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WASHINGTON, April 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Judiciary Committee =
Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.) released the following =
statement:
"Yesterday, a 1995 memo written by 9/11 Commission Member Jamie =
Gorelick, in her former role as the second in command at the Justice =
Department, revealed her actions in establishing the heightened 'wall' =
prohibiting the sharing of intelligence information and criminal =
information. Scrutiny of this policy lies at the heart of the =
Commission's work. Ms. Gorelick has an inherent conflict of interest as =
the author of this memo and as a government official at the center of =
the events in questions. Thus, I believe the Commission's work and =
independence will be fatally damaged by the continued participation of =
Ms. Gorelick as a Commissioner. Reluctantly, I have come to the =
conclusion that Ms. Gorelick should resign from this Commission.=20
"The Commission's Guidelines on Recusals state, 'Commissioners and staff =
will recuse themselves from investigating work they performed in prior =
government service.' Commissioner Gorelick's memo directing a policy =
that 'go(es) beyond what is legally required' indicates that her =
judgment and actions as the Deputy Attorney General in the Reno Justice =
Department are very much in question before the Commission. Indeed =
Attorney General Ashcroft called this DOJ policy, 'the single greatest =
structural cause for September 11 ... (and) embraced flawed legal =
reasoning.' Commissioner Gorelick is in the unfair position of trying to =
address the key issue before the Commission when her own actions are =
central to the events at issue. The public cannot help but ask =
legitimate questions about her motives.=20
"While it is regrettable that this conflict had not come to light =
sooner, this Commission's work and forthcoming recommendations are too =
important to be questioned in this way, and may be devalued by Ms. =
Gorelick's continued participation as a Commissioner. Given Ms. =
Gorelick's work as the Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno, Ms. =
Gorelick can be quite valuable to the Commission's work preparing 'a =
full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September =
11, 2001 terrorist attacks.' However, that contribution should come as a =
witness before the Commission - not as a member.=20
"Key figures like former FBI Director Freeh, Director Mueller, Attorney =
General Ashcroft, former presidential adviser Richard Clarke, and =
National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice have all testified before the =
Commission and would have rightly sparked indignation about a conflict =
of interest had these individuals also been members of the Commission. =
Testifying before the Commission is Ms. Gorelick's proper role, not =
sitting as a member of this independent commission."
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In article <150cc$407d9d17$407628a3$5946@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>, "Axis2" <Likentoapple@hotmail.com> wrote:
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WASHINGTON, April 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Judiciary Committee =
Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.) released the following =
statement:
"Yesterday, a 1995 memo written by 9/11 Commission Member Jamie =
Gorelick, in her former role as the second in command at the Justice =
Department, revealed her actions in establishing the heightened 'wall' =
prohibiting the sharing of intelligence information and criminal =
information.
No warrants are used in intelligence gathering, and criminal prosecution
requires them. Thus, in order to have higher quality prosecutions (ie - ones
that are likely to succeed), one would need to have a clean case - everything in
order.
Unless you want to live in a police state, one should think this is a good
policy. (Clearly, Intelligence arm should be able to gain access to criminal
info, but definitely not the other way around).
Woods
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <150cc$407d9d17$407628a3$5946@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>, "Axis2"
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WASHINGTON, April 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Judiciary Committee =
Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.) released the following =
statement:
"Yesterday, a 1995 memo written by 9/11 Commission Member Jamie =
Gorelick, in her former role as the second in command at the Justice =
Department, revealed her actions in establishing the heightened 'wall' =
prohibiting the sharing of intelligence information and criminal =
information.
No warrants are used in intelligence gathering, and criminal prosecution
requires them. Thus, in order to have higher quality prosecutions (ie - ones
that are likely to succeed), one would need to have a clean case - everything in
order.
Unless you want to live in a police state, one should think this is a good
policy. (Clearly, Intelligence arm should be able to gain access to criminal
info, but definitely not the other way around).
Woods
Gorelick was the architect of this policy. The policy went far in excess of what USA law requires.
Why? Or more importantly what effect did it have on agents?
FBI officials reported fear of sharing information on any level because of Jamie's policy. Both
Mueller and Tenent testified as such. It was Ashcroft who blew the whistle by having Jamie's ultra
liberal memo declassified on Monday. This all goes back to the Clinton policy of making terrorism a
law enforcement matter vs an intelligence/military matter.
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In article <e337$407dbf12$407626cd$7101@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>, "Axis2" <Likentoapple@hotmail.com> wrote:
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WASHINGTON, April 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Judiciary Committee =
Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.) released the following =
statement:
"Yesterday, a 1995 memo written by 9/11 Commission Member Jamie =
Gorelick, in her former role as the second in command at the Justice =
Department, revealed her actions in establishing the heightened 'wall' =
prohibiting the sharing of intelligence information and criminal =
information.
No warrants are used in intelligence gathering, and criminal prosecution
requires them. Thus, in order to have higher quality prosecutions (ie - ones
that are likely to succeed), one would need to have a clean case - everything
in
order.
Unless you want to live in a police state, one should think this is a good
policy. (Clearly, Intelligence arm should be able to gain access to criminal
info, but definitely not the other way around).
Woods
Gorelick was the architect of this policy. The policy went far in excess of
what USA law requires.
Why? Or more importantly what effect did it have on agents?
FBI officials reported fear of sharing information on any level because of
Jamie's policy. Both
Mueller and Tenent testified as such. It was Ashcroft who blew the whistle by
having Jamie's ultra
liberal memo declassified on Monday. This all goes back to the Clinton policy
of making terrorism a
law enforcement matter vs an intelligence/military matter.
Any prosecution is a law enforcement matter unless/until the law was changed.
AFAIK, there was no mechanism for charging terrorists in the US in a military
court during Clinton's tenure. Indeed, that's still being decided in the courts
under Bush.
Woods
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15 Apr 2004 11:10:21 AM |
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Typical Liberal actions, they want to limit law enforcement, yet they want to
blame law enforcement when there is a problem.
Liberals as you can see are very confused people.
Tony
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15 Apr 2004 04:35:28 PM |
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In article <20040415121021.17367.00000496@mb-m16.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Typical Liberal actions, they want to limit law enforcement, yet they want to
blame law enforcement when there is a problem.
You seem confused. Who was complaining about FBI law enforcement in this
thread?
Woods
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