Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings before the
illegal invasion.
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Iraq losing its best and brightest
By Howard LaFranchi | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
BAGHDAD – When Saadoon Isa's son was released by kidnappers earlier this year
after a ransom was paid, the criminals sent the boy's father a message: "Tell
him to leave the country because Iraq is not his, it is ours."
"I still don't know who they were," says Mr. Isa, the vice president of
Baghdad's Al-Nahrain University. "But I took that message to be directed to
Iraq's educated people, its professors, business leaders, even the people
working hard in our ministries. They want us to leave."
With stories like Isa's multiplying, more of the very Iraqis needed to rebuild
the country are heeding the pressures to flee. Iraqis speak worriedly of a brain
drain that is denying Iraq a part of the educated, moderate, and entrepreneurial
population required to move forward.
It's a reversal, in the 18 months since the war, of the euphoria that brought
thousands of exiles back for the opportunity to build a new Iraq.
Many of those Iraqis are still here, building political and business careers.
The new interim government is dominated by returnees, and former exiles are
expected to fare well in planned January elections.
But now signs are multiplying of Iraqis bowing to pressures to leave:
• Every day long lines of Iraqis form outside passport offices. Officials say
they have issued more than 500,000 passports since sovereignty was restored in
June. Many applicants say the passport is a kind of insurance policy against
deepening chaos.
• More than 40,000 Assyrian and other Iraqi Christians are estimated to have
fled since war's end, hastened by a series of church bombings this summer. The
outflow weakens a prominent minority that has been a modernizing and tempering
force in Iraq for centuries.
• More than 200 university professors have been either killed or kidnapped,
according to academic organizations, prompting as many as 2,000 of Iraq's best
educators to leave - and many more to consider posts abroad.
"Already the economic conditions for our professors was not good, so when you
add a security situation that threatens them and their families, many of them
will seek to go elsewhere," says Isa.
"It's a drain that already existed [after the Gulf war] but now it has
accelerated," he says. "Before the economic factor was first, but now things
have changed and security is the top worry motivating people to seek a post out
of Iraq."
An economy that has failed to take off - restrained by stalled reconstruction
work, which in turn is inhibited by lack of security - is also a factor. Exiled
business people who returned with high hopes are at least keeping their foreign
options open. "In this situation about the only thing growing is what we call
the Jordan connection," says Yaghthan Hasan, a Baghdad importer of furniture and
other goods. "More people with the means are going to Amman to set up
businesses," he adds, noting he regularly makes the commute himself.
The lines at passport offices tell the story of average Iraqis who are looking
to benefit from a new right - passports and foreign travel were available only
to a privileged echelon under Saddam Hussein. But among the applicants every day
are people contemplating life somewhere else.
"They talk about the new Iraq, but that makes me laugh unless you want to talk
about the 'new' being unsafe streets and car bombs going off," says Tharwat
Saadi, a Baghdad barber who plans to buy a barbershop in Syria and move there.
"You can't make a living in these conditions."
Government officials acknowledge that families are leaving - in some cases wives
and children are going abroad while fathers remain to work - but they deny it
has reached alarming levels.
One official who does speak in terms of an exodus, however, is Ibtisam Gorges, a
Christian member of Iraq's new interim parliament. Since the war, about 5
percent of a 900,000-strong Christian community has left, she says.
"There are 3 million [Iraqi Christians] living outside the country, and most of
them want very much to return," says Ms. Gorges. "But with the kinds of things
that are happening to our people here, it's not possible."
She says that after a focus on Christian males, it is now "our daughters" who
are being kidnapped. "We are treated like we are part of the American presence
here. It's a big pressure on our families, something more of them are deciding
to escape."
The security crisis is only the latest challenge to Iraq's university system,
once considered among the best in the Arab world. Salaries have fallen well
below those at universities in the region, which saps the will to stay and fight
against the obscure anti-intellectual forces.
"The brainpower of the country is leaving, it happened after 1990 and it's
happening again now," says Isam Kadhem al-Rawi, a geologist and president of the
Association of University Teachers. The organization estimates that 2,000
professors have left since the war, joining the 10,000 the association says left
in the 12 years after the Gulf war.
Perhaps most unsettling, Mr. Rawi says, is that no one knows for sure who is
targeting Iraq's elites, or why. Universities have received warnings via the
Internet - either anonymously or from unknown groups - to separate male and
female students, or to stop teaching Western ideals.
"We don't know who is threatening us, but we do know that when we report
killings and kidnappings those responsible are never found," he says. That feeds
rumors, he adds - including one seemingly bizarre but widely accepted theory
that the US and Israel are encouraging Iraq's instability and brain drain
because, as Rawi says, "they want a weak Iraq."
Still, some Iraqis are growing impatient with all the attention being paid to
those leaving the country, when it is those staying here, including among the
elites, whom they say will give Iraq a shot at solving its crisis.
"I have the same worries as everyone, but you can't run away and at the same
time help build a prosperous and democratic Iraq," says Abbas Abu Altimen,
president of the Baghdad Economic Research Center.
A business management expert who returned to Iraq after the war, Mr. Altimen
says it's time for Iraqis like him to put their knowledge to work at home.
Not that he doesn't know what's causing people to do otherwise, he says. "A very
good friend's son was kidnapped, they paid $20,000 to get him back - and then
they promptly fled to Amman," he says. "But they will be back, just as others
will, because this is a unique opportunity to focus on the positive changes and
build something new."
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AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings before the
illegal invasion.
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Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
J.
[More ***** with no link by a total loser snipped.]
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings
before the
illegal invasion.
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Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
You have a very weird distorted view on the world.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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22 Sep 2004 08:48:19 AM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings
before the
illegal invasion.
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Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
You have a very weird distorted view on the world.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Well ... that was a *nice* way of putting it ... :-)
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22 Sep 2004 06:42:43 AM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:eZb4d.113488$XP3.36571@edtnps84...
AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings
before the
illegal invasion.
---------------------------------------------
Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
You have a very weird distorted view on the world.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
Nah.
J.
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22 Sep 2004 09:39:35 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:Tyd4d.114821$XP3.88121@edtnps84...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:eZb4d.113488$XP3.36571@edtnps84...
AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings
before the
illegal invasion.
---------------------------------------------
Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
You have a very weird distorted view on the world.
Nah.
Ask your precious fascist Bush all about it. Germany and France like many
other countries who did not fall for the WMD crap of Bush do help the USA
in Afghanistan were they fought the Taleban and Al Qaida and many are still
there.
In his RNC acceptance speech Bush told his SS, SA, Luftwaffe and other
ignorant supporters of the Republican Party that the allies of the USA which
fought against terrorism deserved the respect of any American citizen and
not
the scorn of Kerry.
So, JG, my dearest fascist ***** kissing baby, what's it going to be?
Respect like your commander orders or scorn like Kerry seems to propagate?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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22 Sep 2004 11:06:12 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:eZb4d.113488$XP3.36571@edtnps84...
AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings
before the
illegal invasion.
---------------------------------------------
Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
You have a very weird distorted view on the world.
Nah.
Ask your precious fascist Bush all about it. Germany and France like many
Nah, these countries are assholes traitors.
J.
J.
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23 Sep 2004 09:31:25 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:UYr4d.75517$KU5.64362@edtnps89...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:Tyd4d.114821$XP3.88121@edtnps84...
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:eZb4d.113488$XP3.36571@edtnps84...
AK a écrit:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings
before the
illegal invasion.
---------------------------------------------
Iraq losing its best and brightest
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by
weasels
like France and Annan now. Doesn't change the legitimacy of that
government, only adds to the weasels' list.
You have a very weird distorted view on the world.
Nah.
Ask your precious fascist Bush all about it. Germany and France like
many
Nah, these countries are assholes traitors.
Since Bush ordered you to think otherwise I reckon you vote Kerry.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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22 Sep 2004 10:06:07 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:54:18 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now.
Nope. They weren't fleeing before the US invasion. Now they are after the
illegal invasion. The US is responsible.
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22 Sep 2004 06:11:22 PM |
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AK a écrit:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:54:18 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
In the hands of terrorists who flock there from neighboring arab
countries by the thousands, sponsored by Arabs and encouraged by weasels
like France and Annan now.
Nope. They weren't fleeing before the US invasion. Now they are after the
illegal invasion. The US is responsible.
Nope. The Iraqi government is recognized by the UN thereby recognizing
the principle of its legitimacy and what led to it.
They can decide whomever they want to help them root out the assholes
who try to destroy their country.
Eat *****, terrorist supporter.
J.
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22 Sep 2004 08:09:05 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:11:22 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
They can decide whomever they want to help them root out the assholes
who try to destroy their country.
Didn't answer the question. Iraqi doctors/scientists/teachers were not fleeing
Iraq before the illegal US invasion. Now they are. Thus, the illegal invaders
are responsible.
Now you can kiss my ***** (in fartitude, of course).
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22 Sep 2004 10:12:18 PM |
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AK a écrit:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:11:22 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
They can decide whomever they want to help them root out the assholes
who try to destroy their country.
Didn't answer the question. Iraqi doctors/scientists/teachers were not fleeing
Iraq before the illegal US invasion. Now they are. Thus, the illegal invaders
are responsible.
Nah, only the murderers are responsible, they are flocking there from
Muslim countries. They need to be crushed.
Now you can kiss my ***** (in fartitude, of course).
J.
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22 Sep 2004 10:26:59 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:12:18 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Didn't answer the question. Iraqi doctors/scientists/teachers were not fleeing
Iraq before the illegal US invasion. Now they are. Thus, the illegal invaders
are responsible.
Nah, only the murderers are responsible, they are flocking there from
Muslim countries. They need to be crushed.
The US invaded Iraq illegally, even according to the Secretary-General of the
United Nations, Kofi A. Annan. They are responsible.
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22 Sep 2004 11:08:22 PM |
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AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:12:18 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Didn't answer the question. Iraqi doctors/scientists/teachers were not fleeing
Iraq before the illegal US invasion. Now they are. Thus, the illegal invaders
are responsible.
Nah, only the murderers are responsible, they are flocking there from
Muslim countries. They need to be crushed.
The US invaded Iraq illegally, even according to the Secretary-General of the
United Nations, Kofi A. Annan. They are responsible.
Nah legally. Annan can kiss my *****.
J.
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22 Sep 2004 11:14:41 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:08:22 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
The US invaded Iraq illegally, even according to the Secretary-General of the
United Nations, Kofi A. Annan. They are responsible.
Nah legally. Annan can kiss my *****.
I will take the words of the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi A.
Annan over yours, and I conclude the invasion was illegal.
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23 Sep 2004 04:08:25 AM |
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AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:08:22 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
The US invaded Iraq illegally, even according to the Secretary-General of the
United Nations, Kofi A. Annan. They are responsible.
Nah legally. Annan can kiss my *****.
I will take the words of the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi A.
Annan over yours, and I conclude the invasion was illegal.
Suit yourself. He still said in his opinion, and still said if you wish...
But Bush made it clear that he had no clue.
And so, he should apologize to Bush and the world.
J.
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23 Sep 2004 04:14:55 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:08:25 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
I will take the words of the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi A.
Annan over yours, and I conclude the invasion was illegal.
Suit yourself. He still said in his opinion, and still said if you wish...
His opinion is more valid than yours. Thus, I will take his words over yours and
the war was illegal.
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23 Sep 2004 05:40:13 AM |
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Bah you take the word of binny over anybody, so who cares.
J.
AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:08:25 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
I will take the words of the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Kofi A.
Annan over yours, and I conclude the invasion was illegal.
Suit yourself. He still said in his opinion, and still said if you wish...
His opinion is more valid than yours. Thus, I will take his words over yours and
the war was illegal.
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23 Sep 2004 06:53:44 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:40:13 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Bah you take the word of binny over anybody, so who cares.
You didn't answer the question. The war was illegal according to the
Secretary-General of the United Nations, honorable Kofi A. Annan.
Now since the invasion was illegal, it's legal for Iraqis to resist (as they are
doing) the illegal invaders till they are liberated. If not, why not?
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23 Sep 2004 09:45:41 AM |
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Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
J.
AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:40:13 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Bah you take the word of binny over anybody, so who cares.
You didn't answer the question. The war was illegal according to the
Secretary-General of the United Nations, honorable Kofi A. Annan.
Now since the invasion was illegal, it's legal for Iraqis to resist (as they are
doing) the illegal invaders till they are liberated. If not, why not?
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23 Sep 2004 06:33:55 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
His (Anan's) opinion means a little more to me than yours.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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23 Sep 2004 11:04:21 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
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24 Sep 2004 07:11:30 AM |
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AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
J.
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24 Sep 2004 04:10:02 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
Well, there are more people on this planet paying attention to Annan's
opinion than they pay to yours.
Kind Regards;
Barbarossa
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24 Sep 2004 04:25:13 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:S9U4d.78342$KU5.40655@edtnps89...
AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
Well, there are more people on this planet paying attention to Annan's
opinion than they pay to yours.
Kind Regards;
Barbarossa
Yep, no question, and that is why he should reconsider.
J.
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24 Sep 2004 05:00:11 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:S9U4d.78342$KU5.40655@edtnps89...
AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
Well, there are more people on this planet paying attention to Annan's
opinion than they pay to yours.
Kind Regards;
Barbarossa
Yep, no question, and that is why he should reconsider.
J.
Mind you, he just said at the UN a few minutes ago that divergence of
OPINION on Iraq intervention should not deter any nation from helping
this country. It is a beginning.
J.
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25 Sep 2004 12:58:37 AM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:S9U4d.78342$KU5.40655@edtnps89...
AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
Well, there are more people on this planet paying attention to Annan's
opinion than they pay to yours.
Kind Regards;
Barbarossa
Yep, no question, and that is why he should reconsider.
J.
Mind you, he just said at the UN a few minutes ago that divergence of
[post deleted]
This was overheard at one BBC World news, but it didn't show up in the
next. Can't find it in the UN statements. (Maybe it was a
misperception?) I'll wait for firm confirmation before commenting further.
J.
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25 Sep 2004 01:05:17 AM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
Jean Guernon a écrit:
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:S9U4d.78342$KU5.40655@edtnps89...
AK a écrit:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:45:41 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
Nope. His opinion doesn't mean *****.
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the
credibility
scale.
Well, there are more people on this planet paying attention to Annan's
opinion than they pay to yours.
Kind Regards;
Barbarossa
Yep, no question, and that is why he should reconsider.
J.
Mind you, he just said at the UN a few minutes ago that divergence of
[post deleted]
This was overheard at one BBC World news, but it didn't show up in the
next. Can't find it in the UN statements. (Maybe it was a
misperception?) I'll wait for firm confirmation before commenting further.
It was misperception on my part as I heard the news on the fly, it was
indeed Allawi discussing with Annan, but the remark came from Allawi to
Annan apparently. Sorry for that mistake. So indeed we are still at
point zero concerning what Annan should do about this particular
situation. Anyway, sorry for the error.
J.
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24 Sep 2004 08:32:06 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:11:30 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
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It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
The US invaded Iraq illegally, even according to the Secretary-General of the
United Nations, Kofi A. Annan. They are responsible for the mess.
How is that an opinion?
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24 Sep 2004 09:44:17 AM |
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AK a écrit:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:11:30 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
It means more than yours.
Bah, this is your opinion only. And it is even lower in the credibility
scale.
The US invaded Iraq illegally, even according to the Secretary-General of the
United Nations, Kofi A. Annan. They are responsible for the mess.
How is that an opinion?
He said it is his opinion that... his opinion means nothing, since the
UN resolution implied the invasion if he was in breach. He is a traitor
to even say this.
J.
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21 Sep 2004 07:38:30 PM |
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In article <v2g1l0pn6pim8473oqicrvirs36ubg4s21@4ax.com>, AK <someoneNasty@hotmails.com> wrote:
Thanks to illegal invaders. There were no kidnappings and beheadings before
the
illegal invasion.
Huh? What do you think Saddam was doing?
Better for Saddam to be kidnapping them than them kidnapping us, though, IMHO.
Woods
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