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In Expressen today, there's an article about young women from

cultures getting killed by their fathers for loving the wrong man.

How has that cause the "ghettoisation" , violence or lack of jobs you

were

complaining about in Malmö?

That is a good example of what I'm talking about:

No it isn't - either that or you are confused as to exactly what you

talking about. See above.

Some people don't want to
participate in our society; but they sure would like to set the

Maybe they would, but how are they doing so far? Can you point me

any

groups lobbying for "honour" killings to be made legal? Did you read

the

news today? There's a conference being held in Sweden to condemn

"honour"

killings. I can't imagine, for even one second, that anyone is going

suggest it should be permitted in the interests of cultural

Oh... The ghettos are sub-societies outside the real society. That's the
point.
Of course nobody (I think) really wants to kill his own daughter, but

in the culture. It was just an example.

tw should know all about it. I have posted numerous articles on the
subject. However, he continues to minimize it. (I just read another book
by a young Jordanian woman in exile about the death of her best friend at
the hands of the friend's father. All because she snuck out to (chastely)
date a Christian boy. The friend is in exile because she fears for her

life for arranging the meetings. the royalties from the book go to a
charity working to erradicate honour killings). You will have a hard time
convincing tw, though!

Jane

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(article in swedish)

But you could still fill us in on the gist of it! tw

ignore this

post

(he sometimes does that when proven wrong) :)!

I think he'll respond when he gets back from his usual

weekend

break.

I looked up a few words from the headline, and it seems to

say

something about an extreme increase in law activity

something

or

other

You're right, he did respond. Oh, well, I can't ALWAYS be

right

;-)!

..or even *ever* ? ;-)

I wish I'd replied in this thread, but when I fired up outlook

this

morning

I didn't spot it and assumed it was part of teh standard

loss/latency

our

news server is afflicted with. (I apologise to Steven in

if

he

botehed replying to the last post in "missionaries and

murderers" -

it

hasn't turned up in google yet if you have, Steve.

I didn't reply. I agreed with about 75% of what you wrote, and I

liked

the way you ended each paragraph ... so I decided at that point

there

was no reason to argue a few details. It is my opinion the

role

in Hitler's heirarchy has been underreported by history. My

about

the Mufti do not prove anything, one way or the other. They

provide evidence. For example, the BBC story demonstrates his

level of operational command). One of the other links told of

Jewish children that Hitler was ready to trade for some German

POW's

... until the Mufti convinced the SS to forego the deal, and the

5000

children were sent to death camps. The Mufti was concerned the

5000

children would eventually be sent to the Palestine Mandate, and

that

was the last thing he wanted to see happen. A German officer

later

he thought the Mufti would have liked to see all Jews dead.

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html

http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/apr04/hed6371.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/middle_east/1423589.stm

The article, by the way, was about joblessness increasing

the

1990ish

(while not mentioing that was also when teh Swedish economy

tanked),

and

also contained a fascinating expsoe on how you are more likely

to

be

the

victim of a violent crime in an urban area than in a rural

News

to us

all. I'm sure. Howvere, even though the opinion piece was

written

by

a

member of Folkpartiet (who have some decidedly Tony-esque

on

race)

they made no attempt to blame this phenomena on Muslims.

Ironic that Folkpartiet is the self-proclaimed "Liberal" party

Sweden, which makes me think it would not be Tony's party of

choice.

Well.. they're more "libertarian" than liberal, but I actually got

the

confised withe the "Moderate" party (which is anything but).
Nonetheless, the article Hans posted was a) an opinion piece

than

hard news and b) made no mention whatsoever of Islam being the

(or

even

a!) factor in the economic ghettoisation of inner city areas.

"Hans D. Magnusson" <hd@home.se> wrote in message
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"Hans D. Magnusson" <hd@home.se> wrote in message
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In Expressen today, there's an article about young women from certain
cultures getting killed by their fathers for loving the wrong man.

How has that cause the "ghettoisation" , violence or lack of jobs you

were

complaining about in Malmö?

That is a good example of what I'm talking about:

No it isn't - either that or you are confused as to exactly what you ARE
talking about. See above.

Some people don't want to
participate in our society; but they sure would like to set the rules.

Maybe they would, but how are they doing so far? Can you point me toward

any

groups lobbying for "honour" killings to be made legal? Did you read

the

news today? There's a conference being held in Sweden to condemn

"honour"

killings. I can't imagine, for even one second, that anyone is going to
suggest it should be permitted in the interests of cultural diversity..

Oh... The ghettos are sub-societies outside the real society. That's the
point.
Of course nobody (I think) really wants to kill his own daughter, but it's
in the culture. It was just an example.

tw should know all about it. I have posted numerous articles on the
subject. However, he continues to minimize it. (I just read another book
by a young Jordanian woman in exile about the death of her best friend at
the hands of the friend's father. All because she snuck out to (chastely)
date a Christian boy. The friend is in exile because she fears for her own
life for arranging the meetings. the royalties from the book go to a
charity working to erradicate honour killings). You will have a hard time
convincing tw, though!

Jane

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http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=572&a=351097&previousRenderType=6

(article in swedish)

But you could still fill us in on the gist of it! tw may

ignore this

post

(he sometimes does that when proven wrong) :)!

I think he'll respond when he gets back from his usual

weekend

break.

I looked up a few words from the headline, and it seems to

say

something about an extreme increase in law activity

something

or

other

You're right, he did respond. Oh, well, I can't ALWAYS be

right

;-)!

..or even *ever* ? ;-)

I wish I'd replied in this thread, but when I fired up outlook

this

morning

I didn't spot it and assumed it was part of teh standard

loss/latency

our

news server is afflicted with. (I apologise to Steven in advance

if

he

botehed replying to the last post in "missionaries and

murderers" -

it

hasn't turned up in google yet if you have, Steve.

I didn't reply. I agreed with about 75% of what you wrote, and I

liked

the way you ended each paragraph ... so I decided at that point

there

was no reason to argue a few details. It is my opinion the Mufti's

role

in Hitler's heirarchy has been underreported by history. My links

about

the Mufti do not prove anything, one way or the other. They simply
provide evidence. For example, the BBC story demonstrates his high
level of operational command). One of the other links told of 5000
Jewish children that Hitler was ready to trade for some German

POW's

... until the Mufti convinced the SS to forego the deal, and the

5000

children were sent to death camps. The Mufti was concerned the

5000

children would eventually be sent to the Palestine Mandate, and

that

was the last thing he wanted to see happen. A German officer said

later

he thought the Mufti would have liked to see all Jews dead.

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html

http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/apr04/hed6371.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/middle_east/1423589.stm

The article, by the way, was about joblessness increasing since

the

1990ish

(while not mentioing that was also when teh Swedish economy

tanked),

and

also contained a fascinating expsoe on how you are more likely

to

be

the

victim of a violent crime in an urban area than in a rural one!

News

to us

all. I'm sure. Howvere, even though the opinion piece was

written

by

a

member of Folkpartiet (who have some decidedly Tony-esque views

on

race)

they made no attempt to blame this phenomena on Muslims.

Ironic that Folkpartiet is the self-proclaimed "Liberal" party of
Sweden, which makes me think it would not be Tony's party of

choice.

Well.. they're more "libertarian" than liberal, but I actually got

the

confised withe the "Moderate" party (which is anything but).
Nonetheless, the article Hans posted was a) an opinion piece rather

than

hard news and b) made no mention whatsoever of Islam being the main

(or

even

a!) factor in the economic ghettoisation of inner city areas.