As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to 'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
13 Jul 2005 10:59:57 PM |
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to 'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam other than the violence.
Radical Islam clerics teach and preach a systemic approach to problem solving violence. The violence
of Colorado and the Oklahoma City bombing have no such connection. I know of no heavily orginized
Christian based church in the USA that promotes violence in the same fassion. Perhaps the local
Catholics have some weird secret meeting place no one knows about? Or maybe the Baptists have a
secret factory where they're making suicide vests.
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 02:45:01 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full
validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it
still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it
is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to
'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be
different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their
'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North
America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are
just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just
falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for
all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam
other than the violence.
How surprising..
Radical Islam clerics teach and preach a systemic approach to problem
solving violence. The violence
of Colorado and the Oklahoma City bombing have no such connection. I know
of no heavily orginized
Christian based church in the USA that promotes violence in the same
fassion.
"Fashion". Well, come to the UK and I'll find you "Christian" based
orginasiations and churches which promte violence..
Perhaps the local
Catholics have some weird secret meeting place no one knows about? Or
maybe the Baptists have a
secret factory where they're making suicide vests.
They stick to pipe bombs, petrol bombs and grenades, generally.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
13 Jul 2005 11:40:56 PM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it
still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is
no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to
'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different
and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring',
and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America
should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are
just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just
falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for
all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam
other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they had
been unfairly dealt with by society. All were carried out by young men,
angry with an (in their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then
there will always be terrorism... because, there will always be people who
feel they have been treated unfairly, or shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on
terror can never be won. You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll
still have a cold... and until the cold is cured, the snot will continue to
cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a cold.
.
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 12:01:26 AM |
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"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:newscache$g2tlji$22i$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to 'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they had been unfairly dealt
with by society. All were carried out by young men, angry with an (in their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then there will always be
terrorism... because, there will always be people who feel they have been treated unfairly, or
shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on terror can never be won.
You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll still have a cold... and until the cold is cured,
the snot will continue to cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a cold.
Cough......cough. What a bunch of horseshit. Rectify unjust societies? Stop people from feeling like
they're being treated unfairly? What color is that world you live in?
I can see why I missed the point.............it was pointless.
Oh yeah, good luck on your crusade.....ROTFLMAO.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 12:29:11 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:bf422$42d5f1a9$40762651$29404@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:newscache$g2tlji$22i$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full
validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it
still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it
is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to
'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons
of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be
different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their
'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North
America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they
are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are
just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability
for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there
Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam
other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they
had been unfairly dealt with by society. All were carried out by young
men, angry with an (in their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then
there will always be terrorism... because, there will always be people
who feel they have been treated unfairly, or shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on
terror can never be won. You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll
still have a cold... and until the cold is cured, the snot will continue
to cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a cold.
Cough......cough. What a bunch of horseshit. Rectify unjust societies?
Stop people from feeling like they're being treated unfairly? What color
is that world you live in?
The colour of inequity.
I can see why I missed the point.............it was pointless.
I now realise that it's pointless trying to illustrate these issues for you.
Oh yeah, good luck on your crusade.....ROTFLMAO.
You said earlier with regard to the British-born bombers, that they are the
worst case scenario, because you can never know who they are until it's to
late... Well, I'd like to know your theories on how you would fight and win
a war against an undefinable, unquantifiiable enemy? How do you know you've
won?
Go on, laugh it off Mr. Military Parrot.
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 12:09:25 AM |
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"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:newscache$g2tlji$22i$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to 'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they had been unfairly dealt
with by society. All were carried out by young men, angry with an (in their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then there will always be
terrorism... because, there will always be people who feel they have been treated unfairly, or
shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on terror can never be won.
You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll still have a cold... and until the cold is cured,
the snot will continue to cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a cold.
I'd also like to know how many of the "misunderstood and unjustly treated" London KILLERS had
western opportunities. College, families, homes, food on the table, etc.
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 02:46:02 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
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"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:newscache$g2tlji$22i$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the
anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full
validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it
still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it
is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to
'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons
of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be
different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their
'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North
America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they
are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are
just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability
for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there
Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam
other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they
had been unfairly dealt
with by society. All were carried out by young men, angry with an (in
their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then
there will always be
terrorism... because, there will always be people who feel they have
been treated unfairly, or
shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on
terror can never be won.
You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll still have a cold...
and until the cold is cured,
the snot will continue to cascade down your face. No amount of nose
wiping can cure a cold.
I'd also like to know how many of the "misunderstood and unjustly treated"
London KILLERS had
western opportunities. College, families, homes, food on the table, etc.
Dylan and Kleebold weren't exactly poor either, were they?
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 12:32:23 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
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"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:newscache$g2tlji$22i$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:8fd46$42d5e340$40762651$25327@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full
validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it
still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it
is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to
'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons
of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be
different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their
'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North
America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they
are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are
just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability
for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there
Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam
other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they
had been unfairly dealt with by society. All were carried out by young
men, angry with an (in their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then
there will always be terrorism... because, there will always be people
who feel they have been treated unfairly, or shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on
terror can never be won. You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll
still have a cold... and until the cold is cured, the snot will continue
to cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a cold.
I'd also like to know how many of the "misunderstood and unjustly treated"
London KILLERS had western opportunities. College, families, homes, food
on the table, etc.
***** man... you're a professional point misser...
They felt ostrasized... like they'd been cast out of society because of *****
heads like you, looking down your nose at them for being muslim, and
confirming to them exactly what their ***** masters have told them about
westeners.
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| User: "mondo" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 12:24:14 AM |
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This is *****!
Blacks don't blow themselves up,
Mexicans don't blow themselves up,
Gay's don't blow themselves up,
Native Indians don't blow themselves up,
Hindus don't blow themselves up.
Buddhists don't blow themselves up.
Christians don't blow themselves up
Street kids and poor people don't blow themselves up.
Even the mentally ill don't blow themselves up.
There are many, many things that many people don't like about our society,
but they don't blow themselves up!
Where are you getting this philosophy from?
mondo
"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9ZkBe.5678$6e3.551703@news20.bellglobal.com...
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full
validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it
still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it
is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to
'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be
different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their
'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North
America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are
just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just
falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for
all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam
other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they
had been unfairly dealt with by society. All were carried out by young
men, angry with an (in their eyes) unjust society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then
there will always be terrorism... because, there will always be people who
feel they have been treated unfairly, or shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on
terror can never be won. You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll
still have a cold... and until the cold is cured, the snot will continue
to cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a cold.
.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: How To Spot Your Neighborhood Terrorist. |
14 Jul 2005 12:53:15 AM |
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
news:cGmBe.7565$EP2.34355@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
This is *****!
I know... why'd you bother posting it?
Blacks don't blow themselves up,
Mexicans don't blow themselves up,
Gay's don't blow themselves up,
Native Indians don't blow themselves up,
Hindus don't blow themselves up.
Buddhists don't blow themselves up.
Christians don't blow themselves up
Street kids and poor people don't blow themselves up.
Even the mentally ill don't blow themselves up.
There are many, many things that many people don't like about our society,
but they don't blow themselves up!
That's tripe. In any group of ***** individuals, there will be those
who will take more extreme action than the others. Given a large enough
group of (for example) ***** Bhuddists, there will be a percentage who
will take more extreme action than the rest. See Vietnam War protests.
Where are you getting this philosophy from?
Does that matter? Really?
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14 Jul 2005 01:40:49 AM |
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Does that matter? Really?
When they come to "mop up" your "TERRORIST *****" , then you'll be able to
answer that question yourself!.
mondo
"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
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This is *****!
I know... why'd you bother posting it?
Blacks don't blow themselves up,
Mexicans don't blow themselves up,
Gay's don't blow themselves up,
Native Indians don't blow themselves up,
Hindus don't blow themselves up.
Buddhists don't blow themselves up.
Christians don't blow themselves up
Street kids and poor people don't blow themselves up.
Even the mentally ill don't blow themselves up.
There are many, many things that many people don't like about our
society, but they don't blow themselves up!
That's tripe. In any group of ***** individuals, there will be those
who will take more extreme action than the others. Given a large enough
group of (for example) ***** Bhuddists, there will be a percentage
who will take more extreme action than the rest. See Vietnam War
protests.
Where are you getting this philosophy from?
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14 Jul 2005 01:54:12 AM |
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
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Does that matter? Really?
When they come to "mop up" your "TERRORIST *****" , then you'll be able to
answer that question yourself!.
No, I can answer it now... It doesn't matter.
Maybe it was my Imam... you just never know mondo... maybe it was your mum.
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14 Jul 2005 01:58:44 AM |
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Incoherent dribble.
"Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message
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Does that matter? Really?
When they come to "mop up" your "TERRORIST *****" , then you'll be able to
answer that question yourself!.
No, I can answer it now... It doesn't matter.
Maybe it was my Imam... you just never know mondo... maybe it was your
mum.
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| User: "John Smith" |
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15 Jul 2005 01:40:14 AM |
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To Put Some POSTers In-Coherent DRIBBLE into a Context that maybe they can
"Understand".
I live in this Region of North America (surrounded by the Southern Great Lakes), and
I Will Do Anything I can to prevent what I see as an 'inevitable attack' by
"mis-guided youth" TERRORIST from HAPPENING !!! (and, I do mean ANYTHING - within the
LAW).
Awareness is the first thing that "I can do" to make people aware of their
surroundings. For those that think it will not happen here, "Dig Your Heads Out Of The
Sand!!!"
You might think this as Selfishness on my part, But, "Survival Is The Name Of The Game
!!!" - (I feel that this is what I have 'sensed' in the last week - and 'copy-cat'
scenarios are just waiting to be 'Repeated'.)
This region is 'Ripe' with 'disillusioned' youth looking to make their mark on
society.
Some will settle for stealing from their neighbors, but some (I feel) are much more
ambitious !!!
This 'Original' POST was meant to bring awareness to your surroundings, And HOPEFULLY
it was successful (no it was not meant as a Liberal Minded justification for why these
things happen). It was mainly POSTed to make you aware of the potential of what your
self-respecting neighbors 'Offspring' may be up to !!!
And to show you that this 'dissention is not limited to Musslim children, but all
youth between the ages of 14 to 24.
:-(]
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15 Jul 2005 09:39:11 AM |
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A better discription of what you are doing is "crying wolf"
mondo
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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To Put Some POSTers In-Coherent DRIBBLE into a Context that maybe they can
"Understand".
I live in this Region of North America (surrounded by the Southern Great
Lakes), and
I Will Do Anything I can to prevent what I see as an 'inevitable attack'
by
"mis-guided youth" TERRORIST from HAPPENING !!! (and, I do mean ANYTHING -
within the
LAW).
Awareness is the first thing that "I can do" to make people aware of their
surroundings. For those that think it will not happen here, "Dig Your
Heads Out Of The
Sand!!!"
You might think this as Selfishness on my part, But, "Survival Is The Name
Of The Game
!!!" - (I feel that this is what I have 'sensed' in the last week - and
'copy-cat'
scenarios are just waiting to be 'Repeated'.)
This region is 'Ripe' with 'disillusioned' youth looking to make their
mark on
society.
Some will settle for stealing from their neighbors, but some (I feel) are
much more
ambitious !!!
This 'Original' POST was meant to bring awareness to your surroundings,
And HOPEFULLY
it was successful (no it was not meant as a Liberal Minded justification
for why these
things happen). It was mainly POSTed to make you aware of the potential of
what your
self-respecting neighbors 'Offspring' may be up to !!!
And to show you that this 'dissention is not limited to Musslim children,
but all
youth between the ages of 14 to 24.
:-(]
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| User: "mondo" |
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15 Jul 2005 09:36:18 AM |
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You are full of *******. You are not preventing anything!
mondo
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:QSIBe.13283$qg1.1094320@news20.bellglobal.com...
To Put Some POSTers In-Coherent DRIBBLE into a Context that maybe they can
"Understand".
I live in this Region of North America (surrounded by the Southern Great
Lakes), and
I Will Do Anything I can to prevent what I see as an 'inevitable attack'
by
"mis-guided youth" TERRORIST from HAPPENING !!! (and, I do mean ANYTHING -
within the
LAW).
Awareness is the first thing that "I can do" to make people aware of their
surroundings. For those that think it will not happen here, "Dig Your
Heads Out Of The
Sand!!!"
You might think this as Selfishness on my part, But, "Survival Is The Name
Of The Game
!!!" - (I feel that this is what I have 'sensed' in the last week - and
'copy-cat'
scenarios are just waiting to be 'Repeated'.)
This region is 'Ripe' with 'disillusioned' youth looking to make their
mark on
society.
Some will settle for stealing from their neighbors, but some (I feel) are
much more
ambitious !!!
This 'Original' POST was meant to bring awareness to your surroundings,
And HOPEFULLY
it was successful (no it was not meant as a Liberal Minded justification
for why these
things happen). It was mainly POSTed to make you aware of the potential of
what your
self-respecting neighbors 'Offspring' may be up to !!!
And to show you that this 'dissention is not limited to Musslim children,
but all
youth between the ages of 14 to 24.
:-(]
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14 Jul 2005 12:29:30 AM |
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"mondo" <m@ndo.com> wrote in message news:cGmBe.7565$EP2.34355@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
This is *****!
Blacks don't blow themselves up,
Mexicans don't blow themselves up,
Gay's don't blow themselves up,
Native Indians don't blow themselves up,
Hindus don't blow themselves up.
Buddhists don't blow themselves up.
Christians don't blow themselves up
Street kids and poor people don't blow themselves up.
Even the mentally ill don't blow themselves up.
There are many, many things that many people don't like about our society, but they don't blow
themselves up!
Where are you getting this philosophy from?
mondo
I like you.
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to 'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
:-(]
I see no similarity between Colorado/Federal building and radical Islam other than the violence.
Way to miss the point... again...
All were commited by people who either felt like outcasts, or that they had been unfairly dealt
with by society. All were carried out by young men, angry with an (in their eyes) unjust
society.
Until we (humanity) can rectify the unjust societies we've created, then there will always be
terrorism... because, there will always be people who feel they have been treated unfairly, or
shunned.
Terrorism is only a symptom of an unjust society. That's why the war on terror can never be won.
You can wipe the snot from your nose, but you'll still have a cold... and until the cold is
cured, the snot will continue to cascade down your face. No amount of nose wiping can cure a
cold.
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14 Jul 2005 01:04:15 AM |
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I guess I left out the four kids that tried to Blow-Up the Litton Plant in Toronto,
Canada; "Just because they thought they where opposing the War Effort." (thanks Aiden
for reminding me.)
But, your right ,White Kids just don't do these things, RIGHT!!! :-()
Wake Up !!!
:-(]
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14 Jul 2005 07:00:44 AM |
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I guess I left out the four kids that tried to Blow-Up the Litton Plant in
Toronto,
Canada; "Just because they thought they where opposing the War Effort."
(thanks Aiden
for reminding me.)
But, your right ,White Kids just don't do these things, RIGHT!!! :-()
Wake Up !!!
While your post is in some respects a worthy one, comparing kids who wanted
to blow up a factory without loss of life vs those who would blow up a
subway crammed with people or a pizza shop or disco in Israel is comparing
apples to oranges, don't you think?
Still you are correct that parents should pay attention to their kids. In
some cases of radical Islam the parents are onside, however. Remember the
Khadr family?
Jane
:-(]
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14 Jul 2005 08:39:20 PM |
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Actually Jane, I believe Litton was into nuclear technology at the time. And ( if I
remember right ) if the bomb had gone off, Toronto would be one big un-usable hole in
the ground right now.
But your right, I am just trying to show how the smarter re-clusive types could be
considered dangerous. - If left unsupervised !!!
:-(]
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14 Jul 2005 09:44:30 PM |
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Actually Jane, I believe Litton was into nuclear technology at the time.
And ( if I
remember right ) if the bomb had gone off, Toronto would be one big
un-usable hole in
the ground right now.
You don't remember correctly, in fact. I remember the incident, because it
was the early 80s and I was a university student then and quite the liberal
(hadn't grown up yet). I likely had some affinity for the terrorists!
Anyway, did some checking and the bomb DID go off and injured a few people.
They were producing missile guidance systems for American cruise
missiles...nothing to do with nukes! (Remember all the hoopla..."refuse the
cruise"...and all that. The Greenpeacers would have us believe at that time
that the Americans would be testing nuclear-armed cruise missiles over
Alberta, when they were testing unarmed ones! The gullible believed it
tho' )
But your right, I am just trying to show how the smarter re-clusive types
could be
considered dangerous. - If left unsupervised !!!
You failed to address the question of some (not all, of course) muslim
extremist youth having their parents' blessing!
Jane
:-(]
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14 Jul 2005 10:28:07 PM |
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Thanks Jane. It was long ago (and far away) atleast for me. As I wasn't living in the
vicinity at the time. (Although I do remember the van being parked in the wrong spot
[mistake by the Extremists] prevented any serious damage). - Although, I do not doubt
the "Hoopla" about catastrophic destruction was a "Media/Political" Hype used to
attack the 'dissident's at the time.
None the less, it was four 'delusional' people that relied on a thing that we would
now refer to as "Terrorism" to try 'PUSH' their cause!!!
"Terrorists" is only a name used by people on Our Side (and I do not mean you
personally) to describe our Opposing Adversaries when they use Tactics that Our Side
hasn't thought of YET !!!
Does anyone remember the 'secondary reaction' to Mustard Gas from WWI. After the
Initial Shock, the next thing considered was "How do we make our own version of this
stuff."
Sad, But True !!!
:-(]
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15 Jul 2005 06:57:38 AM |
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Jane. It was long ago (and far away) atleast for me. As I wasn't
living in the
vicinity at the time. (Although I do remember the van being parked in the
wrong spot
[mistake by the Extremists] prevented any serious damage). - Although, I
do not doubt
the "Hoopla" about catastrophic destruction was a "Media/Political" Hype
used to
attack the 'dissident's at the time.
None the less, it was four 'delusional' people that relied on a thing that
we would
now refer to as "Terrorism" to try 'PUSH' their cause!!!
"Terrorists" is only a name used by people on Our Side (and I do not mean
you
personally) to describe our Opposing Adversaries when they use Tactics
that Our Side
hasn't thought of YET !!!
Does anyone remember the 'secondary reaction' to Mustard Gas from WWI.
After the
Initial Shock, the next thing considered was "How do we make our own
version of this
stuff."
Sad, But True !!!
Tha nature fo the beast, I'm afraid, :(
Jane
:-(]
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14 Jul 2005 12:34:40 AM |
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Sorry to dis-agree with you on this one Mondo, but do not think that those two kids
that 'stormed' Columbine High School did not REALIZE their own inevitability. Do you
HONESTLY think that they felt that after it was all over, the could just 'Go Home' as
if nothing had happened ???
:-()
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14 Jul 2005 07:35:01 PM |
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"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Sorry to dis-agree with you on this one Mondo, but do not think that those two kids
that 'stormed' Columbine High School did not REALIZE their own inevitability. Do you
HONESTLY think that they felt that after it was all over, the could just 'Go Home' as
if nothing had happened ???
:-()
Of course they didn't plan to live. Their journals made that point painfully clear. Still, that's an
invalid comparison. It's basic liberal, moral equivalency crap. I hear it everyday on NPR. Let me
spell out the difference, though it won't do any good. The Islamic extremists have a system of
indoctrination. They'll do anything to suck young people in. The 4 young men who perpetrated the
bombing were definetly influenced by such ilk. Like it or not, the crap they were influenced by came
from a mosque. The clerics who targeted them know exactly what to look for in a young person. They
can see personality features that would make them vulnerable to influence and exploit it. Overly
vulnerable young people are a part of every society. You can't prevent it. What you can do is
identify the predators and remove them from society. Basically the same that's done with sexual
predators. Gitmo is a very good example of how to deal with these people. Supermax incarceration
could be another.
The boys from Colorado were isolated examples of bad seed. Evil, mind you. Both had superior
intelligence and physical capabilities. They came from upper middle class families. The weapons they
secured came from a stupid adult who they manipulated. As for being bullied, the two were large for
their size and had a background in athletics. They WERE the bullies. They were in love with control
and power. One could argue that their negative influence came from the neo-nazi movement. However,
no single person or group of influence has been identified as a mentor or leader. If they had been
indoctorated by a Klansman or neo-nazi group, then I'd say the comparison was valid. The two were
prime examples of lone nuts.
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14 Jul 2005 12:18:57 AM |
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OK, maybe the incident at Columbine High School was a 'reach', but the incident at
Oklahoma was in direct response to a (perceived) injustice to a religious following.
If you cannot see this, then maybe, you are part of the PROBLEM ???
:-(]
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13 Jul 2005 10:55:24 PM |
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GOOD POST!
SuZanne
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14 Jul 2005 07:47:00 AM |
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"Su Zanadu" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> wrote in message
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GOOD POST!
SuZanne
Yes, indeed.
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15 Jul 2005 01:36:46 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:28:34 -0400, "John Smith"
<someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It taught us that times are a changin' .. for the much worse.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
Oh I wouldn't say that. Muslim children are taught from a very
young age to hate, and to attack Westerners. They are brainwashed
to believe we are "infidels" and we are their enemy.
North America on the other other hand strives to teach the children to
be accepting, loving and non-prejudicial.
What was that commandment? Oh yes: "Love thy neighbor"
Big, big difference between our morals and what is ingrained in us
at a young age.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
A few whackos.. don't confuse them with the everyday normal/good
people.
When I was young, it was know as rebelling against the system - and it still is. Its
just that now, stealing a car is not enough.
When I was younger, smoking cigarettes in the girls' bathroom at
school and staying out 'till 2am was my rebellion against the system.
Now shootings in school? Unheard of in my school days. It was never
a fear instilled in any of us then.
As for ways to spot these types of 'deviations'. Believe it or not, it is no different
then
spotting you next High School Bomber!!! It is usually associated to 'above' average
students who feel cut off from the rest of the 'IN' crowd for reasons of
'indifference'
Very true. And very sad. We had plenty of "misfits" when I was
growing up in school - but again, we never could've possibly fathomed
the idea that they would start shooting students and staff and
themselves.
And just for the record: I was one of the only people who would talk
to and be nice to the misfits.
I think there should be more counseling in school - and more
counseling outside of school. When we are in high school, we
never imagine growing up; we think this is how it's going to be.
And kids can be cruel. I wish the misfits would realize that this
is *temporary* - it will pass, and it may just be a faint memory
when they hit 25.
Adolescence is not only mentally difficult, but physically difficult.
They are going through so much; they are going through quite the
transition. If only they could see that this torment they feel is NOT
forever.. And what doesn't kill them makes them stronger.
And another very unfortunate fact is that *looks* are extremely
important in middle school/high school. If they aren't up to the
other kids' "standard" of looks/fashion they will have a very hard
time. That is another thing I'd like to remind them...they will
blossom; they will change their looks as they grow older.
I guess the bottom line is "you have to go through hell to get to
Heaven." And I've no doubt they will make it through these tough
years.
(or more commonly, they feel the need for their lifestyle to be different and the
only CORRECT
lifestyle).
Of course. See above.
Most parents refuse to spot these lifestyle changes in their 'offspring', and this is
where
the TRUE Problem is!
Not always. Parents play a intricate part.. but I've seen some of the
best parents have the most misbehaved kids. *Change has to come from
within*. And a lot of it is peer pressure from their schoolmates.
The Musslim Community that wishes for a better life here in North America should not
be held
fully accountable for the actions of their children. After all, they are just
bringing up their children the best the can, and their children are just falling into
the 'trap' of trying to fit in. The real problem lies in the ability for all parents
(and I mean "All Parents") to spot improper behavior of there Offspring.
See above. It is not always the parents. Sometimes, of course. But
not always. Remember.. kids are individuals.
"An once of prevention out measures a pound of obscure."
Working Towards A Better World For All Of Us.
yes sir!
Dani
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17 Jul 2005 02:45:28 PM |
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Dani wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:28:34 -0400, "John Smith"
<someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
As if Columbine and Oklahoma have not taught us anything.
It taught us that times are a changin' .. for the much worse.
It appears that Musslim children are no more susceptible to the anguish
of growing up in modern society than and Christian (or other) child in
North America.
Oh I wouldn't say that. Muslim children are taught from a very
young age to hate, and to attack Westerners. They are brainwashed
to believe we are "infidels" and we are their enemy.
North America on the other other hand strives to teach the children to
be accepting, loving and non-prejudicial.
What was that commandment? Oh yes: "Love thy neighbor"
Big, big difference between our morals and what is ingrained in us
at a young age.
The latest findings in Britain seem to have given this 'full validity'!!!
A few whackos.. don't confuse them with the everyday normal/good
people.
That's right. I interact with normal/good people of Islamic culture on
a daily basis. But your statment concering what Muslims are taught at
an early age is correct. Western society does itself a disservice by
choosing to ignore that fact for the sake of political correc tness.
[quoting] What Are Islamic Schools Teaching?
By Daniel Pipes
CNSNews.com Commentary
March 29, 2005
"Shocked" is how Aisha Sherazi, principal of the Abraar Islamic school
in Ottawa, described the reaction of the school's administration and
board on learning last week that two of its teachers had incited hatred
of Jews.
And "shocked" was how Mumtaz Akhtar, president of the Muslim-Community
Council of Ottawa-Gatineau, described his own reaction to the
front-page news about the Abraar school.
But they may have been the only two persons on the planet to be
"shocked" to learn that teachers at an Islamic school are promoting
anti-Semitism or other aspects of the Islamist agenda. The fact is,
inquiries into Islamic schools repeatedly discover just such a radical
Islamic outlook. Some examples:
-- New York City: An investigation by the New York Daily News in 2003
found that books used in the city's Muslim schools "are rife with
inaccuracies, sweeping condemnations of Jews and Christians, and
triumphalist declarations of Islam's supremacy."
-- Los Angeles: The Omar Ibn Khattab Foundation donated 300 Korans
(titled The Meaning of the Holy Quran) to the city school district in
2001 that within months had to be pulled from school libraries because
of its anti-Semitic commentaries. One footnote reads: "The Jews in
their arrogance claimed that all wisdom and all knowledge of Allah was
enclosed in their hearts. ... Their claim was not only arrogance but
blasphemy."
-- Ajax, Ontario, 50 kilometers east of Toronto: The Institute of
Islamic Learning is a Canadian emulation of the extremist Deobandi
madrassahs of Pakistan. It focuses exclusively on religious topics, has
students memorize the Koran, demands total segregation from the
Canadian milieu, and requires complete gender separation. Former
students complained about the school's cult-like devotion to its head,
Abdul Majid Khan, and complained that it "twisted religion and used it
to its own benefit."
Then there are four leading Islamic schools in the Washington, D.C.,
area:
-- The Muslim Community School in Potomac, Maryland, imbues in its
students a sense of alienation from their own country. Seventh-grader
Miriam told a Washington Post reporter in 2001, "Being American is just
being born in this country." Eighth-grader Ibrahim announced that
"Being an American means nothing to me."
-- A textbook used at the Islamic Saudi Academy of Alexandria,
Virginia, in 2004, authored and published by the Saudi Ministry of
Education, teaches first graders that "all religions, other than Islam,
are false, including that of the Jews [and] Christians." An ISA class
valedictorian, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, was recently indicted for plotting
to assassinate President Bush.
-- The U.S. government revoked the visas in 2004 of sixteen people
affiliated with the Institute for Islamic and Arabic Sciences in
America, of Fairfax, Virginia. In the words of the Washington Post,
"That decision followed accusations that the institute, a satellite
campus of al-Imam Muhammad Ibn Saud Islamic University in Riyadh, was
promoting a brand of Islam that critics say is intolerant of other
strains of the religion as well as Christianity and Judaism." In
addition, the IIASA is under investigation for ties to terrorism.
-- The Graduate School of Islamic Social Sciences of Ashburn, Virginia,
referred to as a "purported" educational institution in an affidavit
justifying a raid on the school, had its financial records seized in
2002 on suspicions of links to terrorism.
Nor are schools the exception among Islamic institutions in North
America. A recent study by Freedom House found a parallel problem of
venomous anti-Jewish and anti-Christian materials in U.S. mosques.
The most prominent American Muslim organizations, especially the
Council on American-Islamic Relations, spew anti-Semitism and host a
neo-Nazi. The same applies in Canada, where the head of the Canadian
Islamic Congress, Mohamed Elmasry, publicly endorsed the murder of all
Israelis over the age of eighteen.
So long as Muslim leaders simply declare themselves, in the spirit of
Capt. Renault in the movie Casablanca "shocked, shocked" whenever news
of Islamist supremacism leaks out, this cancer will continue unabated.
The Islamic schools, the mosques, and other Muslim organizations like
CAIR and CIC will continue their cat-and-mouse game so long as it
works.
It won't work only when outside pressure is brought to bear on them by
politicians, journalists, researchers, moderate Muslims, and others.
They must state clearly and frequently the unacceptability of Islamist
venom.
Only then will today's fraudulent "shocked" reaction finally become
sincere.
(Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum and author of
Militant Islam Reaches America. He has a Ph.D. in early Islamic history
from Harvard and taught at Harvard and the University of Chicago.)
Copyright 2005, Daniel Pipes
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