III.53
Quand le plus grand emportera le pris
De Nuremberg d'Auspurg, & ceux de Basle
Par Aggripine chef Francqfort repris
Transverseront par Flamans jusques en Gale.
Line 2 - "d'Augsburg"
Line 3 - "par Cologne [Lat: Colonia Agrippina]"
Line 4 - "Gaule"
Verse translation
When he who's greatest shall the victory gain
Over Nuremberg, Augsburg, Basle and all,
Shall Frankfurt through Cologne's lord be re ta'en:
Via Flemish lands they'll stretch as far as Gaul.
The election at Frankfurt of Charles V as Holy Roman Emperor in 1519,
in preference to France's Francois I, as a result of which the Empire
would now stretch right across the Low Countries as far as Artois in
France. In 1547 Charles would finally secure a permanent majority for
the Hapsburgs among the Catholic Electors by restoring a Catholic
bishop in Cologne after a brief Protestant interlude.
Merlin the Magician
"As it once was so shall it be again, world without end"
[TEOTW: 27, Shelter from the Storm, 346]
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| Title: Re: III.53 - The down to earth version |
29 Mar 2006 03:12:49 PM |
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Looks like a neat summation of WWI
But who is looking backward?
LB
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: III.53 - The down to earth version |
29 Mar 2006 04:11:26 PM |
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wrote:
Looks like a neat summation of WWI
But who is looking backward?
LB
To be honest, from where I'm standing, I hardly see this as a "neat
summation of WWI". For a start, Basle is in Switzerland and the Swiss
remained neutral throughout. Also, none of the places mentioned were
won as a prize (i.e. the result of a contest or competion).
Merlin
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| User: "Claude Latremouille" |
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| Title: Re: III.53 - The down to earth version |
29 Mar 2006 06:28:39 PM |
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On 29 Mar 2006 14:11:26 -0800, "merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk"
<merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> wrote about what
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leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Looks like a neat summation of WWI
But who is looking backward?
LB
To be honest, from where I'm standing, I hardly see this as a "neat
summation of WWI". For a start, Basle is in Switzerland and the Swiss
remained neutral throughout. Also, none of the places mentioned were
won as a prize (i.e. the result of a contest or competion).
Merlin
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Can't expect the Aussie Moron to get it, especially when his
Leoni and LeVert don't get it either.
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---------------- C E N T V R I E___T I E R C E. --------------
---------------------- (édition de 1555) ---------------------
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---- 53 - Quand le plus grand emportera le pris --------------
--------- De Nuremberg d'Auspurg,& ceux de Basle -------------
--------- Par Aggripine chef Francqfort repris ---------------
--------- Transuerseront par Flamans iusques en Gale. --------
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As usual, line 4 is the kicker, the tell-all. Question: Who did
cross through Belgium to reach France? Hitler's troops, in 1940.
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What about the first three lines? Well, there is an enumeration
of German-speaking locations, pointing to the identity of those
who cross to France through Belgium. When does this happen? After
the Berlin Olympics (where the greatest athletes win their
prizes), after the Nuremberg rallies of the Nazis.
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What about the style of this poem? Meaningful gobbledygook, I
call it. It is sufficiently obscure to allow many different
interpretations, each and every word can be given a meaning, but
the entire thing makes no logical, grammatical, or historical
sense (as you pointed out with respect to Basle). The mark of an
encyphered text. And to show that he is referring to Nazi
Germany, Nostradamus will use German words in his decyphered
text:
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--------- Quand la Germanie s'appreste à inuader -------------
--------- l'Europe et la Russie, ceux de Nuremberg, ----------
--------- par grande propagande et cris (« Führer ! ----------
--------- Führer ! »), auront en l'An Quarante les SS à Paris.
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Don't you like it?
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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| Title: Re: III.53 - The down to earth version |
30 Mar 2006 10:24:03 AM |
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Claude Latremouille wrote:
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It is sufficiently obscure to allow many different
interpretations, each and every word can be given a meaning, but
the entire thing makes no logical, grammatical, or historical
sense (as you pointed out with respect to Basle).
Ummm.. I only pointed out Basle in respect to Leigh's WWI
interpretation.
The verse however, does make for perfect historical sense. Re: The
election at Frankfurt of Charles V as Holy Roman Emperor in 1519, in
preference to France's Francois I.
The prize?!
*The Imperial free cities of Nuremberg, Augsberg and Basle.*
Merlin
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30 Mar 2006 05:30:59 AM |
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Claude Latremouille wrote:
On 29 Mar 2006 14:11:26 -0800, "merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk"
<merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> wrote about what
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leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Looks like a neat summation of WWI
But who is looking backward?
LB
To be honest, from where I'm standing, I hardly see this as a "neat
summation of WWI". For a start, Basle is in Switzerland and the Swiss
remained neutral throughout. Also, none of the places mentioned were
won as a prize (i.e. the result of a contest or competion).
Merlin
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Can't expect the Aussie Moron to get it, especially when his
Leoni and LeVert don't get it either.
Fortunately your opinion as you have to beat the bar, in their regard
at least they approach the subject with some Objectivity and apply
their minds to the message "as it is," not as you'd like it to be.
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---------------- C E N T V R I E___T I E R C E. --------------
---------------------- (=E9dition de 1555) ---------------------
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---- 53 - Quand le plus grand emportera le pris --------------
--------- De Nuremberg d'Auspurg,& ceux de Basle -------------
--------- Par Aggripine chef Francqfort repris ---------------
--------- Transuerseront par Flamans iusques en Gale. --------
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As usual, line 4 is the kicker, the tell-all. Question: Who did
cross through Belgium to reach France? Hitler's troops, in 1940.
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What about the first three lines? Well, there is an enumeration
of German-speaking locations, pointing to the identity of those
who cross to France through Belgium. When does this happen? After
the Berlin Olympics (where the greatest athletes win their
prizes), after the Nuremberg rallies of the Nazis.
Maybe you forgot The Germans advanced through Belgium in WWI that is
why the Maginot line was constructed.
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What about the style of this poem? Meaningful gobbledygook, I
call it. It is sufficiently obscure to allow many different
interpretations, each and every word can be given a meaning, but
the entire thing makes no logical, grammatical, or historical
sense (as you pointed out with respect to Basle).
Maybe it has not happened yet but in your Monorail view it centers on
Paris and just one misguided missile from a distance too great to a
target logistically impossible to even break national boundaries never
mind credibility!
The mark of an
encyphered text. And to show that he is referring to Nazi
Germany, Nostradamus will use German words in his decyphered
text:
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--------- Quand la Germanie s'appreste =E0 inuader -------------
--------- l'Europe et la Russie, ceux de Nuremberg, ----------
--------- par grande propagande et cris (=AB F=FChrer ! ----------
--------- F=FChrer ! =BB), auront en l'An Quarante les SS =E0 Paris.
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Don't you like it?
Rather Flat actually and far too swarmy!
The acronyms are in Latin OK
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Have a nice day, folks!
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You make ours knowing there is an obsessive with a comprehension
deficit, your uncle clean the Elgin Marbles?
Claude Latr=E9mouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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