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User: ""
Date: 02 Apr 2006 04:21:06 PM
Object: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies!
Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea. And today in the news:
1. Iran for the 1st time comes up with the fastest underwater missile
in the world and invisilbe to radar,
2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds
3. And Iran is researching Nuclear capabilities and through Bush's new
deal with India is now RACING to develop them.
(Bush thinks USA's the only insecure nation when neighbors have Nuke
capabilities).
News at:
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/04/02/ap2640264.html
Quote:
"Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within days on
Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or warship can
escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S. over its nuclear
program...On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it successfully tested
the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit several targets
simultaneously using multiple warheads....Gen. Ali Fadavi, deputy head
of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships that fire the
Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that the torpedo -
moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude... It has a very
powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even if enemy warship
sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape from this missile
because of its high speed"
"Iran already possesses the Shahab-3 missile, capable of carrying a
nuclear warhead and hitting U.S forces in the Middle East. The upgraded
version of the ballistic Shahab-3 missile can travel about 1,200 miles,
putting Israel within easy range."
Nostradamus Prophecies about the full conquest of Europe/Isreal through
the Meditarean Sea can be found by doing a google search (google group
search maybe better) on "guskz fleet" or "guskz persia" or "guskz
Iran".
For Persia's Iraq/Iran to reach the Mediatarean Sea it would need
conquest or cooperation from Turkey and/or Persia and/or Lebanon.
.

User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamusprophecies! 05 Apr 2006 10:36:20 AM
wrote:

Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea. And today in the news:

How about posting the quatrains you're pulling
this from?
Woods
.

User: "The CO"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamusprophecies! 03 Apr 2006 03:29:53 AM
wrote:

Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea.

And was clearly having an off day when he did.

And today in the news:

1. Iran for the 1st time comes up with the fastest underwater missile
in the world and invisilbe to radar,

They *claim* to have a 225knot TORPEDO (which is what an 'underwater
missile' clearly is).
However your headline was something about 'Iran's New Fleet'. What
fleet would that be? A couple of hovercraft, some patrolboats and a
mouldy destroyer or two? Iran has no navy worthy of the name.
The suggestion that their 'new navy' 'outpower USA' is demonstrably
wrong and quite ludicrous. Would you care to retract?

2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds

Shame they don't have any nuclear warheads to go with them.

3. And Iran is researching Nuclear capabilities and through Bush's
new deal with India is now RACING to develop them. (Bush thinks USA's
the only insecure nation when neighbors have Nuke capabilities).

It doesn't matter.
The Iranians will never be permitted to have nuclear
weapons.
If they don't understand that yet, they will have to learn the
hard way.

News at:
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/04/02/ap2640264.html
Quote: "Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within
days on Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or
warship can escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S.

Which will help them not one bit if the launch platform is destroyed by
an ALCM before there is anything in range.

its nuclear program...On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it
successfully tested the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit
several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads....Gen. Ali
Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships
that fire the Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that
the torpedo - moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude...
It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even
if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape
from this missile because of its high speed"

So they'll sink anything that might carry it.
Before it can be employed. Too easy.
This of course assumes that the 'underwater missile' and the MIRV
and/or 'stealth' missile technology actually exists and is not an
exercise in propaganda for internal consumption.
Iran is no match for the USN or even the RN.
Iranian warships silly enough to put to sea in a shooting war with
the US will be decorating the bottom of the Persian Gulf long before
they can do anything useful.
This has been demonstrated previously.
You are probably an Iranian expatriate living in Canada having a wet
dream about the all powerful Iranian military destroying the USA.
But that's all it is. A wet dream. Very wet...
--
The CO
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 03 Apr 2006 07:02:05 AM
The CO wrote:

guskz@hotmail.com wrote:

Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea.


And was clearly having an off day when he did.

And today in the news:

1. Iran for the 1st time comes up with the fastest underwater missile
in the world and invisilbe to radar,


They *claim* to have a 225knot TORPEDO (which is what an 'underwater
missile' clearly is).

However your headline was something about 'Iran's New Fleet'. What
fleet would that be? A couple of hovercraft, some patrolboats and a
mouldy destroyer or two? Iran has no navy worthy of the name.
The suggestion that their 'new navy' 'outpower USA' is demonstrably
wrong and quite ludicrous. Would you care to retract?

I agree with you.
Yet they still have a new technology that outperforms that of USA and
may render *all* of the USA's fleet useless.
Meaning 200 SUPER POWER USA fleets worth Trillions of dollars (Same as
the twin New York Towers destroyed by a few terrorits and two planes)
destoyed in seconds by only 200 Iranian torpedoes, crippling (rather
eliminating) the USA's fleet, it's economy, and 70% of it's soldiers
(Trillions spent on these ships let alone all the soldiers on those
ships ...war planes only contain a few soldiers per plane... as opposed
to navy fleets).
I would also presume the same underwater torpedo and radar evasion
technology can be adapted for missiles attacking war planes and large
cargo planes holding large numbers of US soldiers.
If Iran could indeed adapt there torpedo & radar evasion technology
(dense water) to missiles (light air) they may also render the entire
USA's war planes useless before the planes even reach the Iranian
borders (let alone fly into and over Iran)......

2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds


Shame they don't have any nuclear warheads to go with them.

I believe that's balloney. Iran trades excessively with North Korea,
whom like China are in need of Iranian Oil.
North Korea sold Nukes to India and Pakistan, and obviously Iran.
India and Pakistan would have kept it a secret, the only reason they
announced they had one was to intimidate each other during their war
together....even Libya bought Nukes from North Korea but then gave them
to the USA for destruction.
Now Iran is racing to build more, especially because Bush agreed to
help provide India with more Nuke capabilities.


3. And Iran is researching Nuclear capabilities and through Bush's
new deal with India is now RACING to develop them. (Bush thinks USA's
the only insecure nation when neighbors have Nuke capabilities).


It doesn't matter.
The Iranians will never be permitted to have nuclear
weapons.
If they don't understand that yet, they will have to learn the
hard way.

That's what Saddam said, who also had superior technology as compared
to Iran, until Iran invaded Baghdad.


News at:
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/04/02/ap2640264.html
Quote: "Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within
days on Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or
warship can escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S.


Which will help them not one bit if the launch platform is destroyed by
an ALCM before there is anything in range.

Most probably.... yet Iran declared they have 100% radar evasion
torpedoes, maybe not too hard to adpat the same technology to missiles
(at 200 miles/sec would take 5 to 10 seconds to reach as far as Italy).


its nuclear program...On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it
successfully tested the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit
several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads....Gen. Ali
Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships
that fire the Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that
the torpedo - moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude...
It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even
if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape
from this missile because of its high speed"


So they'll sink anything that might carry it.
Before it can be employed. Too easy.

This of course assumes that the 'underwater missile' and the MIRV
and/or 'stealth' missile technology actually exists and is not an
exercise in propaganda for internal consumption.
Iran is no match for the USN or even the RN.
Iranian warships silly enough to put to sea in a shooting war with
the US will be decorating the bottom of the Persian Gulf long before
they can do anything useful.

This has been demonstrated previously.

You are probably an Iranian expatriate living in Canada having a wet
dream about the all powerful Iranian military destroying the USA.
But that's all it is. A wet dream. Very wet...

I'm a Christian not a Muslem.
All we know now is that there is war tension between:
Iraq and USA, Iran and USA, Palestine and USA, Syria and USA (more
unfriendly then war at present), 30% of Afghanistan and USA, CHINA and
TAIWAN, THAILAND and itself, Pakistan and India , 40% Pakistan(with
Afghanistan) and Pakistan government (Pakistan was part of India once
likewise might happen with 40% of Pakistan).
All these may lead to another World War.....(things were calm with
Germany for a while until World War2).
The real out break would begin "IF" China wars with Taiwan and USA
takes Taiwan's side.
China with it's billions of soldiers was never a super power and it's
economy has been poor for the last 100 years, only NOW is it's economy
QUADRUPLING each two years.
Many of these regions have been hit by God through Earthquakes (Two on
Two different Christmas days as a sign for Christians) maybe signs of
God trying to quelch and postpone some war idiology from the
muslems....same as one trying to stop kids from punching each other but
once the kids become fully angry then he just leaves them at their
goals.
In Revelation God punishes people by Earthquakes and Upheavals
***just*** before they war with each other at Armageddon.


--
The CO

Of course this may neve happen or until years far away or not, all we
have is the tons of prophecies from Nostradamus on an invasion from
Persia through the Meditarean Sea (Google Group search guskz and persia
or iran for the prophecies)
Persia's Iraq/Iran would need cooperation or conquest of Turkey and/or
Syria and/or Lebanon to reach the Mediatarean Sea.
--------------------------------------
For the Beast is a beast like the goat and ram beast in daniel, for it
is an past empire.
For the Beast is, is not, and yet is(Resurected empire) for it will
climb out of the bottomless pit (where it was cast) and return.
666 is the 6th seal: God punishes people who run to the rocks ask the
rocks to hide and protect them from his wrath.
6th Trumpet and 6th Vial: Four angels of the Apocalypse are released
(unbound) from under the Euphrates River and 600 million soldiers East
of the Euphrates cross the newly dried river to attack Isreal.
Book of Enoch: Trangressing Angels are bound by God under the Earth
for 10,000 years and a prophecy they will be loosed to stir Persians
into war with Isreal. (Google Group search guskz and Enoch)
.
User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 04 Apr 2006 09:01:09 PM
<guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1144065724.974519.78120@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


The CO wrote:

guskz@hotmail.com wrote:

Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea.


And was clearly having an off day when he did.

And today in the news:

1. Iran for the 1st time comes up with the fastest underwater missile
in the world and invisilbe to radar,


They *claim* to have a 225knot TORPEDO (which is what an 'underwater
missile' clearly is).

However your headline was something about 'Iran's New Fleet'. What
fleet would that be? A couple of hovercraft, some patrolboats and a
mouldy destroyer or two? Iran has no navy worthy of the name.
The suggestion that their 'new navy' 'outpower USA' is demonstrably
wrong and quite ludicrous. Would you care to retract?


I agree with you.

Yet they still have a new technology that outperforms that of USA and
may render *all* of the USA's fleet useless.

Meaning 200 SUPER POWER USA fleets worth Trillions of dollars (Same as
the twin New York Towers destroyed by a few terrorits and two planes)
destoyed in seconds by only 200 Iranian torpedoes, crippling (rather
eliminating) the USA's fleet, it's economy, and 70% of it's soldiers
(Trillions spent on these ships let alone all the soldiers on those
ships ...war planes only contain a few soldiers per plane... as opposed
to navy fleets).

I would also presume the same underwater torpedo and radar evasion
technology can be adapted for missiles attacking war planes and large
cargo planes holding large numbers of US soldiers.

If Iran could indeed adapt there torpedo & radar evasion technology
(dense water) to missiles (light air) they may also render the entire
USA's war planes useless before the planes even reach the Iranian
borders (let alone fly into and over Iran)......


2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds


Shame they don't have any nuclear warheads to go with them.


I believe that's balloney. Iran trades excessively with North Korea,
whom like China are in need of Iranian Oil.
North Korea sold Nukes to India and Pakistan, and obviously Iran.

India and Pakistan would have kept it a secret, the only reason they
announced they had one was to intimidate each other during their war
together....even Libya bought Nukes from North Korea but then gave them
to the USA for destruction.

Now Iran is racing to build more, especially because Bush agreed to
help provide India with more Nuke capabilities.


3. And Iran is researching Nuclear capabilities and through Bush's
new deal with India is now RACING to develop them. (Bush thinks USA's
the only insecure nation when neighbors have Nuke capabilities).


It doesn't matter.
The Iranians will never be permitted to have nuclear
weapons.
If they don't understand that yet, they will have to learn the
hard way.


That's what Saddam said, who also had superior technology as compared
to Iran, until Iran invaded Baghdad.



News at:
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/04/02/ap2640264.html
Quote: "Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within
days on Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or
warship can escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S.


Which will help them not one bit if the launch platform is destroyed by
an ALCM before there is anything in range.


Most probably.... yet Iran declared they have 100% radar evasion
torpedoes, maybe not too hard to adpat the same technology to missiles
(at 200 miles/sec would take 5 to 10 seconds to reach as far as Italy).


its nuclear program...On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it
successfully tested the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit
several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads....Gen. Ali
Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships
that fire the Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that
the torpedo - moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude...
It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even
if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape
from this missile because of its high speed"


So they'll sink anything that might carry it.
Before it can be employed. Too easy.

This of course assumes that the 'underwater missile' and the MIRV
and/or 'stealth' missile technology actually exists and is not an
exercise in propaganda for internal consumption.
Iran is no match for the USN or even the RN.
Iranian warships silly enough to put to sea in a shooting war with
the US will be decorating the bottom of the Persian Gulf long before
they can do anything useful.

This has been demonstrated previously.

You are probably an Iranian expatriate living in Canada having a wet
dream about the all powerful Iranian military destroying the USA.
But that's all it is. A wet dream. Very wet...


I'm a Christian not a Muslem.

All we know now is that there is war tension between:

Iraq and USA, Iran and USA, Palestine and USA, Syria and USA (more
unfriendly then war at present), 30% of Afghanistan and USA, CHINA and
TAIWAN, THAILAND and itself, Pakistan and India , 40% Pakistan(with
Afghanistan) and Pakistan government (Pakistan was part of India once
likewise might happen with 40% of Pakistan).

All these may lead to another World War.....(things were calm with
Germany for a while until World War2).

The real out break would begin "IF" China wars with Taiwan and USA
takes Taiwan's side.

China with it's billions of soldiers was never a super power and it's
economy has been poor for the last 100 years, only NOW is it's economy
QUADRUPLING each two years.

Many of these regions have been hit by God through Earthquakes (Two on
Two different Christmas days as a sign for Christians) maybe signs of
God trying to quelch and postpone some war idiology from the
muslems....same as one trying to stop kids from punching each other but
once the kids become fully angry then he just leaves them at their
goals.

In Revelation God punishes people by Earthquakes and Upheavals
***just*** before they war with each other at Armageddon.



--
The CO


Of course this may neve happen or until years far away or not, all we
have is the tons of prophecies from Nostradamus on an invasion from
Persia through the Meditarean Sea (Google Group search guskz and persia
or iran for the prophecies)

Persia's Iraq/Iran would need cooperation or conquest of Turkey and/or
Syria and/or Lebanon to reach the Mediatarean Sea.

--------------------------------------

For the Beast is a beast like the goat and ram beast in daniel, for it
is an past empire.

For the Beast is, is not, and yet is(Resurected empire) for it will
climb out of the bottomless pit (where it was cast) and return.

666 is the 6th seal: God punishes people who run to the rocks ask the
rocks to hide and protect them from his wrath.

6th Trumpet and 6th Vial: Four angels of the Apocalypse are released
(unbound) from under the Euphrates River and 600 million soldiers East
of the Euphrates cross the newly dried river to attack Isreal.


Book of Enoch: Trangressing Angels are bound by God under the Earth
for 10,000 years and a prophecy they will be loosed to stir Persians
into war with Isreal. (Google Group search guskz and Enoch)

Iran's fleet of tubs and aging air force would be neutralized in 3 days. As would their heavy
artillary. The human wave attacks into southern Iraq would be a whole 'nother matter. Like Saddam,
it'll take WMD (tactical nukes) to eliminate the threat.
.
User: "eric"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 04 Apr 2006 09:51:05 PM
Hey, long time, no hear, Stooge.
We were just talking about what a total Idiot u r. Hey, do u want to
come back to the group, and be the new Village Idiot? Not been the
same since the Guernon left..., and although u were our second choice,
our third choice wasn't totally off his rocker, and ignorant
enough...so if you're back...it's just fair to warn u...u rank high on
people's list as the new Village Idiot. I know u would consider it an
honour, but I hope you're not too humble to accept the post..
eric.
P.S. is this really the Stooge, Dreamer? I mean, come on!! U would
think that guy would be just too damned embarassed to come back and
post here! But then again, he is an idiot.
.
User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 05 Apr 2006 08:40:55 PM
"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144205465.081077.265320@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Hey, long time, no hear, Stooge.

We were just talking about what a total Idiot u r. Hey, do u want to
come back to the group, and be the new Village Idiot? Not been the
same since the Guernon left..., and although u were our second choice,
our third choice wasn't totally off his rocker, and ignorant
enough...so if you're back...it's just fair to warn u...u rank high on
people's list as the new Village Idiot. I know u would consider it an
honour, but I hope you're not too humble to accept the post..

eric.
P.S. is this really the Stooge, Dreamer? I mean, come on!! U would
think that guy would be just too damned embarassed to come back and
post here! But then again, he is an idiot.

Harper............nice.
.
User: "eric"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 05 Apr 2006 09:26:10 PM
nice minority...and I for one welcome a change in government...after
over a decade of one-party-rule it was time for a change....
So, u want the job of Village Idiot, Stooge, or not? You have all the
qualifications...and the consensus seemed to be that you would excel at
the job.
.



User: "ass"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 04 Apr 2006 09:27:48 PM
I wish you would sniff my bum for me......
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.com> wrote in message
news:3d1d9$443332ed$4076283c$29312@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com...


<guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144065724.974519.78120@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


The CO wrote:

guskz@hotmail.com wrote:

Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea.


And was clearly having an off day when he did.

And today in the news:

1. Iran for the 1st time comes up with the fastest underwater missile
in the world and invisilbe to radar,


They *claim* to have a 225knot TORPEDO (which is what an 'underwater
missile' clearly is).

However your headline was something about 'Iran's New Fleet'. What
fleet would that be? A couple of hovercraft, some patrolboats and a
mouldy destroyer or two? Iran has no navy worthy of the name.
The suggestion that their 'new navy' 'outpower USA' is demonstrably
wrong and quite ludicrous. Would you care to retract?


I agree with you.

Yet they still have a new technology that outperforms that of USA and
may render *all* of the USA's fleet useless.

Meaning 200 SUPER POWER USA fleets worth Trillions of dollars (Same as
the twin New York Towers destroyed by a few terrorits and two planes)
destoyed in seconds by only 200 Iranian torpedoes, crippling (rather
eliminating) the USA's fleet, it's economy, and 70% of it's soldiers
(Trillions spent on these ships let alone all the soldiers on those
ships ...war planes only contain a few soldiers per plane... as opposed
to navy fleets).

I would also presume the same underwater torpedo and radar evasion
technology can be adapted for missiles attacking war planes and large
cargo planes holding large numbers of US soldiers.

If Iran could indeed adapt there torpedo & radar evasion technology
(dense water) to missiles (light air) they may also render the entire
USA's war planes useless before the planes even reach the Iranian
borders (let alone fly into and over Iran)......


2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds


Shame they don't have any nuclear warheads to go with them.


I believe that's balloney. Iran trades excessively with North Korea,
whom like China are in need of Iranian Oil.
North Korea sold Nukes to India and Pakistan, and obviously Iran.

India and Pakistan would have kept it a secret, the only reason they
announced they had one was to intimidate each other during their war
together....even Libya bought Nukes from North Korea but then gave them
to the USA for destruction.

Now Iran is racing to build more, especially because Bush agreed to
help provide India with more Nuke capabilities.


3. And Iran is researching Nuclear capabilities and through Bush's
new deal with India is now RACING to develop them. (Bush thinks USA's
the only insecure nation when neighbors have Nuke capabilities).


It doesn't matter.
The Iranians will never be permitted to have nuclear
weapons.
If they don't understand that yet, they will have to learn the
hard way.


That's what Saddam said, who also had superior technology as compared
to Iran, until Iran invaded Baghdad.



News at:
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/04/02/ap2640264.html
Quote: "Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within
days on Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or
warship can escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S.


Which will help them not one bit if the launch platform is destroyed by
an ALCM before there is anything in range.


Most probably.... yet Iran declared they have 100% radar evasion
torpedoes, maybe not too hard to adpat the same technology to missiles
(at 200 miles/sec would take 5 to 10 seconds to reach as far as Italy).


its nuclear program...On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it
successfully tested the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit
several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads....Gen. Ali
Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships
that fire the Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that
the torpedo - moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude...
It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even
if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape
from this missile because of its high speed"


So they'll sink anything that might carry it.
Before it can be employed. Too easy.

This of course assumes that the 'underwater missile' and the MIRV
and/or 'stealth' missile technology actually exists and is not an
exercise in propaganda for internal consumption.
Iran is no match for the USN or even the RN.
Iranian warships silly enough to put to sea in a shooting war with
the US will be decorating the bottom of the Persian Gulf long before
they can do anything useful.

This has been demonstrated previously.

You are probably an Iranian expatriate living in Canada having a wet
dream about the all powerful Iranian military destroying the USA.
But that's all it is. A wet dream. Very wet...


I'm a Christian not a Muslem.

All we know now is that there is war tension between:

Iraq and USA, Iran and USA, Palestine and USA, Syria and USA (more
unfriendly then war at present), 30% of Afghanistan and USA, CHINA and
TAIWAN, THAILAND and itself, Pakistan and India , 40% Pakistan(with
Afghanistan) and Pakistan government (Pakistan was part of India once
likewise might happen with 40% of Pakistan).

All these may lead to another World War.....(things were calm with
Germany for a while until World War2).

The real out break would begin "IF" China wars with Taiwan and USA
takes Taiwan's side.

China with it's billions of soldiers was never a super power and it's
economy has been poor for the last 100 years, only NOW is it's economy
QUADRUPLING each two years.

Many of these regions have been hit by God through Earthquakes (Two on
Two different Christmas days as a sign for Christians) maybe signs of
God trying to quelch and postpone some war idiology from the
muslems....same as one trying to stop kids from punching each other but
once the kids become fully angry then he just leaves them at their
goals.

In Revelation God punishes people by Earthquakes and Upheavals
***just*** before they war with each other at Armageddon.



--
The CO


Of course this may neve happen or until years far away or not, all we
have is the tons of prophecies from Nostradamus on an invasion from
Persia through the Meditarean Sea (Google Group search guskz and persia
or iran for the prophecies)

Persia's Iraq/Iran would need cooperation or conquest of Turkey and/or
Syria and/or Lebanon to reach the Mediatarean Sea.

--------------------------------------

For the Beast is a beast like the goat and ram beast in daniel, for it
is an past empire.

For the Beast is, is not, and yet is(Resurected empire) for it will
climb out of the bottomless pit (where it was cast) and return.

666 is the 6th seal: God punishes people who run to the rocks ask the
rocks to hide and protect them from his wrath.

6th Trumpet and 6th Vial: Four angels of the Apocalypse are released
(unbound) from under the Euphrates River and 600 million soldiers East
of the Euphrates cross the newly dried river to attack Isreal.


Book of Enoch: Trangressing Angels are bound by God under the Earth
for 10,000 years and a prophecy they will be loosed to stir Persians
into war with Isreal. (Google Group search guskz and Enoch)


Iran's fleet of tubs and aging air force would be neutralized in 3 days.
As would their heavy artillary. The human wave attacks into southern Iraq
would be a whole 'nother matter. Like Saddam, it'll take WMD (tactical
nukes) to eliminate the threat.

.
User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 05 Apr 2006 08:42:41 PM
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I wish you would sniff my bum for me......

Ok. But you'll have to show me which end is which.





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The CO wrote:

guskz@hotmail.com wrote:

Nostradamus strangely predicted tons of prophecies where Persia
(Iraq&Iran) over powers France/Italy/Greece (Britain/USA) in the
Meditarean Sea.


And was clearly having an off day when he did.

And today in the news:

1. Iran for the 1st time comes up with the fastest underwater missile
in the world and invisilbe to radar,


They *claim* to have a 225knot TORPEDO (which is what an 'underwater
missile' clearly is).

However your headline was something about 'Iran's New Fleet'. What
fleet would that be? A couple of hovercraft, some patrolboats and a
mouldy destroyer or two? Iran has no navy worthy of the name.
The suggestion that their 'new navy' 'outpower USA' is demonstrably
wrong and quite ludicrous. Would you care to retract?


I agree with you.

Yet they still have a new technology that outperforms that of USA and
may render *all* of the USA's fleet useless.

Meaning 200 SUPER POWER USA fleets worth Trillions of dollars (Same as
the twin New York Towers destroyed by a few terrorits and two planes)
destoyed in seconds by only 200 Iranian torpedoes, crippling (rather
eliminating) the USA's fleet, it's economy, and 70% of it's soldiers
(Trillions spent on these ships let alone all the soldiers on those
ships ...war planes only contain a few soldiers per plane... as opposed
to navy fleets).

I would also presume the same underwater torpedo and radar evasion
technology can be adapted for missiles attacking war planes and large
cargo planes holding large numbers of US soldiers.

If Iran could indeed adapt there torpedo & radar evasion technology
(dense water) to missiles (light air) they may also render the entire
USA's war planes useless before the planes even reach the Iranian
borders (let alone fly into and over Iran)......


2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds


Shame they don't have any nuclear warheads to go with them.


I believe that's balloney. Iran trades excessively with North Korea,
whom like China are in need of Iranian Oil.
North Korea sold Nukes to India and Pakistan, and obviously Iran.

India and Pakistan would have kept it a secret, the only reason they
announced they had one was to intimidate each other during their war
together....even Libya bought Nukes from North Korea but then gave them
to the USA for destruction.

Now Iran is racing to build more, especially because Bush agreed to
help provide India with more Nuke capabilities.


3. And Iran is researching Nuclear capabilities and through Bush's
new deal with India is now RACING to develop them. (Bush thinks USA's
the only insecure nation when neighbors have Nuke capabilities).


It doesn't matter.
The Iranians will never be permitted to have nuclear
weapons.
If they don't understand that yet, they will have to learn the
hard way.


That's what Saddam said, who also had superior technology as compared
to Iran, until Iran invaded Baghdad.



News at:
http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/feeds/ap/2006/04/02/ap2640264.html
Quote: "Iran conducted its second major test of a new missile within
days on Sunday, firing a high-speed torpedo it said no submarine or
warship can escape at a time of increased tensions with the U.S.


Which will help them not one bit if the launch platform is destroyed by
an ALCM before there is anything in range.


Most probably.... yet Iran declared they have 100% radar evasion
torpedoes, maybe not too hard to adpat the same technology to missiles
(at 200 miles/sec would take 5 to 10 seconds to reach as far as Italy).


its nuclear program...On the maneuvers' first day, Iran said it
successfully tested the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit
several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads....Gen. Ali
Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' navy, said the ships
that fire the Iranian-made Hoot had radar-evading technology and that
the torpedo - moving at 223 miles per hour - was too fast to elude...
It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even
if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape
from this missile because of its high speed"


So they'll sink anything that might carry it.
Before it can be employed. Too easy.

This of course assumes that the 'underwater missile' and the MIRV
and/or 'stealth' missile technology actually exists and is not an
exercise in propaganda for internal consumption.
Iran is no match for the USN or even the RN.
Iranian warships silly enough to put to sea in a shooting war with
the US will be decorating the bottom of the Persian Gulf long before
they can do anything useful.

This has been demonstrated previously.

You are probably an Iranian expatriate living in Canada having a wet
dream about the all powerful Iranian military destroying the USA.
But that's all it is. A wet dream. Very wet...


I'm a Christian not a Muslem.

All we know now is that there is war tension between:

Iraq and USA, Iran and USA, Palestine and USA, Syria and USA (more
unfriendly then war at present), 30% of Afghanistan and USA, CHINA and
TAIWAN, THAILAND and itself, Pakistan and India , 40% Pakistan(with
Afghanistan) and Pakistan government (Pakistan was part of India once
likewise might happen with 40% of Pakistan).

All these may lead to another World War.....(things were calm with
Germany for a while until World War2).

The real out break would begin "IF" China wars with Taiwan and USA
takes Taiwan's side.

China with it's billions of soldiers was never a super power and it's
economy has been poor for the last 100 years, only NOW is it's economy
QUADRUPLING each two years.

Many of these regions have been hit by God through Earthquakes (Two on
Two different Christmas days as a sign for Christians) maybe signs of
God trying to quelch and postpone some war idiology from the
muslems....same as one trying to stop kids from punching each other but
once the kids become fully angry then he just leaves them at their
goals.

In Revelation God punishes people by Earthquakes and Upheavals
***just*** before they war with each other at Armageddon.



--
The CO


Of course this may neve happen or until years far away or not, all we
have is the tons of prophecies from Nostradamus on an invasion from
Persia through the Meditarean Sea (Google Group search guskz and persia
or iran for the prophecies)

Persia's Iraq/Iran would need cooperation or conquest of Turkey and/or
Syria and/or Lebanon to reach the Mediatarean Sea.

--------------------------------------

For the Beast is a beast like the goat and ram beast in daniel, for it
is an past empire.

For the Beast is, is not, and yet is(Resurected empire) for it will
climb out of the bottomless pit (where it was cast) and return.

666 is the 6th seal: God punishes people who run to the rocks ask the
rocks to hide and protect them from his wrath.

6th Trumpet and 6th Vial: Four angels of the Apocalypse are released
(unbound) from under the Euphrates River and 600 million soldiers East
of the Euphrates cross the newly dried river to attack Isreal.


Book of Enoch: Trangressing Angels are bound by God under the Earth
for 10,000 years and a prophecy they will be loosed to stir Persians
into war with Isreal. (Google Group search guskz and Enoch)


Iran's fleet of tubs and aging air force would be neutralized in 3 days. As would their heavy
artillary. The human wave attacks into southern Iraq would be a whole 'nother matter. Like
Saddam, it'll take WMD (tactical nukes) to eliminate the threat.



.



User: "The CO"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamusprophecies! 04 Apr 2006 09:44:24 AM
wrote:

The CO wrote:

wrote:

However your headline was something about 'Iran's New Fleet'. What
fleet would that be? A couple of hovercraft, some patrolboats and a
mouldy destroyer or two? Iran has no navy worthy of the name.
The suggestion that their 'new navy' 'outpower USA' is demonstrably
wrong and quite ludicrous. Would you care to retract?

I agree with you.

I'll take that as a yes on the retraction then.

Yet they still have a new technology that outperforms that of USA

IF it exists and IF it works.

may render *all* of the USA's fleet useless.

No chance. None.

Meaning 200 SUPER POWER USA fleets worth Trillions of dollars (Same as
the twin New York Towers destroyed by a few terrorits and two planes)

You are comparing apples with motorcycles. There is no comparison
between a bunch of scum ramming airliners into a building to some
supposed superweapon destroying well defended and ably handled warships.

destoyed in seconds by only 200 Iranian torpedoes, crippling (rather
eliminating) the USA's fleet,

Oh? And they are going to manage this how? Do you think the USN will
neatly line up all it's warships to be sunk? All at once?
You clearly have no idea how impossible your scenario is.

it's economy, and 70% of it's soldiers
(Trillions spent on these ships let alone all the soldiers on those
ships ...war planes only contain a few soldiers per plane... as opposed
to navy fleets).

Except Iran can't possibly achieve that. No chance, none.

I would also presume the same underwater torpedo and radar evasion
technology can be adapted for missiles attacking war planes and large
cargo planes holding large numbers of US soldiers.

Can you say propaganda? Do you seriously think that Iran has suddenly
become the the technological master of the US? I don't.
Let me tell you what will happen.
The FIRST launch of any weapon against ANY US ship or aircraft or any
ship or aircraft of a US ally, will result in the destruction of the
launch vessel or site. By whatever means is most convenient. Very
likely a massive anti ship missile strike. Meantime the Aegis ships
will take care of anything inbound.

If Iran could indeed adapt there torpedo & radar evasion technology
(dense water) to missiles (light air)

Not possible. Radically different environments. You are talking about
sonar in one and radar in the other. Surely you know that?

they may also render the entire
USA's war planes useless before the planes even reach the Iranian
borders (let alone fly into and over Iran)......

Let me spell this out for you.
Iran is effectively DEFENCELESS against any half competent navy or air
force. ANY. That would include the British, the Russians, the French,
the Germans, the Israelis, the Italians and the Chinese.
They have no offensive or defensive systems capable of preventing a
major power like the US stomping their offensive capability into the
ground after they have hammered flat their defensive capability.
If you don't understand the reasoning behind this, ask Hitler and
Napoleon their opinion. Then as now God fights on the side of those
with the heaviest weapons.

2. as well unlike Iraq, Iran has Nuclear capable missiles that can
reach up to Egypt/Italy within 5 seconds


Shame they don't have any nuclear warheads to go with them.

I believe that's balloney.

I believe you are indulging in wishful speculation.

Iran trades excessively with North Korea,
whom like China are in need of Iranian Oil.
North Korea sold Nukes to India and Pakistan, and obviously Iran.

Or not. North Korea wouldn't sell nukes to anyone at present, they
would be scared shitless that they might get used against the US and
that it would get traced back to them. Poof. No North Korea.
Additionally, if Iran uses a nuke on ANYONE, about 35 minutes later
there will be NO IRAN. I doubt even that kook President with the halo
or aura or whatever is that stupid.

India and Pakistan would have kept it a secret, the only reason they
announced they had one was to intimidate each other during their war
together....even Libya bought Nukes from North Korea but then gave them
to the USA for destruction.

Codswallop. Libya never HAD nukes, they were trying to develop them.
Quaddafi (who is not only smarter but clearly much smarter than Saddam)
decided the only way to win was not to play and hollered quits when he
saw what happened to Saddam and figured (probably correctly) that he
could be next if he didn't pull his head in.

Now Iran is racing to build more,

Iran is some years away from ANY kind of nuke, much less one that will
fit in a missile warhead and even further from one that is usable in a
MIRV.

especially because Bush agreed to
help provide India with more Nuke capabilities.

Irrelevent

That's what Saddam said, who also had superior technology as compared
to Iran, until Iran invaded Baghdad.

Eh?? Iran never got to Baghdad. They couldn't get more than a mile or
two past the Iran/Iraq border. They spent years in what was essentially
trench warfare.
If Iran couldn't knock off Iraq, whose forces lasted about a week
against the US, what chance do you suppose Iran has against the US?
I'll give you a hint. None.

Which will help them not one bit if the launch platform is destroyed by
an ALCM before there is anything in range.


Most probably....

No, most definitely.

yet Iran declared they have 100% radar evasion torpedoes

Yeah, right. And of course they always tell the truth don't they?
No such thing as 100% anything. And it would be SONAR they would
need to evade. Clearly impossible anyway, sound propagates through
water even better than in air - much faster too - and a body moving
through water at 225 knots is gonna make a SHITLOAD of noise and it
WILL be detected and countermeasures employed.

maybe not too hard to adpat the same technology to missiles

Are you truly that dumb? No comparison.

(at 200 miles/sec would take 5 to 10 seconds to reach as far as Italy).

??? Where did you dream up that nonsensical figure?
Escape velocity from the Earth is 7 miles a second.
The Supposed super torpedo they CLAIM to have was good
for something like 225 MILES AN HOUR. You seem to have
slipped a couple of orders of magnitude.

You are probably an Iranian expatriate living in Canada having a wet
dream about the all powerful Iranian military destroying the USA.
But that's all it is. A wet dream. Very wet...

I'm a Christian not a Muslem.

Your religion is irrelevant.
However you did not deny being an expatriate Iranian, and I know you
are posting from Canada.
You seem truly ignorant of technology, particularly military technology
or you are very young or both.
I suggest you have an overabundance of patriot pride for your previous
homeland. It's up to you mate, but you might want to adjust that in
accordance with the real world - Iran is a very minor military power,
the only reason anyone notices them is because they sit on a lot of oil.

All we know now is that there is war tension between:

Iraq and USA, Iran and USA, Palestine and USA, Syria and USA (more
unfriendly then war at present), 30% of Afghanistan and USA, CHINA and
TAIWAN, THAILAND and itself, Pakistan and India , 40% Pakistan(with
Afghanistan) and Pakistan government (Pakistan was part of India once
likewise might happen with 40% of Pakistan).

I can agree with most of that I think.

All these may lead to another World War.....(things were calm with
Germany for a while until World War2).

Mmmmm, I wouldn't draw too many parallels, the situation is both
different and rather more complex, but certainly there is always
a possibility of someone doing something silly - and it escalating.

The real out break would begin "IF" China wars with Taiwan and USA
takes Taiwan's side.

Concur. Two things make that unlikely. One in the short term. China
is focussed on the Olympics and will do nothing that endangers the
success of that - the loss of face would be too much to bear - so it
will do NOTHING to Taiwan - no matter what the provocation - until AFTER
the Olympics. In the longer term, despite the sabre rattling,
integrating Taiwan by force would be like killing the golden egg laying
goose - Taiwans value to China is it's economy and scientific/industrial
base - and it's also a vital US interest - most of the computer hardware
in the world is made there - so the US would defend it and it's likely
there would be serious sanctions laid on China by other nations and the
UN as well. The best way for China is not to do anything - in time,
Taiwan will reintegrate peaceably - might take ten years, might take 5,
but sooner or later it will probably happen.

China with it's billions of soldiers was never a super power and it's
economy has been poor for the last 100 years, only NOW is it's economy
QUADRUPLING each two years.

And it still has no way to project force globally the way the US can.
Until it can it won't be anything special.

Many of these regions have been hit by God through Earthquakes (Two on
Two different Christmas days as a sign for Christians) maybe signs of
God trying to quelch and postpone some war idiology from the
muslems....same as one trying to stop kids from punching each other but
once the kids become fully angry then he just leaves them at their
goals.

Or not. I believe in no Gods, if there is one he's got a lot of
explaining to do.

In Revelation God punishes people by Earthquakes and Upheavals
***just*** before they war with each other at Armageddon.

See above.

Of course this may neve happen or until years far away or not, all we
have is the tons of prophecies from Nostradamus on an invasion from
Persia through the Meditarean Sea (Google Group search guskz and persia
or iran for the prophecies)

Persia's Iraq/Iran would need cooperation or conquest of Turkey and/or
Syria and/or Lebanon to reach the Mediatarean Sea.

No Middle East power is capable of anything like that. With or without
help.
<save the bible for church>
--
The CO
.
User: "fuck you"

Title: Re: Iran's new fleet outpowers USA & matches Tons of Nostradamus prophecies! 04 Apr 2006 11:33:19 AM
YOU FUCKING IGNORANT ***** HEADS. THE NEXT MAJOR WAR WILL BE WITH NORTH
KOREA. ***** AMERICA.
.





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