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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: ""
Date: 28 Jun 2005 04:01:23 PM
Object: I beg this group to.......
...........gather up your spare change and send QueerWolf here to meet
my challenge, obviously the little girl is using the excuse that he
doesn't want to waste money coming here.
So if he has no money to lose, he will be out of excuses.
I beg you Tommy Boy, John F. Lemke, Chris, Dani, Amy, Aiden, Susan,
Krib and any other Liberal puke that I left out to PLEASE gather up
your spare money and send this clown to his destruction.
Get it over with already, or else STFU and admit that your boy is a
coward.
You don't know how badly I want to get this guy in the ring and
literally tear his head off, but it will all be done legally with him
signing a legal paper acknowledging that he, by stepping into the ring
with me is in all likelyhood going to be seriously injured.
I beg you for this chance, I will even leave this group if you all
chip in to get him here.
Now do it, or like I said STFU!
Tony
.

User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 04:55:12 PM
wrote:

..........gather up your spare change and send QueerWolf here to meet
my challenge, obviously the little girl is using the excuse that he
doesn't want to waste money coming here.

So if he has no money to lose, he will be out of excuses.

I beg you Tommy Boy, John F. Lemke, Chris, Dani, Amy, Aiden, Susan,
Krib and any other Liberal puke that I left out to PLEASE gather up
your spare money and send this clown to his destruction.

Get it over with already, or else STFU and admit that your boy is a
coward.

You don't know how badly I want to get this guy in the ring and
literally tear his head off, but it will all be done legally with him
signing a legal paper acknowledging that he, by stepping into the ring
with me is in all likelyhood going to be seriously injured.

I beg you for this chance, I will even leave this group if you all
chip in to get him here.

Now do it, or like I said STFU!

Tony

Funny No Rocky soundtrack?
Must be the fight of the Pantywaists, no gusset too Big
Oh yes Asimov said violence is the last act of an incompetent.
LB
.
User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 05:09:55 PM
LB wrote:

TheSilver@Bullet.com wrote:

..........gather up your spare change and send QueerWolf here to meet
my challenge, obviously the little girl is using the excuse that he
doesn't want to waste money coming here.

So if he has no money to lose, he will be out of excuses.

I beg you Tommy Boy, John F. Lemke, Chris, Dani, Amy, Aiden, Susan,
Krib and any other Liberal puke that I left out to PLEASE gather up
your spare money and send this clown to his destruction.

Get it over with already, or else STFU and admit that your boy is a
coward.

You don't know how badly I want to get this guy in the ring and
literally tear his head off, but it will all be done legally with him
signing a legal paper acknowledging that he, by stepping into the ring
with me is in all likelyhood going to be seriously injured.

I beg you for this chance, I will even leave this group if you all
chip in to get him here.

Now do it, or like I said STFU!

Tony

Funny No Rocky soundtrack?
Must be the fight of the Pantywaists, no gusset too Big
Oh yes Asimov said violence is the last act of an incompetent.
LB

Yep, the last act of QueerWolf as he is carried out on a stretcher.
Tony
.


User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 04:08:07 PM
Now do it, or like I said STFU!
You are losing it Sunshine. A little more each day. Not much left now I
suppose.
Awwww Tony Z....
"You don't know how badly I want to get this guy in the ring and
literally tear his head off"
One teensy eensy wincy tincy e mail..that will be more than enough.
Werewolfy
.
User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 04:55:02 PM
QueerWolf wrote:

Now do it, or like I said STFU!
You are losing it Sunshine. A little more each day. Not much left now I
suppose.

Uh, wrong again *****, the only one losing anything is you, a
cowardly ***** who made claims of "coming to get" me, and now when
met with a real life challeneg has backed down like a little girl.

Awwww Tony Z....
"You don't know how badly I want to get this guy in the ring and
literally tear his head off"
One teensy eensy wincy tincy e mail.
Werewolfy

Look here *****, I am not going to invite you to my house, get over
you little fantasy, come meet me one on one in thr ring as per my
challenge, if you can't muster up the courage to do so, admit it, I
won't hound you for it, most men can't do it.
Your e-mail BS is just that, BS, nothing I can do via e-mail that
hasn't already been dome in this group.
Now are you coming to get your sorry ***** hospitalized? Or are you too
scared?
Tony
.
User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 05:19:44 PM
I am not going to invite you to my house
Oh you have it all wrong. I don't want you to invite me. I just want to
know where it is.
E mail please
Werewolfy
.
User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 05:47:41 PM
QueerWolf wrote:

I am not going to invite you to my house
Oh you have it all wrong. I don't want you to invite me. I just want to
know where it is.
Werewolfy

Know this, Moron, if you or anyone assoicated with you shows up here I
will take it as a threat on my life and use all measures up to and
including deadly force to defend myself.
Is that where you wish to take this, *****?
Too scared to get in the ring with me, but willing to assault me with
a group?
You are once again exposed as a coward, I fear nothing you have to
offer, you on the other hand are a gutless coward who has to resort to
getting a group to help him.
Tony
.
User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 05:54:26 PM
Is that where you wish to take this, *****?
The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.
Werewolfy
.
User: "sirlurksalot"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 07:10:15 PM
In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy

Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe, face to
face, on equal footing.
Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a goon squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you kicked his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you to show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only a moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting face to
face.
The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the yellow-bellied twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony offered, and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his own
cowardice. I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.
I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit is taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).
.
User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 08:20:09 PM
"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe, face to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you kicked his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting face
to
face.

And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect someone to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.
Face it, if Tony seriously wants someone to turn up, he has to get serious
about organising it... as of now, he's ***** footing around like a pansy,
dancing like mad in an attempt to dodge any difficult issues he's created
for himself.
He's expecting people to trust him that this is all for real... so why
shouldn't he trust werewolfy with his details? If Tony truely wants this
(who knows why), he's going to have to trust werewolfy as much as he's
expecting werewolfy to trust him... so far, he's just been fart-arsing
around playing silly buggers.

The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the yellow-bellied
twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony offered, and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his own
cowardice.

LOL! Perfectly legal? strange way to put it... how about "completely
absurd"?
Here's the deal:
Tony: "Fight me you weak ***** bitches"
Werewolfy: "OK"
Tony: "You're not here yet! You coward!"
Werewolfy: "Tell me, where and when... I would also like some guarantee of
satisfaction that this event will take place upon my arrival"
Tony: "In a gym... some where... you're still not here, and therefore a
coward"
Werewolfy: "Sorry, need more specifics..."
Tony: "No, you're a coward because you're not already here"
Werewolfy: "Where, when? How will you guarantee you won't back out?
Tony: "coward"
..........rinse, lather, repeat.
I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.

I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.

You're Tony's worshipper? Poor you...

I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit is
taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).

Gee, it must really ***** you off that without France, America would still be
a part of the Brittish Empire...
.
User: "Tugboat Captain"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 06:06:55 AM

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.

Sure, but it wasn't in APN. Nothing but madness in here. And yes, that
includes me too.
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 07:03:53 AM
"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
news:jhvwe.141094$dP1.494240@newsc.telia.net...


I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Sure, but it wasn't in APN. Nothing but madness in here. And yes, that
includes me too.

Only when you're on the Mariestad, Hasse!
.
User: "Tugboat Captain"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 03:53:18 PM
tw wrote / skrev:

"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
news:jhvwe.141094$dP1.494240@newsc.telia.net...

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Sure, but it wasn't in APN. Nothing but madness in here. And yes, that
includes me too.



Only when you're on the Mariestad, Hasse!


Yeah, soon. Real soon! Turning 38 on the first of July. And tw, I'm
still waiting to hear those recordings!
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 30 Jun 2005 04:23:11 AM
"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
news:2TDwe.28274$d5.181315@newsb.telia.net...

tw wrote / skrev:

"Tugboat Captain" <Tug@boat.captain> wrote in message
news:jhvwe.141094$dP1.494240@newsc.telia.net...

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Sure, but it wasn't in APN. Nothing but madness in here. And yes, that
includes me too.



Only when you're on the Mariestad, Hasse!



Yeah, soon. Real soon! Turning 38 on the first of July.

Ooh.. Well in that case, grattis på din födelsdag! (won't be here tomorrow,
nice long weekend)

And tw, I'm still waiting to hear those recordings!

I know, I know.. I'm terrible at finishing stuff..
.




User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 10:54:34 PM
Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe, face to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you kicked his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect someone to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.

Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?


Face it, if Tony seriously wants someone to turn up, he has to get serious
about organising it... as of now, he's ***** footing around like a pansy,
dancing like mad in an attempt to dodge any difficult issues he's created
for himself.

He's talking about late August. Why are you so impatient? I've been
telling you for several days -- let's wait and see who shows up at the
gym, and who doesn't.


He's expecting people to trust him that this is all for real... so why
shouldn't he trust werewolfy with his details?

I've given the answer to this question numerous times.

If Tony truely wants this
(who knows why), he's going to have to trust werewolfy as much as he's
expecting werewolfy to trust him...

I wouldn't trust Werewolfy after the various threatening posts he
continues to make. He made more today. He has made it very clear he
wants to meet Tony in a surprise encounter for an illegal street fight.

The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the yellow-bellied
twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony offered, and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his own
cowardice.


LOL! Perfectly legal? strange way to put it... how about "completely
absurd"?

I think the point was legal vs. illegal -- Tony suggests a legal fight,
Werewolfy suggests an illegal street fight.


Here's the deal:
Tony: "Fight me you weak ***** bitches"
Werewolfy: "OK"
Tony: "You're not here yet! You coward!"
Werewolfy: "Tell me, where and when... I would also like some guarantee of
satisfaction that this event will take place upon my arrival"
Tony: "In a gym... some where... you're still not here, and therefore a
coward"
Werewolfy: "Sorry, need more specifics..."
Tony: "No, you're a coward because you're not already here"
Werewolfy: "Where, when? How will you guarantee you won't back out?
Tony: "coward"
.........rinse, lather, repeat.

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.

Yeah, but that's not an accurate rendition of the arguments.


I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.


You're Tony's worshipper? Poor you...

This person is not Tony's worshipper -- he clearly stated in another
post that he doesn't know which of the two would win the boxing match
-- he's just pointing out the flaws in Werewolfy's claim he can't come
over here unless he has Tony's home address.


I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit is
taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).


Gee, it must really ***** you off that without France, America would still be
a part of the Brittish Empire...

We thanked and honored France for many years -- and then we returned
the favor, twice.
.
User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 28 Jun 2005 11:56:46 PM
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120017274.038562.235990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...




Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe, face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?

Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...
Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".
Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.
I think you may not be quite used to this place yet... it's like an island
between Narnia and Oz. Nothing is as it seems, and reality rarely enters
the equasion... but that doesn't stop the inhabitants from functioning as
'normal'. Normal, being a no-holds-barred battle to get your opinion on top
of the pile.
That's my take at least...

Face it, if Tony seriously wants someone to turn up, he has to get
serious
about organising it... as of now, he's ***** footing around like a pansy,
dancing like mad in an attempt to dodge any difficult issues he's created
for himself.


He's talking about late August. Why are you so impatient? I've been
telling you for several days -- let's wait and see who shows up at the
gym, and who doesn't.

If he's talking about late August, why is he already claiming victory for
werewolfy not showing up?

He's expecting people to trust him that this is all for real... so why
shouldn't he trust werewolfy with his details?


I've given the answer to this question numerous times.

Your answer was, frankly, bogus.
Let's assume for a second that this is not make believe, and that they are
going to meet up for a duke out. How difficult is it going to be for Tony
to attend? Now, how difficult for Werewolfy? There's a massive disconnect
in the required effort for each of our "combatants" to attend. Tony might
only have to cross the street, whereas Werewolfy has to cross an ocean.
I believe in this case, Werewolfy is indeed entitled to some kind of
insurance, because it is unreasonable to expect someone to cross the
Atlantic on the mere possibility that the reason for doing so is valid.
The only way I can see any of this being cleared up, is for Tony to retract
his challenge... his pride will not allow him to do that.

If Tony truely wants this
(who knows why), he's going to have to trust werewolfy as much as he's
expecting werewolfy to trust him...


I wouldn't trust Werewolfy after the various threatening posts he
continues to make. He made more today. He has made it very clear he
wants to meet Tony in a surprise encounter for an illegal street fight.

Why should anyone trust Tony, for that mater? He's a known liar. He's
issued many threats of physical harm over the years (illegal of course).
Why is Tony more trustworthy than Werewolfy?

The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the
yellow-bellied
twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony offered,
and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his
own
cowardice.


LOL! Perfectly legal? strange way to put it... how about "completely
absurd"?


I think the point was legal vs. illegal -- Tony suggests a legal fight,
Werewolfy suggests an illegal street fight.

Here's the deal:
Tony: "Fight me you weak ***** bitches"
Werewolfy: "OK"
Tony: "You're not here yet! You coward!"
Werewolfy: "Tell me, where and when... I would also like some guarantee
of
satisfaction that this event will take place upon my arrival"
Tony: "In a gym... some where... you're still not here, and therefore a
coward"
Werewolfy: "Sorry, need more specifics..."
Tony: "No, you're a coward because you're not already here"
Werewolfy: "Where, when? How will you guarantee you won't back out?
Tony: "coward"
.........rinse, lather, repeat.

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Yeah, but that's not an accurate rendition of the arguments.

You sure? Every post I've seen lately has been Werewolfy requesting some
kind of guarantee, and Tony calling him a coward because he hadn't already
turned up. Then they run around in circles...


I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.


You're Tony's worshipper? Poor you...


This person is not Tony's worshipper -- he clearly stated in another
post that he doesn't know which of the two would win the boxing match
-- he's just pointing out the flaws in Werewolfy's claim he can't come
over here unless he has Tony's home address.

This whole thing is just so rediculous...
Even if Werewolfy were to turn up and win by default, would Tony ever accept
it? No way. He'd just claim that it was a lie. There has to be some way
to guarantee that the event will take place, and for that, there needs to be
some trust established.
Not going to happen.


I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit is
taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).


Gee, it must really ***** you off that without France, America would still
be
a part of the Brittish Empire...


We thanked and honored France for many years -- and then we returned
the favor, twice.

It just shits me that so many American's these days bag France because they
wouldn't support Dubya's invasion.... France wasn't a problem for most of
you guys until they refused to stroke the boner Dubya had for Iraq.
I was taking a stab at him calling France cowards... if they really were
cowards, you'd still be part of the British empire.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 10:30:29 AM
Aiden wrote:

"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120017274.038562.235990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...




Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe, face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?

Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...

So I was right, tommy Boy was having a gay fantasy for the past year.

Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".
Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.

Wrong. It is what certain people here wanted to believe.

I think you may not be quite used to this place yet... it's like an island
between Narnia and Oz. Nothing is as it seems, and reality rarely enters
the equasion... but that doesn't stop the inhabitants from functioning as
'normal'. Normal, being a no-holds-barred battle to get your opinion on top
of the pile.
That's my take at least...

Face it, if Tony seriously wants someone to turn up, he has to get
serious
about organising it... as of now, he's ***** footing around like a pansy,
dancing like mad in an attempt to dodge any difficult issues he's created
for himself.


He's talking about late August. Why are you so impatient? I've been
telling you for several days -- let's wait and see who shows up at the
gym, and who doesn't.

If he's talking about late August, why is he already claiming victory for
werewolfy not showing up?

Uh, because he has run away from the challenge I put forth and is
twisting and turning in a vain attempt to show he's not scared.

He's expecting people to trust him that this is all for real... so why
shouldn't he trust werewolfy with his details?

I've given the answer to this question numerous times.

Your answer was, frankly, bogus.
Let's assume for a second that this is not make believe, and that they are
going to meet up for a duke out. How difficult is it going to be for Tony
to attend? Now, how difficult for Werewolfy? There's a massive disconnect
in the required effort for each of our "combatants" to attend. Tony might
only have to cross the street, whereas Werewolfy has to cross an ocean.

Didn't seem to bother him and his gay friend last year.

I believe in this case, Werewolfy is indeed entitled to some kind of
insurance, because it is unreasonable to expect someone to cross the
Atlantic on the mere possibility that the reason for doing so is valid.

He had no problem saying he was going to do so last year, now when he
knows I'll be here waiting for him, suddenly his legs go limp and he
wants "insurance" by way of my home address?
LOL!!!

The only way I can see any of this being cleared up, is for Tony to retract
his challenge... his pride will not allow him to do that.

LOL!!! Of course that's what you want, they you and your friends can
go on for another year.
Nope, not going to happen, QueerWolf is going to do one of 2 things,
backdown, or come here and get knocked out.
if he doesn't come here as he so boldly bragged he was going to do he
will have chickened out. If he does showmup he's going to get shredded
in the ring.

If Tony truely wants this
(who knows why), he's going to have to trust werewolfy as much as he's
expecting werewolfy to trust him...

I wouldn't trust Werewolfy after the various threatening posts he
continues to make. He made more today. He has made it very clear he
wants to meet Tony in a surprise encounter for an illegal street fight.

Why should anyone trust Tony, for that mater? He's a known liar. He's
issued many threats of physical harm over the years (illegal of course).

Wrong.

The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the
yellow-bellied
twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony offered,
and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his
own
cowardice.


LOL! Perfectly legal? strange way to put it... how about "completely
absurd"?


I think the point was legal vs. illegal -- Tony suggests a legal fight,
Werewolfy suggests an illegal street fight.




Here's the deal:
Tony: "Fight me you weak ***** bitches"
Werewolfy: "OK"
Tony: "You're not here yet! You coward!"
Werewolfy: "Tell me, where and when... I would also like some guarantee
of
satisfaction that this event will take place upon my arrival"
Tony: "In a gym... some where... you're still not here, and therefore a
coward"
Werewolfy: "Sorry, need more specifics..."
Tony: "No, you're a coward because you're not already here"
Werewolfy: "Where, when? How will you guarantee you won't back out?
Tony: "coward"
.........rinse, lather, repeat.

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Yeah, but that's not an accurate rendition of the arguments.

You sure? Every post I've seen lately has been Werewolfy requesting some
kind of guarantee, and Tony calling him a coward because he hadn't already
turned up. Then they run around in circles...

You are a real head case, I never called him a coward for not showing
up, that doesn't come until August, I have been calling him a coward
because he cannot meet my challenge and give me a day when he will be
here.

I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.

You're Tony's worshipper? Poor you...

This person is not Tony's worshipper -- he clearly stated in another
post that he doesn't know which of the two would win the boxing match
-- he's just pointing out the flaws in Werewolfy's claim he can't come
over here unless he has Tony's home address.

This whole thing is just so rediculous...

yeah, yet Tommy Boy kept it going for an entire year with the help of
several others here.
So what does that make them? Eh?

Even if Werewolfy were to turn up and win by default, would Tony ever accept
it? No way. He'd just claim that it was a lie.

Wrong. It's all going to be video taped and posted on a website so
that you can all see you hero being beaten to a pulp. I will have the
cam going outside the gym on the proposed date with that days
newspaper in site to verify who shows up.
I'll tell you exactly what I will do, and then you can watch as
everything I said plays out on the screen.
I will come out and look for an opening, hit him like he's never been
hit before, aim straight into his nose and shatter it (he won't be
able to breath then) his mouth will hang open gasping for air leaving
him vunerable to have his jaw broken.
But before I do that, I will hit him in the stomach and ribs looking
to break what I can, if he doesn't collapse from sheer exhaustion at
this point (top athletes from other sports can't go 1 round of serious
boxing) I will then load up and break his jaw for him.

I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit is
taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).


Gee, it must really ***** you off that without France, America would still
be
a part of the Brittish Empire...


We thanked and honored France for many years -- and then we returned
the favor, twice.

It just shits me that so many American's these days bag France because they
wouldn't support Dubya's invasion.... France wasn't a problem for most of
you guys until they refused to stroke the boner Dubya had for Iraq.

Wrong. the French wouldn't let our Air Force fly over their territory
back in 1986 when we went after Gaddaffi for bombing that airliner
over Scotland.
And thats' just one incident of the French being anti-American.
Tony
.
User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 07:56:20 PM
<TheSilver@Bullet.com> wrote in message
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Aiden wrote:

"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe,
face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a
goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you
kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you
to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only
a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only
a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect
someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?


Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...


So I was right, tommy Boy was having a gay fantasy for the past year.

What the ***** are you talking about? I'm not tw, and I don't talk with tw
outside this group... by what logic of my saying I didn't believe it would
acctually happen, do you reach the conclusion that tw was having a gay
fantasy?
Tony, you chirp on about homosexuals and gays far more than anyone else in
this group... and you know what they say about the squeaky wheel... it's the
one that wants to get greased.
Thus, I will take every mention of gays and homosexuals you make as a
yearning to get your ***** plugged.


Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".


Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.


Wrong. It is what certain people here wanted to believe.

No, the peices fit. It bought a smile to many of your adversaries faces,
and thus you got branded. Deal with it, ya fucking whinging *****. You've
made up many a tale about various people here, and they've all dealt with it
without launching into a rabid meltdown. You have not.

I think you may not be quite used to this place yet... it's like an island
between Narnia and Oz. Nothing is as it seems, and reality rarely enters
the equasion... but that doesn't stop the inhabitants from functioning as
'normal'. Normal, being a no-holds-barred battle to get your opinion on
top
of the pile.


That's my take at least...


Face it, if Tony seriously wants someone to turn up, he has to get
serious
about organising it... as of now, he's ***** footing around like a
pansy,
dancing like mad in an attempt to dodge any difficult issues he's
created
for himself.


He's talking about late August. Why are you so impatient? I've been
telling you for several days -- let's wait and see who shows up at the
gym, and who doesn't.


If he's talking about late August, why is he already claiming victory for
werewolfy not showing up?


Uh, because he has run away from the challenge I put forth and is
twisting and turning in a vain attempt to show he's not scared.

No, he's just not a fucking idiot like you'd hoped. I wouldn't trust you as
far as I could throw you, and I doubt anyone here would.
What guarantee would anyone who took up your challenge have, that you
weren't just setting them up to get arrested? None. For all appearances,
that's what you're trying to do.... pansy's like you are never honourable.
You've already shown you're a dishonourable piece of *****, by trying to get
werewolfy banned from google by casting false aspersions on him. What kind
of message does that send to potential takers of your challenge? That
you're a cowardly, scheming, untrustworthy worm.

He's expecting people to trust him that this is all for real... so why
shouldn't he trust werewolfy with his details?


I've given the answer to this question numerous times.


Your answer was, frankly, bogus.


Let's assume for a second that this is not make believe, and that they are
going to meet up for a duke out. How difficult is it going to be for Tony
to attend? Now, how difficult for Werewolfy? There's a massive
disconnect
in the required effort for each of our "combatants" to attend. Tony might
only have to cross the street, whereas Werewolfy has to cross an ocean.


Didn't seem to bother him and his gay friend last year.

Sqeaky wheel...

I believe in this case, Werewolfy is indeed entitled to some kind of
insurance, because it is unreasonable to expect someone to cross the
Atlantic on the mere possibility that the reason for doing so is valid.


He had no problem saying he was going to do so last year, now when he
knows I'll be here waiting for him, suddenly his legs go limp and he
wants "insurance" by way of my home address?

Face it Tony, you broke your gaze. Be a man and admit it.

LOL!!!

The only way I can see any of this being cleared up, is for Tony to
retract
his challenge... his pride will not allow him to do that.


LOL!!! Of course that's what you want, they you and your friends can
go on for another year.

How would you know? It would be the first time (I think) any one here has
seen you act in a mature fashion. You might even gain some respect. Maybe.

Nope, not going to happen, QueerWolf is going to do one of 2 things,
backdown, or come here and get knocked out.

if he doesn't come here as he so boldly bragged he was going to do he
will have chickened out. If he does showmup he's going to get shredded
in the ring.

Yeah, it's easy to claim victory when your opponent is half a world away...
Victory? In this situation, on usenet? WTF am I saying... it's victory like
winning at a game of soggy sao.

If Tony truely wants this
(who knows why), he's going to have to trust werewolfy as much as he's
expecting werewolfy to trust him...


I wouldn't trust Werewolfy after the various threatening posts he
continues to make. He made more today. He has made it very clear he
wants to meet Tony in a surprise encounter for an illegal street fight.


Why should anyone trust Tony, for that mater? He's a known liar. He's
issued many threats of physical harm over the years (illegal of course).


Wrong.

Oh, so you've never lied to or threatened anyone here? That's bullshite,
and you know it. You'd have had alot more to say than 'wrong', otherwise.
That's your standard reply when you can't refute a point.

The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the
yellow-bellied
twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony
offered,
and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his
own
cowardice.


LOL! Perfectly legal? strange way to put it... how about "completely
absurd"?


I think the point was legal vs. illegal -- Tony suggests a legal fight,
Werewolfy suggests an illegal street fight.




Here's the deal:
Tony: "Fight me you weak ***** bitches"
Werewolfy: "OK"
Tony: "You're not here yet! You coward!"
Werewolfy: "Tell me, where and when... I would also like some
guarantee
of
satisfaction that this event will take place upon my arrival"
Tony: "In a gym... some where... you're still not here, and therefore
a
coward"
Werewolfy: "Sorry, need more specifics..."
Tony: "No, you're a coward because you're not already here"
Werewolfy: "Where, when? How will you guarantee you won't back out?
Tony: "coward"
.........rinse, lather, repeat.

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Yeah, but that's not an accurate rendition of the arguments.


You sure? Every post I've seen lately has been Werewolfy requesting some
kind of guarantee, and Tony calling him a coward because he hadn't already
turned up. Then they run around in circles...


You are a real head case, I never called him a coward for not showing
up, that doesn't come until August, I have been calling him a coward
because he cannot meet my challenge and give me a day when he will be
here.

Your challenge... right... yeah, and I suppose you think that asking
someone to cross the Atlantic, at their own expense, with no guarantees is a
reasonable request? He wants a guarantee, that's all.
Oh, and I'm sure hurt by YOU calling me a head case... PKB all over again.

I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.


You're Tony's worshipper? Poor you...


This person is not Tony's worshipper -- he clearly stated in another
post that he doesn't know which of the two would win the boxing match
-- he's just pointing out the flaws in Werewolfy's claim he can't come
over here unless he has Tony's home address.


This whole thing is just so rediculous...


yeah, yet Tommy Boy kept it going for an entire year with the help of
several others here.

So what does that make them? Eh?

The fact you think he (or anyone else for that matter) was serious, shows
what a baitable chump you are.

Even if Werewolfy were to turn up and win by default, would Tony ever
accept
it? No way. He'd just claim that it was a lie.


Wrong. It's all going to be video taped and posted on a website so
that you can all see you hero being beaten to a pulp. I will have the
cam going outside the gym on the proposed date with that days
newspaper in site to verify who shows up.

I'll tell you exactly what I will do, and then you can watch as
everything I said plays out on the screen.

I will come out and look for an opening, hit him like he's never been
hit before, aim straight into his nose and shatter it (he won't be
able to breath then) his mouth will hang open gasping for air leaving
him vunerable to have his jaw broken.

Oh for sure... it's all so simple, isn't it Tony Balboa! Reads just like a
script... you could make money off that...

But before I do that, I will hit him in the stomach and ribs looking
to break what I can, if he doesn't collapse from sheer exhaustion at
this point (top athletes from other sports can't go 1 round of serious
boxing) I will then load up and break his jaw for him.

Geez, thats a load of bull if ever I've seen it... many footballers over
here (real football) do boxing as training. There's even one who is a
professional boxer (though admittedly, his skills are a little lacking, he
can still last the distance).

I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit
is
taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).


Gee, it must really ***** you off that without France, America would
still
be
a part of the Brittish Empire...


We thanked and honored France for many years -- and then we returned
the favor, twice.


It just shits me that so many American's these days bag France because
they
wouldn't support Dubya's invasion.... France wasn't a problem for most of
you guys until they refused to stroke the boner Dubya had for Iraq.


Wrong. the French wouldn't let our Air Force fly over their territory
back in 1986 when we went after Gaddaffi for bombing that airliner
over Scotland.

And thats' just one incident of the French being anti-American.

Oh, poor America, cry me a river... yeah, that's a great reason to defame
the french in general.
.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 08:10:19 PM
Aidan wrote:
8<

Tony, you chirp on about homosexuals and gays far more than anyone else in
this group... and you know what they say about the squeaky wheel... it's the
one that wants to get greased.

Tony isn't gay in the regular sense, he just feels guilty about his
penchant for anal sex... as I like to remind him, anal sex is asexual.
Yep, caught with his panties down in alt.sex.anal - he's even got some
sphincter related posts in ne.weather. What Tony would like to do to
some tv weather girls shouldn't be mentioned in polite company... so I
won't. ;)
HTH
-A
.
User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 30 Jun 2005 12:34:42 PM
Amy The Obsessed Freak wrote:

Aidan wrote:

8<

Tony, you chirp on about homosexuals and gays far more than anyone else in
this group... and you know what they say about the squeaky wheel... it's the
one that wants to get greased.


Tony isn't gay in the regular sense, he just feels guilty about his
penchant for anal sex... as I like to remind him, anal sex is asexual.

Yep, caught with his panties down in alt.sex.anal - he's even got some
sphincter related posts in ne.weather. What Tony would like to do to
some tv weather girls shouldn't be mentioned in polite company... so I
won't. ;)

HTH

-A

Hey Freak Lady,
Why don't you try getting out sometime? Ever been away from your PC
(while awake) for more than a 20 min coffee/tea break?
So I admire women's butts? Big deal.
Jealous that you don;t have one to admire?
Hubby neglecting you again?
Try standing up once in a while instead of sitting for 17hrs per day
in front of your PC and maybe your ***** won't be so flat. ;-)
Later, Freak.
Tony
.


User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 30 Jun 2005 12:30:58 PM
Aiden wrote:

<TheSilver@Bullet.com> wrote in message
news:1120059031.5c13a450b2466de05bac736d01e90a48@teranews...

Aiden wrote:

"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe,
face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a
goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you
kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you
to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only
a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only
a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect
someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?

Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...

So I was right, tommy Boy was having a gay fantasy for the past year.

What the ***** are you talking about? I'm not tw, and I don't talk with tw
outside this group... by what logic of my saying I didn't believe it would
acctually happen, do you reach the conclusion that tw was having a gay
fantasy?

Uh, if you are right and he had no intention of ever coming over here,
then the past year of TW's posts have been nothing but a gay fantasy
of his as I have said alll along. Got it?

Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".
Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.

Wrong. It is what certain people here wanted to believe.

No, the peices fit. It bought a smile to many of your adversaries faces,

Because they know that in the real world they are left lacking. UseNet
is the only place where they can even begin to dream of standing up to
me in any manner. Got it?
Now go send QueerWolf some cash to get over here or STFU. Got it?
Tony
.
User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 30 Jun 2005 06:01:10 PM
wrote:

Aiden wrote:


<

> wrote in message
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Aiden wrote:


"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
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In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe,
face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a
goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you
kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you
to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only
a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only
a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect
someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?



Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...



So I was right, tommy Boy was having a gay fantasy for the past year.



What the ***** are you talking about? I'm not tw, and I don't talk with tw
outside this group... by what logic of my saying I didn't believe it would
acctually happen, do you reach the conclusion that tw was having a gay
fantasy?



Uh, if you are right and he had no intention of ever coming over here,
then the past year of TW's posts have been nothing but a gay fantasy
of his as I have said alll along. Got it?

Sqeaky wheel, Tony... The fact you think everyone was deadly serious
about this shows what a baitable chump you are.

Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".



Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.



Wrong. It is what certain people here wanted to believe.



No, the peices fit. It bought a smile to many of your adversaries faces,



Because they know that in the real world they are left lacking. UseNet
is the only place where they can even begin to dream of standing up to
me in any manner. Got it?

Yeah Tony.. you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel special.

Now go send QueerWolf some cash to get over here or STFU. Got it?

How about you send me some money, and I'll send you back some nice
cookies? Then you can pour yourself a glass of milk, and go to bed
without crying. Fucking whiner
.
User: ""

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 01 Jul 2005 12:03:54 PM
Aiden wrote:

TheSilver@Bullet.com wrote:

Aiden wrote:


<TheSilver@Bullet.com> wrote in message
news:1120059031.5c13a450b2466de05bac736d01e90a48@teranews...

Aiden wrote:


"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe,
face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a
goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you
kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you
to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only
a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only
a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect
someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?



Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...



So I was right, tommy Boy was having a gay fantasy for the past year.



What the ***** are you talking about? I'm not tw, and I don't talk with tw
outside this group... by what logic of my saying I didn't believe it would
acctually happen, do you reach the conclusion that tw was having a gay
fantasy?

Uh, if you are right and he had no intention of ever coming over here,
then the past year of TW's posts have been nothing but a gay fantasy
of his as I have said alll along. Got it?

Sqeaky wheel, Tony... The fact you think everyone was deadly serious
about this shows what a baitable chump you are.

Yeah, whatever, you'd do anything to cover for your cowardly friends.
So why is your old hero still babbling about coming here? Maybe you
should adjust his medications?

Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".


Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.

Wrong. It is what certain people here wanted to believe.

No, the peices fit. It bought a smile to many of your adversaries faces,

Because they know that in the real world they are left lacking. UseNet
is the only place where they can even begin to dream of standing up to
me in any manner. Got it?

Yeah Tony.. you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel special.

I can say it and back it up because no one else here has ever competed
with world class fighters and maintained that level of function.

Now go send QueerWolf some cash to get over here or STFU. Got it?

How about you send me some money, and I'll send you back some nice
cookies? Then you can pour yourself a glass of milk, and go to bed
without crying. Fucking whiner

Whiner? No, Fool, the whining is on your side, first all you did for
a year was whine about your hero, now you're saying your hero was a
fraud all along .
So tell me, why did you and your friends here choose to hide behind a
60 yr old man?
How old are you? Why did you hide behind and old man and try to goad
him into getting hurt?
Tony
.





User: "sirlurksalot"

Title: Re: I beg this group to....... 29 Jun 2005 03:03:25 AM
In article <newscache$io1uii$n46$1@titan.linknet.com.au>, "Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com> wrote:

"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120017274.038562.235990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...




Aidan wrote:

"sirlurksalot" <lurker@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42c1e74a$0$14727$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...

In article <1119999266.790316.274130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote:

Is that where you wish to take this, *****?


The wise hunter is cold, calm and chooses his place with care.

Werewolfy


Translation: The coward is afraid to square off against his foe, face
to
face, on equal footing.

Totally pathetic. Why not just shoot him in the back, or send a goon
squad
to do your dirty work, then come here and tell everyone how you kicked
his
*****? Asking for his address as a "conditional requirement" for you to
show up
proves your cowardice. Only a moron would think otherwise, and only a
moron
would give his address to someone on usenet. At the same time, only a
cowardly moron would demand a home address as a condition for meeting
face
to face.


And only a fucking moron, devoid of any perspective, would expect someone
to
rock up from the other side of the pond without any insurance or
certainty
that the reason they're traveling is a valid one.


Then what was all this garbage I've been reading here for 11 months
that Werewolfy was already on his way over here when Tony went to
Aruba??? If he was so ready to come over here then, what's holding him
up now?


Firstly, I don't beleive for a second any of it was going to take place...

Yet you've willingly believed and parroted everyone else who said Tony ran off
to Aruba. Why do you all so willingly state that as fact, when it is no more
of a proven fact than this episode taking place either? Because you and your
group shouted it from the rooftops for months on end? I knew it wasn't going
to take place the minute wolfie asked for an address, a ridiculous request
that he knew Tony would never fulfill, nor would any sane person.


Secondly, surely you can recognise that this is all akin to a staring
contest... first to break their gaze, loses. Tony broke his gaze, and
therefore is percieved to have "run away".

It's amusing how you think Tony broke his gaze, simply because he refuses to
give his home address to someone on usenet. At best, it's a draw, but like
the good little soldier you are- "Tony broke his gaze first!" Hilarious!
Tony issued a challenge to meet all takers at a gym. There was no discussion
about giving his address out to every asswipe on usenet that asked for it. If
Wolfie declined to accept the invite as is, then he should have kept his yap
shut about it altogether. Instead, he uses the caveat of "I want your
address..." knowing full well it's not going to happen, then like the good
little lemming soldiers some of you are, you insist "Tony broke his gaze first
because he won't give his address to someone who has repeatedly told him he'd
be more than happy to catch him unaware if it comes down to it, or send his
freinds to pay him a 'visit.'" Pathetic.


Did he run away? Who knows... it made a good story, so it stuck.

Yeah, who cares about the truth? Let's just keep taunting the guy even though
we don't really know if he ran away or not! Let's keep calling him a chicken!
Then, when he calls our bluff, let's insist that he's being a chicken again
because he won't give out his home address! Life is good!
Again, pathetic.


I think you may not be quite used to this place yet... it's like an island
between Narnia and Oz. Nothing is as it seems, and reality rarely enters
the equasion... but that doesn't stop the inhabitants from functioning as
'normal'. Normal, being a no-holds-barred battle to get your opinion on top
of the pile.

That's my take at least...

Yes, apparently reality does indeed rarely enter the picture here, seeing as
how you think it's a reasonable request to give your home address to an
adversary on usenet. Reality indeed. Check it out sometime...


Face it, if Tony seriously wants someone to turn up, he has to get
serious
about organising it... as of now, he's ***** footing around like a pansy,
dancing like mad in an attempt to dodge any difficult issues he's created
for himself.

What difficult issues? You idiots called him a chickenshit for 11 months, he
called your bluff, finally, and now it is your side that is tap dancing
around the issue. I agree that there are several ways to organize it, but
giving out a home address isn't one of them, and your hero knows this, which
is why he insists on having his home address, a condition he knows won't be
met, and a gambit that you and others are all too willing to see through the
perspective of your wolfie colored glasses.


He's talking about late August. Why are you so impatient? I've been
telling you for several days -- let's wait and see who shows up at the
gym, and who doesn't.


If he's talking about late August, why is he already claiming victory for
werewolfy not showing up?

He's not claiming victory for Wolfie not showing up. He's claiming victory
for Wolfie insisting on having his home address before he'll agree to come
over to fight, which was NEVER a parameter of the original challenge. If
Wolfie was telling the truth before about Tony running away from him, then
Wolfie must have already had his address, right? Or was wolfie originally
lying about that, which would seem to be another matter that you all are
unwilling to face up to. He's claiming victory because Wolfie opened up his
yap and said he'd be happy to fight him, but then changed parameters, wanting
his home address, something that will not happen. Thus, Wolfie, and his group
claim "victory" when it is wolfie placing an undue request on Tony. As
previously stated, if Wolfie didn't want to risk wasting his time without
having an address, then he should have just said that in the first place.
He should have said: "Sure, I'll fight you, but I want your home address.
If not, I'm not going to waste my time...."
Instead, he (and his group) says "Sure, I'll fight you, but I want your home
address, and your failure to agree to provide said home address is proof that
you're afraid of me..."
LMAO.


He's expecting people to trust him that this is all for real... so why
shouldn't he trust werewolfy with his details?


I've given the answer to this question numerous times.


Your answer was, frankly, bogus.

His answer was not "bogus." His answer was the same as my answer, which is
that it's asinine to expect a usenet adversary to give out his home address.
I can't believe you fail to understand this.


Let's assume for a second that this is not make believe, and that they are
going to meet up for a duke out. How difficult is it going to be for Tony
to attend? Now, how difficult for Werewolfy?

How difficult was it for Wolfie a year ago when Tony supposedly ran away?
OOOps! The degree of difficulty is not Tony's problem. Wolfie and his group
(mainly his group, which i find even more amusing) taunted Tony for months
about being a chicken. Bluff called, you now want to get into the
difficulties of crossing the ocean, while you seemed to have no difficulty
believing that Wolfie was on his way at a moments notice a year ago.
Why is it such a concern now, but wasn't then? I'll tell you why: Because
Tony called the bluff, and now it's others who are tapdancing around reality.

There's a massive disconnect
in the required effort for each of our "combatants" to attend. Tony might
only have to cross the street, whereas Werewolfy has to cross an ocean.

Like I said, it wasn't an issue a year ago when you all believed he chased
Tony off to Aruba, why is it an issue now?


I believe in this case, Werewolfy is indeed entitled to some kind of
insurance, because it is unreasonable to expect someone to cross the
Atlantic on the mere possibility that the reason for doing so is valid.

In principle, I agree with this, but again, the Atlantic didn't seem to be an
issue the last time around, and even though I agree that Wolfie should have
some reasonable assurance that he wouldn't be walking into an empty gym, there
has to be a better way to confirm it other than getting Tony's home address.
I'm sorry, but that's just unreasonable, no matter how far Wolfie has to flap
his wings to get here. One more time, distance didn't seem to be a problem
for Wolfie last time, right? Why is it now? Because he already wasted one
trip over here? If true, then why would he come the first time without
knowing Tony's address? It just doesn't make sense. My suggestion is for
Tony to post the number of the gym here, in this NG. He can even give
information to have the gym verify if they know him or not when wolfie calls.
I'm not saying this is all that needs to be done to entrust that Wolfie
doesn't have a wasted journey, but it's a start, and like Steven has said,
there's plenty of time to work this all out to the satisfaction of both
parties without Tony's address being one of the conditions that needs to be
met. It's just not reasonable, or safe, by any measure. As Steven has
already stated, Tony has no assurance that he won't be stalked unaware if he
gives out his address. His refusal to do so is hardly the admission of
cowardice you're all claiming it to be.


The only way I can see any of this being cleared up, is for Tony to retract
his challenge... his pride will not allow him to do that.

LMAO! How about all of you retract your comments from the last 12 months
about Tony running off to Aruba? Your pride won't allow you to do that. Why
is it up to him to retract his challenge? Because he doesn't want to give
out his address? That's rich.


If Tony truely wants this
(who knows why), he's going to have to trust werewolfy as much as he's
expecting werewolfy to trust him...

"Who knows why?" I'll tell you why. He got tired of being called a chicken
for a year, and called your bluffs. That's why. Complicated, eh?
Why would he trust a guy that has already hinted that he wants his address so
he can "be the wise, cold, patient hunter" or whatever other BS he spewed on
another thread. Wolfie is doing two things that you fail to recognize, or
maybe you do recognize it, but act like you don't.
1) He's demanding Tony's home address, knowing that Tony won't give it to him
2) He's also dropping hints that if he gets his home address, then he'll
choose to confront him at a time of his choosing, which will tend to make Tony
even more reluctant to give him his home address, wouldn't you agree?
Now, put 1 and 2 together, if you can, and see what answer you come up with.
The answer I come up with is that while demanding an address, he's ALSO
re-enforcing Tony's reasons NOT to give him the address, because he really has
no intention of coming here in the first place, and dropping hints that he'll
stalk him only guarantees that Tony won't give him his address even further,
which is when the Wolfiie "gang" comes in, demanding that Tony give up his
address or he's a coward. I see the game, and it's oh so obvious to anyone
that's paying attention.


I wouldn't trust Werewolfy after the various threatening posts he
continues to make. He made more today. He has made it very clear he
wants to meet Tony in a surprise encounter for an illegal street fight.


Why should anyone trust Tony, for that mater? He's a known liar. He's
issued many threats of physical harm over the years (illegal of course).

What does that have to do with the asinine proposition that he give up his
address to someone who wants to step outside the parameters of a legal boxing
match and instead confront him at a time of his own choosing, on the street?
That you can't see the absurdity of your own(and wolfie's) argument really
makes me question why I'm wasting my time on this to begin with. It's
extremely disingenuous from an arguement standpoint. Steve is absolutely
right, but instead of admitting it, you'd rather squawk about harsh words Tony
may have used on usenet. Did Tony have the addresses of the people he
threatened when he threatened them? See the difference?
At least Tony's challenge was to fight in a legal venue, both fighters having
the same chance, face to face. Your buddy wants Tony to "trust" him by giving
out his address, after he's made threats to stalk him.
Sheesh, c'mon, lets get a little reality in here, despite the present lack of
it.


Why is Tony more trustworthy than Werewolfy?

Who said he was? Tony issued a challenge and wolfie refused to accept it as
is, instead, demanding his home address while at the same time making veiled
threats to catch him unaware at his home address. See? Understand?
Comprende? If Wolfie had no intention of flying over here without Tony's home
address, then he should have just left well enough alone.
Wolfie's entire "argument" seems to be the equivelent of two boxers agreeing
to a fight, but one boxer saying "I want to wear brass knuckles under my
gloves but you can't, and if you don't agree to that, then I win and you're a
coward!"


The jig is up wierdwolf. The wise hunter? More like the
yellow-bellied
twit
that can't step up to the perfectly legal challenge that Tony offered,
and
instead chooses to throw sand up in the air to cloud the issue of his
own
cowardice.


LOL! Perfectly legal? strange way to put it... how about "completely
absurd"?


I think the point was legal vs. illegal -- Tony suggests a legal fight,
Werewolfy suggests an illegal street fight.




Here's the deal:
Tony: "Fight me you weak ***** bitches"
Werewolfy: "OK"
Tony: "You're not here yet! You coward!"
Werewolfy: "Tell me, where and when... I would also like some guarantee
of
satisfaction that this event will take place upon my arrival"
Tony: "In a gym... some where... you're still not here, and therefore a
coward"
Werewolfy: "Sorry, need more specifics..."
Tony: "No, you're a coward because you're not already here"
Werewolfy: "Where, when? How will you guarantee you won't back out?
Tony: "coward"
.........rinse, lather, repeat.

I remember hearing more mature arguments when I was in year 3.


Yeah, but that's not an accurate rendition of the arguments.


You sure? Every post I've seen lately has been Werewolfy requesting some
kind of guarantee, and Tony calling him a coward because he hadn't already
turned up. Then they run around in circles...

Wrong. He's not only requesting the "guarantee" of his home address, but also
making threats to go there at a time of his choosing, thus rendering the
request for a home address even more ridiculous, and more unlikely to happen,
which in my view, shows Wolfie's true colors. It's not just the request for a
home address (which in and of itself is ridiculous) but also the implied
threats he makes about having such information. I fully agree that Wolfie, if
deciding to follow through with this, has the right to demand some kind of
proof that Tony will be there, but requesting a home address is out of line
and speaks more toward wolfie's mindset than Tony's.



I'm sure even your worshippers see it and are shamed and
humiliated by it, though they'd never admit such a horrible truth.


You're Tony's worshipper? Poor you...


This person is not Tony's worshipper -- he clearly stated in another
post that he doesn't know which of the two would win the boxing match
-- he's just pointing out the flaws in Werewolfy's claim he can't come
over here unless he has Tony's home address.


This whole thing is just so rediculous...

Yeah, and I used to like coming here to read about Nostradamus and other
prophecies too. I used to like coming here to read the quatrains in French,
and read everyone's opinions on what they meant, and how and if they related
to current events. Not that I believed it much, but it was interesting and
fun, and was what this NG used to be about. Too bad it's not like that any
more. All I know is that when I was lurking here 2 or 3 years ago, Tony was
much more into talking about the stated subject matter of this NG than
fighting with people.
If he's a monster now, he's a monster of your own creating. Blame yourselves.
What's ridiculous is what the idiots here have turned this NG into. It has
NOTHING to do with Nostradamus anymore, or prophecy. It's just a big liberal
circle jerk of America bashers and their apologists. WTG, idiots. You ruined
a decent NG. And don't blame Tony either. I KNOW what he USED to talk about
here, because I saw it, before the lefty invasion took place. You're right,
it is ridiculous. Reading blathering post after blathering post for a YEAR
about how a guy ran off to Aruba because he was scared of someone who now
claims to NOT have his address, IS ridiculous.


Even if Werewolfy were to turn up and win by default, would Tony ever accept
it? No way. He'd just claim that it was a lie. There has to be some way
to guarantee that the event will take place, and for that, there needs to be
some trust established.

Not going to happen.

I agree that some type of intermediary or guarantee has to be there, but that
goes for both parties. It certainly doesn't mean that one party should know
where the other party lives. That's idiotic, unreasonable, and it appears to
be a gambit to insure that no fight takes place, while at the same time
claiming "victory."



I have a suggestion: Move away from France. Their cowardly spirit is
taking
possession of you (if you weren't a coward in the first place).


Gee, it must really ***** you off that without France, America would still
be
a part of the Brittish Empire...


We thanked and honored France for many years -- and then we returned
the favor, twice.


It just shits me that so many American's these days bag France because they
wouldn't support Dubya's invasion.... France wasn't a problem for most of
you guys until they refused to stroke the boner Dubya had for Iraq.

I was taking a stab at him calling France cowards... if they really were
cowards, you'd still be part of the British empire.

Yeah, and it shits us that France was more concerned about making profits in
Iraq and manipulating the oil for food program than they were about standing
together with an "ally" against a guy that was a known mass murderer, who had
violated UN sanction for the previous 12 years, the same UN that the French
seem to be so in awe of when it suits their purposes. With allies like them,
who needs enemies? BTW, I've been bagging France since the days of their
refusal to allow US Jets to fly over their airspace on the way to Libya. With
France, it's more about their ego and making themselves feel "relevant" than
it is anything of any substantive matter, except perhaps greed. And hey, I
never said that the French were cowards 225 or so years ago. I do know one
thing, French or no French, the colinists would have fought their enemy, not
ran away from them. They may have lost, but not without a fight.
The 20th century French, as a fighting force, are another matter though,
wouldn't you agree? 20th century history tells me so. What the hell happened
to t