The Australian Defense minister Robert Hill explains to you the
situation in Baghdad as he has seen it just last Friday.
Baghdad Green Zone has been turned to Red Zone by the Iraqi Resistance.
The insurgency is really quite intensive and extensive, Robert Hill
says
US forces are either moving on streets and getting ambushed or setting
in their bases and receiving hits. This perhaps what the Pentagon meant
when said it is one sided battle!
This is a good statement:
"I would have (travelled into central Baghdad) if we'd had a
helicopter, but they were being used for more important tasks."
He says: " if we'd had a helicopter"
Now are we to believe that the US forces do not have one single standby
helicopter reserved for high officials such as the Australian Defense
minister.
The fact is that Robert Hill is indirectly confirming the Resistance
claim that they were able to force US helicopters to ground. But even
if he is telling the truth that there is no single helicopter
available, it is still very good news. All it means that the entire
Triangle of Death is burning and the US was forced to use every single
helicopter it has in Iraq. very good.
Remember, Iraqi resistance is no joke. Last April they defeated the
almighty US army and put the US nose in the dust. Fallujah battle isn't
over yet. So keep yourself ready to accept another defeat. Don't
beleive everything you read in Jew York Times.
Baghdad worse than ever, says Hill
By Patrick Walters
December 6, 2004
ROBERT Hill has learnt first-hand the new perils involved in visiting
strife-torn Baghdad.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11597627%255E401,00.html
Such has been the escalation of violence in the run-up to the January
30 elections that for the first time in four visits, the Defence
Minister could not make it to the centre of the Iraqi capital last
Friday.
So dangerous has the main highway to and from the airport become, with
daily suicide bomb attacks, he did not visit the Australian embassy or
the Green Zone that comprises the headquarters of the US-led coalition
forces in Iraq.
"This is the first time I've been unable to do that. It's very
dangerous - a number of countries are no longer travelling along it,"
Senator Hill told The Australian yesterday.
"I would have (travelled into central Baghdad) if we'd had a
helicopter, but they were being used for more important tasks."
Senator Hill's visit coincided with a surge of violence in Iraq that
killed more than 60 people over the weekend and led senior UN official
Lakhdar Brahimi to warn that holding elections would be "impossible" in
the current security environment.
Senator Hill acknowledged Iraq's central area, including Baghdad, was
going through a "very difficult phase".
"I would say it's more violent than on any of my previous visits," he
said.
"It's a more dangerous place than it's been since the downfall of
Saddam's regime. The insurgency is really quite intensive and
extensive."
Instead of making the hazardous run into the city, Senator Hill
travelled in an armoured convoy to the US-run Camp Victory, a short
distance from Baghdad airport.
In a day-long visit, he discussed security in Iraq and
counter-insurgency operations with General George Casey, the overall
commander of the US-led multinational forces in Iraq, and the deputy
chief of staff for strategic operations, Major General Jim Molan.
The two officers canvassed possible future roles for Australia's
military in training Iraq's security forces in the areas of logistics
support and senior officer training. A 50-strong Australian army
advisory team will complete its training of three Iraqi battalions
early in the new year.
Accompanied by Australia's special forces commander, Major General Mike
Hindmarsh, Senator Hill also met Australian ambassador Howard Brown and
Air Commodore Greg Evans, the new commander of Australian forces in the
Middle East.
Senator Hill said General Casey had told him the taking of Fallujah was
a critical step in overcoming the largely Sunni-backed insurgency.
But with insurgents lacking a centralised command structure, military
operations would continue with a key goal being to support the
counter-insurgency capabilities of the Iraqis themselves.
"There is a view among the Sunnis and those who were part of Saddam's
regime that not only have they lost, but they will continue to lose
through the building of a new democratic system," Senator Hill said.
"They are are fighting back, and they see the January 30 national
elections as a critical event."
He said one of the biggest changes of recent months was the extent of
intimidation against those who supported Iraq's democratisation
process, and against their families.
But there was determination the elections would go ahead, with the key
issue still the participation of the major Sunni political parties.
"There's no doubt the majority of Iraqis want the elections, but
there's still going to be major challenges in relations to the Sunni
triangle," he said. "There is a greater risk in the insurgents being
seen to be winning a deferral. You run the risk of further undermining
the confidence of the majority of Iraqis."
At a weekend conference in Bahrain, Senator Hill met US President
George W. Bush's new national security adviser Stephen Hadley and his
Iraqi counterpart Qassim Daud.
The Australian
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Gunfight breaks out in Baghdad [near Green Zone]
By Paul Garwood in Baghdad, Iraq
07dec04
A HEAVY gunfight broke out on a dangerous street in central Baghdad
within blocks of the country's most fortified facilities, including the
US Embassy and interim Iraqi government headquarters.
Six more American troops were killed in the volatile Anbar province.
more...
http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11620644%255E1702,00.html
They are still waiting for the "flowers"
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/7022/83-1101605557.jpg
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/5844/1101605556.jpg
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08 Dec 2004 12:32:49 AM |
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"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What a moron. An enemy propagandist, too.
The Australian Defense minister Robert Hill explains to you the
situation in Baghdad as he has seen it just last Friday.
Baghdad Green Zone has been turned to Red Zone by the Iraqi Resistance.
No it hasn't.
The insurgency is really quite intensive and extensive, Robert Hill
says
No it isn't.
US forces are either moving on streets and getting ambushed or setting
in their bases and receiving hits. This perhaps what the Pentagon meant
when said it is one sided battle!
No they aren't. And, as is obvious to the entire world, what they meant was
that the muslims have proven beyond all doubt that they are the worst, most
ineffective, most incompetant, and most cowardly warriors in the history of
the world. This fact is plainly obvious to anyone who compares them to any
other warriors in history.
This is a good statement:
"I would have (travelled into central Baghdad) if we'd had a
helicopter, but they were being used for more important tasks."
He says: " if we'd had a helicopter"
Now are we to believe that the US forces do not have one single standby
helicopter reserved for high officials such as the Australian Defense
minister.
We have lots of helicopters. His cowardice prevented him from driving
there. We don't provide our helicopters to people just because they ask for
one, moron. He isn't the president, he's an Australian official. He was
provided with transportation which he refused. He doesn't get a helicopter
just because he asks for one.
The fact is that Robert Hill is indirectly confirming the Resistance
claim that they were able to force US helicopters to ground.
No he isn't, why don't you ask him about it instead of making up your own
conspiracy theories.
But even
if he is telling the truth that there is no single helicopter
available, it is still very good news.
There were dozens of helicopter available, he doesn't get one just because
he asks for one.
All it means that the entire
Triangle of Death is burning and the US was forced to use every single
helicopter it has in Iraq. very good.
No it doesn't. It only means that the US military is not his personal
limosine service, idiot.
Remember, Iraqi resistance is no joke.
Yes it is. It's a hilarious joke. They have proven beyond any doubt that
they are the absolute worst warriors in the history of the world. That fact
is blatantly obvious with only a passing look at the facts.
Last April they defeated the
almighty US army and put the US nose in the dust.
No they didn't. Whining propagandists like you convinced them to
voluntarily halt the operation temporarily. If we had wanted to take
Fallujah in April, we would have done so just as easily as we did recently.
We won't make the mistake of allowing the propagandists to win again, thus
allowing them to claim a victory for the incompetant terrorists/insurgents
as you are attempting to do. That was a huge mistake, as you have just
proven with this lie you are trying to tell. From now on the enemy
propagandists can cry and whine all we want and it will have no effect. You
won't have any more straws to grab at for your lies anymore. Deal with it,
liar.
Fallujah battle isn't
over yet.
Yes it is.
So keep yourself ready to accept another defeat. Don't
beleive everything you read in...
We haven't suffered any defeats yet, so it would be impossible to suffer
"another" one.
...Jew York Times.
Thanks for that, now everyone knows that everything you said is a lie. Good
work, moron.
Your obvious propaganda is never going to work. Surrender or die, your time
is running out...
--
22: 40. Permission to take up arms is given to those against whom war is
made, because they have been wronged and Allah, indeed, has power to help
them. - Holy Qur'an
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08 Dec 2004 11:41:02 AM |
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Kavik Kang wrote:
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
...Jew York Times.
Thanks for that, now everyone knows that
everything you said is a lie.
You moron don't think that everyone is a dumb ***** like you. I didn't
make up anything. The comments I made are based on the news report
included in the same post. Is it a big deal for anyone to scroll the
page and verify whether or not I am telling the truth?
..
..
..
Keep watching the morons' channel FoxJews...
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
10 Dec 2004 04:51:46 PM |
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Daylight a écrit:
Kavik Kang wrote:
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
...Jew York Times.
Thanks for that, now everyone knows that
everything you said is a lie.
You moron don't think that everyone is a dumb ***** like you. I didn't
make up anything. The comments I made are based on the news report
included in the same post. Is it a big deal for anyone to scroll the
page and verify whether or not I am telling the truth?
.
.
.
Keep watching the morons' channel FoxJews...
Yes we know, so you are an anti-semite. All you say is still pure lies
demonstrated masterfully point by point which is why you snipped it off...
You are a disgrace to the human race daylight.
J.
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| User: "Daylight" |
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11 Dec 2004 12:50:50 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Daylight a =E9crit:
Kavik Kang wrote:
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
...Jew York Times.
Thanks for that, now everyone knows that
everything you said is a lie.
You moron don't think that everyone is a dumb ***** like you. I
didn't
make up anything. The comments I made are based on the news report
included in the same post. Is it a big deal for anyone to scroll
the
page and verify whether or not I am telling the truth?
.
.
.
Keep watching the morons' channel FoxJews...
Yes we know, so you are an anti-semite.
All you say is still pure lies
demonstrated masterfully point by point
which is why you snipped it off...
You are also a moron. A dumb ***** too. How come you say I am telling
lies if the source that I have commented on is already included in the
original post! Hey, the US has no control on anything in Iraq. This is
the truth. Accepting this fact from me, from somebody else or rejecting
it all together will no change the situation on ground...
Another source. In case you missed it:
CNN NEWSNIGHT AARON BROWN
Aired November 26, 2004 - 22:00 ET
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/26/asb.01.html
.. . .
BROWN: Just one final big-picture question. You've been in and out of
there for two years. You'll be back in there probably sooner than you
want. Do you have a sense that, on the military side, progress is being
made?
WARE: To put it simply, no. No, I don't. I mean, I don't have any sense
of victory or a sense that the coalition, that the West is winning
right now.
I mean, it seems to me we're losing ground, figuratively and literally.
Just from my own example, six -- nine months ago, I could travel the
breadth of Iraq. Sure, it was dangerous, it was risky, but it was
calculated. Then that ceased. And I was restricted to Baghdad itself.
And the only way I could leave Baghdad was if the insurgents took me
and guaranteed my safety.
Now I can't leave my compound. Kidnap teams circle my house. And even
in my compound, they mortar, drop bombs on our house. And in parts of
Baghdad itself, the U.S. military has lost control. The terrorists of
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi control entire quarters of suburbs. One of them,
Haifa Street, the most famous, is within mortar range of the U.S.
Embassy itself. And every day, we're creating more recruits for the
insurgents, and every day more young men from outside Iraq, from the
Muslim world agree, the disenfranchised, they're rising up and coming
to join the fight, to blood themselves.
Right now, we are the midwives of the next generation of jihad, of the
next al Qaeda. So the very thing that the administration says it went
there to prevent, it is creating. And despite the honor and the bravery
and the uncommon valor that I see among the American boys there in
uniform who are fighting this grinding war day to day, when I see them
dying in front of me, I can't help but think that perhaps they're dying
in vain, because we're making the nightmare that we're trying to
prevent.
BROWN: It's good to see you. Have a good holiday.
WARE: Thank you very much. It's my pleasure.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
15 Dec 2004 12:25:37 AM |
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Daylight a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
Daylight a écrit:
Kavik Kang wrote:
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
...Jew York Times.
Thanks for that, now everyone knows that
everything you said is a lie.
You moron don't think that everyone is a dumb ***** like you. I
didn't
make up anything. The comments I made are based on the news report
included in the same post. Is it a big deal for anyone to scroll
the
page and verify whether or not I am telling the truth?
.
.
.
Keep watching the morons' channel FoxJews...
Yes we know, so you are an anti-semite.
All you say is still pure lies
demonstrated masterfully point by point
which is why you snipped it off...
You are also a moron. A dumb ***** too. How come you say I am telling
lies if the source that I have commented on is already included in the
original post! Hey, the US has no control on anything in Iraq. This is
the truth. Accepting this fact from me, from somebody else or rejecting
it all together will no change the situation on ground...
Who said they had. It is the Iraqi legitimate government that has. THe
US GAVE them back their sovereignty. They merely HELP crush the little
bugs that are brainwashed like you by lies that the Arab network feed
them and the dictator of neighboring country don't discourage, if not
downright finance because they want to avoid attracting attention on
their own legitimacy. It is a mess created by Arabs and their
sympathizers, against Iraqis and their sympathizers.
Your anti-semite/anti-US ***** doesn't change any of that.
J.
Another source. In case you missed it:
CNN NEWSNIGHT AARON BROWN
Aired November 26, 2004 - 22:00 ET
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/26/asb.01.html
. . .
BROWN: Just one final big-picture question. You've been in and out of
there for two years. You'll be back in there probably sooner than you
want. Do you have a sense that, on the military side, progress is being
made?
WARE: To put it simply, no. No, I don't. I mean, I don't have any sense
of victory or a sense that the coalition, that the West is winning
right now.
I mean, it seems to me we're losing ground, figuratively and literally.
Just from my own example, six -- nine months ago, I could travel the
breadth of Iraq. Sure, it was dangerous, it was risky, but it was
calculated. Then that ceased. And I was restricted to Baghdad itself.
And the only way I could leave Baghdad was if the insurgents took me
and guaranteed my safety.
Now I can't leave my compound. Kidnap teams circle my house. And even
in my compound, they mortar, drop bombs on our house. And in parts of
Baghdad itself, the U.S. military has lost control. The terrorists of
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi control entire quarters of suburbs. One of them,
Haifa Street, the most famous, is within mortar range of the U.S.
Embassy itself. And every day, we're creating more recruits for the
insurgents, and every day more young men from outside Iraq, from the
Muslim world agree, the disenfranchised, they're rising up and coming
to join the fight, to blood themselves.
Right now, we are the midwives of the next generation of jihad, of the
next al Qaeda. So the very thing that the administration says it went
there to prevent, it is creating. And despite the honor and the bravery
and the uncommon valor that I see among the American boys there in
uniform who are fighting this grinding war day to day, when I see them
dying in front of me, I can't help but think that perhaps they're dying
in vain, because we're making the nightmare that we're trying to
prevent.
BROWN: It's good to see you. Have a good holiday.
WARE: Thank you very much. It's my pleasure.
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| User: "Daylight" |
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15 Dec 2004 04:43:28 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Daylight a =E9crit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
Who said they had.
It is the Iraqi legitimate government that has.
THe US GAVE them back their sovereignty.
Oh, the "legitimate" government! From where this puppet government got
its legitimacy?
So what you are suggesting is that the US gave legitimacy to the US
appointed government. And somehow the US gave control to the
insurgents!
You are once again proving that you are a moron.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
21 Dec 2004 03:24:26 PM |
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Daylight a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
Daylight a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
Who said they had.
It is the Iraqi legitimate government that has.
THe US GAVE them back their sovereignty.
Oh, the "legitimate" government! From where this puppet government got
its legitimacy?
From the UN who recognized it as provisional, and sovereign, despite
their anterior betrayal.
So what you are suggesting is that the US gave legitimacy to the US
appointed government.
Well, sure they did contribute to establish the first legitimate
government in Iraqi in decades. YES.
Thank you for admitting it.
And somehow the US gave control to the
insurgents!
Now you are going the deep end. The terrorists have n o control, no
legitimacy, they are only ***** to be buried.
Like you in final analysis.
J.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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13 Dec 2004 09:22:20 PM |
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The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine, none
of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel dogs has
managed to come back with a report on their successes or failures. It's a
one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
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| User: "Wonko The Sane" |
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14 Dec 2004 07:25:03 PM |
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"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
Couldn't we just setup some kind of bug zappers in various neighborhoods?
Its not worth any more American lives to be rid of these termites.
Just put pools of salt water in the middle of all major streets and
watch them with cameras. If you see someone that looks kinda Jihadi,
pump a couple thousand volts into him and film the ensuing episode
of "Jihadi Dance Fever" for yuks.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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14 Dec 2004 09:23:29 PM |
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wonko the sane sez:
"Couldn't we just setup some kind of bug zappers in various neighborhoods?
Its not worth any more American lives to be rid of these termites..."
__________________________________
This is my kind of guy!
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| User: "sanjian" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
13 Dec 2004 09:24:11 PM |
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"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked with
virgins.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
13 Dec 2004 09:28:41 PM |
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"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:x1tvd.1032$up.116@lakeread08...
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked with
virgins.
So which Moslem grapevine are we talking about, BTW?
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
13 Dec 2004 10:04:47 PM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> Spat the Words
"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:x1tvd.1032$up.116@lakeread08...
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked with
virgins.
So which Moslem grapevine are we talking about, BTW?
The kind of grapevine where they talk about how badly they're
beating the US Army. They kill 1 US soldier, we kill 100 of them.
"We're whipping the hell out of the US!" It's the same grapevine
Baghdad Bob was using, talking about US soldiers committing
suicide on the streets of Baghdad, at the same moment our tanks
we're rolling toward his location.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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14 Dec 2004 06:47:11 AM |
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"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95BED66F7FE15rrfkwrantispamattbic@204.127.204.17...
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> Spat the Words
"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:x1tvd.1032$up.116@lakeread08...
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee
infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue
to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked with
virgins.
So which Moslem grapevine are we talking about, BTW?
The kind of grapevine where they talk about how badly they're
beating the US Army. They kill 1 US soldier, we kill 100 of them.
"We're whipping the hell out of the US!" It's the same grapevine
Baghdad Bob was using, talking about US soldiers committing
suicide on the streets of Baghdad, at the same moment our tanks
we're rolling toward his location.
Well, let's see: if there are 150,000 Americans in Iraq, and 15 million Arab
Moslems are willing to die to kill us over there, then yeah, they're
winning.
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14 Dec 2004 07:35:33 PM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> Spat the Words
"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95BED66F7FE15rrfkwrantispamattbic@204.127.204.17...
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> Spat the Words
"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:x1tvd.1032$up.116@lakeread08...
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem
grapevine, none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the
Yankee infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that
continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked with
virgins.
So which Moslem grapevine are we talking about, BTW?
The kind of grapevine where they talk about how badly they're
beating the US Army. They kill 1 US soldier, we kill 100 of them.
"We're whipping the hell out of the US!" It's the same grapevine
Baghdad Bob was using, talking about US soldiers committing
suicide on the streets of Baghdad, at the same moment our tanks
we're rolling toward his location.
Well, let's see: if there are 150,000 Americans in Iraq, and 15 million
Arab Moslems are willing to die to kill us over there, then yeah,
they're winning.
Who said we're winning? Yeah, we can kill a lot more of them than
vice versa, and we've even got the arabs killing each other to large
extent (which is working against the US plans). Seems like both
neocons and muslim militants are now in denial about what's really
happening. War is nuts. The only outcome I see here is an escalation.
More people, more countries being drawn in. This is why we bombed
the Serbs 4 years ago, to prevent the war from spilling over to
other countries. The Euros and others are wise to keep a very
safe distance from this conflict.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 07:48:17 PM |
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Who's a neocon? Is this the most lefty in the Congress (D) Hillary
Clinton who is for the war or (D) Kerry whom wants to up troop strength
by 100,000? Can you define this please? As far as I see the US
government is all neocons then, or a majority thereof. ;) If not they
should be yelling at the top of their lungs every day in the press to
stop this thing - but they aren't!
War is nuts
Would that be candy flavored Pecans? Ummm... Christmas Pecan Pie
Yuummm. ;)
The Euros and others are wise to keep a very safe distance from this
conflict.
donno I 've seen foiled terror plots all over the EU countries this
last year (even ones who are against this war) . Some news still
archived at my site. and
How bout that Turkey ;) lol.
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 08:20:24 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> Spat the Words
Who's a neocon? Is this the most lefty in the Congress (D) Hillary
Clinton who is for the war or (D) Kerry whom wants to up troop strength
by 100,000? Can you define this please? As far as I see the US
government is all neocons then, or a majority thereof. ;) If not they
should be yelling at the top of their lungs every day in the press to
stop this thing - but they aren't!
War is nuts
Would that be candy flavored Pecans? Ummm... Christmas Pecan Pie
Yuummm. ;)
The Euros and others are wise to keep a very safe distance from this
conflict.
donno I 've seen foiled terror plots all over the EU countries this
last year (even ones who are against this war) .
And the Euros havenn't mobilized their entire military to
launch unprovoked attack on other countries. The Euros know
where terrorists stand in large scheme. Bush doesn't understand
that as he's put UBL on a high pedestal and made the guy a
freakin folk hero among muslims. That's real bright thinking
on part of GWBush. He's a credit to his country.
Some news still
archived at my site. and
How bout that Turkey ;) lol.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 08:35:08 PM |
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excuse me? What Military? lol.
Euros know where terrorists stand in large scheme.
Where is that?
Bush doesn't understand
that as he's put UBL on a high pedestal and made the guy a
freakin folk hero among muslims. That's real bright thinking
As far as I know UbL took credit for 9/11 - you have different facts?
Maybe we can relay these to Bush so he can correct his statements?
That's real bright thinking
Who Usama?
He's a credit to his country.
Got that right. Man if Kerry was in we have 100,000 more troops there-
who knows, maybe he would have detonated the Mr. Nuke by now :0
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
15 Dec 2004 03:33:12 AM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1103078108.727347.305420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
excuse me? What Military? lol.
Euros know where terrorists stand in large scheme.
Where is that?
Bush doesn't understand
that as he's put UBL on a high pedestal and made the guy a
freakin folk hero among muslims. That's real bright thinking
As far as I know UbL took credit for 9/11 - you have different facts?
Only AFTER he was accused of it by Bush, apparently. Interestingly he didn't
even call his organisation "Al Qaueda" until AFTER it was dubbed that in the
trial for the first WTC attack.You're being played for a suckers.
Maybe we can relay these to Bush so he can correct his statements?
It's not as if he corrected his statements after no WMD were found, so why
would he be different now?
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| User: "Daylight" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
15 Dec 2004 04:26:45 PM |
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LawsonE wrote:
Well, let's see: if there are 150,000 Americans in Iraq, and 15
million Arab
Do you mean that there are now 15 million Arabs fighting 150 thousand
US troops in Iraq?
According to the pentagon official statements, the insurgents in Iraq
are no more 10 thousand! Is that true?
In Fallujah, according to the pentagon, the insurgents are only 2000.
US brought nearly 20 thousand marines to capture a city that is no more
than 4x4km. Iraqi insurgents with home made bombs, knives and sticks
have been fighting the superpower for over a month now. Don't you know
that?
So where in you equation fit the 15 million Arabs.
Oh, forgot, you counted everybody in Iraq, including women, children,
US supporters, etc.
Moslems are willing to die to kill us over there,
then yeah, they're winning.
They are willing to die not to kill you but to defend their country.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 07:34:25 PM |
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LawsonE wrote:
"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95BED66F7FE15rrfkwrantispamattbic@204.127.204.17...
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> Spat the Words
"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:x1tvd.1032$up.116@lakeread08...
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem
grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee
infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes
or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those
jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that
continue
to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked
with
virgins.
So which Moslem grapevine are we talking about, BTW?
The kind of grapevine where they talk about how badly they're
beating the US Army. They kill 1 US soldier, we kill 100 of them.
"We're whipping the hell out of the US!" It's the same grapevine
Baghdad Bob was using, talking about US soldiers committing
suicide on the streets of Baghdad, at the same moment our tanks
we're rolling toward his location.
Well, let's see: if there are 150,000 Americans in Iraq, and 15
million Arab
Moslems are willing to die to kill us over there, then yeah, they're
winning.
The ultimate tool in history to change the geopolitical boundaries is
called 'desperation.' Who wants it more - us or them? At the moment its
them - If Patton was alive and a General in Iraq or the ME with cart
blanche from the US - America would be wining hands down. ;)
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 07:34:56 PM |
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The ultimate tool in history to change the geopolitical boundaries is
called 'desperation.' Who wants it more - us or them? At the moment its
them - If Patton was alive and a General in Iraq or the ME with cart
blanche from the US - America would be wining hands down. ;)
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 04:21:55 AM |
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R. Foreman" >eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net
wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> Spat the Words
"sanjian" <sanjian@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:x1tvd.1032$up.116@lakeread08...
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:M%svd.4116$N%6.3439@trnddc05...
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine,
none of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel
dogs has managed to come back with a report on their successes or
failures. It's a one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
I wonder if anyone called ahead and made sure Heaven was stocked with
virgins.
So which Moslem grapevine are we >>talking about, BTW?
The kind of grapevine where they talk about how badly they're
beating the US Army. They kill 1 US soldier, we kill 100 of them.
"We're whipping the hell out of the US!" It's the same grapevine
Baghdad Bob was using, talking about US soldiers committing
suicide on the streets of Baghdad, at the same moment our tanks
we're rolling toward his location.
Well most of your friends in this group agree with terrorists ""We're whipping
the hell out of the US!"
You can see it in their posts almost every day.
Tony
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| User: "Daylight" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
14 Dec 2004 09:06:53 AM |
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R. Foreman wrote:
The kind of grapevine where they talk about
how badly they're beating the US Army.
They kill 1 US soldier, we kill 100 of them.
I thought you have something to say other than repeating the Pentagon
rubbish. If the ratio you mentiond is correct, there will not be a
single insurgent in Iraq today. The the opposite is most likely true.
Baghdad: Iraqi insurgents attack US supply convoy
http://www.iha.com.tr/bin/directory.dll/pf?content=http%3A//www.iha.com.tr/bin/directory.dll/pub/news/getdoc%3Fsec%3D3%26nid%3D23051
13 April 2004
A nine-truck convoy supplying the US military in Iraq was attacked on
Monday in the town of Garma, near the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, by a
group of insurgents who called themselves the "Al-Rahman Army".
As the drivers of the trucks are missing, it is believed they have been
kidnapped or killed.
Some masked insurgents made several statements at the scene shortly
after the attack. Insurgents said that everybody helping the US forces
will face such an end, a clear threat to truck drivers.
comments: US miserably failed to provide the least protection for the
convey. For the simple reason, it cannot.
.. . .
Dangers on the Ground in Iraq Lead to Increased Use of Airlifts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58252-2004Dec11.html
By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 12, 2004; Page A28
<quote>
The stepped-up effort started several weeks ago at the urging of Gen.
John Jumper, the Air Force chief of staff, and involves cargo planes
carrying vehicles, tank tracks, tires, generators and other goods that
normally move over land routes. Such transport is more expensive and
less efficient, but senior Air Force officers say the unusual
undertaking has become necessary to protect the lives of U.S. troops
and civilians who otherwise would attempt to ferry the items by
dangerous ground convoys.
</quote>
.. . .
Despite all of that, everything is under control. And only "half" a
soldier was killed last week! Insurgents must be using training
ammunition. Surprise: this ammunition destroys convoys of armor
vehicles and melt tanks, but somehow fails to wound US soldiers! Unless
they are hiding in their bases like rabbits, they must be falling like
flies.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
15 Dec 2004 12:19:35 AM |
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Docky Wocky a écrit:
The best news from Fallujah is that according to the moslem grapevine, none
of the "insurgents" being sent there to shoot up the Yankee infidel dogs has
managed to come back with a report on their successes or failures. It's a
one way street to moslem paradise for those jokers.
So Al Zarqawi sends in another bunch of gullible morons that continue to
feed the nitrogen cycle in Iraq.
Yeah, at least they won't be total waste, they will thus start early to
eventually be fossil fuel for future generations, compensating for the
one they burnt and indeed meanwhile could serve to fertilize the desert.
I guess that short of their total unworthiness for any virgin given that
they kill innocents, this utter fate is ultimately the great views Allah
had for their sorry *****.
J.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
07 Dec 2004 02:03:40 PM |
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In article <1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
daylight80231@yahoo.com says...
Remember, Iraqi resistance is no joke. Last April they defeated the
almighty US army and put the US nose in the dust. Fallujah battle isn't
over yet. So keep yourself ready to accept another defeat. Don't
beleive everything you read in Jew York Times.
Well, you just totally trashed your credibility with that snide and
anti-semitic comment.
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| User: "Grantland" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
07 Dec 2004 04:16:45 PM |
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Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
In article <1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
daylight80231@yahoo.com says...
Remember, Iraqi resistance is no joke. Last April they defeated the
almighty US army and put the US nose in the dust. Fallujah battle isn't
over yet. So keep yourself ready to accept another defeat. Don't
beleive everything you read in Jew York Times.
Well, you just totally trashed your credibility with that snide and
anti-semitic comment.
Stupid fatpig lemming. Have another triple-cheeseburger Amerifilth.
w~
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: "Good" News from Iraq (by Robert Hill) |
07 Dec 2004 11:13:40 PM |
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good news for xmas? happy holidays?
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1102448447.143655.303720@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
The Australian Defense minister Robert Hill explains to you the
situation in Baghdad as he has seen it just last Friday.
Baghdad Green Zone has been turned to Red Zone by the Iraqi Resistance.
The insurgency is really quite intensive and extensive, Robert Hill
says
US forces are either moving on streets and getting ambushed or setting
in their bases and receiving hits. This perhaps what the Pentagon meant
when said it is one sided battle!
This is a good statement:
"I would have (travelled into central Baghdad) if we'd had a
helicopter, but they were being used for more important tasks."
He says: " if we'd had a helicopter"
Now are we to believe that the US forces do not have one single standby
helicopter reserved for high officials such as the Australian Defense
minister.
The fact is that Robert Hill is indirectly confirming the Resistance
claim that they were able to force US helicopters to ground. But even
if he is telling the truth that there is no single helicopter
available, it is still very good news. All it means that the entire
Triangle of Death is burning and the US was forced to use every single
helicopter it has in Iraq. very good.
Remember, Iraqi resistance is no joke. Last April they defeated the
almighty US army and put the US nose in the dust. Fallujah battle isn't
over yet. So keep yourself ready to accept another defeat. Don't
beleive everything you read in Jew York Times.
Baghdad worse than ever, says Hill
By Patrick Walters
December 6, 2004
ROBERT Hill has learnt first-hand the new perils involved in visiting
strife-torn Baghdad.
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11597627%255E401,00.html
Such has been the escalation of violence in the run-up to the January
30 elections that for the first time in four visits, the Defence
Minister could not make it to the centre of the Iraqi capital last
Friday.
So dangerous has the main highway to and from the airport become, with
daily suicide bomb attacks, he did not visit the Australian embassy or
the Green Zone that comprises the headquarters of the US-led coalition
forces in Iraq.
"This is the first time I've been unable to do that. It's very
dangerous - a number of countries are no longer travelling along it,"
Senator Hill told The Australian yesterday.
"I would have (travelled into central Baghdad) if we'd had a
helicopter, but they were being used for more important tasks."
Senator Hill's visit coincided with a surge of violence in Iraq that
killed more than 60 people over the weekend and led senior UN official
Lakhdar Brahimi to warn that holding elections would be "impossible" in
the current security environment.
Senator Hill acknowledged Iraq's central area, including Baghdad, was
going through a "very difficult phase".
"I would say it's more violent than on any of my previous visits," he
said.
"It's a more dangerous place than it's been since the downfall of
Saddam's regime. The insurgency is really quite intensive and
extensive."
Instead of making the hazardous run into the city, Senator Hill
travelled in an armoured convoy to the US-run Camp Victory, a short
distance from Baghdad airport.
In a day-long visit, he discussed security in Iraq and
counter-insurgency operations with General George Casey, the overall
commander of the US-led multinational forces in Iraq, and the deputy
chief of staff for strategic operations, Major General Jim Molan.
The two officers canvassed possible future roles for Australia's
military in training Iraq's security forces in the areas of logistics
support and senior officer training. A 50-strong Australian army
advisory team will complete its training of three Iraqi battalions
early in the new year.
Accompanied by Australia's special forces commander, Major General Mike
Hindmarsh, Senator Hill also met Australian ambassador Howard Brown and
Air Commodore Greg Evans, the new commander of Australian forces in the
Middle East.
Senator Hill said General Casey had told him the taking of Fallujah was
a critical step in overcoming the largely Sunni-backed insurgency.
But with insurgents lacking a centralised command structure, military
operations would continue with a key goal being to support the
counter-insurgency capabilities of the Iraqis themselves.
"There is a view among the Sunnis and those who were part of Saddam's
regime that not only have they lost, but they will continue to lose
through the building of a new democratic system," Senator Hill said.
"They are are fighting back, and they see the January 30 national
elections as a critical event."
He said one of the biggest changes of recent months was the extent of
intimidation against those who supported Iraq's democratisation
process, and against their families.
But there was determination the elections would go ahead, with the key
issue still the participation of the major Sunni political parties.
"There's no doubt the majority of Iraqis want the elections, but
there's still going to be major challenges in relations to the Sunni
triangle," he said. "There is a greater risk in the insurgents being
seen to be winning a deferral. You run the risk of further undermining
the confidence of the majority of Iraqis."
At a weekend conference in Bahrain, Senator Hill met US President
George W. Bush's new national security adviser Stephen Hadley and his
Iraqi counterpart Qassim Daud.
The Australian
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Gunfight breaks out in Baghdad [near Green Zone]
By Paul Garwood in Baghdad, Iraq
07dec04
A HEAVY gunfight broke out on a dangerous street in central Baghdad
within blocks of the country's most fortified facilities, including the
US Embassy and interim Iraqi government headquarters.
Six more American troops were killed in the volatile Anbar province.
more...
http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11620644%255E1
702,00.html
They are still waiting for the "flowers"
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/7022/83-1101605557.jpg
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/5844/1101605556.jpg
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