them to be reliable.
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17 May 2005 11:41:20 PM |
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
LOL
You should talk! Al-Jazeera is immeasurably more reliable than WND, not
to
mention Fox and CNN.
Stat.
Al-Jaqueera, realiable? Well, yes. I guess if you think Baghdad Bob is
reliable (as in, he tells the same lies over and over again), I guess you
could
consider them to be reliable.
Looks like someone has been neglecting their research again. lol
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17 May 2005 11:45:29 PM |
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
LOL
You should talk! Al-Jazeera is immeasurably more reliable than WND, not
to mention Fox and CNN.
Stat.
Al-Jaqueera, realiable? Well, yes. I guess if you think Baghdad Bob is
reliable (as in, he tells the same lies over and over again), I guess you
could consider them to be reliable.
In all fairness, Al-Jazeera tells many less lies than the corporate media.
Some of the stories they tell just seem so incredible that one might assume
they are making them up. I can remember when about two years ago they had
people on talking about Americans using torture on Afghans and Iraqis, many
people just brushed it off as anti-American propaganda. But then a year
later, it turned out they weren't just hiring actors to tell these stories.
Al-Jazeera is a very low budget, no frills network of journalists, working
in extremely difficult conditions. They sometimes might get over zealous,
and they sometimes have their own biases. But I don't know of any cases that
Al-Jazeera has intentionally tried to mislead the public. Compare this to
your typical corporate media outlet in the US where day after day they go on
the same tirade of propaganda and misinformation. It's gotten so bad now
that many journalists with a grain of integrity are just walking off. Last
weekend the second National Conference on Media Reform was held in Missouri.
You should hear some of the testimonies and stories that were being told.
It's just incredible, and it wasn't even Al-Jazeera covering it.
Stat.
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18 May 2005 01:03:55 AM |
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
LOL
You should talk! Al-Jazeera is immeasurably more reliable than WND, not to
mention Fox and CNN.
Stat.
Al-Jaqueera, realiable? Well, yes. I guess if you think Baghdad Bob is
reliable (as in, he tells the same lies over and over again), I guess you
could consider them to be reliable.
In all fairness, Al-Jazeera tells many less lies than the corporate media.
How many Arab militias did you survey before you came to that conclusion?
Some of the stories they tell just seem so incredible that one might assume
they are making them up. I can remember when about two years ago they had
people on talking about Americans using torture on Afghans and Iraqis, many
people just brushed it off as anti-American propaganda. But then a year later,
it turned out they weren't just hiring actors to tell these stories.
Torture has many definitions. Piling a bunch of naked people on the floor and
taking their picture may be reprehensible abuse of power, but to call that
torture simply lacks credibility.
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| User: "tw" |
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18 May 2005 04:12:01 AM |
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
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Galloway's
worn-out "neocon" Bush-bashing diatribe sounds exactly
like it was written for Usama bin Laden to deliver over
the Al-Jazeera network
Al-Jazeera where one can trust opinion ;)
LOL
You should talk! Al-Jazeera is immeasurably more reliable than WND,
not to
mention Fox and CNN.
Stat.
Al-Jaqueera, realiable? Well, yes. I guess if you think Baghdad Bob
is
reliable (as in, he tells the same lies over and over again), I guess
you
could consider them to be reliable.
In all fairness, Al-Jazeera tells many less lies than the corporate
media.
How many Arab militias did you survey before you came to that conclusion?
How much Al-Jazeera programming did you watch before you came to yours?
Some of the stories they tell just seem so incredible that one might
assume
they are making them up. I can remember when about two years ago they
had
people on talking about Americans using torture on Afghans and Iraqis,
many
people just brushed it off as anti-American propaganda. But then a year
later,
it turned out they weren't just hiring actors to tell these stories.
Torture has many definitions. Piling a bunch of naked people on the floor
and
taking their picture may be reprehensible abuse of power, but to call that
torture simply lacks credibility.
Psychological abuse isn't torture? You may find the Geneva Convention
disagrees..
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18 May 2005 01:36:09 AM |
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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Torture has many definitions. Piling a bunch of naked people on the floor
and taking their picture may be reprehensible abuse of power, but to call
that torture simply lacks credibility.
I disagree.
When someone (the perpetrator) performs any act against another (the
victim), and the act is degrading the victim based on contravening
culturally accepted norms, then it serves no other purpose than to inflict
distress on the victim.
Torture doesn't have to involve physical abuse to be torture. The real
problem with the acts carried out at Abu Ghraib, is that they encroach on
locally accepted social standards, and seek to strip the victims of dignity
based on this fact.
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| User: "George" |
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18 May 2005 01:42:56 AM |
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"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@linknet.com.au> wrote in message
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"George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
news:fVAie.3088$796.1867@attbi_s21...
...
Torture has many definitions. Piling a bunch of naked people on the floor
and taking their picture may be reprehensible abuse of power, but to call
that torture simply lacks credibility.
I disagree.
When someone (the perpetrator) performs any act against another (the
victim), and the act is degrading the victim based on contravening
culturally accepted norms, then it serves no other purpose than to inflict
distress on the victim.
Torture doesn't have to involve physical abuse to be torture. The real
problem with the acts carried out at Abu Ghraib, is that they encroach on
locally accepted social standards, and seek to strip the victims of dignity
based on this fact.
Sorry. Local standards don't apply to international law. Locally accepted
standards in Iraq seems to be to behead people, or to throw them into mulching
macnhines while their families watch. What our troops did was tame in
comparison.
Main Entry: 1tor·ture
Pronunciation: 'tor-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from Late Latin tortura, from Latin tortus, past participle
of torquEre to twist; probably akin to Old High German drAhsil turner, Greek
atraktos spindle
1 a : anguish of body or mind : AGONY b : something that causes agony or pain
2 : the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to
punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
3 : distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : STRAINING
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