"Adjvdikator" wrote;
Since I've been posting and reading on these news-worthy
usenet newsgroups, it seems that most--not all--but most
replies originating from Canada tend to be Anti-Xian and
Anti-American. They've already legalized homosexual "mar-
riage" (the biblical abomination of desolation), and are
viciously speaking ill of patriotic Republican-Americans
in support of al-Queda, Taliban, Saddam, France, and all
other sworn enemies of the United States. Frankly, these
AntiXian schmucks can stick it where the sun don't shine!
I truly hope I can take your attack personally, Daniel, so as to
not feel presumptuous in responding, and sticking up for your
'perceived enemies'. I'm a Canadian myself, and despite how you
*think* I feel about America, or Americans judging by the tone
and content of my own posts (if you were indeed reading them, and
counting them among your 'examples'), I happen to still harbor a
few good opinions and sentiments towards both, albeit to a lesser
degree to that which is opposite. But I am anything but a
vehement Anti-American, hating all America, and all things
American. What I am, I would like to think anyhow, is a pragmatic
realist.
My intent, believe it or not, is not to stir up the current wave
of Anti-Americanism sweeping the globe for its *own* sake, as if
out of some deepseated blind hatred. I assure you, and others
reading this, that it is not. My intent is to point out certain
facts about your nation and its people that I find not just
distasteful or disturbing, but dangerous, but only because those
'current' or 'modern' traits (as opposed to 'traditional', or
somehow 'inbred') are impinging upon the rest of the world, my
own nation included, to such a degree as to place us in peril,
one that is needless, self-serving, hypocritical, bullying and
based upon nothing but deception, greed, stupidity, ignorance,
violent-mindedness, and hate. In a word, *evil*.
There is *much* about America that I admire as well. Your
enduring support of Israel since the time of its inception is
truly awesome, and God-inspired (and no, I'm not Jewish-- I'm
Scots-Irish). Without your nations' aid, Israel would have
succumbed to attacks from within and without a long, long time
ago. Your traditional traditions' concerning raw democracy, fair
play, free speech, standing up for the 'little guy' whether
individual or group, American or otherwise, is, or at least *was*
truly unique among nations. E Pluribus Unum. These are only a
'few' of the many examples I could give.
As for Americans themselves, I can't say that I've met many (but
being a border-hugging Canadian living near Vancouver, I can't be
too sure what their citizenship was), but I have met an
*inordinate* number from that known group that astounded me with
their kindness, gentleness and graciousness. Equally so, their
apparent ignorance of the world at large (and Canada
specifically). But for the most part, those who would trek north
of the 49th Parallel are awesome people, and if they have any
foibles, they are benign at worst. As for those Americans who
stay behind, I'll let the average American reader judge their own
average neighbor, as I've never met them personally. But of those
that I have met personally, I can only wish that my own
countrymen could exhibit all those characteristics, along with
the typical American boldness and brashness, outspokenness, and
sheer guts.
If Canadians could only capture the very best as that exemplified
by our neighbours to the south, we too might be a great nation.
As it is, we have become *now* a nation of spineless, meek,
self-serving wimps, by and large. At one point we too deserved to
be respected and admired for the people who we *once* were. Those
days are now gone. But no matter how much we've degraded
ourselves, we are ultimately benign, irrelevant and truly worthy
to be dismissed by the rest of the world as a collective people
and nation. The very fact alone that we have let the Americans
basically take over protecting us from the rest of this dangerous
world in terms of defense, that without the USA, that such a
nation as the Netherlands could ostensibly take us over in a
fortnight makes me truly ashamed to say to others that I am
Canadian, by itself.
But, as I said, we're benign and harmless to the rest of the
world. We mean absolutely nothing in the Global Scheme of Things,
not anymore at least. America, on the other hand, has become the
sole SuperPower of the world. That it became so because of its
being founded upon those original Christian ideals, I personally
would not doubt whatsoever.
Your great nation, the greatest economic and military power ever
known in human history (and has been at least since the late 19th
Century) was conceived and born in a cauldron of foreign
oppression, both perpetrated economically and militarily. Thanks
largely due to the histrionics of a diseased and self-deluded
King George III, you managed to throw off that yoke quite
brilliantly, eloquently and effectively. And you gathered
yourselves together, and pledged to build a nation built upon
basic Christian ideals, loosely translated by the 'pursuit of
life, liberty, and happiness' as defined within the text of your
very Constitution.
At *that* time, you had the *true spirit*, truly. But as you grew
as a nation, advancing both economically and militarily, you came
to a certain point where you stopped being satisfied with what
you were doing within your own borders, and improving the lot of
your own fellow man with your own over-abundant resource base,
and started looking beyond them, to other nations. By the mid to
late 1800's, you began to shed off the idea that every nation has
its own inherent right to decide its own destiny, and began to
proclaim a brand new 'Manifest Destiny' philosophy begun during
the Monroe Administration, a doctrine that embraced the idea that
the great burgeoning nation of America had a God-given right to
enforce its own ideals upon other nations. "Don't Tread on Me"
quickly turned into "Might makes Right", somehow, somewhere along
the way. "Give me liberty or give me death", by "54' 40 or
fight!". America managed to steal almost half of the British
Columbian coastline during the Yukon Gold Rush, and thanks to the
Quisling gutless Brits, gave it to them with no argument
whatsoever. Just a case in point, there's been worse examples of
American travesties before or since that time.
America was now the official 'Big kid on campus', and God help
anybody who got in her (Lady Liberty's) way. You got into various
'provoked' wars with various nations, and came out owning various
territories around the globe, such as the Phillippines, Cuba,
wherever the hell you felt like going, in essence. You came, you
intentionally picked a fight where no quarrel had been, found
grounds to attack, and conquered.
World Wars One and Two come along, and you're suddenly
'isolationist'. Then later, much later, for one reason or another
you do get personally physically involved, and you 'help' kick
***** so that Europe remains European, and not just German-occupied
territory. Hats off to America, though; had you not been there,
this world would look very Japanese and Soviet dominated, in my
opinion. But you tend to think you did it all that alone, by
yourselves, which does nothing but dishonour to those of other
nations who fell before you in much greater numbers.
No matter. You did good at that stage of history notwithstanding,
and the entire free world indeed owed you a debt of gratitude for
your efforts and sacrifice, and afterwards you made damned sure
that they never forgot how you won those wars by yourselves, and
how much they owed you *that* debt as well. More historical
revisionism to go along with that part of prior history of
barefaced empirical tyranny quite conveniently forgotten by you,
the conquerors of the free world, who were now writing the free
world's history books.
And before leaving that last big honest war, I must point out
that you ended it by dropping not one, but two nukes on civilian
population centres just to see the effects on human beings
instead of doing a demonstration of your suddenly acquired new
weaponry, such as calling up Mr. Tojo at midnight Tokyo time, and
saying 'Hey Tojo, ring up your beloved deity Hirohito, and come
outside and look over Tokyo Harbour!', followed by an awesome yet
harmless 25,000 foot height firework they'd never forget. I might
be naive in some respects in that regard, I admit, but at least
my imagination doesn't involve wondering whether a uranium bomb
has as much long term effects on people at the 5,000 foot range
as does one made out of plutonium, etc.
After WWII, thanks to FDR (Churchill probably having no real say
in the matter) selling out Eastern Europe to the USSR in the
Yalta agreement (heck, this was Europe's war in the first place,
let them suffer the aftermath), the world was primed to begin
another round of the 'same old', but this time polarized into two
main camps, the 'free world' headed by the US, and the Communist
world, headed by the USSR, and soon partnered (of sorts) by
China. And you all went off, continuing your globalized version
of one big Risk game, gobbling up countries one by one. But
whereas the Soviets were usually much more blunt about how they
went about the game, the Americans were no less insidious, if
only due to the fact that you had the money, and could buy
whatever, and whomever you pleased to prop up or overthrow
whomever you pleased throughout that 'sphere' of the globe not
yet coloured by 'Red' or 'Yellow'. And so you sowed the seeds of
their own eventual destruction, at the hands of their outraged
citizenry, sick of the brutality, tortures, rapes and murders at
the hands of those your nation propped up, vicariously through
economic, military and other 'intelligent' means.
And when those nations, such as Cuba for example, began to defend
themselves against the one nation responsible for their misery
and current status, you climbed up on your big white horse and
screamed blue bloody murder. How dare they have a few nukes on
their island to defend themselves against us, who have 10,000 and
can thus incinerate them two billion times over!
Whatever the situation, you always made sure that history would
gloss over the nasty bits that your country played, while
trumpeting the good ones. And dammit, it worked just dandy. As a
Canadian schoolkid, we were fed the same doggerel as history as
as you were, albeit to a slightly lesser degree.
And your cultural influence, via mainly television, took over the
rest of the job where our textbooks and teachers left off. It
wasn't until your own citizenry took up arms during Vietnam that
all of us in the free world *also* scratched our collective
little heads and said, 'Hmmmm...'. Perhaps President Dwight (Ike)
Eisenhower's farewell address to the nation, warning his fellow
Americans of the vast and insidious 'military-industrial complex'
that *actually* pulled the strings in government had some merit
after all, but nobody, least of all Americans themselves listened
to the former World War II military leader.
Watergate shocked the world with the ugly reality of how corrupt
and evil the American Executive can become, and after it finally
ended it was hoped against hope that America would embark on a
new era of being the 'Good Superman' once again, using its power
for good, and not evil. Yeah, like that lasted long. To me, your
best shining moment in modern times was best shown during the
Carter Administration, and how it set about to truly bring peace
and harmony in many hotspots of the world, not just the Middle
East. Unfortunately, he got bitten in the ***** by Iran, another
Frankenstein Monster created by Dr. USA's shenanigans. Enter
Reagan, who would quickly forget and dump the nation's newfound
'humility', and who would go on to play havoc in Central America
and elsewhere, then comes Bush Sr. who would have to face another
Frankenstein Monster his country created, called Iraq.
I shouldn't have to remind anyone over the age of 18 with
sufficient intelligence and education (schooled or self-taught)
as to how America created the mess that became modern Iraq, just
another monster created by the good ol' USA coming back to haunt
it. If you still require a history lesson, I'll be more than
happy to fill you in.
Then comes 9/11, and such countries as CANADA and others joined
the US in invading Afghanistan to go after the Taliban and
Osama's crew, one of the few righteous causes America ever got
itself involved in. Then, sometime around August 2002, while
still fighting against the bad guys and rounding them up there
and shipping them off to Cuba, Dubya starts making sudden and
ominous noises about Iraq, how it posed a 'clear and present
danger' to America, seemingly just as much as Afghanistan not
even a year earlier.
Now, be honest with yourselves, my American cousins. How many of
you asked yourself from that point until he actually sent in the
troops the question, "Why Iraq, why **now**?? Nothing, absolutely
nothing changed between the time the coalition forces left after
the Gulf War and Saddam started thumbing his nose at UN weapons
inspectors in the mid-1990's and that point. Nothing that is,
except the inauguration of one George W. Bush.
His agenda from the very beginning, dictated to him from the very
ilk that surrounded his daddy Bush Sr., was to secure the oil
fields of Iraq. No more, and no less. As to who these people are,
what walks of life they hail from, what their current positions
of power are, I do not know, as I am not a 'conspiracy theorist'
at heart. But I can tell you, they exist, and they have an agenda
of their own, and they are the ones who decide the fate of
nations and peoples around the world, save a few, such as China,
from where the 200 million 'mounted troops' of the Book of
Revelation will advance towards the same oilfields now controlled
by the US. You can deny the truth until you're blue in the face,
which would be typical of the typical American citizen. But my
rage isn't against them, they're just people (or sheeple, as some
put it in this ng). It is against those elite around the world,
but mainly centred in the US, who pull the actual strings of
power on this planet.
And one day, very soon now, on April 18, 2004 in fact, there will
come one *already known* from among their midst, who will step up
to the plate, and assume his God-allowed anciently prophesied
pre-ordained command post. I don't know by what name he will go
by, or what his appearance will be. But we will all see him, no
doubt. I don't think he will have any 'title' such as President,
or Secretary-General as such, but he will be acknowledged as de
facto leader of that global elite, although to the rest of the
world, something else entirely, not so malignant and evil. He
will be the great Benefactor of Mankind, without any apparent
power of himself, but more powerful in actuality than anyone in
history. He will be given the power to subdue all enemies that
stand in his way, both individuals and entire nations, three of
them as a matter of prophetic fact. Not by military might,
necessarily, mind you, but subdue them he will. For more
information as to how he will go about doing what he will do,
consult Daniel 7:8-28, 8:9-27, 9:26-27, 11:21-45, Revelation
13-19 and various other places in prophetic endtime Scripture.
And that beast, the Antichrist and the 'Global Elite' he runs
probably even now, will be ridden upon by the drunken harlot,
MYSTERY BABYLON.
'Mystery Babylon' my friends, is not the Roman Catholic Church
(my own adopted church, btw; I was previously fundamentalist
Protestant seven years ago), it's not Rome, or the Pope,
(although I believe the False Prophet will become one himself on
April 18, 2004), and it ain't no little old lady in Pasadena
either.
It is the United States of America today. Just as much as your
political, economic, and militarial might has enveloped the
world, so too has your 'culture'. As to when it began to infect
other nations remains a matter of debate, but I'd pinpoint it at
about the same time as your 'Manifest Destiny' political/military
doctrine began. You came, you saw, you conquered, you infected
the world with your value system. Not all of it was evil mind
you, especially at the beginning. But you made the rest of the
nations so stupefied and mesmerized at the same time by your
outrageous but fascinating 'ways' that you have been leading us
all by our nose rings ever since. And, as time progressed, as you
degraded into the cesspool of absolute evil you have obviously
become, we duly followed suit, blinded by your multi-coloured
neon flashing 'lights', and pounding rhythmic drum beat. Not a
single nation, especially now with the Internet, is immune to it.
It may not be the longest running freakshow this planet has ever
known, as the Roman Empire may have dibs on that record, but it
certainly is the most powerful. Stirring echoes of Daniel and
Revelation ringing in your head are purely intended.
Jesus wasn't telling us to beware of some worldwide church now in
its very death throes, the RC church, abandoned by the masses
virtually everywhere, but of that which caused it to become as
much. American culture spread worldwide. Pure and simple, believe
it or not.
America, the once beautiful virgin, founded upon true Christian
ideals and values, has become a drunken harlot. You have turned
your back on God in so many ways, and in such a deep manner, and
so quickly as to defy reason itself.
America has been prophesied to become the heart, mind, and very
seat of the Antichrist, until he and his other nations have no
further use for you, and in the space of one literal hour, you
will become ash.
You think I'm Anti-American, Daniel? You ought to ask God what He
thinks of you, your President, your culture, and your nation. For
more information on what is going to happen to New York City
specifically, and America in general in the next seven months,
read Revelation, chapters 17 and 18. From one Daniel to another,
from your northern cousin, mark my words well. You think 9/11 was
horrific? Grab some popcorn, and enjoy the 'Feature Presentation'
folks.
So go right ahead and boycott our Canadian side bacon. What with
your beloved President Bush already having reneged on the North
American Free Trade Agreement on lumber, steel, produce, etc. ad
nauseam to us and many other nations, all the while drumming up
similar 'deals' in South America, there's nothing more you
bastards can do to us than you've already done. And as Daarksyde
said, if you suddenly decide to become violent, I'll be ready for
ya, and the first one of you ignorant shitheads I meet coming up
here with your guns is you, the very *worst* epitome of a citizen
your sick nation could possibly offer.
Daniel Adam Millar
March 2, 2004
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04 Mar 2004 01:18:15 PM |
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"Dan" <twotrickpony@shaw.ca> wrote in news:Uvc1c.671425$X%5.4491@pd7tw2no:
[praise snipped]
But, as I said, we're benign and harmless to the rest of the
world. We mean absolutely nothing in the Global Scheme of Things,
not anymore at least.
I have to ask, when DID Canada mean anything in the Global Scheme of
Things?
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04 Mar 2004 05:04:10 PM |
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Dan asked in a reply:
<< I have to ask, when DID Canada mean anything in the Global Scheme of
Things? >>
As I remember back in 1972 they supplied most of the worlds LSD - via Nick
Sands. And, currently the BC 'DANK' is certainly a great influence on the
'Global Scheme of Things' in the world. :)
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05 Mar 2004 10:24:40 PM |
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"Saint Isidore of Laytonville" wrote;
Dan asked in a reply:
<< I have to ask, when DID Canada mean anything in the Global
Scheme of
Things? >>
As I remember back in 1972 they supplied most of the worlds
LSD - via Nick
Sands. And, currently the BC 'DANK' is certainly a great
influence on the
'Global Scheme of Things' in the world. :)
I stopped keeping track back since I did Mandela in the mid-80's.
Maybe I should take it up again, eh? Gimme a few hits of that
*****, and 72 hours at the keyboard. I'll send a diatribe at
Dubya, Cheney, the CIA, and NSA (by proxy) that will have them
going ballistic. Danke!
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Holy Ditribe Batman!
Looky here bub. You got the DANGEROUS part right.
Anyone --any one-- who is an enemy of the United
States of America is sticking their neck out and
handing us a razor. This is World War Three. Any-
one who thinks this is an exercise in philosophy
isn't paying attention. That's all I have to say.
Daniel Joseph Min
"Dan" <twotrickpony@shaw.ca> wrote:
I truly hope I can take your attack personally, Daniel, so as to
not feel presumptuous in responding, and sticking up for your
'perceived enemies'. I'm a Canadian myself, and despite how you
*think* I feel about America, or Americans judging by the tone
and content of my own posts (if you were indeed reading them, and
counting them among your 'examples'), I happen to still harbor a
few good opinions and sentiments towards both, albeit to a lesser
degree to that which is opposite. But I am anything but a
vehement Anti-American, hating all America, and all things
American. What I am, I would like to think anyhow, is a pragmatic
realist.
My intent, believe it or not, is not to stir up the current wave
of Anti-Americanism sweeping the globe for its *own* sake, as if
out of some deepseated blind hatred. I assure you, and others
reading this, that it is not. My intent is to point out certain
facts about your nation and its people that I find not just
distasteful or disturbing, but dangerous, but only because those
'current' or 'modern' traits (as opposed to 'traditional', or
somehow 'inbred') are impinging upon the rest of the world, my
own nation included, to such a degree as to place us in peril,
one that is needless, self-serving, hypocritical, bullying and
based upon nothing but deception, greed, stupidity, ignorance,
violent-mindedness, and hate. In a word, *evil*.
There is *much* about America that I admire as well. Your
enduring support of Israel since the time of its inception is
truly awesome, and God-inspired (and no, I'm not Jewish-- I'm
Scots-Irish). Without your nations' aid, Israel would have
succumbed to attacks from within and without a long, long time
ago. Your traditional traditions' concerning raw democracy, fair
play, free speech, standing up for the 'little guy' whether
individual or group, American or otherwise, is, or at least *was*
truly unique among nations. E Pluribus Unum. These are only a
'few' of the many examples I could give.
As for Americans themselves, I can't say that I've met many (but
being a border-hugging Canadian living near Vancouver, I can't be
too sure what their citizenship was), but I have met an
*inordinate* number from that known group that astounded me with
their kindness, gentleness and graciousness. Equally so, their
apparent ignorance of the world at large (and Canada
specifically). But for the most part, those who would trek north
of the 49th Parallel are awesome people, and if they have any
foibles, they are benign at worst. As for those Americans who
stay behind, I'll let the average American reader judge their own
average neighbor, as I've never met them personally. But of those
that I have met personally, I can only wish that my own
countrymen could exhibit all those characteristics, along with
the typical American boldness and brashness, outspokenness, and
sheer guts.
If Canadians could only capture the very best as that exemplified
by our neighbours to the south, we too might be a great nation.
As it is, we have become *now* a nation of spineless, meek,
self-serving wimps, by and large. At one point we too deserved to
be respected and admired for the people who we *once* were. Those
days are now gone. But no matter how much we've degraded
ourselves, we are ultimately benign, irrelevant and truly worthy
to be dismissed by the rest of the world as a collective people
and nation. The very fact alone that we have let the Americans
basically take over protecting us from the rest of this dangerous
world in terms of defense, that without the USA, that such a
nation as the Netherlands could ostensibly take us over in a
fortnight makes me truly ashamed to say to others that I am
Canadian, by itself.
But, as I said, we're benign and harmless to the rest of the
world. We mean absolutely nothing in the Global Scheme of Things,
not anymore at least. America, on the other hand, has become the
sole SuperPower of the world. That it became so because of its
being founded upon those original Christian ideals, I personally
would not doubt whatsoever.
Your great nation, the greatest economic and military power ever
known in human history (and has been at least since the late 19th
Century) was conceived and born in a cauldron of foreign
oppression, both perpetrated economically and militarily. Thanks
largely due to the histrionics of a diseased and self-deluded
King George III, you managed to throw off that yoke quite
brilliantly, eloquently and effectively. And you gathered
yourselves together, and pledged to build a nation built upon
basic Christian ideals, loosely translated by the 'pursuit of
life, liberty, and happiness' as defined within the text of your
very Constitution.
At *that* time, you had the *true spirit*, truly. But as you grew
as a nation, advancing both economically and militarily, you came
to a certain point where you stopped being satisfied with what
you were doing within your own borders, and improving the lot of
your own fellow man with your own over-abundant resource base,
and started looking beyond them, to other nations. By the mid to
late 1800's, you began to shed off the idea that every nation has
its own inherent right to decide its own destiny, and began to
proclaim a brand new 'Manifest Destiny' philosophy begun during
the Monroe Administration, a doctrine that embraced the idea that
the great burgeoning nation of America had a God-given right to
enforce its own ideals upon other nations. "Don't Tread on Me"
quickly turned into "Might makes Right", somehow, somewhere along
the way. "Give me liberty or give me death", by "54' 40 or
fight!". America managed to steal almost half of the British
Columbian coastline during the Yukon Gold Rush, and thanks to the
Quisling gutless Brits, gave it to them with no argument
whatsoever. Just a case in point, there's been worse examples of
American travesties before or since that time.
America was now the official 'Big kid on campus', and God help
anybody who got in her (Lady Liberty's) way. You got into various
'provoked' wars with various nations, and came out owning various
territories around the globe, such as the Phillippines, Cuba,
wherever the hell you felt like going, in essence. You came, you
intentionally picked a fight where no quarrel had been, found
grounds to attack, and conquered.
World Wars One and Two come along, and you're suddenly
'isolationist'. Then later, much later, for one reason or another
you do get personally physically involved, and you 'help' kick
***** so that Europe remains European, and not just German-occupied
territory. Hats off to America, though; had you not been there,
this world would look very Japanese and Soviet dominated, in my
opinion. But you tend to think you did it all that alone, by
yourselves, which does nothing but dishonour to those of other
nations who fell before you in much greater numbers.
No matter. You did good at that stage of history notwithstanding,
and the entire free world indeed owed you a debt of gratitude for
your efforts and sacrifice, and afterwards you made damned sure
that they never forgot how you won those wars by yourselves, and
how much they owed you *that* debt as well. More historical
revisionism to go along with that part of prior history of
barefaced empirical tyranny quite conveniently forgotten by you,
the conquerors of the free world, who were now writing the free
world's history books.
And before leaving that last big honest war, I must point out
that you ended it by dropping not one, but two nukes on civilian
population centres just to see the effects on human beings
instead of doing a demonstration of your suddenly acquired new
weaponry, such as calling up Mr. Tojo at midnight Tokyo time, and
saying 'Hey Tojo, ring up your beloved deity Hirohito, and come
outside and look over Tokyo Harbour!', followed by an awesome yet
harmless 25,000 foot height firework they'd never forget. I might
be naive in some respects in that regard, I admit, but at least
my imagination doesn't involve wondering whether a uranium bomb
has as much long term effects on people at the 5,000 foot range
as does one made out of plutonium, etc.
After WWII, thanks to FDR (Churchill probably having no real say
in the matter) selling out Eastern Europe to the USSR in the
Yalta agreement (heck, this was Europe's war in the first place,
let them suffer the aftermath), the world was primed to begin
another round of the 'same old', but this time polarized into two
main camps, the 'free world' headed by the US, and the Communist
world, headed by the USSR, and soon partnered (of sorts) by
China. And you all went off, continuing your globalized version
of one big Risk game, gobbling up countries one by one. But
whereas the Soviets were usually much more blunt about how they
went about the game, the Americans were no less insidious, if
only due to the fact that you had the money, and could buy
whatever, and whomever you pleased to prop up or overthrow
whomever you pleased throughout that 'sphere' of the globe not
yet coloured by 'Red' or 'Yellow'. And so you sowed the seeds of
their own eventual destruction, at the hands of their outraged
citizenry, sick of the brutality, tortures, rapes and murders at
the hands of those your nation propped up, vicariously through
economic, military and other 'intelligent' means.
And when those nations, such as Cuba for example, began to defend
themselves against the one nation responsible for their misery
and current status, you climbed up on your big white horse and
screamed blue bloody murder. How dare they have a few nukes on
their island to defend themselves against us, who have 10,000 and
can thus incinerate them two billion times over!
Whatever the situation, you always made sure that history would
gloss over the nasty bits that your country played, while
trumpeting the good ones. And dammit, it worked just dandy. As a
Canadian schoolkid, we were fed the same doggerel as history as
as you were, albeit to a slightly lesser degree.
And your cultural influence, via mainly television, took over the
rest of the job where our textbooks and teachers left off. It
wasn't until your own citizenry took up arms during Vietnam that
all of us in the free world *also* scratched our collective
little heads and said, 'Hmmmm...'. Perhaps President Dwight (Ike)
Eisenhower's farewell address to the nation, warning his fellow
Americans of the vast and insidious 'military-industrial complex'
that *actually* pulled the strings in government had some merit
after all, but nobody, least of all Americans themselves listened
to the former World War II military leader.
Watergate shocked the world with the ugly reality of how corrupt
and evil the American Executive can become, and after it finally
ended it was hoped against hope that America would embark on a
new era of being the 'Good Superman' once again, using its power
for good, and not evil. Yeah, like that lasted long. To me, your
best shining moment in modern times was best shown during the
Carter Administration, and how it set about to truly bring peace
and harmony in many hotspots of the world, not just the Middle
East. Unfortunately, he got bitten in the ***** by Iran, another
Frankenstein Monster created by Dr. USA's shenanigans. Enter
Reagan, who would quickly forget and dump the nation's newfound
'humility', and who would go on to play havoc in Central America
and elsewhere, then comes Bush Sr. who would have to face another
Frankenstein Monster his country created, called Iraq.
I shouldn't have to remind anyone over the age of 18 with
sufficient intelligence and education (schooled or self-taught)
as to how America created the mess that became modern Iraq, just
another monster created by the good ol' USA coming back to haunt
it. If you still require a history lesson, I'll be more than
happy to fill you in.
Then comes 9/11, and such countries as CANADA and others joined
the US in invading Afghanistan to go after the Taliban and
Osama's crew, one of the few righteous causes America ever got
itself involved in. Then, sometime around August 2002, while
still fighting against the bad guys and rounding them up there
and shipping them off to Cuba, Dubya starts making sudden and
ominous noises about Iraq, how it posed a 'clear and present
danger' to America, seemingly just as much as Afghanistan not
even a year earlier.
Now, be honest with yourselves, my American cousins. How many of
you asked yourself from that point until he actually sent in the
troops the question, "Why Iraq, why **now**?? Nothing, absolutely
nothing changed between the time the coalition forces left after
the Gulf War and Saddam started thumbing his nose at UN weapons
inspectors in the mid-1990's and that point. Nothing that is,
except the inauguration of one George W. Bush.
His agenda from the very beginning, dictated to him from the very
ilk that surrounded his daddy Bush Sr., was to secure the oil
fields of Iraq. No more, and no less. As to who these people are,
what walks of life they hail from, what their current positions
of power are, I do not know, as I am not a 'conspiracy theorist'
at heart. But I can tell you, they exist, and they have an agenda
of their own, and they are the ones who decide the fate of
nations and peoples around the world, save a few, such as China,
from where the 200 million 'mounted troops' of the Book of
Revelation will advance towards the same oilfields now controlled
by the US. You can deny the truth until you're blue in the face,
which would be typical of the typical American citizen. But my
rage isn't against them, they're just people (or sheeple, as some
put it in this ng). It is against those elite around the world,
but mainly centred in the US, who pull the actual strings of
power on this planet.
And one day, very soon now, on April 18, 2004 in fact, there will
come one *already known* from among their midst, who will step up
to the plate, and assume his God-allowed anciently prophesied
pre-ordained command post. I don't know by what name he will go
by, or what his appearance will be. But we will all see him, no
doubt. I don't think he will have any 'title' such as President,
or Secretary-General as such, but he will be acknowledged as de
facto leader of that global elite, although to the rest of the
world, something else entirely, not so malignant and evil. He
will be the great Benefactor of Mankind, without any apparent
power of himself, but more powerful in actuality than anyone in
history. He will be given the power to subdue all enemies that
stand in his way, both individuals and entire nations, three of
them as a matter of prophetic fact. Not by military might,
necessarily, mind you, but subdue them he will. For more
information as to how he will go about doing what he will do,
consult Daniel 7:8-28, 8:9-27, 9:26-27, 11:21-45, Revelation
13-19 and various other places in prophetic endtime Scripture.
And that beast, the Antichrist and the 'Global Elite' he runs
probably even now, will be ridden upon by the drunken harlot,
MYSTERY BABYLON.
'Mystery Babylon' my friends, is not the Roman Catholic Church
(my own adopted church, btw; I was previously fundamentalist
Protestant seven years ago), it's not Rome, or the Pope,
(although I believe the False Prophet will become one himself on
April 18, 2004), and it ain't no little old lady in Pasadena
either.
It is the United States of America today. Just as much as your
political, economic, and militarial might has enveloped the
world, so too has your 'culture'. As to when it began to infect
other nations remains a matter of debate, but I'd pinpoint it at
about the same time as your 'Manifest Destiny' political/military
doctrine began. You came, you saw, you conquered, you infected
the world with your value system. Not all of it was evil mind
you, especially at the beginning. But you made the rest of the
nations so stupefied and mesmerized at the same time by your
outrageous but fascinating 'ways' that you have been leading us
all by our nose rings ever since. And, as time progressed, as you
degraded into the cesspool of absolute evil you have obviously
become, we duly followed suit, blinded by your multi-coloured
neon flashing 'lights', and pounding rhythmic drum beat. Not a
single nation, especially now with the Internet, is immune to it.
It may not be the longest running freakshow this planet has ever
known, as the Roman Empire may have dibs on that record, but it
certainly is the most powerful. Stirring echoes of Daniel and
Revelation ringing in your head are purely intended.
Jesus wasn't telling us to beware of some worldwide church now in
its very death throes, the RC church, abandoned by the masses
virtually everywhere, but of that which caused it to become as
much. American culture spread worldwide. Pure and simple, believe
it or not.
America, the once beautiful virgin, founded upon true Christian
ideals and values, has become a drunken harlot. You have turned
your back on God in so many ways, and in such a deep manner, and
so quickly as to defy reason itself.
America has been prophesied to become the heart, mind, and very
seat of the Antichrist, until he and his other nations have no
further use for you, and in the space of one literal hour, you
will become ash.
You think I'm Anti-American, Daniel? You ought to ask God what He
thinks of you, your President, your culture, and your nation. For
more information on what is going to happen to New York City
specifically, and America in general in the next seven months,
read Revelation, chapters 17 and 18. From one Daniel to another,
from your northern cousin, mark my words well. You think 9/11 was
horrific? Grab some popcorn, and enjoy the 'Feature Presentation'
folks.
So go right ahead and boycott our Canadian side bacon. What with
your beloved President Bush already having reneged on the North
American Free Trade Agreement on lumber, steel, produce, etc. ad
nauseam to us and many other nations, all the while drumming up
similar 'deals' in South America, there's nothing more you
bastards can do to us than you've already done. And as Daarksyde
said, if you suddenly decide to become violent, I'll be ready for
ya, and the first one of you ignorant shitheads I meet coming up
here with your guns is you, the very *worst* epitome of a citizen
your sick nation could possibly offer.
"Justice is issued forth from the barrel of a gun"
--Chairman Mao Tse-tung (1893-1976)
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"Adivdicator" ranted;
Looky here bub. You got the DANGEROUS part right.
Anyone --any one-- who is an enemy of the United
States of America is sticking their neck out and
handing us a razor. This is World War Three. Any-
one who thinks this is an exercise in philosophy
isn't paying attention. That's all I have to say.
Daniel Joseph Min
Hey, like when you say, "That's all I have to say.", are you
like, being purely rhetorical, referring to this thread only, or
veritably announcing your retirement from being Usenet's
self-appointed Messiah, come to save us all from likeminded
people as myself who have seen through the *****, and are
claiming our own?
How come everyone associates your name with Killfile, anyhow?
Your enema within, foot first
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On 3 Mar 2004 05:31:28 +0100, Adivdicator
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Holy Ditribe Batman!
Looky here bub. You got the DANGEROUS part right.
Anyone --any one-- who is an enemy of the United
States of America is sticking their neck out and
handing us a razor. This is World War Three. Any-
one who thinks this is an exercise in philosophy
isn't paying attention. That's all I have to say.
Daniel Joseph Min
"Dan" <twotrickpony@shaw.ca> wrote:
I truly hope I can take your attack personally, Daniel, so as to
not feel presumptuous in responding, and sticking up for your
'perceived enemies'. I'm a Canadian myself, and despite how you
*think* I feel about America, or Americans judging by the tone
and content of my own posts (if you were indeed reading them, and
counting them among your 'examples'), I happen to still harbor a
few good opinions and sentiments towards both, albeit to a lesser
degree to that which is opposite. But I am anything but a
vehement Anti-American, hating all America, and all things
American. What I am, I would like to think anyhow, is a pragmatic
realist.
My intent, believe it or not, is not to stir up the current wave
of Anti-Americanism sweeping the globe for its *own* sake, as if
out of some deepseated blind hatred. I assure you, and others
reading this, that it is not. My intent is to point out certain
facts about your nation and its people that I find not just
distasteful or disturbing, but dangerous, but only because those
'current' or 'modern' traits (as opposed to 'traditional', or
somehow 'inbred') are impinging upon the rest of the world, my
own nation included, to such a degree as to place us in peril,
one that is needless, self-serving, hypocritical, bullying and
based upon nothing but deception, greed, stupidity, ignorance,
violent-mindedness, and hate. In a word, *evil*.
There is *much* about America that I admire as well. Your
enduring support of Israel since the time of its inception is
truly awesome, and God-inspired (and no, I'm not Jewish-- I'm
Scots-Irish). Without your nations' aid, Israel would have
succumbed to attacks from within and without a long, long time
ago. Your traditional traditions' concerning raw democracy, fair
play, free speech, standing up for the 'little guy' whether
individual or group, American or otherwise, is, or at least *was*
truly unique among nations. E Pluribus Unum. These are only a
'few' of the many examples I could give.
As for Americans themselves, I can't say that I've met many (but
being a border-hugging Canadian living near Vancouver, I can't be
too sure what their citizenship was), but I have met an
*inordinate* number from that known group that astounded me with
their kindness, gentleness and graciousness. Equally so, their
apparent ignorance of the world at large (and Canada
specifically). But for the most part, those who would trek north
of the 49th Parallel are awesome people, and if they have any
foibles, they are benign at worst. As for those Americans who
stay behind, I'll let the average American reader judge their own
average neighbor, as I've never met them personally. But of those
that I have met personally, I can only wish that my own
countrymen could exhibit all those characteristics, along with
the typical American boldness and brashness, outspokenness, and
sheer guts.
If Canadians could only capture the very best as that exemplified
by our neighbours to the south, we too might be a great nation.
As it is, we have become *now* a nation of spineless, meek,
self-serving wimps, by and large. At one point we too deserved to
be respected and admired for the people who we *once* were. Those
days are now gone. But no matter how much we've degraded
ourselves, we are ultimately benign, irrelevant and truly worthy
to be dismissed by the rest of the world as a collective people
and nation. The very fact alone that we have let the Americans
basically take over protecting us from the rest of this dangerous
world in terms of defense, that without the USA, that such a
nation as the Netherlands could ostensibly take us over in a
fortnight makes me truly ashamed to say to others that I am
Canadian, by itself.
But, as I said, we're benign and harmless to the rest of the
world. We mean absolutely nothing in the Global Scheme of Things,
not anymore at least. America, on the other hand, has become the
sole SuperPower of the world. That it became so because of its
being founded upon those original Christian ideals, I personally
would not doubt whatsoever.
Your great nation, the greatest economic and military power ever
known in human history (and has been at least since the late 19th
Century) was conceived and born in a cauldron of foreign
oppression, both perpetrated economically and militarily. Thanks
largely due to the histrionics of a diseased and self-deluded
King George III, you managed to throw off that yoke quite
brilliantly, eloquently and effectively. And you gathered
yourselves together, and pledged to build a nation built upon
basic Christian ideals, loosely translated by the 'pursuit of
life, liberty, and happiness' as defined within the text of your
very Constitution.
At *that* time, you had the *true spirit*, truly. But as you grew
as a nation, advancing both economically and militarily, you came
to a certain point where you stopped being satisfied with what
you were doing within your own borders, and improving the lot of
your own fellow man with your own over-abundant resource base,
and started looking beyond them, to other nations. By the mid to
late 1800's, you began to shed off the idea that every nation has
its own inherent right to decide its own destiny, and began to
proclaim a brand new 'Manifest Destiny' philosophy begun during
the Monroe Administration, a doctrine that embraced the idea that
the great burgeoning nation of America had a God-given right to
enforce its own ideals upon other nations. "Don't Tread on Me"
quickly turned into "Might makes Right", somehow, somewhere along
the way. "Give me liberty or give me death", by "54' 40 or
fight!". America managed to steal almost half of the British
Columbian coastline during the Yukon Gold Rush, and thanks to the
Quisling gutless Brits, gave it to them with no argument
whatsoever. Just a case in point, there's been worse examples of
American travesties before or since that time.
America was now the official 'Big kid on campus', and God help
anybody who got in her (Lady Liberty's) way. You got into various
'provoked' wars with various nations, and came out owning various
territories around the globe, such as the Phillippines, Cuba,
wherever the hell you felt like going, in essence. You came, you
intentionally picked a fight where no quarrel had been, found
grounds to attack, and conquered.
World Wars One and Two come along, and you're suddenly
'isolationist'. Then later, much later, for one reason or another
you do get personally physically involved, and you 'help' kick
***** so that Europe remains European, and not just German-occupied
territory. Hats off to America, though; had you not been there,
this world would look very Japanese and Soviet dominated, in my
opinion. But you tend to think you did it all that alone, by
yourselves, which does nothing but dishonour to those of other
nations who fell before you in much greater numbers.
No matter. You did good at that stage of history notwithstanding,
and the entire free world indeed owed you a debt of gratitude for
your efforts and sacrifice, and afterwards you made damned sure
that they never forgot how you won those wars by yourselves, and
how much they owed you *that* debt as well. More historical
revisionism to go along with that part of prior history of
barefaced empirical tyranny quite conveniently forgotten by you,
the conquerors of the free world, who were now writing the free
world's history books.
And before leaving that last big honest war, I must point out
that you ended it by dropping not one, but two nukes on civilian
population centres just to see the effects on human beings
instead of doing a demonstration of your suddenly acquired new
weaponry, such as calling up Mr. Tojo at midnight Tokyo time, and
saying 'Hey Tojo, ring up your beloved deity Hirohito, and come
outside and look over Tokyo Harbour!', followed by an awesome yet
harmless 25,000 foot height firework they'd never forget. I might
be naive in some respects in that regard, I admit, but at least
my imagination doesn't involve wondering whether a uranium bomb
has as much long term effects on people at the 5,000 foot range
as does one made out of plutonium, etc.
After WWII, thanks to FDR (Churchill probably having no real say
in the matter) selling out Eastern Europe to the USSR in the
Yalta agreement (heck, this was Europe's war in the first place,
let them suffer the aftermath), the world was primed to begin
another round of the 'same old', but this time polarized into two
main camps, the 'free world' headed by the US, and the Communist
world, headed by the USSR, and soon partnered (of sorts) by
China. And you all went off, continuing your globalized version
of one big Risk game, gobbling up countries one by one. But
whereas the Soviets were usually much more blunt about how they
went about the game, the Americans were no less insidious, if
only due to the fact that you had the money, and could buy
whatever, and whomever you pleased to prop up or overthrow
whomever you pleased throughout that 'sphere' of the globe not
yet coloured by 'Red' or 'Yellow'. And so you sowed the seeds of
their own eventual destruction, at the hands of their outraged
citizenry, sick of the brutality, tortures, rapes and murders at
the hands of those your nation propped up, vicariously through
economic, military and other 'intelligent' means.
And when those nations, such as Cuba for example, began to defend
themselves against the one nation responsible for their misery
and current status, you climbed up on your big white horse and
screamed blue bloody murder. How dare they have a few nukes on
their island to defend themselves against us, who have 10,000 and
can thus incinerate them two billion times over!
Whatever the situation, you always made sure that history would
gloss over the nasty bits that your country played, while
trumpeting the good ones. And dammit, it worked just dandy. As a
Canadian schoolkid, we were fed the same doggerel as history as
as you were, albeit to a slightly lesser degree.
And your cultural influence, via mainly television, took over the
rest of the job where our textbooks and teachers left off. It
wasn't until your own citizenry took up arms during Vietnam that
all of us in the free world *also* scratched our collective
little heads and said, 'Hmmmm...'. Perhaps President Dwight (Ike)
Eisenhower's farewell address to the nation, warning his fellow
Americans of the vast and insidious 'military-industrial complex'
that *actually* pulled the strings in government had some merit
after all, but nobody, least of all Americans themselves listened
to the former World War II military leader.
Watergate shocked the world with the ugly reality of how corrupt
and evil the American Executive can become, and after it finally
ended it was hoped against hope that America would embark on a
new era of being the 'Good Superman' once again, using its power
for good, and not evil. Yeah, like that lasted long. To me, your
best shining moment in modern times was best shown during the
Carter Administration, and how it set about to truly bring peace
and harmony in many hotspots of the world, not just the Middle
East. Unfortunately, he got bitten in the ***** by Iran, another
Frankenstein Monster created by Dr. USA's shenanigans. Enter
Reagan, who would quickly forget and dump the nation's newfound
'humility', and who would go on to play havoc in Central America
and elsewhere, then comes Bush Sr. who would have to face another
Frankenstein Monster his country created, called Iraq.
I shouldn't have to remind anyone over the age of 18 with
sufficient intelligence and education (schooled or self-taught)
as to how America created the mess that became modern Iraq, just
another monster created by the good ol' USA coming back to haunt
it. If you still require a history lesson, I'll be more than
happy to fill you in.
Then comes 9/11, and such countries as CANADA and others joined
the US in invading Afghanistan to go after the Taliban and
Osama's crew, one of the few righteous causes America ever got
itself involved in. Then, sometime around August 2002, while
still fighting against the bad guys and rounding them up there
and shipping them off to Cuba, Dubya starts making sudden and
ominous noises about Iraq, how it posed a 'clear and present
danger' to America, seemingly just as much as Afghanistan not
even a year earlier.
Now, be honest with yourselves, my American cousins. How many of
you asked yourself from that point until he actually sent in the
troops the question, "Why Iraq, why **now**?? Nothing, absolutely
nothing changed between the time the coalition forces left after
the Gulf War and Saddam started thumbing his nose at UN weapons
inspectors in the mid-1990's and that point. Nothing that is,
except the inauguration of one George W. Bush.
His agenda from the very beginning, dictated to him from the very
ilk that surrounded his daddy Bush Sr., was to secure the oil
fields of Iraq. No more, and no less. As to who these people are,
what walks of life they hail from, what their current positions
of power are, I do not know, as I am not a 'conspiracy theorist'
at heart. But I can tell you, they exist, and they have an agenda
of their own, and they are the ones who decide the fate of
nations and peoples around the world, save a few, such as China,
from where the 200 million 'mounted troops' of the Book of
Revelation will advance towards the same oilfields now controlled
by the US. You can deny the truth until you're blue in the face,
which would be typical of the typical American citizen. But my
rage isn't against them, they're just people (or sheeple, as some
put it in this ng). It is against those elite around the world,
but mainly centred in the US, who pull the actual strings of
power on this planet.
And one day, very soon now, on April 18, 2004 in fact, there will
come one *already known* from among their midst, who will step up
to the plate, and assume his God-allowed anciently prophesied
pre-ordained command post. I don't know by what name he will go
by, or what his appearance will be. But we will all see him, no
doubt. I don't think he will have any 'title' such as President,
or Secretary-General as such, but he will be acknowledged as de
facto leader of that global elite, although to the rest of the
world, something else entirely, not so malignant and evil. He
will be the great Benefactor of Mankind, without any apparent
power of himself, but more powerful in actuality than anyone in
history. He will be given the power to subdue all enemies that
stand in his way, both individuals and entire nations, three of
them as a matter of prophetic fact. Not by military might,
necessarily, mind you, but subdue them he will. For more
information as to how he will go about doing what he will do,
consult Daniel 7:8-28, 8:9-27, 9:26-27, 11:21-45, Revelation
13-19 and various other places in prophetic endtime Scripture.
And that beast, the Antichrist and the 'Global Elite' he runs
probably even now, will be ridden upon by the drunken harlot,
MYSTERY BABYLON.
'Mystery Babylon' my friends, is not the Roman Catholic Church
(my own adopted church, btw; I was previously fundamentalist
Protestant seven years ago), it's not Rome, or the Pope,
(although I believe the False Prophet will become one himself on
April 18, 2004), and it ain't no little old lady in Pasadena
either.
It is the United States of America today. Just as much as your
political, economic, and militarial might has enveloped the
world, so too has your 'culture'. As to when it began to infect
other nations remains a matter of debate, but I'd pinpoint it at
about the same time as your 'Manifest Destiny' political/military
doctrine began. You came, you saw, you conquered, you infected
the world with your value system. Not all of it was evil mind
you, especially at the beginning. But you made the rest of the
nations so stupefied and mesmerized at the same time by your
outrageous but fascinating 'ways' that you have been leading us
all by our nose rings ever since. And, as time progressed, as you
degraded into the cesspool of absolute evil you have obviously
become, we duly followed suit, blinded by your multi-coloured
neon flashing 'lights', and pounding rhythmic drum beat. Not a
single nation, especially now with the Internet, is immune to it.
It may not be the longest running freakshow this planet has ever
known, as the Roman Empire may have dibs on that record, but it
certainly is the most powerful. Stirring echoes of Daniel and
Revelation ringing in your head are purely intended.
Jesus wasn't telling us to beware of some worldwide church now in
its very death throes, the RC church, abandoned by the masses
virtually everywhere, but of that which caused it to become as
much. American culture spread worldwide. Pure and simple, believe
it or not.
America, the once beautiful virgin, founded upon true Christian
ideals and values, has become a drunken harlot. You have turned
your back on God in so many ways, and in such a deep manner, and
so quickly as to defy reason itself.
America has been prophesied to become the heart, mind, and very
seat of the Antichrist, until he and his other nations have no
further use for you, and in the space of one literal hour, you
will become ash.
You think I'm Anti-American, Daniel? You ought to ask God what He
thinks of you, your President, your culture, and your nation. For
more information on what is going to happen to New York City
specifically, and America in general in the next seven months,
read Revelation, chapters 17 and 18. From one Daniel to another,
from your northern cousin, mark my words well. You think 9/11 was
horrific? Grab some popcorn, and enjoy the 'Feature Presentation'
folks.
So go right ahead and boycott our Canadian side bacon. What with
your beloved President Bush already having reneged on the North
American Free Trade Agreement on lumber, steel, produce, etc. ad
nauseam to us and many other nations, all the while drumming up
similar 'deals' in South America, there's nothing more you
bastards can do to us than you've already done. And as Daarksyde
said, if you suddenly decide to become violent, I'll be ready for
ya, and the first one of you ignorant shitheads I meet coming up
here with your guns is you, the very *worst* epitome of a citizen
your sick nation could possibly offer.
"Justice is issued forth from the barrel of a gun"
--Chairman Mao Tse-tung (1893-1976)
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Some people hate this remailer so badly that, for example, they did not hesitate to celebrate the death of 148 French tourists in a plane crash.
Those people seceded from the human race, so don't hesitate to report them directly to the police.
2004/01/03 (contact <abuse@cotse.com>) Blue.Jay celebrates
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Ymx1ZWpheQ%3D%3D.19d787f018eb3019d6fd3faa2125547c%401073158846.cotse.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
2004/01/19 <rabbi@thetis.deor.org> Len Sassaman chooses that moment to bring his support to Blue.Jay
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More about the subject will be available http://frogadmin.yi.org/HOS/
Bring it on asswipe. You will have a hell of a lot more trouble than
you are having in Iraq.
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You spelt 'diatribe' wrong, loser.
"Adivdicator" <Adivdicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote in
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Holy Ditribe Batman!
Looky here bub. You got the DANGEROUS part right.
Anyone --any one-- who is an enemy of the United
States of America is sticking their neck out and
handing us a razor. This is World War Three. Any-
one who thinks this is an exercise in philosophy
isn't paying attention. That's all I have to say.
Daniel Joseph Min
"Dan" <twotrickpony@shaw.ca> wrote:
I truly hope I can take your attack personally, Daniel, so as
to
not feel presumptuous in responding, and sticking up for your
'perceived enemies'. I'm a Canadian myself, and despite how
you
*think* I feel about America, or Americans judging by the tone
and content of my own posts (if you were indeed reading them,
and
counting them among your 'examples'), I happen to still harbor
a
few good opinions and sentiments towards both, albeit to a
lesser
degree to that which is opposite. But I am anything but a
vehement Anti-American, hating all America, and all things
American. What I am, I would like to think anyhow, is a
pragmatic
realist.
My intent, believe it or not, is not to stir up the current
wave
of Anti-Americanism sweeping the globe for its *own* sake, as
if
out of some deepseated blind hatred. I assure you, and others
reading this, that it is not. My intent is to point out
certain
facts about your nation and its people that I find not just
distasteful or disturbing, but dangerous, but only because
those
'current' or 'modern' traits (as opposed to 'traditional', or
somehow 'inbred') are impinging upon the rest of the world, my
own nation included, to such a degree as to place us in peril,
one that is needless, self-serving, hypocritical, bullying and
based upon nothing but deception, greed, stupidity, ignorance,
violent-mindedness, and hate. In a word, *evil*.
There is *much* about America that I admire as well. Your
enduring support of Israel since the time of its inception is
truly awesome, and God-inspired (and no, I'm not Jewish-- I'm
Scots-Irish). Without your nations' aid, Israel would have
succumbed to attacks from within and without a long, long time
ago. Your traditional traditions' concerning raw democracy,
fair
play, free speech, standing up for the 'little guy' whether
individual or group, American or otherwise, is, or at least
*was*
truly unique among nations. E Pluribus Unum. These are only a
'few' of the many examples I could give.
As for Americans themselves, I can't say that I've met many
(but
being a border-hugging Canadian living near Vancouver, I can't
be
too sure what their citizenship was), but I have met an
*inordinate* number from that known group that astounded me
with
their kindness, gentleness and graciousness. Equally so, their
apparent ignorance of the world at large (and Canada
specifically). But for the most part, those who would trek
north
of the 49th Parallel are awesome people, and if they have any
foibles, they are benign at worst. As for those Americans who
stay behind, I'll let the average American reader judge their
own
average neighbor, as I've never met them personally. But of
those
that I have met personally, I can only wish that my own
countrymen could exhibit all those characteristics, along with
the typical American boldness and brashness, outspokenness,
and
sheer guts.
If Canadians could only capture the very best as that
exemplified
by our neighbours to the south, we too might be a great
nation.
As it is, we have become *now* a nation of spineless, meek,
self-serving wimps, by and large. At one point we too deserved
to
be respected and admired for the people who we *once* were.
Those
days are now gone. But no matter how much we've degraded
ourselves, we are ultimately benign, irrelevant and truly
worthy
to be dismissed by the rest of the world as a collective
people
and nation. The very fact alone that we have let the Americans
basically take over protecting us from the rest of this
dangerous
world in terms of defense, that without the USA, that such a
nation as the Netherlands could ostensibly take us over in a
fortnight makes me truly ashamed to say to others that I am
Canadian, by itself.
But, as I said, we're benign and harmless to the rest of the
world. We mean absolutely nothing in the Global Scheme of
Things,
not anymore at least. America, on the other hand, has become
the
sole SuperPower of the world. That it became so because of its
being founded upon those original Christian ideals, I
personally
would not doubt whatsoever.
Your great nation, the greatest economic and military power
ever
known in human history (and has been at least since the late
19th
Century) was conceived and born in a cauldron of foreign
oppression, both perpetrated economically and militarily.
Thanks
largely due to the histrionics of a diseased and self-deluded
King George III, you managed to throw off that yoke quite
brilliantly, eloquently and effectively. And you gathered
yourselves together, and pledged to build a nation built upon
basic Christian ideals, loosely translated by the 'pursuit of
life, liberty, and happiness' as defined within the text of
your
very Constitution.
At *that* time, you had the *true spirit*, truly. But as you
grew
as a nation, advancing both economically and militarily, you
came
to a certain point where you stopped being satisfied with what
you were doing within your own borders, and improving the lot
of
your own fellow man with your own over-abundant resource base,
and started looking beyond them, to other nations. By the mid
to
late 1800's, you began to shed off the idea that every nation
has
its own inherent right to decide its own destiny, and began to
proclaim a brand new 'Manifest Destiny' philosophy begun
during
the Monroe Administration, a doctrine that embraced the idea
that
the great burgeoning nation of America had a God-given right
to
enforce its own ideals upon other nations. "Don't Tread on Me"
quickly turned into "Might makes Right", somehow, somewhere
along
the way. "Give me liberty or give me death", by "54' 40 or
fight!". America managed to steal almost half of the British
Columbian coastline during the Yukon Gold Rush, and thanks to
the
Quisling gutless Brits, gave it to them with no argument
whatsoever. Just a case in point, there's been worse examples
of
American travesties before or since that time.
America was now the official 'Big kid on campus', and God help
anybody who got in her (Lady Liberty's) way. You got into
various
'provoked' wars with various nations, and came out owning
various
territories around the globe, such as the Phillippines, Cuba,
wherever the hell you felt like going, in essence. You came,
you
intentionally picked a fight where no quarrel had been, found
grounds to attack, and conquered.
World Wars One and Two come along, and you're suddenly
'isolationist'. Then later, much later, for one reason or
another
you do get personally physically involved, and you 'help' kick
***** so that Europe remains European, and not just
German-occupied
territory. Hats off to America, though; had you not been
there,
this world would look very Japanese and Soviet dominated, in
my
opinion. But you tend to think you did it all that alone, by
yourselves, which does nothing but dishonour to those of other
nations who fell before you in much greater numbers.
No matter. You did good at that stage of history
notwithstanding,
and the entire free world indeed owed you a debt of gratitude
for
your efforts and sacrifice, and afterwards you made damned
sure
that they never forgot how you won those wars by yourselves,
and
how much they owed you *that* debt as well. More historical
revisionism to go along with that part of prior history of
barefaced empirical tyranny quite conveniently forgotten by
you,
the conquerors of the free world, who were now writing the
free
world's history books.
And before leaving that last big honest war, I must point out
that you ended it by dropping not one, but two nukes on
civilian
population centres just to see the effects on human beings
instead of doing a demonstration of your suddenly acquired new
weaponry, such as calling up Mr. Tojo at midnight Tokyo time,
and
saying 'Hey Tojo, ring up your beloved deity Hirohito, and
come
outside and look over Tokyo Harbour!', followed by an awesome
yet
harmless 25,000 foot height firework they'd never forget. I
might
be naive in some respects in that regard, I admit, but at
least
my imagination doesn't involve wondering whether a uranium
bomb
has as much long term effects on people at the 5,000 foot
range
as does one made out of plutonium, etc.
After WWII, thanks to FDR (Churchill probably having no real
say
in the matter) selling out Eastern Europe to the USSR in the
Yalta agreement (heck, this was Europe's war in the first
place,
let them suffer the aftermath), the world was primed to begin
another round of the 'same old', but this time polarized into
two
main camps, the 'free world' headed by the US, and the
Communist
world, headed by the USSR, and soon partnered (of sorts) by
China. And you all went off, continuing your globalized
version
of one big Risk game, gobbling up countries one by one. But
whereas the Soviets were usually much more blunt about how
they
went about the game, the Americans were no less insidious, if
only due to the fact that you had the money, and could buy
whatever, and whomever you pleased to prop up or overthrow
whomever you pleased throughout that 'sphere' of the globe not
yet coloured by 'Red' or 'Yellow'. And so you sowed the seeds
of
their own eventual destruction, at the hands of their outraged
citizenry, sick of the brutality, tortures, rapes and murders
at
the hands of those your nation propped up, vicariously through
economic, military and other 'intelligent' means.
And when those nations, such as Cuba for example, began to
defend
themselves against the one nation responsible for their misery
and current status, you climbed up on your big white horse and
screamed blue bloody murder. How dare they have a few nukes on
their island to defend themselves against us, who have 10,000
and
can thus incinerate them two billion times over!
Whatever the situation, you always made sure that history
would
gloss over the nasty bits that your country played, while
trumpeting the good ones. And dammit, it worked just dandy. As
a
Canadian schoolkid, we were fed the same doggerel as history
as
as you were, albeit to a slightly lesser degree.
And your cultural influence, via mainly television, took over
the
rest of the job where our textbooks and teachers left off. It
wasn't until your own citizenry took up arms during Vietnam
that
all of us in the free world *also* scratched our collective
little heads and said, 'Hmmmm...'. Perhaps President Dwight
(Ike)
Eisenhower's farewell address to the nation, warning his
fellow
Americans of the vast and insidious 'military-industrial
complex'
that *actually* pulled the strings in government had some
merit
after all, but nobody, least of all Americans themselves
listened
to the former World War II military leader.
Watergate shocked the world with the ugly reality of how
corrupt
and evil the American Executive can become, and after it
finally
ended it was hoped against hope that America would embark on a
new era of being the 'Good Superman' once again, using its
power
for good, and not evil. Yeah, like that lasted long. To me,
your
best shining moment in modern times was best shown during the
Carter Administration, and how it set about to truly bring
peace
and harmony in many hotspots of the world, not just the Middle
East. Unfortunately, he got bitten in the ***** by Iran, another
Frankenstein Monster created by Dr. USA's shenanigans. Enter
Reagan, who would quickly forget and dump the nation's
newfound
'humility', and who would go on to play havoc in Central
America
and elsewhere, then comes Bush Sr. who would have to face
another
Frankenstein Monster his country created, called Iraq.
I shouldn't have to remind anyone over the age of 18 with
sufficient intelligence and education (schooled or
self-taught)
as to how America created the mess that became modern Iraq,
just
another monster created by the good ol' USA coming back to
haunt
it. If you still require a history lesson, I'll be more than
happy to fill you in.
Then comes 9/11, and such countries as CANADA and others
joined
the US in invading Afghanistan to go after the Taliban and
Osama's crew, one of the few righteous causes America ever got
itself involved in. Then, sometime around August 2002, while
still fighting against the bad guys and rounding them up there
and shipping them off to Cuba, Dubya starts making sudden and
ominous noises about Iraq, how it posed a 'clear and present
danger' to America, seemingly just as much as Afghanistan not
even a year earlier.
Now, be honest with yourselves, my American cousins. How many
of
you asked yourself from that point until he actually sent in
the
troops the question, "Why Iraq, why **now**?? Nothing,
absolutely
nothing changed between the time the coalition forces left
after
the Gulf War and Saddam started thumbing his nose at UN
weapons
inspectors in the mid-1990's and that point. Nothing that is,
except the inauguration of one George W. Bush.
His agenda from the very beginning, dictated to him from the
very
ilk that surrounded his daddy Bush Sr., was to secure the oil
fields of Iraq. No more, and no less. As to who these people
are,
what walks of life they hail from, what their current
positions
of power are, I do not know, as I am not a 'conspiracy
theorist'
at heart. But I can tell you, they exist, and they have an
agenda
of their own, and they are the ones who decide the fate of
nations and peoples around the world, save a few, such as
China,
from where the 200 million 'mounted troops' of the Book of
Revelation will advance towards the same oilfields now
controlled
by the US. You can deny the truth until you're blue in the
face,
which would be typical of the typical American citizen. But my
rage isn't against them, they're just people (or sheeple, as
some
put it in this ng). It is against those elite around the
world,
but mainly centred in the US, who pull the actual strings of
power on this planet.
And one day, very soon now, on April 18, 2004 in fact, there
will
come one *already known* from among their midst, who will step
up
to the plate, and assume his God-allowed anciently prophesied
pre-ordained command post. I don't know by what name he will
go
by, or what his appearance will be. But we will all see him,
no
doubt. I don't think he will have any 'title' such as
President,
or Secretary-General as such, but he will be acknowledged as
de
facto leader of that global elite, although to the rest of the
world, something else entirely, not so malignant and evil. He
will be the great Benefactor of Mankind, without any apparent
power of himself, but more powerful in actuality than anyone
in
history. He will be given the power to subdue all enemies that
stand in his way, both individuals and entire nations, three
of
them as a matter of prophetic fact. Not by military might,
necessarily, mind you, but subdue them he will. For more
information as to how he will go about doing what he will do,
consult Daniel 7:8-28, 8:9-27, 9:26-27, 11:21-45, Revelation
13-19 and various other places in prophetic endtime Scripture.
And that beast, the Antichrist and the 'Global Elite' he runs
probably even now, will be ridden upon by the drunken harlot,
MYSTERY BABYLON.
'Mystery Babylon' my friends, is not the Roman Catholic Church
(my own adopted church, btw; I was previously fundamentalist
Protestant seven years ago), it's not Rome, or the Pope,
(although I believe the False Prophet will become one himself
on
April 18, 2004), and it ain't no little old lady in Pasadena
either.
It is the United States of America today. Just as much as your
political, economic, and militarial might has enveloped the
world, so too has your 'culture'. As to when it began to
infect
other nations remains a matter of debate, but I'd pinpoint it
at
about the same time as your 'Manifest Destiny'
political/military
doctrine began. You came, you saw, you conquered, you infected
the world with your value system. Not all of it was evil mind
you, especially at the beginning. But you made the rest of the
nations so stupefied and mesmerized at the same time by your
outrageous but fascinating 'ways' that you have been leading
us
all by our nose rings ever since. And, as time progressed, as
you
degraded into the cesspool of absolute evil you have obviously
become, we duly followed suit, blinded by your multi-coloured
neon flashing 'lights', and pounding rhythmic drum beat. Not a
single nation, especially now with the Internet, is immune to
it.
It may not be the longest running freakshow this planet has
ever
known, as the Roman Empire may have dibs on that record, but
it
certainly is the most powerful. Stirring echoes of Daniel and
Revelation ringing in your head are purely intended.
Jesus wasn't telling us to beware of some worldwide church now
in
its very death throes, the RC church, abandoned by the masses
virtually everywhere, but of that which caused it to become as
much. American culture spread worldwide. Pure and simple,
believe
it or not.
America, the once beautiful virgin, founded upon true
Christian
ideals and values, has become a drunken harlot. You have
turned
your back on God in so many ways, and in such a deep manner,
and
so quickly as to defy reason itself.
America has been prophesied to become the heart, mind, and
very
seat of the Antichrist, until he and his other nations have no
further use for you, and in the space of one literal hour, you
will become ash.
You think I'm Anti-American, Daniel? You ought to ask God what
He
thinks of you, your President, your culture, and your nation.
For
more information on what is going to happen to New York City
specifically, and America in general in the next seven months,
read Revelation, chapters 17 and 18. From one Daniel to
another,
from your northern cousin, mark my words well. You think 9/11
was
horrific? Grab some popcorn, and enjoy the 'Feature
Presentation'
folks.
So go right ahead and boycott our Canadian side bacon. What
with
your beloved President Bush already having reneged on the
North
American Free Trade Agreement on lumber, steel, produce, etc.
ad
nauseam to us and many other nations, all the while drumming
up
similar 'deals' in South America, there's nothing more you
bastards can do to us than you've already done. And as
Daarksyde
said, if you suddenly decide to become violent, I'll be ready
for
ya, and the first one of you ignorant shitheads I meet coming
up
here with your guns is you, the very *worst* epitome of a
citizen
your sick nation could possibly offer.
"Justice is issued forth from the barrel of a gun"
--Chairman Mao Tse-tung (1893-1976)
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2004/01/03 (contact <abuse@cotse.com>) Blue.Jay celebrates
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2004/01/19 <rabbi@thetis.deor.org> Len Sassaman chooses that
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More about the subject will be available
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02 Mar 2004 11:13:34 PM |
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"Dan" <twotrickpony@shaw.ca> squawked:
You spelt 'diatribe' wrong, loser.
"Justice is issued forth from the barrel of a gun"
--Chairman Mao Tse-tung (1893-1976)
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Some people hate this remailer so badly that, for example, they did not hesitate to celebrate the death of 148 French tourists in a plane crash.
Those people seceded from the human race, so don't hesitate to report them directly to the police.
2004/01/03 (contact <abuse@cotse.com>) Blue.Jay celebrates
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2004/01/19 <rabbi@thetis.deor.org> Len Sassaman chooses that moment to bring his support to Blue.Jay
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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03 Mar 2004 04:27:50 PM |
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Adjvdikator <Adjvdikator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote in message news:<HFGPBVOP38049.2586574074@Gilgamesh-Frog.org>...
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"Justice is issued forth from the barrel of a gun"
--Chairman Mao Tse-tung (1893-1976)
I thought it was "the path to power lies down the barrel of gun"
Are you doing anything for your misanthropy?
LB @:}-
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| User: "Dan" |
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| Title: Re: You're History *****! |
03 Mar 2004 01:58:56 AM |
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At least I will *possibly* rank a possible obscure reference in
some footnote in some imagined future history book...
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| User: "Dan" |
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02 Mar 2004 11:21:47 PM |
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You want my actual address? You dickless wonder? Already posted;
look for it, lugan. And *then really* make me history. Don't *****
with a ***** Canadian, you American pipsqueak. When
cornered, and trained for combat, we strike to kill, and have
never known to take prisoner.
You're about as terrifying as a wet fart goofball
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| User: "DaarkSyde" |
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03 Mar 2004 07:37:18 AM |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 05:21:47 GMT, "Dan" <twotrickpony@shaw.ca> wrote:
You want my actual address? You dickless wonder? Already posted;
look for it, lugan. And *then really* make me history. Don't *****
with a ***** Canadian, you American pipsqueak. When
cornered, and trained for combat, we strike to kill, and have
never known to take prisoner.
You're about as terrifying as a wet fart goofball
Not to worry Dan he will fade away just like the rest of the cowards
who can't handle the truth.
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