Well despite the identity of the Mabus character the rhyme itself has
other characteristics
Soon after that Mabus shall then die.
there shall be A horrible destruction of men and beasts;
Lebanon?
Then suddenly vengeance shall be seen. Bloody hand, thirst, hunger---
when the comet shall stream.
Depends on the Comet eh?
Line 1. 'Mabus' is not identified. It may be a typographical error,
perhaps for 'Malus' (The Evil One), or it may be an unsolved
concealment. Line 4. Reading the homonymous 'sang' (blood) instead of
'cent' (one hundred)
C II -Q62 Mabus puis alors mourra, viendra
De gens et bestes vne horrible defaite:
Puis tout =E0 coup la vengence on verra
Cent, main, soif, faim, quand courra la comete.
Last post for a while
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On 21 Jul 2006 14:18:06 -0700, "leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> asked a question. The answer:
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No, it is not unfolding. It shall be unfolding on Sunday, August
13, 2017, when the US Ambassador to Beijing, together with 78 of
the male diplomats posted at the US Embassy in Beijing, shall be
slaughtered by Communist revolutionaries on Tienanmen Square.
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Immediately afterwards, the President of the US shall order
Tienanmen to be nuked, to avenge this major crime against the US
and international law.
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Unfortunately, his military shall execute this order in their
usual manner, i.e., very clumsily, and the ICBM intended to nuke
Peking shall nuke Paris instead.
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The only presently known US diplomat bearing the name Mabus is a
former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Raymond Mabus.
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--------------- C E N T V R I E___S E C O N D E. -------------
----------------------- (édition de 1555) --------------------
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---- 62 - Mabus puis tost alors mourra,viendra ---------------
--------- De gens & bestes vne horrible defaite: -------------
--------- Puis tout à coup la vengence on verra --------------
--------- Cent,main,soif,faim,quand courra la comete. --------
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And the comet is not a comet, because comets don't run in the
sky. ICBMs do run in the sky, leaving a trail similar to that of
the tail of a comet. Which is why Nostradamus uses the analogy of
a comet to point to a man-made object which runs in the sky.
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
July 22, 2006
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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23 Jul 2006 02:54:24 PM |
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Claude Latremouille wrote:
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On 21 Jul 2006 14:18:06 -0700, "leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> asked a question. The answer:
*
No, it is not unfolding. It shall be unfolding on Sunday, August
13, 2017, when the US Ambassador to Beijing, together with 78 of
the male diplomats posted at the US Embassy in Beijing, shall be
slaughtered by Communist revolutionaries on Tienanmen Square.
*
And the comet is not a comet, because comets don't run in the
sky. ICBMs do run in the sky, leaving a trail similar to that of
the tail of a comet. Which is why Nostradamus uses the analogy of
a comet to point to a man-made object which runs in the sky.
runs in the sky.
Yes but could he just pick one out?
The US will be on bones of it's arse by 2017, Mucho broko and
contemplating where the ***** the Jesus guy is!
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latr=E9mouille
July 22, 2006
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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23 Jul 2006 06:51:04 AM |
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wrote:
Well despite the identity of the Mabus character the rhyme itself has
other characteristics
Soon after that Mabus shall then die.
there shall be A horrible destruction of men and beasts;
Lebanon?
Only If you you're tempted to think like Humpty Dumpty.
Then suddenly vengeance shall be seen. Bloody hand, thirst, hunger---
when the comet shall stream.
Depends on the Comet eh?
Well that's what it says!
Line 1. 'Mabus' is not identified. It may be a typographical error,
perhaps for 'Malus' (The Evil One), or it may be an unsolved
concealment. Line 4. Reading the homonymous 'sang' (blood) instead of
'cent' (one hundred)
Time for a reality check, so for the benefit of those who prefer to
know the Truth rather than the Ego's clever deception, here is
Nostradamus's source for this quatrain:
II.62. Original 1555 Edition
Mabus puis tost alors mourra, viendra
De gens & bestes une horrible defaite:
Puis tout =E0 coup la vengeance on verra
Cent, main, soif, faim, quand courra la comete.
Phonetically: Sang humain
English Verse translation
Mabus will shortly die and then we'll hear
Of man and beast a horrible ending:
Then all a sudden vengeance shall appear.
Thirst, famine, blood, when comet running.
Events of 1532, which included the death of the famous Flemish painter,
Jan Mabuse on October 1, 1532, which marked the appearance of a
strikingly bright comet (Comet C/1532 R1). This comet's claim to fame
is that it was the brilliant daytime comet seen by the Aztecs and Incas
just as the Spaniards arrived in Peru. In fact, it was on 15 November,
1532 that Francisco Pizarro with less than 200 Spanish conquistadors
- in order to avenge the throwing to the ground of the Christian
Bible by the Inca Emperor - succeeded in the final violent destruction
of this great empire of some eight million people, beginning with what
is known today as the massacre of Cajamarca, as would duly be recorded
by Bartolom=E9 de Las Casas in his 'Brev=EDsima relaci=F3n de la
destrucci=F3n de las Indias', which first appeared in published form
in 1552.=20
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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23 Jul 2006 02:31:17 PM |
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Merlin wrote:
leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Well despite the identity of the Mabus character the rhyme itself has
other characteristics
Soon after that Mabus shall then die.
there shall be A horrible destruction of men and beasts;
Lebanon?
Only If you you're tempted to think like Humpty Dumpty.
Just no wall for a big egg!
Then suddenly vengeance shall be seen. Bloody hand, thirst, hunger---
when the comet shall stream.
Depends on the Comet eh?
Well that's what it says!
The comet takes lines 3 and 4
Line 1. 'Mabus' is not identified. It may be a typographical error,
perhaps for 'Malus' (The Evil One), or it may be an unsolved
concealment. Line 4. Reading the homonymous 'sang' (blood) instead of
'cent' (one hundred)
Time for a reality check, so for the benefit of those who prefer to
know the Truth rather than the Ego's clever deception, here is
Nostradamus's source for this quatrain:
II.62. Original 1555 Edition
Mabus puis tost alors mourra, viendra
De gens & bestes une horrible defaite:
Puis tout =E0 coup la vengeance on verra
Cent, main, soif, faim, quand courra la comete.
Phonetically: Sang humain
English Verse translation
Mabus will shortly die and then we'll hear
Of man and beast a horrible ending:
Then all a sudden vengeance shall appear.
Thirst, famine, blood, when comet running.
Events of 1532, which included the death of the famous Flemish painter,
Jan Mabuse on October 1, 1532, which marked the appearance of a
strikingly bright comet (Comet C/1532 R1). This comet's claim to fame
is that it was the brilliant daytime comet seen by the Aztecs and Incas
just as the Spaniards arrived in Peru. In fact, it was on 15 November,
1532 that Francisco Pizarro with less than 200 Spanish conquistadors
- in order to avenge the throwing to the ground of the Christian
Bible by the Inca Emperor - succeeded in the final violent destruction
of this great empire of some eight million people, beginning with what
is known today as the massacre of Cajamarca, as would duly be recorded
by Bartolom=E9 de Las Casas in his 'Brev=EDsima relaci=F3n de la
destrucci=F3n de las Indias', which first appeared in published form
in 1552.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
Despite little or no evidence of Nostradamus even mentioning South
America and being outside the bounds of 1555 forward in his chronology
but if that is your agenda, it still does not add up.
Sanitising is one thing
But for me, I put my money where my mouth is.
LB
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23 Jul 2006 05:05:58 PM |
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wrote:
Merlin wrote:
wrote:
Well despite the identity of the Mabus character the rhyme itself has
other characteristics
Soon after that Mabus shall then die.
there shall be A horrible destruction of men and beasts;
Lebanon?
Only If you you're tempted to think like Humpty Dumpty.
Just no wall for a big egg!
Then suddenly vengeance shall be seen. Bloody hand, thirst, hunger---
when the comet shall stream.
Depends on the Comet eh?
Well that's what it says!
The comet takes lines 3 and 4
Line 1. 'Mabus' is not identified. It may be a typographical error,
perhaps for 'Malus' (The Evil One), or it may be an unsolved
concealment. Line 4. Reading the homonymous 'sang' (blood) instead of
'cent' (one hundred)
Time for a reality check, so for the benefit of those who prefer to
know the Truth rather than the Ego's clever deception, here is
Nostradamus's source for this quatrain:
II.62. Original 1555 Edition
Mabus puis tost alors mourra, viendra
De gens & bestes une horrible defaite:
Puis tout =E0 coup la vengeance on verra
Cent, main, soif, faim, quand courra la comete.
Phonetically: Sang humain
English Verse translation
Mabus will shortly die and then we'll hear
Of man and beast a horrible ending:
Then all a sudden vengeance shall appear.
Thirst, famine, blood, when comet running.
Events of 1532, which included the death of the famous Flemish painter,
Jan Mabuse on October 1, 1532, which marked the appearance of a
strikingly bright comet (Comet C/1532 R1). This comet's claim to fame
is that it was the brilliant daytime comet seen by the Aztecs and Incas
just as the Spaniards arrived in Peru. In fact, it was on 15 November,
1532 that Francisco Pizarro with less than 200 Spanish conquistadors
- in order to avenge the throwing to the ground of the Christian
Bible by the Inca Emperor - succeeded in the final violent destruction
of this great empire of some eight million people, beginning with what
is known today as the massacre of Cajamarca, as would duly be recorded
by Bartolom=E9 de Las Casas in his 'Brev=EDsima relaci=F3n de la
destrucci=F3n de las Indias', which first appeared in published form
in 1552.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
Despite little or no evidence of Nostradamus even mentioning South
America and being outside the bounds of 1555 forward in his chronology
but if that is your agenda, it still does not add up.
Do you even understand what evidence means, Leigh?
Anyone who was anybody at the time of Nostradamus had access to the
latest news coming from the New World. Nostradamus was a seer alright,
a seer of an opportunity to exploit the ignorance of the common masses
- "When the time comes for the removal of ignorance"!!
I can understand this sensationalistic *desire* to believe that
Nostradamus could visualize the future, but the evidence clearly
suggests he didn't and to ignore that is to be in denial!
Nostradamus was an opportunist who simply did what many Jewish Prophets
had done before him - He projected into the future, albeit rather
obscurely, events that had already happened.
My agenda is the Truth, so if the shoe fits, then I wear it
What's your agenda Leigh? ;)
Merlin
http:www.placeoftheskull.com
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24 Jul 2006 08:04:06 AM |
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On 23 Jul 2006 15:05:58 -0700, "Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote in part:
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I can understand this sensationalistic *desire* to believe that
Nostradamus could visualize the future, but the evidence clearly
suggests he didn't and to ignore that is to be in denial!
*
Translation: I can't predict the future, therefore nobody can.
*
Who is in denial? Gary Somai. So as to demonstrate his untenable
proposition, i.e., that Nostradamus only predicted his past, this
incredibly stupid writer, imitating his Master in Disinformation,
Peter Ewart Britton, a.k.a. Peter Lemesurier, invents ridiculous
stories about Nostradamus' past, stories which Nostradamus'
contemporary readers, strangely enough, all failed to notice,
although they were much closer to these so-called past events
than we may be today.
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And when Nostradamus has the audacity to date a little more
clearly one of his poems, so as to shut the mouth of his stupid
detractors, the Gary Somais of this world change the text to
avoid facing a more clearly dated prophecy. That's denial!
*
No, Nostradamus did not write about something which happened in
1999, because I do not want him to! So, I re-write his year 1999
to make it 1099. Clever, eh?
*
No, Nostradamus did not write about America because I do not want
him to! So, I re-write his "Americh" into whatever my fancy shall
dictate. How about a rich lady? No, that one is already taken.
How about a rich mother? Now, I got it! Clever, eh?
*
As one can see from his recent (2006) articles, this stupidity
knows no bounds. Gary Somai, a.k.a. The Master, a.k.a. Merlin,
a.k.a. anything else, shall *never* recognize a prophecy as a
prophecy. Why? Because his agenda is to show that Nostradamus did
not predict anything at all.
*
He is not alone. This newfangled Anglo-Saxon version of hitherto
French-rationalism-opposing-Nostradamus-at-all-cost is a
phenomenon well-known to French-speaking readers of Nostradamus'
commentators. Historically, opposing Nostradamus dates as far
back as Nostradamus' days.
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The interesting thing about his contemporary opponents, though,
is not that they blamed him for predicting the past, but blamed
him for predicting the future.
*
Now, how can that be? Were they all idiots? Or is Gary Somai the
most recent idiot in a long list?
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Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
July 24, 2006
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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24 Jul 2006 03:48:47 PM |
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Claude Latremouille as usual wrote his customary load of crap!
Face it Claude, nobody who is anybody in the Nostradamus industry gives
a sh*t anymore about what you have to say. Most people see your
approach to Nostradamus as nothing more than manipulative, deceitful
and destructive to the truth.
Peter Lemesurier at least knows what he is talking about, but you
Claude Latremoule are a complete waste of time!
Have a nice day!
Merlin
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25 Jul 2006 06:51:02 AM |
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On 23 Jul 2006 15:05:58 -0700, "Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote in part:
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Nostradamus was an opportunist who simply did what many Jewish Prophets
had done before him - He projected into the future, albeit rather
obscurely, events that had already happened.
*
Showing once more for his English-speaking readers the depth of
his stupidity, Gary Somai conveniently forgot the prophecies
which COULD NOT have happened before Nostradamus' days. Shame on
him, as Nostradamus was the first herald of the British Empire:
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--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
------------------------------ C. ----------------------------
----------- Le grand empire sera par Angleterre, -------------
----------- Le pempotam des ans plus de trois cens: ----------
----------- Grandes copies passer par mer & terre, -----------
----------- Les Lusitains n'en seront pas contens. -----------
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Such an obvious prophecy, announcing the decline of the
Portuguese Empire, the fact that the Sun would at one time never
set upon the British Empire, as Britain's troops would eventually
be found crossing all seas and conquer all lands, the whole
episode lasting for over three hundred years. Not bad for 'an
opportunist who simply did what many Jewish Prophets had done
before him'.
*
Methinks the opportunist is the one who, after having penned many
a book about Nostradamus the prophet, began to wrote some more
books denouncing Nostradamus the prophet. The greatest
opportunist, in my view, is this Brittish Master of
Disinformation, known as Peter Lemesurier (for the morons, Peter
Ewart Britton, hence the spelling of this appropriate 'Brittish'
above). Gary Somai is nothing but his shadow, disguising himself
variously as 'The Master' (what a ridiculous Ego) and now as
'Merlin' (I've seen better magicians in my days).
*
All devoted to the good cause of denigrating a 16th century
French seer who had the audacity of announcing the end of the
British Empire well before the end of Paris, on August 13, 2017,
at 3:53 a.m.
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That one too is not bad for an opportunist.
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Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
July 25, 2006
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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23 Jul 2006 02:47:03 PM |
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wrote:
Merlin wrote:
wrote:
Well despite the identity of the Mabus character the rhyme itself has
other characteristics
Soon after that Mabus shall then die.
there shall be A horrible destruction of men and beasts;
Lebanon?
Only If you you're tempted to think like Humpty Dumpty.
Just no wall for a big egg!
Then suddenly vengeance shall be seen. Bloody hand, thirst, hunger---
when the comet shall stream.
Depends on the Comet eh?
Well that's what it says!
The comet takes lines 3 and 4
Line 1. 'Mabus' is not identified. It may be a typographical error,
perhaps for 'Malus' (The Evil One), or it may be an unsolved
concealment. Line 4. Reading the homonymous 'sang' (blood) instead of
'cent' (one hundred)
Time for a reality check, so for the benefit of those who prefer to
know the Truth rather than the Ego's clever deception, here is
Nostradamus's source for this quatrain:
II.62. Original 1555 Edition
Mabus puis tost alors mourra, viendra
De gens & bestes une horrible defaite:
Puis tout =E0 coup la vengeance on verra
Cent, main, soif, faim, quand courra la comete.
Phonetically: Sang humain
English Verse translation
Mabus will shortly die and then we'll hear
Of man and beast a horrible ending:
Then all a sudden vengeance shall appear.
Thirst, famine, blood, when comet running.
Events of 1532, which included the death of the famous Flemish painter,
Jan Mabuse on October 1, 1532, which marked the appearance of a
strikingly bright comet (Comet C/1532 R1). This comet's claim to fame
is that it was the brilliant daytime comet seen by the Aztecs and Incas
just as the Spaniards arrived in Peru. In fact, it was on 15 November,
1532 that Francisco Pizarro with less than 200 Spanish conquistadors
- in order to avenge the throwing to the ground of the Christian
Bible by the Inca Emperor - succeeded in the final violent destruction
of this great empire of some eight million people, beginning with what
is known today as the massacre of Cajamarca, as would duly be recorded
by Bartolom=E9 de Las Casas in his 'Brev=EDsima relaci=F3n de la
destrucci=F3n de las Indias', which first appeared in published form
in 1552.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
Despite little or no evidence of Nostradamus even mentioning South
America and being outside the bounds of 1555 forward in his chronology
but if that is your agenda, it still does not add up.
Sanitising is one thing
But for me, I put my money where my mouth is.
LB
I should add the companion Quatrain gives it context:
C II -Q34 L'ire insens=E9e du combat furieux
Fera =E0 table par freres le fer luire
Les despartis mort, blesse, curieux:
Le fier duelle viendra en France nuire.
C2Q34 The mad/uncontrolled anger of the furious quarrel Shall cause
swords to flash at the table among [the] brothers. [They shall] take
pains to separate them. [one is] dead; [one is] wounded. The lamentable
fight shall cause harm in France.
Line 4. 'fier' may mean (a) cruel, evil; (b) proud, haughty; (c)
lamentable.
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