'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth – homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of – free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
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14 Apr 2005 10:46:23 PM |
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news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
Jane
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15 Apr 2005 07:02:30 PM |
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Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
I think we can solve all dress-code issues in schools by bringing back
uniforms. T-shirts with slogans are great though. Whenever I want to
make a couple of new friends, I put on my "Bush is a Moron" T-shirt ;-)
Stat.
Jane
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16 Apr 2005 11:26:05 AM |
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MonsieurStat wrote / skrev:
Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best way to handle it.
I think we can solve all dress-code issues in schools by bringing back
uniforms. T-shirts with slogans are great though. Whenever I want to
make a couple of new friends, I put on my "Bush is a Moron" T-shirt ;-)
Stat.
Worth a try. One problem though... There aren't many readers of APN.
It's no use for me to get me a "Stat was wrong" T-shirt.
Jane
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| User: "tw" |
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18 Apr 2005 04:25:33 AM |
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"Hans D. Magnusson" <hd@home.se> wrote in message
news:x0b8e.134696$dP1.473111@newsc.telia.net...
MonsieurStat wrote / skrev:
Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best way to handle it.
I think we can solve all dress-code issues in schools by bringing back
uniforms. T-shirts with slogans are great though. Whenever I want to
make a couple of new friends, I put on my "Bush is a Moron" T-shirt ;-)
Stat.
Worth a try. One problem though... There aren't many readers of APN.
It's no use for me to get me a "Stat was wrong" T-shirt.
Ah.. if only we were famous wordwide! think of the possibilities:
"Tony went to Aruba and all I got was this lousy flak-vest"
or for me:
"Yesterday I coludn't even splel engineer. Today, I IS one"
You could have a black T-Shirt with a Joy Division feel with "No Love Lost"
on the front and "...for Mulsims that is" on the back.
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18 Apr 2005 02:25:17 PM |
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tw wrote / skrev:
"Hans D. Magnusson" <hd@home.se> wrote in message
news:x0b8e.134696$dP1.473111@newsc.telia.net...
MonsieurStat wrote / skrev:
Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best way to handle it.
I think we can solve all dress-code issues in schools by bringing back
uniforms. T-shirts with slogans are great though. Whenever I want to
make a couple of new friends, I put on my "Bush is a Moron" T-shirt ;-)
Stat.
Worth a try. One problem though... There aren't many readers of APN.
It's no use for me to get me a "Stat was wrong" T-shirt.
Ah.. if only we were famous wordwide! think of the possibilities:
"Tony went to Aruba and all I got was this lousy flak-vest"
or for me:
"Yesterday I coludn't even splel engineer. Today, I IS one"
You could have a black T-Shirt with a Joy Division feel with "No Love Lost"
on the front and "...for Mulsims that is" on the back.
Hm... I'm more of a Bunnyman. "Heads will roll" or "Gods will be Gods".
But "Mulsims"... One of those days again?
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15 Apr 2005 05:22:08 PM |
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Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
Jane
Absolutely!
Otherwise we are in danger of allowing the *fashion culture* to decide
what is right, over what is wrong!
The Master
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15 Apr 2005 04:47:43 PM |
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Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students, everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Jane
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16 Apr 2005 06:50:15 AM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:3EW7e.2905$XF3.39@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students, everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school he will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a teenager, but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Jane
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16 Apr 2005 09:27:31 AM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing
in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is
wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their
child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with
teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students, everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school he
will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a teenager,
but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Well, hell, yes, if dressing everyone in the same clothes will result in
less violence, then why not promote it for ALL Americans?
Imagine the daily fretting -- "I don't know what the ***** to wear
today?" -- will be gone! Just a closet and a chest of drawers full of only
two solid colors? No more difficult attire decisions every day!
And since some university studies show IQ, mental concentration and memory
retention improve, why not pass along this wonderful 'cure' to the entire
population?
I support a constitutional amendment.
Doc :])
Jane
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16 Apr 2005 03:04:19 PM |
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Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing
in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is
wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their
child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with
teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students, everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school he
will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a teenager,
but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Well, hell, yes, if dressing everyone in the same clothes will result in
less violence, then why not promote it for ALL Americans?
Imagine the daily fretting -- "I don't know what the ***** to wear
today?" -- will be gone! Just a closet and a chest of drawers full of only
two solid colors? No more difficult attire decisions every day!
And since some university studies show IQ, mental concentration and memory
retention improve, why not pass along this wonderful 'cure' to the entire
population?
I support a constitutional amendment.
Doc :])
It HAS been shown that kids in uniform are better behaved. Aside from that,
it takes away the expensive "brand-name" fetish that most kids have, at
least for school. Believe it or not, they CAN change when they get home!
Jane
Jane
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18 Apr 2005 04:20:49 AM |
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'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told
to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing
in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is
wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their
child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a
letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told
officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with
teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students,
everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school he
will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a
teenager,
but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Well, hell, yes, if dressing everyone in the same clothes will result in
less violence, then why not promote it for ALL Americans?
Imagine the daily fretting -- "I don't know what the ***** to wear
today?" -- will be gone! Just a closet and a chest of drawers full of
only
two solid colors? No more difficult attire decisions every day!
And since some university studies show IQ, mental concentration and
memory
retention improve, why not pass along this wonderful 'cure' to the
entire
population?
I support a constitutional amendment.
Doc :])
It HAS been shown that kids in uniform are better behaved. Aside from
that,
it takes away the expensive "brand-name" fetish that most kids have, at
least for school.
Well, speaking as someine who went to two schools that required uniform I'll
say you're a bit off there. What actaully happens is that kids bend/break
the rules as far as they can (Lacoste socks and jumpers were the thing in my
day!) to incorporate their label fetishes into the "uniform". Also, it costs
a fair bit to kit kids out with a new uniform every year, so if your parents
aren't as well off as others, you get to wear your brother's old uniform
(and my brother was a lot bigger than me!) or get it second/third hand from
well meaning, though vaguely patronising (and often humiliating to a
teenager) "help" organisations within the school. Naturally, the designer
clothing snobs can spot a second hand blazer like a shark can detect a drop
of blood in an olympic swimming pool..
Believe it or not, they CAN change when they get home!
Jane
Jane
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'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for
wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told
to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing
in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is
wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their
child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said
Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a
letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt
that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told
officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her
values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is
the
best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with
teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students,
everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school
he
will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a
teenager,
but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Well, hell, yes, if dressing everyone in the same clothes will result
in
less violence, then why not promote it for ALL Americans?
Imagine the daily fretting -- "I don't know what the ***** to wear
today?" -- will be gone! Just a closet and a chest of drawers full of
only
two solid colors? No more difficult attire decisions every day!
And since some university studies show IQ, mental concentration and
memory
retention improve, why not pass along this wonderful 'cure' to the
entire
population?
I support a constitutional amendment.
Doc :])
It HAS been shown that kids in uniform are better behaved. Aside from
that,
it takes away the expensive "brand-name" fetish that most kids have, at
least for school.
Well, speaking as someine who went to two schools that required uniform
I'll
say you're a bit off there. What actaully happens is that kids bend/break
the rules as far as they can (Lacoste socks and jumpers were the thing in
my
day!) to incorporate their label fetishes into the "uniform". Also, it
costs
a fair bit to kit kids out with a new uniform every year, so if your
parents
aren't as well off as others, you get to wear your brother's old uniform
(and my brother was a lot bigger than me!) or get it second/third hand
from
well meaning, though vaguely patronising (and often humiliating to a
teenager) "help" organisations within the school. Naturally, the designer
clothing snobs can spot a second hand blazer like a shark can detect a
drop
of blood in an olympic swimming pool..
There is an exchange of used uniforms among the parents in the school.
Since it is not a private school (ie does not require tuition...Catholic
schools are funded in Ontario) there are not a lot of rich kids. There is
little stigma about 2nd-hand here anymore! Sure, no one would be caught
dead at the Sally Ann, but there are plenty of "high-end" consignment
stores. When my son was a baby, I got all his oshkosh 2nd hand...why pay
$40 new when you can get like-new for $15? All the Moms I know have shopped
2nd-hand, even though most can afford new.
Jane
Believe it or not, they CAN change when they get home!
Jane
Jane
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'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for
wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told
to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing
in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is
wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their
child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said
Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a
letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt
that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told
officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her
values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is
the
best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with
teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students,
everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school
he
will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a
teenager,
but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Well, hell, yes, if dressing everyone in the same clothes will result
in
less violence, then why not promote it for ALL Americans?
Imagine the daily fretting -- "I don't know what the ***** to wear
today?" -- will be gone! Just a closet and a chest of drawers full of
only
two solid colors? No more difficult attire decisions every day!
And since some university studies show IQ, mental concentration and
memory
retention improve, why not pass along this wonderful 'cure' to the
entire
population?
I support a constitutional amendment.
Doc :])
It HAS been shown that kids in uniform are better behaved. Aside from
that,
it takes away the expensive "brand-name" fetish that most kids have, at
least for school.
Well, speaking as someine who went to two schools that required uniform
I'll
say you're a bit off there. What actaully happens is that kids bend/break
the rules as far as they can (Lacoste socks and jumpers were the thing in
my
day!) to incorporate their label fetishes into the "uniform". Also, it
costs
a fair bit to kit kids out with a new uniform every year, so if your
parents
aren't as well off as others, you get to wear your brother's old uniform
(and my brother was a lot bigger than me!) or get it second/third hand
from
well meaning, though vaguely patronising (and often humiliating to a
teenager) "help" organisations within the school. Naturally, the designer
clothing snobs can spot a second hand blazer like a shark can detect a
drop
of blood in an olympic swimming pool..
There is an exchange of used uniforms among the parents in the school.
Since it is not a private school (ie does not require tuition...Catholic
schools are funded in Ontario) there are not a lot of rich kids. There is
little stigma about 2nd-hand here anymore! Sure, no one would be caught
dead at the Sally Ann, but there are plenty of "high-end" consignment
stores. When my son was a baby, I got all his oshkosh 2nd hand...why pay
$40 new when you can get like-new for $15? All the Moms I know have shopped
2nd-hand, even though most can afford new.
Everyone I know can afford new, but they all hit the garage sales for
bargains. Not so much with consignment shops, though - they tend to be
in out-of-the-way places that makes them difficult to know about.
Woods
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'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for
wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told
to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing
in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is
wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their
child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said
Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a
letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt
that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told
officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her
values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best
way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with
teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students,
everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but the Catholic high school
he
will
attend does have uniforms. I would have hated it when I was a
teenager,
but
I think it's great now.
Jane
Well, hell, yes, if dressing everyone in the same clothes will result
in
less violence, then why not promote it for ALL Americans?
Imagine the daily fretting -- "I don't know what the ***** to wear
today?" -- will be gone! Just a closet and a chest of drawers full of
only
two solid colors? No more difficult attire decisions every day!
And since some university studies show IQ, mental concentration and
memory
retention improve, why not pass along this wonderful 'cure' to the
entire
population?
I support a constitutional amendment.
Doc :])
It HAS been shown that kids in uniform are better behaved. Aside from
that,
it takes away the expensive "brand-name" fetish that most kids have, at
least for school.
Well, speaking as someine who went to two schools that required uniform
I'll
say you're a bit off there. What actaully happens is that kids bend/break
the rules as far as they can (Lacoste socks and jumpers were the thing in
my
day!) to incorporate their label fetishes into the "uniform". Also, it
costs
a fair bit to kit kids out with a new uniform every year, so if your
parents
aren't as well off as others, you get to wear your brother's old uniform
(and my brother was a lot bigger than me!) or get it second/third hand
from
well meaning, though vaguely patronising (and often humiliating to a
teenager) "help" organisations within the school. Naturally, the designer
clothing snobs can spot a second hand blazer like a shark can detect a
drop
of blood in an olympic swimming pool..
There is an exchange of used uniforms among the parents in the school.
Since it is not a private school (ie does not require tuition...Catholic
schools are funded in Ontario) there are not a lot of rich kids. There
is little stigma about 2nd-hand here anymore! Sure, no one would be
caught dead at the Sally Ann, but there are plenty of "high-end"
consignment stores. When my son was a baby, I got all his oshkosh 2nd
hand...why pay $40 new when you can get like-new for $15? All the Moms I
know have shopped 2nd-hand, even though most can afford new.
Everyone I know can afford new, but they all hit the garage sales for
bargains. Not so much with consignment shops, though - they tend to be in
out-of-the-way places that makes them difficult to know about.
Woods
They must not be as popular where you are! Children's/ maternity
consignment stores are all over the place here!
Jane
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Jane wrote:
Yep. My son is not in high school yet, but
the Catholic high school he will attend
does have uniforms. I would have hated
it when I was a teenager, but I think it's
great now.
Yeah, me too.
Dear God! I'm turning into MY MOTHER!!
=:-O
aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
SuZanne
Can you get a pill for that?
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15 Apr 2005 04:54:36 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the
best way to handle it.
I think school uniforms are the best way to handle problems with teenage
attire. Let the school provide the uniforms to the students, everyone
gets the same thing - pants, shirt.
Woods
Not a bad idea. The other thing that this eliminates is the whole
'Fashion Disaster Meltdown' in the mornings.
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15 Apr 2005 08:00:17 AM |
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Jane wrote:
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113492387.099c9b89a53af1b35bd163632c27d7e9@teranews...
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
Jane
I agree that this is the best way to deal with this issue, but if the
school is going to allow kids to wear "Gay Pride" shirts,
anti-President Bush shirts and the like, then this young lady has
every right to wear the shirt of her choosing.
Tony
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15 Apr 2005 08:00:04 AM |
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'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
Jane
I agree that this is the best way to deal with this issue,'
No you don't, bitchtits, you just said doing such a thing was Nazism!
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Jane wrote:
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'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
The student, whose name was withheld, was sent to the principal's
office at her Rancho Cucamonga, Calif., school, where she was told to
change shirts or leave campus, according to the Pacific Justice
Institute, a Sacramento, Calif.-based public-interest law firm.
The front of the T-shirt says "tolerance is the virtue of believing in
nothing," and the back says "truth is truth - homosexuality is wrong."
Parents of the teen, described as an A student with no history of
disciplinary problems, called the institute for help.
"It is regrettable when parents have to choose which right their child
will be deprived of - free speech or a public education," said Kevin
Snider, chief counsel for PJI.
A PJI attorney immediately called the school and later faxed a letter
explaining the students' First Amendment rights apply on a school
campus.
School officials, pointing to a policy based on "tolerance and
diversity," explained a homosexual would be offended by a shirt that
says "homosexuality is a sin."
PJI's president, Brad Dacus, argued, however, "One-way tolerance is
not tolerance, but tyranny."
"Intolerance of students with religious or moral convictions should
have no place in public education," he said.
The school dropped its demand of the student after PJI told officials
she will continue to wear the shirt and others expressing her values
and beliefs, at her discretion.
My son's school bans ALL t-shirts with slogans! I think that is the best
way to handle it.
Jane
I agree that this is the best way to deal with this issue, but if the
school is going to allow kids to wear "Gay Pride" shirts,
anti-President Bush shirts and the like, then this young lady has
every right to wear the shirt of her choosing.
Tony
Yes, of course.
Jane
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14 Apr 2005 11:19:04 AM |
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wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt. The T-shirt was obviously worn in a deliberate attempt to
provoke. What is wrong with you fuckin' fundie shitheads eh pantyboy?
Don't the people she's trying to provoke have the right 'NOT' to see
the ***** printed on it? I hope they let her wear it but forced her
to wear a jacket or something all day to hide the ridiculous slogan on
it. Stupid fuckin' cow! <<==and her too!
WH
P.S. Was this the 'big story' on WorldNutDaily today or what?
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15 Apr 2005 07:55:31 AM |
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Chris the Nazi wrote:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt. The T-shirt was obviously worn in a deliberate attempt to
provoke. What is wrong with you fuckin' fundie shitheads eh pantyboy?
Don't the people she's trying to provoke have the right 'NOT' to see
the ***** printed on it? I hope they let her wear it but forced her
to wear a jacket or something all day to hide the ridiculous slogan on
it. Stupid fuckin' cow! <<==and her too!
WH
I see that you only believe in free speech when it supports your view,
eh Nazi?
Tony
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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14 Apr 2005 02:25:18 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> scribed:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt.
And I'll BET the offending student CLAIMS to be a 'loving Christian'...
:(
--
The truth is out there,
but it's not interesting enough for most people.
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15 Apr 2005 07:58:20 AM |
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Bud The Braindead wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> scribed:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt.
And I'll BET the offending student CLAIMS to be a 'loving Christian'...
:(
And who the ***** is she offending by wearing that shirt?
Tony
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| User: "tw" |
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15 Apr 2005 07:57:36 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1113569780.55b221f7edd62a6d84934b9a6f266102@teranews...
Bud The Braindead wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> scribed:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt.
And I'll BET the offending student CLAIMS to be a 'loving Christian'...
:(
And who the ***** is she offending by wearing that shirt?
Who would be offended by a "Christianity is wrong" T-shirt, Bitchtits?
Tony
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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16 Apr 2005 10:06:00 PM |
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tw wrote:
Who would be offended by a
"Christianity is wrong" T-shirt, Bitchtits?
ewwwww awful!!!
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CAN'T GET THE IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD!!
ahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahhahahahhhahahahhah
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ajaha
hahah
aahahhahahahahahahahahahahah!!!
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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15 Apr 2005 04:57:21 PM |
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wrote:
Bud The Braindead wrote:
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> scribed:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt.
And I'll BET the offending student CLAIMS to be a 'loving Christian'...
:(
And who the ***** is she offending by wearing that shirt?
Perhaps some gay/lesbian students who have already endured harassment,
name-calling and physical violence from people who think that it's okay
to punish people who are doing something they think is "wrong". Kind of
like wearing a "Christians are Infidels!" shirt in, say, Turkey.
Woods
Tony
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| User: "Hans D. Magnusson" |
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14 Apr 2005 12:01:14 PM |
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WH wrote / skrev:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt. The T-shirt was obviously worn in a deliberate attempt to
provoke. What is wrong with you fuckin' fundie shitheads eh pantyboy?
Don't the people she's trying to provoke have the right 'NOT' to see
the ***** printed on it? I hope they let her wear it but forced her
to wear a jacket or something all day to hide the ridiculous slogan on
it. Stupid fuckin' cow! <<==and her too!
WH
P.S. Was this the 'big story' on WorldNutDaily today or what?
Provoked? I'm provoked all the time by gay lobbyism. Yes, you can do
whatever you want in bed, WH. I would love to have the right not to see
the ***** gay lobbyists in the papers, in TV or in the street. They
are all over us.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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14 Apr 2005 12:30:44 PM |
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Hans D. Magnusson wrote:
WH wrote / skrev:
itw...@happen.com wrote:
'Homosexuality is wrong' spells trouble
School bars T-shirt, but First Amendment-rights win out
Posted: April 14, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
A high school student got in trouble with administrators for wearing
a
T-shirt that expressed her opposition to homosexual behavior.
And the silly ***** could've avoided the whole shebang by not wearing
the T-shirt. The T-shirt was obviously worn in a deliberate attempt to
provoke. What is wrong with you fuckin' fundie shitheads eh pantyboy?
Don't the people she's trying to provoke have the right 'NOT' to see
the ***** printed on it? I hope they let her wear it but forced her
to wear a jacket or something all day to hide the ridiculous slogan on
it. Stupid fuckin' cow! <<==and her too!
WH
P.S. Was this the 'big story' on WorldNutDaily today or what?
Provoked? I'm provoked all the time by gay lobbyism.
That's weird. Maybe it's your attire ( J/K ).
No such thing here ... other then the gay marriage broohaha that just
went thru the courts. But for me on a daily basis or whatever, can't say
I have gays and lesbians provoking me or the family in any manner. Of
course, we're not big news-hounds watching the news on the TV.
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14 Apr 2005 12:34:46 PM |
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