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Topic:	Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User:	"TonyZ2001"
Date:	08 Jan 2005 10:42:59 AM
Object:	Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape

Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - An Iraqi militant suspected of involvement in beheadings
and other bloody attacks told Iraqi authorities that his group has links with
Iran and Syria, according to a tape aired Friday by an Arabic TV station funded
by the U.S. government.
Moayad Ahmed Yasseen, leader of Jaish Muhammad, which is Arabic for Muhammad's
Army, was captured nearly two months ago in Fallujah, the former guerrilla
stronghold west of Baghdad.
Alhurra television, which has its headquarters in Washington, said the tape of
his purported confession was made Dec. 24 and provided to the station by Iraq's
Ministry of Defense.
Iraqi and U.S. officials, including President Bush, have accused Syria and Iran
of meddling in Iraq's affairs and aiding insurgents, a charge both nations
vehmently deny. Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said last week that Iraq's
patience was running out with countries that support the insurgency.
On the tape, Yasseen, a colonel in Saddam Hussein's army, said two other former
Iraqi military officers belonging to his group were sent "to Iran in April or
May, where they met a number of Iranian intelligence officials." He said they
also met with Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
He said Iranian officials provided money, weapons "and, as far as I know, even
car bombs" for Jaish Muhammad.
Yasseen also said he got permission from Saddam - while the former dictator was
in hiding after his ouster by the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 - to cross into
Syria and meet with a Syrian intelligence officer to ask for money and weapons.
He didn't say if the request was met.
The U.S. military has said Jaish Muhammad appears to be an umbrella group for
former Iraqi intelligence agents, army officers, security officials and members
of Saddam's Baath Party.
The group is known to have cooperated with Jordanian terrorist leader Abu Musab
al-Zarqawi as well as other Saddam loyalists and al-Qaida supporters. Allawi
has accused Jaish Muhammad of killing and beheading a number of Iraqis, Arabs
and foreigners in Iraq.
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User: "thelasian"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	08 Jan 2005 03:53:04 PM

Iran has everything to gain from a stable secure and democratic Iraq,
and Iranian leaders have repeatedly urged the Iraqis to participate in
the up-coming elections ,even though some of the Iraqis themselves are
opposed to it!:
"Pachachi, a secular Arab leader who was foreign minister before Saddam
Hussein came to power, said he found it strange that the United States
and Iran - ostensibly enemies - both agreed that Iraq's election had to
happen next month..."
(Reuters 23 December '04)
As for to oh-so-convenient "foreign fighters" mythology (scape-goat):
How convenient -- the failures of the Neocons vision in Iraq are
someone else's fault!
The really funny thing is that Saddam also used similar "taped
confessions".
FACTS:
Insurgents Are Mostly Iraqis, U.S. Military Says
Los Angeles Times Tue Sep 28, 2004
WASHINGTON - The insistence by interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad
Allawi and many U.S. officials that foreign fighters are streaming
into Iraq to battle American troops runs counter to the U.S.
military's own assessment that the Iraqi insurgency remains primarily
a home-grown problem...
Few foreign fighters found in Iraq
UPI Wednesday, 19-Nov-2003
BAGHDAD, Nov. 19 (UPI) -- U.S. military leaders say there is little
evidence of foreign fighters from Syria, Turkey and Iran in Iraq.
"Most of the attacks on our forces are by former regime loyalists and
other Iraqis, not foreign forces," said Maj. Gen. Charles H. Swannack
Jr., commander of the 82nd Airborne Division....The generals' remarks
don't concur with Bush administration estimates of last month, when
the number of foreign fighters was pegged between 1,000 and 3,000, the
New York Times reported Wednesday...
Foreign detainees are few in Iraq
By Peter Eisler and Tom Squitieri
USA TODAY 7/5/2004
Suspected foreign fighters account for less than 2% of the 5,700
captives being held as security threats in Iraq, a strong indication
that Iraqis are largely responsible for...
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User: "TonyZ2001"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	09 Jan 2005 06:02:06 AM

"thelasian"

wrote:

Iran has everything to gain from a stable >secure and democratic Iraq,

Man are you ever clueless.
Tony
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User: "WH"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	09 Jan 2005 10:01:18 AM

TonyZ2001 wrote:

"thelasian"

wrote:

Iran has everything to gain from a stable >secure and democratic

Iraq,

Man are you ever clueless.

Tony

Another fantastic "full of counter argument" reply from pantyboy.
You're welcome to elaborate pantyboy...you know...reveal to us all just
why someone, in this case thelasien, is "clueless".
I bet you can't...and guess what, that makes you the "clueless" one!
Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for forgivness
for being such an ignorant filthy racist!
WH
WH
.

User: "Dani"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	09 Jan 2005 02:39:02 PM

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for forgivness
for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

I'm planning on donating as much as I can ASAP. I'll have to wait a
week (which truly sucks because I have the dreaded imagine in my
mind of the people suffering and I want to help *now*) - but I'll be
able to give more in a week.
Dani

User: "WH"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	10 Jan 2005 03:08:16 AM

Dani wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for

forgivness

for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Just keep any donations out of the freaky religious charities. They're
untrustworthy and have a reputation for using aid to convert disaster
victims to their particular brand of religion...you know: "We'll give
you and your family aid IF you convert" type of thing. Usually freaky
born again Christians.
WH
.

User: "Dani"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	12 Jan 2005 07:51:44 PM

On 10 Jan 2005 01:08:16 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dani wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for

forgivness

for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Oh I'm well aware of that (you know how I feel about those born-again
freaks).
Do you have 100% guaranteed reputable source/address I can give my
donation to? Just something that you'd recommend? Or Woods if you're
reading this? I just want to be *sure* ..and I trust you guys.
Thanks,
Dani

User: "Woodswun"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	18 Jan 2005 04:46:35 PM

Dani wrote:

On 10 Jan 2005 01:08:16 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dani wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for

forgivness

for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Oh I'm well aware of that (you know how I feel about those born-again
freaks).

Do you have 100% guaranteed reputable source/address I can give my
donation to? Just something that you'd recommend? Or Woods if you're
reading this? I just want to be *sure* ..and I trust you guys.

UNICEF and Mercy Corps are both good choices. I'm sure there are
others, but those are my own person top 2 (for this particular case).
Woods
.

User: "WH"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	13 Jan 2005 07:46:24 AM

Dani wrote:

On 10 Jan 2005 01:08:16 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dani wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims

the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for

forgivness

for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

I'm planning on donating as much as I can ASAP. I'll have to wait

week (which truly sucks because I have the dreaded imagine in my
mind of the people suffering and I want to help *now*) - but I'll

able to give more in a week.

Just keep any donations out of the freaky religious charities.

They're

untrustworthy and have a reputation for using aid to convert

disaster

victims to their particular brand of religion...you know: "We'll

give

you and your family aid IF you convert" type of thing. Usually

freaky

born again Christians.

Oh I'm well aware of that (you know how I feel about those born-again
freaks).

Do you have 100% guaranteed reputable source/address I can give my
donation to? Just something that you'd recommend? Or Woods if

you're

reading this? I just want to be *sure* ..and I trust you guys.

Thanks,

Dani

I certainly don't know what charities you have in America that you can
trust. If in doubt I'de recommend UNICEF. United Nations childrens
fund. They are not religious freaks :-) far from it. I know that the
American Red Cross and the International Red Cross are not the same
organisation and that the American Red Cross will take about 50% of
what you donate towards their "running costs" i.e. wages and that like
for their workers. By the time the donation gets to the people it was
intended for there's close to *****-all left.
Have a look round...find out exactly how much of your donation will be
used for running costs etc., and that way you'll find the best place to
give it.
....and good for you Dani!
WH
.

User: "Woodswun"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	09 Jan 2005 07:13:39 PM

In article <b753u09sf0kno1917q81b00fqa5n812vpi@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for forgivness
for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Look very carefully into which charity you donate to - some of them aren't that
great. (IIRC, for example, I believe the Red Cross took some flack for
diverting 9/11 funds to other items that donors didn't want them to go for as
they had donated specifically for 9/11 relief efforts).
Woods
.

User: "MonsieurStat"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	10 Jan 2005 06:02:07 AM

"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:7FkEd.137540$AL5.135852@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

In article <b753u09sf0kno1917q81b00fqa5n812vpi@4ax.com>, Dani
<dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for forgivness
for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Look very carefully into which charity you donate to - some of them aren't
that
great. (IIRC, for example, I believe the Red Cross took some flack for
diverting 9/11 funds to other items that donors didn't want them to go for
as
they had donated specifically for 9/11 relief efforts).

Also make sure the organization is not connected in any way or form to
Isalmists, or Bush could strip you of your citizenship, lock you up and
throw away the key.
Stat.

Woods

User: "Dani"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	12 Jan 2005 08:37:37 PM

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:02:07 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:

"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:7FkEd.137540$AL5.135852@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

In article <b753u09sf0kno1917q81b00fqa5n812vpi@4ax.com>, Dani
<dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for forgivness
for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Look very carefully into which charity you donate to - some of them aren't
that
great. (IIRC, for example, I believe the Red Cross took some flack for
diverting 9/11 funds to other items that donors didn't want them to go for
as
they had donated specifically for 9/11 relief efforts).

Also make sure the organization is not connected in any way or form to
Isalmists, or Bush could strip you of your citizenship, lock you up and
throw away the key.

I'm getting confused here. Could someone please give me a proper
(authentic) address (Woods in particular.. nothing against you Stat,
but I really don't know who you are).
Thanks,
Dani

Stat.

Woods

User: "MonsieurStat"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	12 Jan 2005 11:47:39 PM

"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:amnbu0lrhn3o416p07mr8cd0salruk53d4@4ax.com...

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:02:07 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:

"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:7FkEd.137540$AL5.135852@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

In article <b753u09sf0kno1917q81b00fqa5n812vpi@4ax.com>, Dani
<dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 9 Jan 2005 08:01:18 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:

Now go put a few sheckels into the collection box for the victims of
the Asian disaster you miserable fucker and beg your God for forgivness
for being such an ignorant filthy racist!

Look very carefully into which charity you donate to - some of them
aren't
that
great. (IIRC, for example, I believe the Red Cross took some flack for
diverting 9/11 funds to other items that donors didn't want them to go
for
as
they had donated specifically for 9/11 relief efforts).

Also make sure the organization is not connected in any way or form to
Isalmists, or Bush could strip you of your citizenship, lock you up and
throw away the key.

I'm getting confused here. Could someone please give me a proper
(authentic) address (Woods in particular.. nothing against you Stat,
but I really don't know who you are).

Fair enough but you know I'll give you my advice anyways :-)
KEEP YOUR MONEY!
I have a couple of friends who work for NGOs. They both been on many
missions around the globe. Last year, after the Bam EQ in Iran I asked them
exactly the same question you're asking now, and they both said what I just
told you: Keep your money!
I know you mean well and want to do some good. Unfortunately, your money has
very little chance of being spent for it's intended use. So here's my
advice: Use the money to help someone in your city. Go to a local
organization for the poor, check them out and make a donation to them if you
feel they are legit. You'll be almost sure that your generosity really helps
someone. The good old - think globally, act locally - approach. If you feel
you must absolutely do something for the victims of the tsunami, get deeply
involved in politics. Send a letter to your congressman. Organize a walk.
Start preparing to run for president. Better still, try to get elected to
the Congress. I think you are more apt to become a Congresswoman than
President (no offense). It's because the Congress represents the people. The
Whitehouse represents the bourgeoisie. The Supreme Court the aristocracy. I
see you more as a people's person than a corporate girl :-)
Stat.

Thanks,

Dani

Stat.

Woods

User: "Woodswun"
Title: Re: Insurgent admits Iran, Syria links on tape	18 Jan 2005 04:45:13 PM