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"Jean Guernon" |
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26 Jan 2007 06:17:33 PM |
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Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents (31,690 names released!) in Iraq (AP) |
Just released, and CTV news speaks of hundreds of billions in oil revenues
from the West that go into taking over Iraq... This is the gist of it:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/26/europe/EU-GEN-France-Iran-Iraq.php
Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents in Iraq
The Associated PressPublished: January 26, 2007
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PARIS: Iran has thousands of paid operatives working in neighboring Iraq, an
Iranian opposition group based in France said Friday, and it released the
names of nearly 32,000 people it alleged were involved.
The National Council of Resistance's allegations could not be independently
verified. A press officer at the Iranian Embassy in Paris, speaking on
condition of anonymity because of embassy policy, called the claims
"completely false" and said Tehran supports stability in the region.
The council is the political wing of the People's Mujahedeen of Iran, deemed
a terrorist organization by the United States. For years, the Mujahedeen had
a well equipped and operational army of several thousand fighters in Iraq,
Iran's neighbor, but U.S. soldiers disarmed it in 2004. The group advocates
the overthrow of the Iranian regime. Its political wing has been based in
France since shortly after the 1979 Islamic revolution.
Mohammad Mohaddessin, who heads the foreign affairs committee, alleged that
thousands of Iraqis are working on Iran's behalf.
"The clerical regime, faced with intensifying domestic crisis and isolation
inside Iran, views its only chance for survival in the establishment of a
proxy regime in Iraq," Mohaddessin said at a news conference in Paris.
His opposition group released the names, alleged dates of recruitment by
Iran and the supposed salaries of 31,690 Iraqis. It claimed that most were
paid by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Qods Force - a faction of the
Iranian military that the U.S. military says bankrolls militants in Iraq and
equips them with weapons.
It said that in Iraq, the alleged operatives were mostly affiliated with the
Badr Brigade, the military wing of Iraq's most powerful Shiite political
group, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.
The claims by the Iranian opposition group in exile came as U.S. President
George W. Bush authorized U.S. forces in Iraq to take whatever actions are
needed to counter what Washington said were Iranian agents deemed a threat
to American troops or the public.
The policy was in response to intelligence that Iran is supporting
terrorists inside Iraq and providing bombs and other equipment to anti-U.S.
insurgents.
However, Washington has not indicated that potentially tens of thousands of
Iraqis could be involved as the Mujahedeen claimed.
Mohaddessin said the list was compiled in 2003 and 2004 by the Iranian
Revolutionary Guard, and obtained by his group's "sources" within it,
declining to elaborate. He alleged that most of those named were still
working on Iran's behalf.
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J.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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26 Jan 2007 10:47:35 PM |
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Jean, Jean, Jean...
LOL!
All over American mainstream news now is the stupid trance-like drum beat
for confrontation with Iran, with the oft-repeated "rationalization" for
that face-off: the US can't let Iran "dominate" the Gulf States region or
"meddle" in Iraq. What folly!
Doesn't the US "dominate" and "meddle" in the Northern and Southern
Hemisphere of the planet? Well, of course, it does -- and to what effect?
Canadians, Mexicans, Central and So. Americans basically take the bumpy
backseat to the US's overpowering influence, economically and militarily.
We saw that in action in Panama under Bush #1, for example. In Cuba by
trade sanctions, in Grenada, Nicaragua, Haiti, and so forth.
Now, who has more right to dominate the Persian Gulf than Iran? Their
ancestral families run through the entire region, and political and
religious ties, too. It's their turf, Jean, the Arabs, the Muslims, the
Shia, the Sunni, the Kurds, et al. It's much more their turf than it is
our's. We're the interlopers, the invaders, the exploiters...and mostly
for oil. If anyone has a conflict with Iran's emerging dominance, it's
more rightly an Arab issue, not an American (or Western) one.
It's up to the Gulf states' leaders and peoples to work out their
coexistence with Iran, and with each other. We are nothing but an
agitating presence there -- and we're there, as they well know, to keep
the oil flow going smoothly. (It's highly unlikely they'd just arbitrarily
decide to beat us down with oil reductions or price jumps. It's a
competitive market with the Saudis and others, and they need to stay
competitive and make a high profit.) We could care less about the Arabic
people, Jeano. And certainly you don't..you'd rather rub your hairy Green
buns with Israelis.
After the Iraq/WMD fiasco, I expected you to jump on the Bush bandwagon
and scream about Iran's influence in Iraq -- but it's no secret Iran has a
tremendous interest in bringing the once hostile enemy into its friendly
fold, as well as Syria. It is, after all, their interconnections through
culture, ancestry, politics, religion ... that bind the Arabic people.
Sure, they kill each other, too, and hate and fear each other, but that is
really a common trait of this species - not exclusively a problem for
those indigenous peoples. It's to be expected. They need to work out
their coexistence, whether violently or peacefully, in that area without
any outside interference. We can't forever militarily or economically
control the lives, governments, and destinies of those peoples,
Jeano...the massive failure of colonialism, for example, is a stark
reminder.
Get with it, you hairy Green dwarf! Face reality! Bush is an embattled,
failed leader with a failed plan, and he's about to compound it with
another. Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis. These leaders are dangerous. Impeach Bush, remove his
Cabinet, and pull the troops the hell out!
Docrodile
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:xSwuh.28$Y6.24@edtnps89...
Just released, and CTV news speaks of hundreds of billions in oil
revenues from the West that go into taking over Iraq... This is the gist
of it:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/26/europe/EU-GEN-France-Iran-Iraq.php
Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents in Iraq
The Associated PressPublished: January 26, 2007
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PARIS: Iran has thousands of paid operatives working in neighboring
Iraq, an Iranian opposition group based in France said Friday, and it
released the names of nearly 32,000 people it alleged were involved.
The National Council of Resistance's allegations could not be
independently verified. A press officer at the Iranian Embassy in Paris,
speaking on condition of anonymity because of embassy policy, called the
claims "completely false" and said Tehran supports stability in the
region.
The council is the political wing of the People's Mujahedeen of Iran,
deemed a terrorist organization by the United States. For years, the
Mujahedeen had a well equipped and operational army of several thousand
fighters in Iraq, Iran's neighbor, but U.S. soldiers disarmed it in
2004. The group advocates the overthrow of the Iranian regime. Its
political wing has been based in France since shortly after the 1979
Islamic revolution.
Mohammad Mohaddessin, who heads the foreign affairs committee, alleged
that thousands of Iraqis are working on Iran's behalf.
"The clerical regime, faced with intensifying domestic crisis and
isolation inside Iran, views its only chance for survival in the
establishment of a proxy regime in Iraq," Mohaddessin said at a news
conference in Paris.
His opposition group released the names, alleged dates of recruitment by
Iran and the supposed salaries of 31,690 Iraqis. It claimed that most
were paid by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Qods Force - a faction of
the Iranian military that the U.S. military says bankrolls militants in
Iraq and equips them with weapons.
It said that in Iraq, the alleged operatives were mostly affiliated with
the Badr Brigade, the military wing of Iraq's most powerful Shiite
political group, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.
The claims by the Iranian opposition group in exile came as U.S.
President George W. Bush authorized U.S. forces in Iraq to take whatever
actions are needed to counter what Washington said were Iranian agents
deemed a threat to American troops or the public.
The policy was in response to intelligence that Iran is supporting
terrorists inside Iraq and providing bombs and other equipment to
anti-U.S. insurgents.
However, Washington has not indicated that potentially tens of thousands
of Iraqis could be involved as the Mujahedeen claimed.
Mohaddessin said the list was compiled in 2003 and 2004 by the Iranian
Revolutionary Guard, and obtained by his group's "sources" within it,
declining to elaborate. He alleged that most of those named were still
working on Iran's behalf.
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J.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents (31,690 names released!) in Iraq (AP) |
26 Jan 2007 11:35:27 PM |
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Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents (31,690 names released!) in Iraq (AP) |
27 Jan 2007 02:00:12 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink. He's love to
see what Chenney described would happen there if the US doesn't help put
order there. He could blame those who fight the terrorists instead of the
terrorists who are hell bent on destroying the USA. Strange logic that seem
to prevail somehow. But you know how these people are. If Saddam had stayed,
and had competed with Iran for the bomb, Bunk would say good, it is the
fault of the US. To get him with a unanimous resolution that called for it,
and then betrayed it, indirectly justifying and supporting the terrorists,
because of the very corruption with Saddam Chenney was talking about, again,
Bunk says good, it is the fault of the US.
Gee, whatever the terrorists do now by hate of their Muslim sect counterpart
in Iraq, if the US doesn't help crush the terrorists fueling this, as
Chenney said, then they will then turn against the West by greater hate even
for Christians and Jews, in a much more forceful way (which is hard to
imgine given what they do to each others in the name of the same faith - I
guess to get the same bunch of little girls), but again, Bunk will say,
good, it is the fault of the US. Here, again he is jumping of joy that
Iran's game is uncovered at last, because he can say (yes you guessed it:),
it's the fault of the US.
This Iranian second Hitler, who, like the first one, promotes anitsemitism
and attacks his neighbor, he cheers, and says, it's the US fault, whatever
the US does about it, ot the Syrian Baathists who also stir up their
neughbor and have their antisemitism in common with the Holocaust denier, it
will always be "Good. It's the fault of the US." The only thing that he will
never ssay is good, is the good done by the US, and summarly described by
Chenney, that he will never say.
He freaks out because the vice-president is coherent. The psychosis he sees
is his own. He is not alone, Bunk's psychosis though being the terrorists'
propaganda not his own, has gained popularity because the media buys it
because they don't look for logic but for shocking, and this lack of
integrity permeates the masses in the days where everything is media driven.
Flawless logic smeared by US haters, again, the US fault, and lots of
Americans are fooled by what the media feed them when they come home, not
only the jokes led by comedians (that have nonetheless a better sense of
humor than him in their other endeavour), unfortunately, but by thenews
media that picks those who criticize their leader and ignore the others,
because it is more "popular" no matter where this leads.
Sure Bush has had flaws, but socially, it is Clinton who destroyed welfare,
and Americans are not about to go back and keep their Human rights
commitment on that given the most recent poll, & ecologically, he is going
back to logic, and focusses on the long term bidding on new energy more than
any president ever did. Tries to guarantee medicare to 100 million more. A
step ion the right direction. What do the dems offer bnesides criticism, I
mean in terms of solution that would be better than that besides offering a
disastrous retreat in Iraq because of this bias the media has created? They
vote to prevent troops from going in support of each others, when all the
while until now they had criticized the administration for not sending
enough of them. Some of these things are indeed the US fault this time, but
not those their detractor says. None are the making of the president, except
maybe the delay of coming around to a better ecological future. This is not
so much so anymore, and it is about time, and credit for that is shared and
lean towards an ex-dem contender. Maybe he didn't invent the internet, but
Gore was indeed a pioneer in that political field that is ecology. This is
what is good about them, Gore, now that he hasn't given up on this idea but
has gone further with it.
The rest have only criticism to bring, but this guy, I am not shy to
recognize him, THIS is good about them. But who would recognize the good of
the present adminsitration publically? Who is not affraid of giving to Cesar
what belongs to Cesar, because of the influence of the smearing media
circus? All this makes me think of the new Apple ads, comparing the PC with
the MAC. People buy their questionable logic, and it is very eloquent, but
only because it is Apple who run the ad. Bill gates runs the show and is
hated. Well now that he has given so much, maybe he is not that much smeared
anymore. Anyway, you get my drift, yes?
J.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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27 Jan 2007 11:15:24 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:gEDuh.205$Fd.90@edtnps90...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: 1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink.
I do???!!!! LOL!! ;)~
He's love to
see what Chenney described would happen there if the US doesn't help put
order there. He could blame those who fight the terrorists instead of
the terrorists who are hell bent on destroying the USA.
They're not the only ones hell bent on destroying us. Corporate creeps in
high political offices, and the ones in business globally, are the other
threat -- more grave than the terrorists' threat. Eisenhower warned the
public about it long ago, Jeano. There have been many warning of the
government-corporate collusion to diminish our freedoms, ruin our natural
environment for profit, and make produce a false democracy.
Strange logic that seem
to prevail somehow. But you know how these people are. If Saddam had
stayed, and had competed with Iran for the bomb, Bunk would say good, it
is the fault of the US. To get him with a unanimous resolution that
called for it, and then betrayed it, indirectly justifying and
supporting the terrorists, because of the very corruption with Saddam
Chenney was talking about, again, Bunk says good, it is the fault of the
US.
I don't like dictators of any flavor, Jeano, including you and Steven. Any
fantatical, fascist, tyrannical personages can take a flying leap off a
cliff!
Gee, whatever the terrorists do now by hate of their Muslim sect
counterpart in Iraq, if the US doesn't help crush the terrorists fueling
this, as Chenney said, then they will then turn against the West by
greater hate even for Christians and Jews, in a much more forceful way
(which is hard to imgine given what they do to each others in the name
of the same faith - I guess to get the same bunch of little girls), but
again, Bunk will say, good, it is the fault of the US. Here, again he is
jumping of joy that Iran's game is uncovered at last, because he can say
(yes you guessed it:), it's the fault of the US.
Cheney is a sullen, bullying, arrogant fucker, Jeano, and hugely
antagonistic toward anyone who opposes his viewpoints. He never ran for
politcal office, even at the lowest level. He sought repeated deferments
to stay out of the military (and yet he was a defense secretary). He has
profited greatly through Halliburton in no-bid contracts (via a blind
trust). Are you sure the Cheney you wanna' suck on, is the same Cheney I
wanna kick around? LOL!
This Iranian second Hitler, who, like the first one, promotes
anitsemitism and attacks his neighbor, he cheers, and says, it's the US
fault, whatever the US does about it, ot the Syrian Baathists who also
stir up their neughbor and have their antisemitism in common with the
Holocaust denier, it will always be "Good. It's the fault of the US."
The only thing that he will never ssay is good, is the good done by the
US, and summarly described by Chenney, that he will never say.
Well, Jeano, if you go to my website I have a cartoonish photo of that
'second Hitler' you describe, and see if you can understand how I feel
about his character. As I said, tyrants and arrogant asses are leaders who
do no good, and in the critical times we're in, they are moving us toward
catastrophe. Only things like impeachment and the due process of court
action, in this society, can stop the crazy ones here. Ahmadinejad will
most likely have to be stopped by his own people, or the clerics that
support him.
He freaks out because the vice-president is coherent.
Coherent? He throws a 'silent glaring fit' that is more appropriate to a
juvenile postering for a fight, not for the No. 2 power position. It's
disgraceful and scary to see a top executive resort to throwing expletives
at a congressman as he did in 2004, and get into a 'stare down' with a
news interviewer -- when he could just as easily helped his embattled
Bushy administration much by ignoring it, saying, 'NO comment!" or, "I
won't answer that. Next question, please."
The psychosis he sees
is his own. He is not alone, Bunk's psychosis though being the
terrorists' propaganda not his own, has gained popularity
You never had much popularity in politics, Jeano, that's obvious. You're a
fringe fanatic. Maybe you're just pissed you can't get even 2% to agree
with your views politically, but, if I were you, I'd go and find all those
few who supported you, try to get a Jeano Cult started, and then go on an
ugly persecution of 'blasphemers' and 'heretics' ... of which I'd likely
be one in your warped view. Maybe you can be successful one day, and burn
people like me on the stake. I only ask that you splash me with my
favorite honey sesame sauce before you cook me well done. LOL!
because the media buys it
because they don't look for logic but for shocking, and this lack of
integrity permeates the masses in the days where everything is media
driven. Flawless logic smeared by US haters, again, the US fault, and
lots of Americans are fooled by what the media feed them when they come
home, not only the jokes led by comedians (that have nonetheless a
better sense of humor than him in their other endeavour), unfortunately,
but by thenews media that picks those who criticize their leader and
ignore the others, because it is more "popular" no matter where this
leads.
Sure Bush has had flaws, but socially, it is Clinton who destroyed
welfare, and Americans are not about to go back and keep their Human
rights commitment on that given the most recent poll, & ecologically, he
is going back to logic, and focusses on the long term bidding on new
energy more than
The US government has made numerous bad policy decisions domestically and
internationally for decades. It is no better or worse than the now dead
civilizations which preceded it. The USSR being the latest in a long line
of failed systems because of the core behavioral nastiness of humans. This
one will be gone some day, too, and whether it be sooner or later, depends
on many factors. I'd say it will be sooner than most anyone would care to
seriously contemplate now.
any president ever did. Tries to guarantee medicare to 100 million more.
A step ion the right direction. What do the dems offer bnesides
criticism, I mean in terms of solution that would be better than that
besides offering a disastrous retreat in Iraq because of this bias the
media has created? They vote to prevent troops from going in support of
each others, when all the while until now they had criticized the
administration for not sending enough of them.
Both parties are beholden to large corporate monied interests, Jeano, and
you should know that. It is not a question of political absolutism or
altruism we liberals seek, but specific action against a current and
growing threat to our freedoms, a threat to true democracy, the
perpetuation of unneeded pre-emptive warfare, the deterioration of our
environment, and the constant commercially motivated interference in the
sovereignty and destinies of the peoples of this world. No one has all the
answers, but continued violence and division isn't going to produce
anything but a reality that has gone before our times. If we want to have
another reality for our future times, cooperation and understanding among
divided ideologies will have to come about. The present leadership is
'more of the same' that has permeated the human hierarchies of the
millenia of civilization. I don't know how the basic nature of humanity
can be effectively changed to get better results. It is a huge task and
complex. But having one more 'lovely little war' isn't going to get us
there. It is perhaps because so many have never experienced the horror of
warfare in their pristine cultures, it makes it so supportable, even
glorious and romantic. The American culture glorifies violence, and that
fact reflects on the collective psyche of a people -- making it prone to
accepting violence as a solution to what it hates and fears. But hate and
fear are manipulated by the powers to be, and we cannot be always sure of
the who may be our greatest enemy, in the midst of propaganda, fanaticism,
hysteria. As Roosevelt once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear
itself."
Some of these things are indeed the US fault this time, but
not those their detractor says. None are the making of the president,
except maybe the delay of coming around to a better ecological future.
This is not so much so anymore, and it is about time, and credit for
that is shared and lean towards an ex-dem contender. Maybe he didn't
invent the internet, but Gore was indeed a pioneer in that political
field that is ecology. This is what is good about them, Gore, now that
he hasn't given up on this idea but has gone further with it.
The buck stops at the highest office of the politcal landscape, Jeano.
Bush is the man responsible for the decisions made, the policies carried
out by executive power. He started the Iraq War, as he just started an air
war on Somalia (that has killed many civilians), and he's moving toward
getting some kind of war going with Iran and Syria. War is all we
Americans have heard since these shits took office, and fear of terrorist
strikes, alerts, evacuations, false alarms galore. If you think we can
continue to keep our equilibrium and sanity as a people for the many
years, or decades to come, and keep living this way, then you are insane.
This is insane life, an insane future to look at, and insane leaders. But,
since you obviously have a 'vested interest' in porttraying the future as
a forboding place of great war and suffering, and then liberation
supernaturally, with Jews being a key 'good guy' player admidst all the
antichrist influences around them, it stands to reason you support Bush's
stupid war, or want to spread stories about Iran being the next bad guy
the US must fight against. Your interpretations of prophecies color your
present and future...and I have only guesses as to why you've gotten into
this frame of mind. Suffice to say, you're a sick man with a tyrannical
bent who seems to be stuffed full of hate and arrogance.
The rest have only criticism to bring, but this guy, I am not shy to
recognize him, THIS is good about them. But who would recognize the good
of the present adminsitration publically? Who is not affraid of giving
to Cesar what belongs to Cesar, because of the influence of the smearing
media circus? All this makes me think of the new Apple ads, comparing
the PC with the MAC. People buy their questionable logic, and it is very
eloquent, but only because it is Apple who run the ad. Bill gates runs
the show and is hated. Well now that he has given so much, maybe he is
not that much smeared anymore. Anyway, you get my drift, yes?
J.
Yeah, it was a fucking long journey through your rant, but after extreme
exhaustion, I more than get your drift, Jeano.
LOL!
Docrodile
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents (31,690 names released!) in Iraq (AP) |
28 Jan 2007 12:57:16 AM |
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"Docrodile" <swampthing@hellsbayou.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
epg1bc$gmj$1@aioe.org...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:gEDuh.205$Fd.90@edtnps90...
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink.
I do???!!!! LOL!! ;)~
He's love to
see what Chenney described would happen there if the US doesn't help put
order there. He could blame those who fight the terrorists instead of the
terrorists who are hell bent on destroying the USA.
They're not the only ones hell bent on destroying us. Corporate creeps in
high political offices, and the ones in business globally, are the other
threat -- more grave than the terrorists' threat. Eisenhower warned the
public about it long ago, Jeano. There have been many warning of the
government-corporate collusion to diminish our freedoms, ruin our natural
environment for profit, and make produce a false democracy.
Strange logic that seem
to prevail somehow. But you know how these people are. If Saddam had
stayed, and had competed with Iran for the bomb, Bunk would say good, it
is the fault of the US. To get him with a unanimous resolution that
called for it, and then betrayed it, indirectly justifying and supporting
the terrorists, because of the very corruption with Saddam Chenney was
talking about, again, Bunk says good, it is the fault of the US.
I don't like dictators of any flavor, Jeano, including you and Steven. Any
fantatical, fascist, tyrannical personages can take a flying leap off a
cliff!
Gee, whatever the terrorists do now by hate of their Muslim sect
counterpart in Iraq, if the US doesn't help crush the terrorists fueling
this, as Chenney said, then they will then turn against the West by
greater hate even for Christians and Jews, in a much more forceful way
(which is hard to imgine given what they do to each others in the name of
the same faith - I guess to get the same bunch of little girls), but
again, Bunk will say, good, it is the fault of the US. Here, again he is
jumping of joy that Iran's game is uncovered at last, because he can say
(yes you guessed it:), it's the fault of the US.
Cheney is a sullen, bullying, arrogant fucker, Jeano, and hugely
antagonistic toward anyone who opposes his viewpoints. He never ran for
politcal office, even at the lowest level. He sought repeated deferments
to stay out of the military (and yet he was a defense secretary). He has
profited greatly through Halliburton in no-bid contracts (via a blind
trust). Are you sure the Cheney you wanna' suck on, is the same Cheney I
wanna kick around? LOL!
This Iranian second Hitler, who, like the first one, promotes
anitsemitism and attacks his neighbor, he cheers, and says, it's the US
fault, whatever the US does about it, ot the Syrian Baathists who also
stir up their neughbor and have their antisemitism in common with the
Holocaust denier, it will always be "Good. It's the fault of the US." The
only thing that he will never ssay is good, is the good done by the US,
and summarly described by Chenney, that he will never say.
Well, Jeano, if you go to my website I have a cartoonish photo of that
'second Hitler' you describe, and see if you can understand how I feel
about his character. As I said, tyrants and arrogant asses are leaders who
do no good, and in the critical times we're in, they are moving us toward
catastrophe. Only things like impeachment and the due process of court
action, in this society, can stop the crazy ones here. Ahmadinejad will
most likely have to be stopped by his own people, or the clerics that
support him.
He freaks out because the vice-president is coherent.
Coherent? He throws a 'silent glaring fit' that is more appropriate to a
juvenile postering for a fight, not for the No. 2 power position. It's
disgraceful and scary to see a top executive resort to throwing expletives
at a congressman as he did in 2004, and get into a 'stare down' with a
news interviewer -- when he could just as easily helped his embattled
Bushy administration much by ignoring it, saying, 'NO comment!" or, "I
won't answer that. Next question, please."
The psychosis he sees
is his own. He is not alone, Bunk's psychosis though being the
terrorists' propaganda not his own, has gained popularity
You never had much popularity in politics, Jeano, that's obvious. You're a
fringe fanatic. Maybe you're just pissed you can't get even 2% to agree
with your views politically, but, if I were you, I'd go and find all those
few who supported you, try to get a Jeano Cult started, and then go on an
ugly persecution of 'blasphemers' and 'heretics' ... of which I'd likely
be one in your warped view. Maybe you can be successful one day, and burn
people like me on the stake. I only ask that you splash me with my
favorite honey sesame sauce before you cook me well done. LOL!
because the media buys it
because they don't look for logic but for shocking, and this lack of
integrity permeates the masses in the days where everything is media
driven. Flawless logic smeared by US haters, again, the US fault, and
lots of Americans are fooled by what the media feed them when they come
home, not only the jokes led by comedians (that have nonetheless a better
sense of humor than him in their other endeavour), unfortunately, but by
thenews media that picks those who criticize their leader and ignore the
others, because it is more "popular" no matter where this leads.
Sure Bush has had flaws, but socially, it is Clinton who destroyed
welfare, and Americans are not about to go back and keep their Human
rights commitment on that given the most recent poll, & ecologically, he
is going back to logic, and focusses on the long term bidding on new
energy more than
The US government has made numerous bad policy decisions domestically and
internationally for decades. It is no better or worse than the now dead
civilizations which preceded it. The USSR being the latest in a long line
of failed systems because of the core behavioral nastiness of humans. This
one will be gone some day, too, and whether it be sooner or later, depends
on many factors. I'd say it will be sooner than most anyone would care to
seriously contemplate now.
any president ever did. Tries to guarantee medicare to 100 million more.
A step ion the right direction. What do the dems offer bnesides
criticism, I mean in terms of solution that would be better than that
besides offering a disastrous retreat in Iraq because of this bias the
media has created? They vote to prevent troops from going in support of
each others, when all the while until now they had criticized the
administration for not sending enough of them.
Both parties are beholden to large corporate monied interests, Jeano, and
you should know that. It is not a question of political absolutism or
altruism we liberals seek, but specific action against a current and
growing threat to our freedoms, a threat to true democracy, the
perpetuation of unneeded pre-emptive warfare, the deterioration of our
environment, and the constant commercially motivated interference in the
sovereignty and destinies of the peoples of this world. No one has all the
answers, but continued violence and division isn't going to produce
anything but a reality that has gone before our times. If we want to have
another reality for our future times, cooperation and understanding among
divided ideologies will have to come about. The present leadership is
'more of the same' that has permeated the human hierarchies of the
millenia of civilization. I don't know how the basic nature of humanity
can be effectively changed to get better results. It is a huge task and
complex. But having one more 'lovely little war' isn't going to get us
there. It is perhaps because so many have never experienced the horror of
warfare in their pristine cultures, it makes it so supportable, even
glorious and romantic. The American culture glorifies violence, and that
fact reflects on the collective psyche of a people -- making it prone to
accepting violence as a solution to what it hates and fears. But hate and
fear are manipulated by the powers to be, and we cannot be always sure of
the who may be our greatest enemy, in the midst of propaganda, fanaticism,
hysteria. As Roosevelt once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear
itself."
Some of these things are indeed the US fault this time, but
not those their detractor says. None are the making of the president,
except maybe the delay of coming around to a better ecological future.
This is not so much so anymore, and it is about time, and credit for that
is shared and lean towards an ex-dem contender. Maybe he didn't invent
the internet, but Gore was indeed a pioneer in that political field that
is ecology. This is what is good about them, Gore, now that he hasn't
given up on this idea but has gone further with it.
The buck stops at the highest office of the politcal landscape, Jeano.
Bush is the man responsible for the decisions made, the policies carried
out by executive power. He started the Iraq War, as he just started an air
war on Somalia (that has killed many civilians), and he's moving toward
getting some kind of war going with Iran and Syria. War is all we
Americans have heard since these shits took office, and fear of terrorist
strikes, alerts, evacuations, false alarms galore. If you think we can
continue to keep our equilibrium and sanity as a people for the many
years, or decades to come, and keep living this way, then you are insane.
This is insane life, an insane future to look at, and insane leaders. But,
since you obviously have a 'vested interest' in porttraying the future as
a forboding place of great war and suffering, and then liberation
supernaturally, with Jews being a key 'good guy' player admidst all the
antichrist influences around them, it stands to reason you support Bush's
stupid war, or want to spread stories about Iran being the next bad guy
the US must fight against. Your interpretations of prophecies color your
present and future...and I have only guesses as to why you've gotten into
this frame of mind. Suffice to say, you're a sick man with a tyrannical
bent who seems to be stuffed full of hate and arrogance.
The rest have only criticism to bring, but this guy, I am not shy to
recognize him, THIS is good about them. But who would recognize the good
of the present adminsitration publically? Who is not affraid of giving to
Cesar what belongs to Cesar, because of the influence of the smearing
media circus? All this makes me think of the new Apple ads, comparing the
PC with the MAC. People buy their questionable logic, and it is very
eloquent, but only because it is Apple who run the ad. Bill gates runs
the show and is hated. Well now that he has given so much, maybe he is
not that much smeared anymore. Anyway, you get my drift, yes?
J.
Yeah, it was a fucking long journey through your rant, but after extreme
exhaustion, I more than get your drift, Jeano.
LOL!
Docrodile
See, you can have some rationality and make some sense in your diatribe when
you try. Not sure you will ever become objective, but hey, at least you
could put a relatively captivating case if you weren't so specious. About
Nostradamus' prophecies about Iran, you should know that it is not something
I choose personally, a quarter of a century ago (and since) it was obvious
that Iran would lead the next world war, from Nostradamus' texts, and it was
far from obvious politically then. In fact, it was revealed almost 500 years
ago but everything else had to happen before we could see the forest from
the trees. About the Greens, or whatever fan club you fear I have, you have
no clue about me. I am not looking for fame or glory but for the truth. And
this perception I have about teh UN power to sanction the course of world
affairs, was genuinely Green 20 years ago, when the cold war was grasping
every aspect of politics, but now the Western government have adopted most
of our ideas and are going for the rest, and yet their politics clashes with
the Greens of today. If you look at the first Green program I wrote, it is
exactly what I believe in and achieved, but today the future is jeopardized
by something else that no one can address, and that only Nostradamus could
have seen coming so long beforehand, hence why we're heading where we're
going. There are other threats that go hand in hand with the big one. It was
unthinkable then, to give you an example, the corruption in such high
offices as the UN and the SC. But this is what makes blaming those who
address this threat and disregarding its real unavoidability in motion, in
the name of the peace tactics that worked with the previous threat, crazy,
because it can't work. But anyway, back to your delusion, no, I have no
followers, I seek no followers because I cannot change the future, I don't
know where you get this idea (outside your own self-agrandizement dreams
maybe?). I always have absolute rationality for my assesment, because I have
no personal stake in the greater scheme besides this faith in the original
(Green) dream; what enimity I have is against the absurdity that it is
jeopardized by the population itself on both sides now, not their leaders
who are most often mocked. I don't know why so many people in the Western
world are so angry at those who try to stop the madness, it merely does
explain me about the reason why the future will be so bleak. But there is no
logic. How could I share this with would-be followers? There is no solution
to the known future. If I lied, I could pretend there is one, to get
whatever followers you say you think I seek? The truth is that what I know
of the future is not from my own cleverness, but from the Almighty through
the Seer. And if I just see a little better daily how it can unfold to where
it is going to go, it is by sustaining or undergoing the fate of humanity.
It is strange to see it jeopardized despite the potential. The people are
the ones who create the smog, they are the ones who indirectly pay for the
spies in Iraq, short of following the logic of an hydrogen civilization I
was promoting back in 78 with an exhibition in the Desjardins Complex of
Montréal. There may be some solution to whatever is part of the unknown
destiny, but it is wasted by this rage everybody has out of the blue (look
at you for instance) against their peers for their own self-justification. I
can't but merely comment on it. I cannot lead fools: who would listen? I can
only reason. People will follow... their heart.
J.
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<jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: 1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink. He's
love to see what Chenney described would happen there if the US doesn't
help put order there.
What you're talking about, complete break-down of order in Iraq,
is inevitable and completely caused by the neocons Bush and Company.
That which you support is the very thing which will cause the
entire mideast to erupt in war... but perhaps you would like to
see this happen, yes ?
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"Perseid Rocks" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: 1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink. He's
love to see what Chenney described would happen there if the US doesn't
help put order there.
What you're talking about, complete break-down of order in Iraq,
is inevitable and completely caused by the neocons Bush and Company.
That which you support is the very thing which will cause the
entire mideast to erupt in war... but perhaps you would like to
see this happen, yes ?
Only in your dreams.
If there is breakdown, it is Iran and Syria's fault who fuel terrorism in
Iraq as well as AlQeda.
That which I support is the rule of law.
J.
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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"Perseid Rocks" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> a écrit dans le message
de news: Xns98C5C68F2A92rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: 1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Only in your dreams.
If there is breakdown, it is Iran and Syria's fault who fuel terrorism
in Iraq as well as AlQeda.
That which I support is the rule of law.
J.
Hey, Stevie and Jeano, don't you two forget the US's major contribution in
fueling terrorism, too!!! LOL!
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27 Jan 2007 04:29:35 PM |
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You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink. He's
love to see what Chenney described would happen there if the US
doesn't
help put order there.
What you're talking about, complete break-down of order in Iraq,
is inevitable and completely caused by the neocons Bush and Company.
That which you support is the very thing which will cause the
entire mideast to erupt in war... but perhaps you would like to
see this happen, yes ?
Only in your dreams.
If there is breakdown, it is Iran and Syria's fault who fuel terrorism
in
Iraq as well as AlQeda.
There was no chance of 'breakdown' before Bush invaded
with his legions. You think this has all been a good thing,
that is, until you are required to sacrifice yourself or
someone you care about. You think this war can never touch
you in such a remote place like Canada, but the Canadian
muslim populations still have significant ties to their
countries of origin. As a war like this escalates, more
and more resources, human, material, financial, are
poured into it. Your government, your society become
a shell as citizens and their produce are fed to the
meat-grinder. Your life becomes empty, hollow, until
the day arrives when you are fed to the beast as well.
That which I support is the rule of law.
J.
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"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> a =E9crit dans le message de new=
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Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink.
Yes, I've noticed that about the guy. He refers to himself as "Doc"=20
because he actually believe's he's some kind of doctor -- talk about=20
psychosis.
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27 Jan 2007 12:29:38 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 27, 12:00 am, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:
1169876127.228866.137...@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
You know Blunt, Steven, he is so deluded thinks he is a shrink.
Yes, I've noticed that about the guy. He refers to himself as "Doc"
because he actually believe's he's some kind of doctor -- talk about
psychosis.
Yeah, Stevie, you psycho, and you, too, Jeano, your psycho deluxe, let's
talk about psychosis. LOL!
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27 Jan 2007 12:36:38 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
Did you see the interview on TV? Or, do you want to recreate it by
limiting the perspective to the transcript?
Some human traits, Stevie, are not evident in a verbatim transcript. You
can't see the facial expressions, hear the intonation of voice, or see the
body language.
If you've lived for awhile and experienced all kinds of people -- sane,
insane, neurotic, borderline personalities, drug addicts, et al -- you'd,
right away, understand what I clearly understood when I saw Cheney react
to a question about his gay daughter and new granddaughter.
Now, Stevie, Cheney is at an incredibly low point in popularity -- little
more than 2 of 10 approve of his handling of his job -- and has nothing
much to lose apparently by getting *****, going silent, and staring
at Wolf Blitzer for several long seconds. He's also a seasoned politician
who knows fully well that in his desperate situation -- a failed Iraq plan
and corruption issues -- that any media interviewer will attempt to elicit
a strong reaction to get some interesting news. Knowing both, he should've
easily slipped past that moment without the extreme reaction he gave, but
he didn't.
If you can fairly judge that the No. 2 power fucker in this government can
so overreact and still think he's of a healthy, normal mentality, then you
either didn't see the interview, can't understand the inappropriateness of
the reaction, or basically have lost all contact with reality yourself.
What Cheney said in reaction to that question, on paper, doesn't appear
nearly as damning as seeing his behavior -- and understanding it from a
standpoint of experience in dealing with human bahavior of all kinds.
Apparently, you seem unable to understand that a No. 2 administrator isn't
mentally healthy when he tells Dennis Leahy to '*****' and adds '*****
you', as well, in front of legislators and others as he did in 2004.
If you saw his debate with John Edwards in Oct. 2004, he overreacted in
the same manner to Edwards bringing up his daughter's homosexuality.
Cheney has publicly claimed he accepts her sexuality and supports her, yet
is mysteriously pissed when someone even mentions her sexual orientation.
She went public. She's comfortable with it, and he has made statements,
and his wife, too, that they support their daughter. If someone had simply
said something like, 'Gee, Mr. Vice President, your gay daughter had a
little trouble getting pregnant with a lesbian"-- I could understand the
reaction. The question was appropriate, but it was meant to elicit a
reaction they hoped would make news ... because he had strongly reacted
before.
If Cheney was a normal, healthy, mature adult administrator he'd recognize
the media intent, and simply passed it off without incident. Prior to that
incident, he was already bantering and gruff with Blitzer on other issues.
If you can't see the psychotic behavior, the behavior of man that acts
more like a sullen, bullying teenager, then it really reflects on your
personality and perception. Judging from your long behavior here, and the
recent EMMANUEL recreation and ensuing long puerile argument you engaged
in with me, I think you and Dickie share some psychotic traits.
Docrodile
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/01/24/cheney.transcript.pdf
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
Not only that, as the Scooter Libby trial goes on it becomes
more clear just how involved and culpable Cheney has been in a
whole variety of criminal activities.
Cheney may end up spending the rest of his natural life in prison
(and he claimed he was so smart).
Impeach Bush, remove his Cabinet <snip>
We have to get rid of Cheney first, otherwise Cheney will just
pardon Bush.
Now there's a perfect example of an inability to face reality. One of
these days you'll realize the Democratic majority was put in place by
moderate voters, and the Democratic leadership knows their majority
will be short lived if they swerve too far to the left in their
governance.
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"Perseid Rocks" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
It's not necessarily psychosis because Cheney knows that what he's been
spewing is a pack of lies. A richly textured, tightly fitted, determinedly
rationalized house of cards that reality will eventually cause to flutter to
the ground.
No WMD in Iraq. No connections to Al Queda. No imminent threats. No
grettings as conquerors. Constant blunders made. Yup, Crooked *****, you've
got tons of crediblity.
The only thing that matters is that you admit no error and keep spewing the
same weak trash that flies in the face of the truth. Steven and Jean cling
to the same weak trash, the same house of cards. Why waste time in neocon
Wonderland? Pfffffffffff
Maybe they'll get lucky and pull a rabbit out of their hats in Iraq. Maybe
they'll get REALLY lucky and a war will erupt, all this debate will get
swept away by history and they'll be able to make lots of money. Most
likely us little guys would get shafted in a huge way.
Chuck Hegel for President.
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On Jan 27, 4:32 am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:Xns98C584D55047rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
It's not necessarily psychosis because Cheney knows that what he's been
spewing is a pack of lies. A richly textured, tightly fitted, determinedly
rationalized house of cards that reality will eventually cause to flutter to
the ground.
Doc's problem seems to be Cheney's reaction to his daughter's personal
life being used as a political pawn. Your response bears no connection
to Doc's point.
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
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27 Jan 2007 11:19:58 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 27, 4:32 am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C584D55047rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
It's not necessarily psychosis because Cheney knows that what he's been
spewing is a pack of lies. A richly textured, tightly fitted,
determinedly
rationalized house of cards that reality will eventually cause to
flutter to
the ground.
Doc's problem seems to be Cheney's reaction to his daughter's personal
life being used as a political pawn. Your response bears no connection
to Doc's point.
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
Oh Jesus...the Michael McDonald 'silent fit' syndrome. Pickin' at typo
errors...a sure sign the poster's slippin' into a puerile irrational
state. LOL!
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27 Jan 2007 03:49:45 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 27, 4:32 am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C584D55047rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169876127.228866.137640@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
Cheney, speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer, showed unmistakable signs
of psychosis.
Could you please point out the specific signs of psychosis you're
referring to?
It's not necessarily psychosis because Cheney knows that what he's
been
spewing is a pack of lies. A richly textured, tightly fitted,
determinedly
rationalized house of cards that reality will eventually cause to
flutter to
the ground.
Doc's problem seems to be Cheney's reaction to his daughter's personal
life being used as a political pawn. Your response bears no connection
to Doc's point.
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
Oh Jesus...the Michael McDonald 'silent fit' syndrome. Pickin' at typo
errors...a sure sign the poster's slippin' into a puerile irrational
state. LOL!
Yep, when ya can't respond to the point, start a pendantic
argument. I'd say Stephen does this in about 60% of his responses.
In the other 40% Stephen just has a brain fart and decides not
to make any sense at all.
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27 Jan 2007 04:30:19 PM |
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"Perseid Rocks" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
Oh Jesus...the Michael McDonald 'silent fit' syndrome. Pickin' at typo
errors...a sure sign the poster's slippin' into a puerile irrational
state. LOL!
Yep, when ya can't respond to the point, start a pendantic
argument. I'd say Stephen does this in about 60% of his responses.
In the other 40% Stephen just has a brain fart and decides not
to make any sense at all.
Did Steven correct my spelling for me.? I surely do appreciate that. I
guess I wasn't watching the captions on the news reports closely enough
while this decorated former Army sergeant was passionately blistering
President Chimp in committee hearings last week.
How else is our little neocon going to respond when the cream of the
Republican crop engages in withering criticism of the cream of the monkey
elite?
Glad to have Mr. HAGEL and a highly decorated ex-marine, Jim WEBB, in the
Senate to show our Texas Champagne Squadron National Guard Flyboy Monkey
President how to "move". :-)
I stand gratefully corrected.
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27 Jan 2007 07:51:10 PM |
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On Jan 27, 2:30 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
Oh Jesus...the Michael McDonald 'silent fit' syndrome. Pickin' at typo
errors...a sure sign the poster's slippin' into a puerile irrational
state. LOL!
Yep, when ya can't respond to the point, start a pendantic
argument. I'd say Stephen does this in about 60% of his responses.
In the other 40% Stephen just has a brain fart and decides not
to make any sense at all.Did Steven correct my spelling for me.? I surely do appreciate that. I
guess I wasn't watching the captions on the news reports closely enough
while this decorated former Army sergeant was passionately blistering
President Chimp in committee hearings last week.
How else is our little neocon going to respond when the cream of the
Republican crop engages in withering criticism of the cream of the monkey
elite?
Glad to have Mr. HAGEL and a highly decorated ex-marine, Jim WEBB, in the
Senate to show our Texas Champagne Squadron National Guard Flyboy Monkey
President how to "move". :-)
I stand gratefully corrected.
You're welcome.
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| User: "Perseid Rocks" |
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| Title: Re: Iranian opposition group claims Iran has thousands of agents (31,690 names released!) in Iraq (AP) |
28 Jan 2007 12:31:55 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jan 27, 2:30 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
Oh Jesus...the Michael McDonald 'silent fit' syndrome. Pickin' at
typo errors...a sure sign the poster's slippin' into a puerile
irrational state. LOL!
Yep, when ya can't respond to the point, start a pendantic
argument. I'd say Stephen does this in about 60% of his responses.
In the other 40% Stephen just has a brain fart and decides not
to make any sense at all.Did Steven correct my spelling for me.? I
surely do appreciate that. I
guess I wasn't watching the captions on the news reports closely enough
while this decorated former Army sergeant was passionately blistering
President Chimp in committee hearings last week.
How else is our little neocon going to respond when the cream of the
Republican crop engages in withering criticism of the cream of the
monkey elite?
Glad to have Mr. HAGEL and a highly decorated ex-marine, Jim WEBB, in
the Senate to show our Texas Champagne Squadron National Guard Flyboy
Monkey President how to "move". :-)
I stand gratefully corrected.
You're welcome.
It's nice of you to point out spelling mistakes. Back to the
real issue though, it's not just hagal opposing the iraq surge.
Senator John Warner is about the most listened-to republican in
the Senate, and he's done an about-face on the whole iraq thing.
This leaves you continuing to support US troop presence in Iraq ?
You support US troops dodging bullets from sunnis intended for
shias, yes ?
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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28 Jan 2007 08:56:24 AM |
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"Perseid Rocks" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98C5EF61A70C4rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jan 27, 2:30 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
It's nice of you to point out spelling mistakes. Back to the
real issue though, it's not just hagal opposing the iraq surge.
Senator John Warner is about the most listened-to republican in
the Senate, and he's done an about-face on the whole iraq thing.
This leaves you continuing to support US troop presence in Iraq ?
You support US troops dodging bullets from sunnis intended for
shias, yes ?
I think Stevie is so...socially concerned. He has to point these things
out since he fears no one else will. And the official record will contain
awful 'errors.'
Yes, I think Mr. Haigill is interesting, too...
Docrodile
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28 Jan 2007 01:11:59 AM |
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On Jan 27, 10:31 pm, Perseid Rocks <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net>
wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jan 27, 2:30 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Chuck Hegel for President.
The man's name is Hagel. If you're going to vote for someone for
president, you should know his name -- don't you think?
Oh Jesus...the Michael McDonald 'silent fit' syndrome. Pickin' at
typo errors...a sure sign the poster's slippin' into a puerile
irrational state. LOL!
Yep, when ya can't respond to the point, start a pendantic
argument. I'd say Stephen does this in about 60% of his responses.
In the other 40% Stephen just has a brain fart and decides not
to make any sense at all.Did Steven correct my spelling for me.? I
surely do appreciate that. I
guess I wasn't watching the captions on the news reports closely enough
while this decorated former Army sergeant was passionately blistering
President Chimp in committee hearings last week.
How else is our little neocon going to respond when the cream of the
Republican crop engages in withering criticism of the cream of the
monkey elite?
Glad to have Mr. HAGEL and a highly decorated ex-marine, Jim WEBB, in
the Senate to show our Texas Champagne Squadron National Guard Flyboy
Monkey President how to "move". :-)
I stand gratefully corrected.
You're welcome.
It's nice of you to point out spelling mistakes. Back to the
real issue though, it's not just hagal opposing the iraq surge.
Senator John Warner is about the most listened-to republican in
the Senate,
According to whom?
and he's done an about-face on the whole iraq thing.
This leaves you continuing to support US troop presence in Iraq ?
What? Because some Senator changes his mind, I'm supposed to change my
mind? I'm not allowed to have my own opinion? I must go with whatever
Senator Warner thinks? What about John McCain? Or Joe Lieberman? Or
others?
You support US troops dodging bullets from sunnis intended for
shias, yes ?
I support our troops defeating the terrorist insurgents in Iraq. You
support our defeat in Iraq, yes?
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28 Jan 2007 08:58:01 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169968319.399649.89100@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 27, 10:31 pm, Perseid Rocks <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net>
wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jan 27, 2:30 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Chuck Hegel for President.
You support US troops dodging bullets from sunnis intended for
shias, yes ?
I support our troops defeating the terrorist insurgents in Iraq. You
support our defeat in Iraq, yes?
It's Bush that is the biggest 'supporter' of the US's defeat...and not
just in Iraq.
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28 Jan 2007 04:22:49 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169968319.399649.89100@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 27, 10:31 pm, Perseid Rocks <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net>
wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jan 27, 2:30 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid Rocks" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in
messagenews:Xns98C596D9BEE84rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169917545.822358.68500@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Chuck Hegel for President.
You support US troops dodging bullets from sunnis intended for
shias, yes ?
I support our troops defeating the terrorist insurgents in Iraq. You
support our defeat in Iraq, yes?
It's Bush that is the biggest 'supporter' of the US's defeat...and not
just in Iraq.
Stephen "supports our troops defeating the terrorist insurgents in Iraq."
In other words, he favors mass extermination of all Iraqis, because
they're all involved in it.... part of that no-win situation we were
telling Stevie about.
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28 Jan 2007 07:20:00 PM |
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On Jan 28, 2:22 pm, Perseid Rocks <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net>
wrote:
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