http://www.msnbc.com/news/1002015.asp?cp1=1
"IF the ice cap in Greenland and the Arctic continues to melt at its current
rate, Europe's temperatures would take a sharp dip after five or more
decades of increasingly warm weather. That turnaround could spell trouble
for regions that by then will have adapted to more tropical conditions, the
experts told reporters Friday at a U.N. climate change conference here."
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| User: "Mark" |
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08 Dec 2003 12:08:04 AM |
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Yup. US experts finally agree.
Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is today.
Two, three generations... not much time.
For the school kids out there...
1. Calculate the radiant heat that a single person gives off in a 24 hour
day...
2. Multiply by 6 billion...
3. What is the impact (in BTU) on the global climate in a years time?
;)
"Doug" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/1002015.asp?cp1=1
"IF the ice cap in Greenland and the Arctic continues to melt at its
current
rate, Europe's temperatures would take a sharp dip after five or more
decades of increasingly warm weather. That turnaround could spell trouble
for regions that by then will have adapted to more tropical conditions,
the
experts told reporters Friday at a U.N. climate change conference here."
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| User: "tw" |
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09 Dec 2003 05:53:53 AM |
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"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Yup. US experts finally agree.
Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is today.
What the.. you do realise that melting icecaps will result in a *lot* more
water don't you?
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| User: "Somewhere up north" |
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09 Dec 2003 03:46:26 PM |
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"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message
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"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Yup. US experts finally agree.
Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is
today.
What the.. you do realise that melting icecaps will result in a *lot* more
water don't you?
Actually, the melting of the ice caps could very well result in an ice age.
That much fresh water at the poles would reduce and divert the great ocean
heat conveyors in such a way that they would not reach as far north as they
currently do.
For a good example of this, look what happened at the end of the last ice
age when a huge freshwater lake made broke trough the ocean in eastern North
America. Stopped the warming cold and instigated another period of
glaciations before things warmed up again.
Not to say that this would be the same, but any time you bring systems to
the point of instability you will tend to see extremes.
Al
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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08 Dec 2003 12:23:10 AM |
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:08:04 GMT, "Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Yup. US experts finally agree.
Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is today.
Two, three generations... not much time.
For the school kids out there...
1. Calculate the radiant heat that a single person gives off in a 24 hour
day...
2. Multiply by 6 billion...
3. What is the impact (in BTU) on the global climate in a years time?
;)
Now you know why those pickled old men around Bush don't give a *****.
One, they know it's true, and know that this is the last century for
Man. They also know they'll be dead by the time it happens.
The NeoCons are too busy raping the Mid-East for fun and profit and
for "their" agenda to care anyway.
"Doug" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:EwNAb.14620$P%1.13586037@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
http://www.msnbc.com/news/1002015.asp?cp1=1
"IF the ice cap in Greenland and the Arctic continues to melt at its
current
rate, Europe's temperatures would take a sharp dip after five or more
decades of increasingly warm weather. That turnaround could spell trouble
for regions that by then will have adapted to more tropical conditions,
the
experts told reporters Friday at a U.N. climate change conference here."
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| User: "Mark" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming |
08 Dec 2003 12:47:00 AM |
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:08:04 GMT, "Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Yup. US experts finally agree.
Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is today.
Two, three generations... not much time.
For the school kids out there...
1. Calculate the radiant heat that a single person gives off in a 24
hour
day...
2. Multiply by 6 billion...
3. What is the impact (in BTU) on the global climate in a years time?
;)
Now you know why those pickled old men around Bush don't give a *****.
One, they know it's true, and know that this is the last century for
Man. They also know they'll be dead by the time it happens.
The NeoCons are too busy raping the Mid-East for fun and profit and
for "their" agenda to care anyway.
I blame the Judeo-Christian ethic... it removes responsibility for our
actions. Come to think of it, I blame all religious beliefs.. all of them
remove 'Responsibility'.
The Norse... now THEY had a belief worthy of belief!!!
But don't worry... a Saviour will be here soon...saving all of us that are
worth saving.
:(
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| User: "Ex." |
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08 Dec 2003 08:13:16 AM |
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"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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: "Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
: news:n268tv0r49acn5p90d7coj5eokrgvsvgo7@4ax.com...
: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:08:04 GMT, "Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net>
: > wrote:
: >
: > >Yup. US experts finally agree.
: > >
: > >Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is
today.
: > >
: > >Two, three generations... not much time.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > >For the school kids out there...
: > >
: > >1. Calculate the radiant heat that a single person gives off in a 24
: hour
: > >day...
: > >2. Multiply by 6 billion...
: > >3. What is the impact (in BTU) on the global climate in a years time?
: > >;)
: >
: > Now you know why those pickled old men around Bush don't give a *****.
: > One, they know it's true, and know that this is the last century for
: > Man. They also know they'll be dead by the time it happens.
: > The NeoCons are too busy raping the Mid-East for fun and profit and
: > for "their" agenda to care anyway.
:
: I blame the Judeo-Christian ethic... it removes responsibility for our
: actions. Come to think of it, I blame all religious beliefs.. all of them
: remove 'Responsibility'.
: The Norse... now THEY had a belief worthy of belief!!!
This isn't the case for Buddhism.
:
: But don't worry... a Saviour will be here soon...saving all of us that are
: worth saving.
: :(
:
:
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| User: "Mark" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming |
08 Dec 2003 11:07:20 AM |
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"Ex." <Eat.Healthy@Turdmail.com> wrote in message
news:br20u602m16@enews1.newsguy.com...
"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:E7VAb.5352$rP6.4245@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
: "Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
: news:n268tv0r49acn5p90d7coj5eokrgvsvgo7@4ax.com...
: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:08:04 GMT, "Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net>
: > wrote:
: >
: > >Yup. US experts finally agree.
: > >
: > >Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is
today.
: > >
: > >Two, three generations... not much time.
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > >For the school kids out there...
: > >
: > >1. Calculate the radiant heat that a single person gives off in a 24
: hour
: > >day...
: > >2. Multiply by 6 billion...
: > >3. What is the impact (in BTU) on the global climate in a years
time?
: > >;)
: >
: > Now you know why those pickled old men around Bush don't give a *****.
: > One, they know it's true, and know that this is the last century for
: > Man. They also know they'll be dead by the time it happens.
: > The NeoCons are too busy raping the Mid-East for fun and profit and
: > for "their" agenda to care anyway.
:
: I blame the Judeo-Christian ethic... it removes responsibility for our
: actions. Come to think of it, I blame all religious beliefs.. all of
them
: remove 'Responsibility'.
: The Norse... now THEY had a belief worthy of belief!!!
This isn't the case for Buddhism.
Hmmm... possibly not.
But it seems that even the original precepts of Buddhism have been
subjugated... in order to subjugate.
The original teaching;
1.
"Life is imperfect... all things created are impermanent."
"All things are interconnected and interdependent, nothing has a separate
existence."
2.
"Because we are interconnected, yet imperfect and impermanent, we seek to
cleave to other things in our *desire* to be perfect and permanent."
3.
"It is our refusal (deliberate avoidance) to understand the impermanence of
existance, and our 'desire' to be perfect and permanent that is the cause of
all suffering"
Well! Can't argue with any of that, and in fact have come to embrace the
concept the more I learn about our Universe and its creation.
However, that original teaching has become somewhat twisted in many of the
Buddhist teachings to mean something more along the lines of "Learn to
endure your suffering, for in Reality, your suffering does not exist... YOU
do not exist as you believe you exist"... in other words, 'You're existance
isn't real, and soon you will not exist'... so just wait out the suffering
and it will be over.
Once again... we find that we are absolved of any responsibility for our
actions and \ or thoughts while we physically exist.... we are granted
ammunity from taking no action against evil, or in correcting wrongs as we
percieve them to occur..
Gone is the belief that "A wrong done to one, is a wrong done to all".
This is the accepted teaching of the Buddha.
"To do no evil;
To cultivate good;
To purify one's mind."
Since all things are interconnected and nothing has a separate existence...
then a wrong or an evil done against you is also a wrong against ME...
Further... if nothing has a separate existance, then the person that is
doing a wrong towards you, is actually ME.. and only *I* can stop it. And
stop it I must, for that is the first precept "Do no Evil".
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming |
09 Dec 2003 05:56:51 AM |
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"Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n268tv0r49acn5p90d7coj5eokrgvsvgo7@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:08:04 GMT, "Mark" <mburggra1@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Yup. US experts finally agree.
Global warming is real. Water will be the commodity that 'oil' is
today.
Two, three generations... not much time.
For the school kids out there...
1. Calculate the radiant heat that a single person gives off in a 24
hour
day...
2. Multiply by 6 billion...
3. What is the impact (in BTU) on the global climate in a years time?
;)
Now you know why those pickled old men around Bush don't give a *****.
One, they know it's true, and know that this is the last century for
Man. They also know they'll be dead by the time it happens.
The NeoCons are too busy raping the Mid-East for fun and profit and
for "their" agenda to care anyway.
I blame the Judeo-Christian ethic...
eh?
it removes responsibility for our
actions.
How?
Come to think of it, I blame all religious beliefs.. all of them
remove 'Responsibility'.
Ok
The Norse... now THEY had a belief worthy of belief!!!
But I thought you blamed ALL religious belief? Are you talkin asatru by the
way? Only seems to be neo-nazis and spotty metallers who are into that
dungeons and dragons ***** these days. Quite why it is more wothy of
belief than any of the myriad of animalist/shamanic religions that existed
all over Europe is a mystery to me.
But don't worry... a Saviour will be here soon...saving all of us that are
worth saving.
What?
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