Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it
is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy
America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the
world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists
and western missile industry experts.
The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine
if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear
warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in
high-altitude flight.
Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William
R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than
preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons – even
one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and
technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S.
back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.
Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as
it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a
strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph
Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter
published by WND's founder.
Just last month, Congress heard testimony about the use of such
weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.
Iran has surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight
detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as
"successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for
this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of
Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market.
They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 apiece.
"A terrorist organization might have trouble putting a nuclear warhead
'on target' with a Scud, but it would be much easier to simply launch
and detonate in the atmosphere," wrote Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., in the
Washington Post a week ago. "No need for the risk and difficulty of
trying to smuggle a nuclear weapon over the border or hit a particular
city. Just launch a cheap missile from a freighter in international
waters – al-Qaida is believed to own about 80 such vessels – and make
sure to get it a few miles in the air."
The Iranian missile tests were more sophisticated and capable of
detonation at higher elevations – making them more dangerous.
Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental
U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country – knocking out
electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic
communications impotent.
While Iran still insists officially in talks currently underway with
the European Union that it is only developing nuclear power for
peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests
persuade U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran
can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability
of at least one nuclear warhead.
Some analysts believe the stage of Iranian missile developments
suggests Iranian scientists will move toward the production of
weapons-grade nuclear material shortly as soon as its nuclear reactor
in Busher is operative.
Jerome Corsi, author of "Atomic Iran," told WorldNetDaily the new
findings about Iran's Electromagnetic Pulse experiments significantly
raise the stakes of the mullah regime's bid to become a nuclear power.
"Up until now, I believed the nuclear threat to the U.S. from Iran was
limited to the ability of terrorists to penetrate the borders or port
security to deliver a device to a major city," he said. "While that
threat should continue to be a grave concern for every American, these
tests by Iran demonstrate just how devious the fanatical mullahs in
Tehran are. We are facing a clever and unscrupulous adversary in Iran
that could bring America to its knees."
Earlier this week, Iran's top nuclear official said Europe must heed
an Iranian proposal on uranium enrichment or risk a collapse of the
talks.
The warning by Hassan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security
Council, came as diplomats from Britain, France and Germany began
talks with their Iranian counterparts in Geneva, ahead of a more
senior-level meeting in London set for April 29. Enrichment produces
fuel for nuclear reactors, which can also be used in the explosive
core of nuclear bombs.
"The Europeans should tell us whether these ideas can work as the
basis for continued negotiations or not," Rowhani said, referring to
the Iranian proposal put forward last month that would allow some
uranium enrichment. "If yes, fine. If not, then the negotiations
cannot continue," he said.
Some analysts believe Iran is using the negotiations merely to buy
time for further development of the nuclear program.
The U.S. plans, according to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to
allow the EU talks to continue before deciding this summer to push for
United Nations sanctions against Iran.
Last month, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology
and Homeland Security chaired by Kyl, held a hearing on the
Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP, threat.
"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said
one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is
one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its
enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the
easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon,
detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's
atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the
surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of
the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power
grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the
continental United States, for months if not years."
The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not
to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He
serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the
United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science
adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.
Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran
to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the
planning of an EMP-style attack.
"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested
such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy
less likely than the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S.
city.
A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries
have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a
high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A
determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without
having a high level of sophistication."
"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at
risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover
the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon.
It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical
infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well
as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project
influence and military power."
The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in
all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical
infrastructures," explained the report.
"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity
and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as
catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the
commission, told members of Congress.
The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening
sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our
military forces."
"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the
United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere
and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation
down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the
Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect.
The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from
the damage that 'shocked' – upset, damaged and destroyed – electronics
controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The
indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."
The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners.
The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of
super-weapon against the U.S.
"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats
are difficult to deter – they can be terrorist groups that have no
state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to
attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the
commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may
also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United
States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."
Graham describes the potential "cascading effect" of an EMP attack. If
electrical power is knocked out and circuit boards fried,
telecommunications are disrupted, energy deliveries are impeded, the
financial system breaks down, food, water and gasoline become scarce.
As Kyl put it: "Few if any people would die right away. But the loss
of power would have a cascading effect on all aspects of U.S. society.
Communication would be largely impossible. Lack of refrigeration would
leave food rotting in warehouses, exacerbated by a lack of
transportation as those vehicles still working simply ran out of gas
(which is pumped with electricity). The inability to sanitize and
distribute water would quickly threaten public health, not to mention
the safety of anyone in the path of the inevitable fires, which would
rage unchecked. And as we have seen in areas of natural and other
disasters, such circumstances often result in a fairly rapid breakdown
of social order."
"American society has grown so dependent on computer and other
electrical systems that we have created our own Achilles' heel of
vulnerability, ironically much greater than those of other, less
developed nations," the senator wrote. "When deprived of power, we are
in many ways helpless, as the New York City blackout made clear. In
that case, power was restored quickly because adjacent areas could
provide help. But a large-scale burnout caused by a broad EMP attack
would create a much more difficult situation. Not only would there be
nobody nearby to help, it could take years to replace destroyed
equipment."
The commission said hardening key infrastructure systems and procuring
vital backup equipment such as transformers is both feasible and –
compared with the threat – relatively inexpensive.
"But it will take leadership by the Department of Homeland Security,
the Defense Department, and other federal agencies, along with support
from Congress, all of which have yet to materialize," wrote Kyl, so
far the only elected official blowing the whistle this alarming
development.
Kyl concluded in his report: "The Sept. 11 commission report stated
that our biggest failure was one of 'imagination.' No one imagined
that terrorists would do what they did on Sept. 11. Today few
Americans can conceive of the possibility that terrorists could bring
our society to its knees by destroying everything we rely on that runs
on electricity. But this time we've been warned, and we'd better be
prepared to respond."
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Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNutDaily.com
'Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb' is it?
Why, I ask, would they go to the trouble of using a nuclear bomb then
pantyboy. All they have to do is attack with bananas and you lot would
be fucked. You're all far too fat and lazy to offer any resistance. The
fuckin' Isle of Man would probably win if they attacked you. All the
fit yanks have been shipped out to occupy Iraq and kill their citizens.
WH
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| User: "Charly the Bastard" |
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26 Apr 2005 01:32:42 PM |
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And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it
is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy
America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the
world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists
and western missile industry experts.
The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine
if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear
warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in
high-altitude flight.
Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William
R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than
preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons – even
one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and
technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S.
back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.
Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as
it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a
strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph
Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter
published by WND's founder.
Just last month, Congress heard testimony about the use of such
weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.
Iran has surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight
detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as
"successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for
this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of
Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market.
They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 apiece.
"A terrorist organization might have trouble putting a nuclear warhead
'on target' with a Scud, but it would be much easier to simply launch
and detonate in the atmosphere," wrote Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., in the
Washington Post a week ago. "No need for the risk and difficulty of
trying to smuggle a nuclear weapon over the border or hit a particular
city. Just launch a cheap missile from a freighter in international
waters – al-Qaida is believed to own about 80 such vessels – and make
sure to get it a few miles in the air."
The Iranian missile tests were more sophisticated and capable of
detonation at higher elevations – making them more dangerous.
Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental
U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country – knocking out
electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic
communications impotent.
While Iran still insists officially in talks currently underway with
the European Union that it is only developing nuclear power for
peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests
persuade U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran
can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability
of at least one nuclear warhead.
Some analysts believe the stage of Iranian missile developments
suggests Iranian scientists will move toward the production of
weapons-grade nuclear material shortly as soon as its nuclear reactor
in Busher is operative.
Jerome Corsi, author of "Atomic Iran," told WorldNetDaily the new
findings about Iran's Electromagnetic Pulse experiments significantly
raise the stakes of the mullah regime's bid to become a nuclear power.
"Up until now, I believed the nuclear threat to the U.S. from Iran was
limited to the ability of terrorists to penetrate the borders or port
security to deliver a device to a major city," he said. "While that
threat should continue to be a grave concern for every American, these
tests by Iran demonstrate just how devious the fanatical mullahs in
Tehran are. We are facing a clever and unscrupulous adversary in Iran
that could bring America to its knees."
Earlier this week, Iran's top nuclear official said Europe must heed
an Iranian proposal on uranium enrichment or risk a collapse of the
talks.
The warning by Hassan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security
Council, came as diplomats from Britain, France and Germany began
talks with their Iranian counterparts in Geneva, ahead of a more
senior-level meeting in London set for April 29. Enrichment produces
fuel for nuclear reactors, which can also be used in the explosive
core of nuclear bombs.
"The Europeans should tell us whether these ideas can work as the
basis for continued negotiations or not," Rowhani said, referring to
the Iranian proposal put forward last month that would allow some
uranium enrichment. "If yes, fine. If not, then the negotiations
cannot continue," he said.
Some analysts believe Iran is using the negotiations merely to buy
time for further development of the nuclear program.
The U.S. plans, according to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to
allow the EU talks to continue before deciding this summer to push for
United Nations sanctions against Iran.
Last month, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology
and Homeland Security chaired by Kyl, held a hearing on the
Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP, threat.
"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said
one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is
one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its
enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the
easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon,
detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's
atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the
surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of
the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power
grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the
continental United States, for months if not years."
The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not
to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He
serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the
United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science
adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.
Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran
to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the
planning of an EMP-style attack.
"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested
such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy
less likely than the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S.
city.
A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries
have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a
high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A
determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without
having a high level of sophistication."
"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at
risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover
the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon.
It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical
infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well
as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project
influence and military power."
The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in
all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical
infrastructures," explained the report.
"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity
and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as
catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the
commission, told members of Congress.
The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening
sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our
military forces."
"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the
United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere
and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation
down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the
Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect.
The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from
the damage that 'shocked' – upset, damaged and destroyed – electronics
controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The
indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."
The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners.
The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of
super-weapon against the U.S.
"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats
are difficult to deter – they can be terrorist groups that have no
state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to
attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the
commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may
also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United
States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."
Graham describes the potential "cascading effect" of an EMP attack. If
electrical power is knocked out and circuit boards fried,
telecommunications are disrupted, energy deliveries are impeded, the
financial system breaks down, food, water and gasoline become scarce.
As Kyl put it: "Few if any people would die right away. But the loss
of power would have a cascading effect on all aspects of U.S. society.
Communication would be largely impossible. Lack of refrigeration would
leave food rotting in warehouses, exacerbated by a lack of
transportation as those vehicles still working simply ran out of gas
(which is pumped with electricity). The inability to sanitize and
distribute water would quickly threaten public health, not to mention
the safety of anyone in the path of the inevitable fires, which would
rage unchecked. And as we have seen in areas of natural and other
disasters, such circumstances often result in a fairly rapid breakdown
of social order."
"American society has grown so dependent on computer and other
electrical systems that we have created our own Achilles' heel of
vulnerability, ironically much greater than those of other, less
developed nations," the senator wrote. "When deprived of power, we are
in many ways helpless, as the New York City blackout made clear. In
that case, power was restored quickly because adjacent areas could
provide help. But a large-scale burnout caused by a broad EMP attack
would create a much more difficult situation. Not only would there be
nobody nearby to help, it could take years to replace destroyed
equipment."
The commission said hardening key infrastructure systems and procuring
vital backup equipment such as transformers is both feasible and –
compared with the threat – relatively inexpensive.
"But it will take leadership by the Department of Homeland Security,
the Defense Department, and other federal agencies, along with support
from Congress, all of which have yet to materialize," wrote Kyl, so
far the only elected official blowing the whistle this alarming
development.
Kyl concluded in his report: "The Sept. 11 commission report stated
that our biggest failure was one of 'imagination.' No one imagined
that terrorists would do what they did on Sept. 11. Today few
Americans can conceive of the possibility that terrorists could bring
our society to its knees by destroying everything we rely on that runs
on electricity. But this time we've been warned, and we'd better be
prepared to respond."
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
They dont have to explode it directly over the
USA, just get within a few hundred miles, then
detonate.
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04 May 2005 05:25:06 AM |
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"Charles Newman" <charlesnewman1@comcast.net.spammers.will.be.shot.on.sight>
wrote in message news:ocKdnfTtfpo7POXfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:426E8929.3ABE4C6C@worldnet.att.net...
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine
of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's
a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
They dont have to explode it directly over the
USA
Actually they do. Of course, it wodul be an extremely wasteful use of a
weapon assuming they had the technology to do it. One nuke isn't going to
produce a big enough EMP to do anything other than local damage. IOf you
have teh warhead and teh delivery system, you'd do far better to just dump
the fucker on Manhattan. Actually, you'd do far better to truck it into
manhattan and set it off, dispensing with the difficult rocket science bits.
For the millionth fuckingtime.
, just get within a few hundred miles, then
detonate.
See above.
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Tommy The Transsexual Clown wrote:
"Charles Newman" <charlesnewman1@comcast.net.spammers.will.be.shot.on.sight>
wrote in message news:ocKdnfTtfpo7POXfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:426E8929.3ABE4C6C@worldnet.att.net...
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine
of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's
a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
They dont have to explode it directly over the
USA
IOf you
have teh warhead and teh delivery system,
What language are you typing in?
Tony
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
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Tommy The Transsexual Clown wrote:
"Charles Newman"
<charlesnewman1@comcast.net.spammers.will.be.shot.on.sight>
wrote in message news:ocKdnfTtfpo7POXfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:426E8929.3ABE4C6C@worldnet.att.net...
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular
engine
of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic.
It's
a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range
of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
They dont have to explode it directly over the
USA
IOf you
have teh warhead and teh delivery system,
What language are you typing in?
What language has "grammer" , Bitchtits?
Tony
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Charly The Bastrad wrote:
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
That's where you're wrong.
All it takes is a mobileSCUD launcher on a barge, tanker etc. in the
Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.
Tony
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it
is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy
America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the
world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists
and western missile industry experts.
The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine
if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear
warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in
high-altitude flight.
Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William
R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than
preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons – even
one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and
technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S.
back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.
Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as
it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a
strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph
Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter
published by WND's founder.
Just last month, Congress heard testimony about the use of such
weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.
Iran has surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight
detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as
"successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for
this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of
Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market.
They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 apiece.
"A terrorist organization might have trouble putting a nuclear warhead
'on target' with a Scud, but it would be much easier to simply launch
and detonate in the atmosphere," wrote Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., in the
Washington Post a week ago. "No need for the risk and difficulty of
trying to smuggle a nuclear weapon over the border or hit a particular
city. Just launch a cheap missile from a freighter in international
waters – al-Qaida is believed to own about 80 such vessels – and make
sure to get it a few miles in the air."
The Iranian missile tests were more sophisticated and capable of
detonation at higher elevations – making them more dangerous.
Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental
U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country – knocking out
electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic
communications impotent.
While Iran still insists officially in talks currently underway with
the European Union that it is only developing nuclear power for
peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests
persuade U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran
can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability
of at least one nuclear warhead.
Some analysts believe the stage of Iranian missile developments
suggests Iranian scientists will move toward the production of
weapons-grade nuclear material shortly as soon as its nuclear reactor
in Busher is operative.
Jerome Corsi, author of "Atomic Iran," told WorldNetDaily the new
findings about Iran's Electromagnetic Pulse experiments significantly
raise the stakes of the mullah regime's bid to become a nuclear power.
"Up until now, I believed the nuclear threat to the U.S. from Iran was
limited to the ability of terrorists to penetrate the borders or port
security to deliver a device to a major city," he said. "While that
threat should continue to be a grave concern for every American, these
tests by Iran demonstrate just how devious the fanatical mullahs in
Tehran are. We are facing a clever and unscrupulous adversary in Iran
that could bring America to its knees."
Earlier this week, Iran's top nuclear official said Europe must heed
an Iranian proposal on uranium enrichment or risk a collapse of the
talks.
The warning by Hassan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security
Council, came as diplomats from Britain, France and Germany began
talks with their Iranian counterparts in Geneva, ahead of a more
senior-level meeting in London set for April 29. Enrichment produces
fuel for nuclear reactors, which can also be used in the explosive
core of nuclear bombs.
"The Europeans should tell us whether these ideas can work as the
basis for continued negotiations or not," Rowhani said, referring to
the Iranian proposal put forward last month that would allow some
uranium enrichment. "If yes, fine. If not, then the negotiations
cannot continue," he said.
Some analysts believe Iran is using the negotiations merely to buy
time for further development of the nuclear program.
The U.S. plans, according to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to
allow the EU talks to continue before deciding this summer to push for
United Nations sanctions against Iran.
Last month, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology
and Homeland Security chaired by Kyl, held a hearing on the
Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP, threat.
"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said
one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is
one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its
enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the
easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon,
detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's
atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the
surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of
the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power
grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the
continental United States, for months if not years."
The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not
to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He
serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the
United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science
adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.
Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran
to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the
planning of an EMP-style attack.
"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested
such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy
less likely than the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S.
city.
A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries
have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a
high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A
determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without
having a high level of sophistication."
"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at
risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover
the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon.
It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical
infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well
as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project
influence and military power."
The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in
all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical
infrastructures," explained the report.
"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity
and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as
catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the
commission, told members of Congress.
The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening
sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our
military forces."
"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the
United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere
and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation
down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the
Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect.
The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from
the damage that 'shocked' – upset, damaged and destroyed – electronics
controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The
indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."
The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners.
The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of
super-weapon against the U.S.
"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats
are difficult to deter – they can be terrorist groups that have no
state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to
attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the
commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may
also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United
States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."
Graham describes the potential "cascading effect" of an EMP attack. If
electrical power is knocked out and circuit boards fried,
telecommunications are disrupted, energy deliveries are impeded, the
financial system breaks down, food, water and gasoline become scarce.
As Kyl put it: "Few if any people would die right away. But the loss
of power would have a cascading effect on all aspects of U.S. society.
Communication would be largely impossible. Lack of refrigeration would
leave food rotting in warehouses, exacerbated by a lack of
transportation as those vehicles still working simply ran out of gas
(which is pumped with electricity). The inability to sanitize and
distribute water would quickly threaten public health, not to mention
the safety of anyone in the path of the inevitable fires, which would
rage unchecked. And as we have seen in areas of natural and other
disasters, such circumstances often result in a fairly rapid breakdown
of social order."
"American society has grown so dependent on computer and other
electrical systems that we have created our own Achilles' heel of
vulnerability, ironically much greater than those of other, less
developed nations," the senator wrote. "When deprived of power, we are
in many ways helpless, as the New York City blackout made clear. In
that case, power was restored quickly because adjacent areas could
provide help. But a large-scale burnout caused by a broad EMP attack
would create a much more difficult situation. Not only would there be
nobody nearby to help, it could take years to replace destroyed
equipment."
The commission said hardening key infrastructure systems and procuring
vital backup equipment such as transformers is both feasible and –
compared with the threat – relatively inexpensive.
"But it will take leadership by the Department of Homeland Security,
the Defense Department, and other federal agencies, along with support
from Congress, all of which have yet to materialize," wrote Kyl, so
far the only elected official blowing the whistle this alarming
development.
Kyl concluded in his report: "The Sept. 11 commission report stated
that our biggest failure was one of 'imagination.' No one imagined
that terrorists would do what they did on Sept. 11. Today few
Americans can conceive of the possibility that terrorists could bring
our society to its knees by destroying everything we rely on that runs
on electricity. But this time we've been warned, and we'd better be
prepared to respond."
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1114606960.85a45b3b0d54cce93e77e8e984ae946e@teranews...
Charly The Bastrad wrote:
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's
a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
That's where you're wrong.
All it takes is a mobileSCUD launcher on a barge, tanker etc. in the
Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.
Tony proves again that he really isn't a rocket scientist.. Takes a bit more
than that, old boy. I'd hate to think what that a rolling platform like that
would do to a SCUD's inertial guidance system,a SCUD woudl be marginal at
getting a decent sized warhead of any sort above 30,000 meters, someone
MIGHT notice the rather large SCUD missile and launcher on deck, the ship
would have to get pretty close to the US, Iran doesn't have an EMP weapon,
Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, Iran is years away from developing a
warhead which could be put on a SCUD and the EMP threat is really vastly
overstated, it's just another tech TLA that's been thrown out to scare the
hoi-polloi into buying more papers. Other than that, it's quite simple..
Tony
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it
is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy
America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the
world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists
and western missile industry experts.
The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine
if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear
warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in
high-altitude flight.
Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William
R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than
preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons - even
one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and
technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S.
back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.
Iran will have that capability - at least theoretically - as soon as
it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a
strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph
Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter
published by WND's founder.
Just last month, Congress heard testimony about the use of such
weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.
Iran has surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight
detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as
"successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for
this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of
Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market.
They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 apiece.
"A terrorist organization might have trouble putting a nuclear warhead
'on target' with a Scud, but it would be much easier to simply launch
and detonate in the atmosphere," wrote Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., in the
Washington Post a week ago. "No need for the risk and difficulty of
trying to smuggle a nuclear weapon over the border or hit a particular
city. Just launch a cheap missile from a freighter in international
waters - al-Qaida is believed to own about 80 such vessels - and make
sure to get it a few miles in the air."
The Iranian missile tests were more sophisticated and capable of
detonation at higher elevations - making them more dangerous.
Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental
U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country - knocking out
electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic
communications impotent.
While Iran still insists officially in talks currently underway with
the European Union that it is only developing nuclear power for
peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests
persuade U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran
can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability
of at least one nuclear warhead.
Some analysts believe the stage of Iranian missile developments
suggests Iranian scientists will move toward the production of
weapons-grade nuclear material shortly as soon as its nuclear reactor
in Busher is operative.
Jerome Corsi, author of "Atomic Iran," told WorldNetDaily the new
findings about Iran's Electromagnetic Pulse experiments significantly
raise the stakes of the mullah regime's bid to become a nuclear power.
"Up until now, I believed the nuclear threat to the U.S. from Iran was
limited to the ability of terrorists to penetrate the borders or port
security to deliver a device to a major city," he said. "While that
threat should continue to be a grave concern for every American, these
tests by Iran demonstrate just how devious the fanatical mullahs in
Tehran are. We are facing a clever and unscrupulous adversary in Iran
that could bring America to its knees."
Earlier this week, Iran's top nuclear official said Europe must heed
an Iranian proposal on uranium enrichment or risk a collapse of the
talks.
The warning by Hassan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security
Council, came as diplomats from Britain, France and Germany began
talks with their Iranian counterparts in Geneva, ahead of a more
senior-level meeting in London set for April 29. Enrichment produces
fuel for nuclear reactors, which can also be used in the explosive
core of nuclear bombs.
"The Europeans should tell us whether these ideas can work as the
basis for continued negotiations or not," Rowhani said, referring to
the Iranian proposal put forward last month that would allow some
uranium enrichment. "If yes, fine. If not, then the negotiations
cannot continue," he said.
Some analysts believe Iran is using the negotiations merely to buy
time for further development of the nuclear program.
The U.S. plans, according to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to
allow the EU talks to continue before deciding this summer to push for
United Nations sanctions against Iran.
Last month, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology
and Homeland Security chaired by Kyl, held a hearing on the
Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP, threat.
"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said
one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is
one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its
enemies - terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the
easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon,
detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's
atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the
surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of
the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power
grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the
continental United States, for months if not years."
The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not
to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He
serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the
United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science
adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.
Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran
to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the
planning of an EMP-style attack.
"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested
such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy
less likely than the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S.
city.
A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries
have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a
high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A
determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without
having a high level of sophistication."
"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at
risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover
the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon.
It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical
infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well
as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project
influence and military power."
The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in
all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical
infrastructures," explained the report.
"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity
and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as
catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the
commission, told members of Congress.
The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening
sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our
military forces."
"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the
United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere
and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation
down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the
Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect.
The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from
the damage that 'shocked' - upset, damaged and destroyed - electronics
controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The
indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."
The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners.
The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of
super-weapon against the U.S.
"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats
are difficult to deter - they can be terrorist groups that have no
state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to
attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the
commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may
also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United
States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."
Graham describes the potential "cascading effect" of an EMP attack. If
electrical power is knocked out and circuit boards fried,
telecommunications are disrupted, energy deliveries are impeded, the
financial system breaks down, food, water and gasoline become scarce.
As Kyl put it: "Few if any people would die right away. But the loss
of power would have a cascading effect on all aspects of U.S. society.
Communication would be largely impossible. Lack of refrigeration would
leave food rotting in warehouses, exacerbated by a lack of
transportation as those vehicles still working simply ran out of gas
(which is pumped with electricity). The inability to sanitize and
distribute water would quickly threaten public health, not to mention
the safety of anyone in the path of the inevitable fires, which would
rage unchecked. And as we have seen in areas of natural and other
disasters, such circumstances often result in a fairly rapid breakdown
of social order."
"American society has grown so dependent on computer and other
electrical systems that we have created our own Achilles' heel of
vulnerability, ironically much greater than those of other, less
developed nations," the senator wrote. "When deprived of power, we are
in many ways helpless, as the New York City blackout made clear. In
that case, power was restored quickly because adjacent areas could
provide help. But a large-scale burnout caused by a broad EMP attack
would create a much more difficult situation. Not only would there be
nobody nearby to help, it could take years to replace destroyed
equipment."
The commission said hardening key infrastructure systems and procuring
vital backup equipment such as transformers is both feasible and -
compared with the threat - relatively inexpensive.
"But it will take leadership by the Department of Homeland Security,
the Defense Department, and other federal agencies, along with support
from Congress, all of which have yet to materialize," wrote Kyl, so
far the only elected official blowing the whistle this alarming
development.
Kyl concluded in his report: "The Sept. 11 commission report stated
that our biggest failure was one of 'imagination.' No one imagined
that terrorists would do what they did on Sept. 11. Today few
Americans can conceive of the possibility that terrorists could bring
our society to its knees by destroying everything we rely on that runs
on electricity. But this time we've been warned, and we'd better be
prepared to respond."
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29 Apr 2005 08:25:20 AM |
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Charly The Bastrad wrote:
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
That's where you're wrong.
All it takes is a mobileSCUD launcher on a barge, tanker etc. in the
Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.
Tony
Get Real! Do you seriously believe that the Navy would just sit around and
watch some unidentified ship pull up and erect a missile and light it off? We
OWN the oceans, especially that close to the coast. Nothing moves that we
don't note and log. And don't bring up the recent collision with the Japanese
shcool boat. They probably thought that the sub was a whale and were thinking
'Here comes lunch' when the collision occured. Long range radar paints
everything. We'd see the ship as it entered the radar coverage, the computer
would assign a tracking code to it, it's speed and direction would be logged,
and the instant it stopped , someone would be flying over to see if it needed
assistance as a vessel in distress. F-18s are pretty fast, standing up a
missile and lighting it off takes a few hours at least. I think we'd be on to
them before they got ignition. A rack of laser guided Mk 82s will settle the
hash of the biggest ship, right then. Have a little faith in your brothers and
sisters in the Navy, they know what's at stake, and the Navy never sleeps.
Charly
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30 Apr 2005 10:40:42 AM |
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Charly The ***** wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Charly The Bastrad wrote:
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
That's where you're wrong.
es is a mobileSCUD launcher on a barge, tanker etc. in the
Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.
Tony
Get Real! Do you seriously believe that the Navy would just sit around and
watch some unidentified ship pull up and erect a missile and light it off?
What are you talking about? Do you seriously believe that we have the
ability to watch each individual ship at sea?
We
OWN the oceans, especially that close to the coast.
Charly
How close is that?
Tony
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wrote:
Charly The ***** wrote:
wrote:
Charly The Bastrad wrote:
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
That's where you're wrong.
es is a mobileSCUD launcher on a barge, tanker etc. in the
Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.
Tony
Get Real! Do you seriously believe that the Navy would just sit around and
watch some unidentified ship pull up and erect a missile and light it off?
What are you talking about? Do you seriously believe that we have the
ability to watch each individual ship at sea?
You're right. Especially if there is a couple of terrorist attcks in the
Homeland just prior to it. Navy would be running around like a chicken
with its head cut off.
We
OWN the oceans, especially that close to the coast.
Charly
How close is that?
Not even outside of the international waters. They could shoot in a
couple of long ones first, then move in and shoot the short range ones.
Stat.
Tony
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MonsieurStat wrote:
You're right. Especially if there is a couple of terrorist attcks in the
Homeland just prior to it. Navy would be running around like a chicken
with its head cut off.
Not even outside of the international waters. They could shoot in a
couple of long ones first, then move in and shoot the short range ones.
I really need to get you to show me how you manage to type with your
tongue in your cheek like that, every time I try that I ending up biting
the bloody thing. Must be an acquired skill...
The CO
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The CO wrote:
MonsieurStat wrote:
You're right. Especially if there is a couple of terrorist attcks in
the Homeland just prior to it. Navy would be running around like a
chicken with its head cut off.
Not even outside of the international waters. They could shoot in a
couple of long ones first, then move in and shoot the short range ones.
I really need to get you to show me how you manage to type with your
tongue in your cheek like that, every time I try that I ending up biting
the bloody thing. Must be an acquired skill...
It's easy, just read WND articles for inspiration.
Stat.
The CO
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Charly the ***** wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Charly The Bastrad wrote:
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
Charly
That's where you're wrong.
All it takes is a mobileSCUD launcher on a barge, tanker etc. in the
Atlantic or Pacific Ocean.
Tony
Get Real! Do you seriously believe that the Navy would just sit around and
watch some unidentified ship pull up and erect a missile and light it off? We
OWN the oceans, especially that close to the coast. Nothing moves that we
don't note and log.
Long before then. Can you say RORSAT?
I'd say that any ship so equipped would be tagged as an item of interest
before they had the hatch covers on. it would be non trivial to try and
construct, load and importantly, test a missile launching merchy without
it getting some serious attention.
Not to mentio that it presupposes an ability in warheads that Iran
simply don't have. Any nuke at altitude will produce an EMP, but one
strong enough to seriously zap the CONUS would need to be up around
200nm and in the multimegaton range. If we were to assume Iran gets a
nuclear device functional in the next year or two, moving from that to a
multimegaton device capable of any serious impact would be 5-10 years
beyond that. What next? They going to invade? What with? EMP would
be useful only if you have something to follow up with. All it would do
in the presented scenario would be to get the undivided attention of US
strategic nuclear forces. That would be a Bad Thing.
Remember that military systems are hardened and that general electronics
now is a lot 'harder' than it used to be even 10 years ago.
And don't bring up the recent collision with the Japanese
shcool boat. They probably thought that the sub was a whale and were thinking
'Here comes lunch' when the collision occured. Long range radar paints
everything. We'd see the ship as it entered the radar coverage, the computer
would assign a tracking code to it, it's speed and direction would be logged,
and the instant it stopped , someone would be flying over to see if it needed
assistance as a vessel in distress. F-18s are pretty fast, standing up a
missile and lighting it off takes a few hours at least. I think we'd be on to
them before they got ignition. A rack of laser guided Mk 82s will settle the
hash of the biggest ship, right then. Have a little faith in your brothers and
sisters in the Navy, they know what's at stake, and the Navy never sleeps.
I'd probably lay odds than any suspect merchy would have an SSN 'tail'
shortly after it left home port....
The CO
Charly
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Charly the ***** <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> Spat the Words
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's
a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
<sarcasm>
Well you know, the Iranians are an 'imminent threat' (just like
the Iraqis were). They could hit us in 45 minutes notice.
<\sarcasm>
Tony has got his panties all bunched and wadded up painfully
into his arse over some possible future event that could happen
at some unknown future date under as yet to be determined
circumstances, and this event will happen with certainty.
Like the old Kinks song says, "Paranoia, Self-Destroyer".
Tony is killing himself. Who needs terrorist enemies when
you're your own worst enemy ?
Charly
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it
is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy
America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the
world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists
and western missile industry experts.
The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine
if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear
warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in
high-altitude flight.
Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William
R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than
preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons – even
one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and
technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S.
back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.
Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as
it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a
strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph
Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter
published by WND's founder.
Just last month, Congress heard testimony about the use of such
weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.
Iran has surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight
detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as
"successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for
this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of
Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market.
They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 apiece.
"A terrorist organization might have trouble putting a nuclear warhead
'on target' with a Scud, but it would be much easier to simply launch
and detonate in the atmosphere," wrote Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., in the
Washington Post a week ago. "No need for the risk and difficulty of
trying to smuggle a nuclear weapon over the border or hit a particular
city. Just launch a cheap missile from a freighter in international
waters – al-Qaida is believed to own about 80 such vessels – and make
sure to get it a few miles in the air."
The Iranian missile tests were more sophisticated and capable of
detonation at higher elevations – making them more dangerous.
Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental
U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country – knocking out
electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic
communications impotent.
While Iran still insists officially in talks currently underway with
the European Union that it is only developing nuclear power for
peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests
persuade U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran
can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability
of at least one nuclear warhead.
Some analysts believe the stage of Iranian missile developments
suggests Iranian scientists will move toward the production of
weapons-grade nuclear material shortly as soon as its nuclear reactor
in Busher is operative.
Jerome Corsi, author of "Atomic Iran," told WorldNetDaily the new
findings about Iran's Electromagnetic Pulse experiments significantly
raise the stakes of the mullah regime's bid to become a nuclear power.
"Up until now, I believed the nuclear threat to the U.S. from Iran was
limited to the ability of terrorists to penetrate the borders or port
security to deliver a device to a major city," he said. "While that
threat should continue to be a grave concern for every American, these
tests by Iran demonstrate just how devious the fanatical mullahs in
Tehran are. We are facing a clever and unscrupulous adversary in Iran
that could bring America to its knees."
Earlier this week, Iran's top nuclear official said Europe must heed
an Iranian proposal on uranium enrichment or risk a collapse of the
talks.
The warning by Hassan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security
Council, came as diplomats from Britain, France and Germany began
talks with their Iranian counterparts in Geneva, ahead of a more
senior-level meeting in London set for April 29. Enrichment produces
fuel for nuclear reactors, which can also be used in the explosive
core of nuclear bombs.
"The Europeans should tell us whether these ideas can work as the
basis for continued negotiations or not," Rowhani said, referring to
the Iranian proposal put forward last month that would allow some
uranium enrichment. "If yes, fine. If not, then the negotiations
cannot continue," he said.
Some analysts believe Iran is using the negotiations merely to buy
time for further development of the nuclear program.
The U.S. plans, according to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to
allow the EU talks to continue before deciding this summer to push for
United Nations sanctions against Iran.
Last month, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology
and Homeland Security chaired by Kyl, held a hearing on the
Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP, threat.
"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said
one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is
one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its
enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the
easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon,
detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's
atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the
surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of
the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power
grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the
continental United States, for months if not years."
The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not
to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He
serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the
United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science
adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.
Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran
to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the
planning of an EMP-style attack.
"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested
such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy
less likely than the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S.
city.
A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries
have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a
high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A
determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without
having a high level of sophistication."
"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at
risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover
the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon.
It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical
infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well
as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project
influence and military power."
The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in
all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical
infrastructures," explained the report.
"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity
and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as
catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the
commission, told members of Congress.
The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening
sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our
military forces."
"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the
United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere
and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation
down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the
Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect.
The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from
the damage that 'shocked' – upset, damaged and destroyed – electronics
controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The
indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."
The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners.
The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of
super-weapon against the U.S.
"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats
are difficult to deter – they can be terrorist groups that have no
state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to
attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the
commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may
also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United
States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."
Graham describes the potential "cascading effect" of an EMP attack. If
electrical power is knocked out and circuit boards fried,
telecommunications are disrupted, energy deliveries are impeded, the
financial system breaks down, food, water and gasoline become scarce.
As Kyl put it: "Few if any people would die right away. But the loss
of power would have a cascading effect on all aspects of U.S. society.
Communication would be largely impossible. Lack of refrigeration would
leave food rotting in warehouses, exacerbated by a lack of
transportation as those vehicles still working simply ran out of gas
(which is pumped with electricity). The inability to sanitize and
distribute water would quickly threaten public health, not to mention
the safety of anyone in the path of the inevitable fires, which would
rage unchecked. And as we have seen in areas of natural and other
disasters, such circumstances often result in a fairly rapid breakdown
of social order."
"American society has grown so dependent on computer and other
electrical systems that we have created our own Achilles' heel of
vulnerability, ironically much greater than those of other, less
developed nations," the senator wrote. "When deprived of power, we are
in many ways helpless, as the New York City blackout made clear. In
that case, power was restored quickly because adjacent areas could
provide help. But a large-scale burnout caused by a broad EMP attack
would create a much more difficult situation. Not only would there be
nobody nearby to help, it could take years to replace destroyed
equipment."
The commission said hardening key infrastructure systems and procuring
vital backup equipment such as transformers is both feasible and –
compared with the threat – relatively inexpensive.
"But it will take leadership by the Department of Homeland Security,
the Defense Department, and other federal agencies, along with support
from Congress, all of which have yet to materialize," wrote Kyl, so
far the only elected official blowing the whistle this alarming
development.
Kyl concluded in his report: "The Sept. 11 commission report stated
that our biggest failure was one of 'imagination.' No one imagined
that terrorists would do what they did on Sept. 11. Today few
Americans can conceive of the possibility that terrorists could bring
our society to its knees by destroying everything we rely on that runs
on electricity. But this time we've been warned, and we'd better be
prepared to respond."
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Some Moron wrote:
Charly the ***** <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> Spat the Words
And what, pray tell, is the advertized range of this particular engine of
destruction? Last I heard, it was a little short of transatlantic. It's
a
looong way from Iran to the US, when they get something with a range of
about 10,000 miles, then I'll worry.
<sarcasm>
Well you know, the Iranians are an 'imminent threat' (just like
the Iraqis were). They could hit us in 45 minutes notice.
<\sarcasm>
Tony has got his panties all bunched and wadded up painfully
into his arse over some possible future event that could happen
at some unknown future date under as yet to be determined
circumstances, and this event will happen with certainty.
Like the old Kinks song says, "Paranoia, Self-Destroyer".
Tony is killing himself. Who needs terrorist enemies when
you're your own worst enemy ?
Wrong.
Unlike you when it happens I won't be caught oiff guard, just like
9-11 when you were sitting there thinking that first plane was an
accident, I knew it was an attack by Islamic Terrorists.
Tony
itwill@happen.com wrote:
Iran plans to knock out U.S. with 1 nuclear bomb
Tests missiles for electro-magnetic pulse weapon that could destroy
America's technical infrastructure
Posted: April 25, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON -- Iran is not only covertly developing nuclear weapons, it
is already testing ballistic missiles specifically designed to destroy
America's technical infrastructure, effectively neutralizing the
world's lone superpower, say U.S. intelligence sources, top scientists
and western missile industry experts.
The radical Shiite regime has conducted successful tests to determine
if its Shahab-3 ballistic missiles, capable of carrying a nuclear
warhead, can be detonated by a remote-control device while still in
high-altitude flight.
Scientists, including President Reagan's top science adviser, William
R. Graham, say there is no other explanation for such tests than
preparation for the deployment of Electromagnetic Pulse weapons – even
one of which could knock out America's critical electrical and
technological infrastructure, effectively sending the continental U.S.
back to the 19th century with a recovery time of months or years.
Iran will have that capability – at least theoretically – as soon as
it has one nuclear bomb ready to arm such a missile. North Korea, a
strategic ally of Iran, already boasts such capability.
The stunning report was first published over the weekend in Joseph
Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online intelligence newsletter
published by WND's founder.
Just last month, Congress heard testimony about the use of such
weapons and the threat they pose from rogue regimes.
Iran has surprised intelligence analysts by describing the mid-flight
detonations of missiles fired from ships on the Caspian Sea as
"successful" tests. Even primitive Scud missiles could be used for
this purpose. And top U.S. intelligence officials reminded members of
Congress that there is a glut of these missiles on the world market.
They are currently being bought and sold for about $100,000 apiece.
"A terrorist organization might have trouble putting a nuclear warhead
'on target' with a Scud, but it would be much easier to simply launch
and detonate in the atmosphere," wrote Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., in the
Washington Post a week ago. "No need for the risk and difficulty of
trying to smuggle a nuclear weapon over the border or hit a particular
city. Just launch a cheap missile from a freighter in international
waters – al-Qaida is believed to own about 80 such vessels – and make
sure to get it a few miles in the air."
The Iranian missile tests were more sophisticated and capable of
detonation at higher elevations – making them more dangerous.
Detonated at a height of 60 to 500 kilometers above the continental
U.S., one nuclear warhead could cripple the country – knocking out
electrical power and circuit boards and rendering the U.S. domestic
communications impotent.
While Iran still insists officially in talks currently underway with
the European Union that it is only developing nuclear power for
peaceful civilian purposes, the mid-flight detonation missile tests
persuade U.S. military planners and intelligence agencies that Tehran
can only be planning such an attack, which depends on the availability
of at least one nuclear warhead.
Some analysts believe the stage of Iranian missile developments
suggests Iranian scientists will move toward the production of
weapons-grade nuclear material shortly as soon as its nuclear reactor
in Busher is operative.
Jerome Corsi, author of "Atomic Iran," told WorldNetDaily the new
findings about Iran's Electromagnetic Pulse experiments significantly
raise the stakes of the mullah regime's bid to become a nuclear power.
"Up until now, I believed the nuclear threat to the U.S. from Iran was
limited to the ability of terrorists to penetrate the borders or port
security to deliver a device to a major city," he said. "While that
threat should continue to be a grave concern for every American, these
tests by Iran demonstrate just how devious the fanatical mullahs in
Tehran are. We are facing a clever and unscrupulous adversary in Iran
that could bring America to its knees."
Earlier this week, Iran's top nuclear official said Europe must heed
an Iranian proposal on uranium enrichment or risk a collapse of the
talks.
The warning by Hassan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security
Council, came as diplomats from Britain, France and Germany began
talks with their Iranian counterparts in Geneva, ahead of a more
senior-level meeting in London set for April 29. Enrichment produces
fuel for nuclear reactors, which can also be used in the explosive
core of nuclear bombs.
"The Europeans should tell us whether these ideas can work as the
basis for continued negotiations or not," Rowhani said, referring to
the Iranian proposal put forward last month that would allow some
uranium enrichment. "If yes, fine. If not, then the negotiations
cannot continue," he said.
Some analysts believe Iran is using the negotiations merely to buy
time for further development of the nuclear program.
The U.S. plans, according to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to
allow the EU talks to continue before deciding this summer to push for
United Nations sanctions against Iran.
Last month, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology
and Homeland Security chaired by Kyl, held a hearing on the
Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP, threat.
"An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack on the American homeland, said
one of the distinguished scientists who testified at the hearing, is
one of only a few ways that the United States could be defeated by its
enemies – terrorist or otherwise," wrote Kyl "And it is probably the
easiest. A single Scud missile, carrying a single nuclear weapon,
detonated at the appropriate altitude, would interact with the Earth's
atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating down to the
surface at the speed of light. Depending on the location and size of
the blast, the effect would be to knock out already stressed power
grids and other electrical systems across much or even all of the
continental United States, for months if not years."
The purpose of an EMP attack, unlike a nuclear attack on land, is not
to kill people, but "to kill electrons," as Graham explained. He
serves as chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the
United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack and was director of
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and science
adviser to the president during the Reagan administration.
Graham told WorldNetDaily he could think of no other reason for Iran
to be experimenting with mid-air detonation of missiles than for the
planning of an EMP-style attack.
"EMP offers a bigger bang for the buck," he said. He also suggested
such an attack makes a U.S. nuclear response against a suspected enemy
less likely than the detonation of a nuclear bomb in a major U.S.
city.
A 2004 report by the commission found "several potential adversaries
have or can acquire the capability to attack the United States with a
high-altitude nuclear weapons-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP). A
determined adversary can achieve an EMP attack capability without
having a high level of sophistication."
"EMP is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at
risk of catastrophic consequences," the report said. "EMP will cover
the wide geographic region within line of sight to the nuclear weapon.
It has the capability to produce significant damage to critical
infrastructures and thus to the very fabric of U.S. society, as well
as to the ability of the United States and Western nations to project
influence and military power."
The major impact of EMP weapons is on electronics, "so pervasive in
all aspects of our society and military, coupled through critical
infrastructures," explained the report.
"Their effects on systems and infrastructures dependent on electricity
and electronics could be sufficiently ruinous as to qualify as
catastrophic to the nation," Lowell Wood, acting chairman of the
commission, told members of Congress.
The commission report went so far as to suggest, in its opening
sentence, that an EMP attack "might result in the defeat of our
military forces."
"Briefly, a single nuclear weapon exploded at high altitude above the
United States will interact with the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere
and magnetic field to produce an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) radiation
down to the Earth and additionally create electrical currents in the
Earth," said the report. "EMP effects are both direct and indirect.
The former are due to electrical systems, and the latter arise from
the damage that 'shocked' – upset, damaged and destroyed – electronics
controls then inflict on the systems in which they are embedded. The
indirect effects can be even more severe than the direct effects."
The EMP threat is not a new one considered by U.S. defense planners.
The Soviet Union had experimented with the idea as a kind of
super-weapon against the U.S.
"What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats
are difficult to deter – they can be terrorist groups that have no
state identity, have only one or a few weapons and are motivated to
attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety," explains the
commission report. "Rogue states, such as North Korea and Iran, may
also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United
States and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter."
Graham describes the poten | | | |