Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
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17 Feb 2007 07:35:49 PM |
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On 2007-02-17 13:17:54 -0500, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> said:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun
spots? How would we know?
The Sun is a HUGE (Understatement) ball of mainly Hydrogen gas.
Get a clue.
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19 Feb 2007 01:27:06 PM |
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On Feb 18, 1:35?am, Phoon Hencman <H...@ican.net> wrote:
Get a clue.
Mondo asks a good question. It's wise to have an open mind and to not
presume that the Universe is a thing we understand. As we slowly
discover facts about it, still more questions emerge.
As a child, I often (foolishly perhaps) likened the universe to the
atomic composition of any given object. I even wondered if the
Universe itself was just an object, and the suns, planets, everything
were sub atomic particles. There is a striking similarity you know.
Well, I'm by no means that same small boy...but I still wonder about
it all.
Werewolfy
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19 Feb 2007 02:16:42 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Feb 18, 1:35?am, Phoon Hencman <H...@ican.net> wrote:
Get a clue.
Mondo asks a good question. It's wise to have an open mind and to not
presume that the Universe is a thing we understand. As we slowly
discover facts about it, still more questions emerge.
As a child, I often (foolishly perhaps) likened the universe to the
atomic composition of any given object. I even wondered if the
Universe itself was just an object, and the suns, planets, everything
were sub atomic particles. There is a striking similarity you know.
Well, I'm by no means that same small boy...but I still wonder about
it all.
I was just joking, trying to see if I could find someone to frustrate. I
still wonder about the things you mention sometimes. Another of my
favorites is trying to imagine if I could go down so small, far smaller than
the atom, if there are planets down there, with people on them. Just in my
body alone could be billions of galaxies and civilizations different time
dimensions.
I think its fun to wonder these things. Besides what the physics believe
about string theory and 11 dimensions, parallel universes and so forth is
far more 'spooky' in a lot of ways and a lot harder to imagine.
Werewolfy
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19 Feb 2007 03:26:08 PM |
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On Feb 19, 8:16=EF=BF=BDpm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
I think its fun to wonder these things. =A0Besides what the physics belie=
ve
about string theory and 11 dimensions, parallel universes and so forth is
far =A0more 'spooky' in a lot of ways and a lot harder to imagine.
I knew you were throwing 'bait' around, Mondo. It was interesting bait
though.
Ever wondered why 'solid' objects don't fall through each other? Why
we should not be able to walk through a closed door?
As there is a great deal more space than there is substance in an
atomic particle, where does the resistance come from?
Werewolfy
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19 Feb 2007 07:49:03 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1
@yahoo.co.uk> Spat the Words
On Feb 19, 8:16�pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
I think its fun to wonder these things. Besides what the physics belie
ve
about string theory and 11 dimensions, parallel universes and so forth is
far more 'spooky' in a lot of ways and a lot harder to imagine.
I knew you were throwing 'bait' around, Mondo. It was interesting bait
though.
Ever wondered why 'solid' objects don't fall through each other? Why
we should not be able to walk through a closed door?
Electric force of repulsion is your answer. We don't fall through
the earth because the repulsive force of electrons in the atoms
of your body and solid matter of the earth is far greater than
the relatively weak force of gravity.
Good observations. We don't often think of matter as atoms
with LOTS of space between them.
Imagining physics is the fun part. Trying to describe physics
with mathematics is the really hard part (for me anyway).
As there is a great deal more space than there is substance in an
atomic particle, where does the resistance come from?
Werewolfy
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19 Feb 2007 08:44:58 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1
@yahoo.co.uk> Spat the Words
On Feb 19, 8:16�pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
I think its fun to wonder these things. Besides what the physics belie
ve
about string theory and 11 dimensions, parallel universes and so forth
is
far more 'spooky' in a lot of ways and a lot harder to imagine.
I knew you were throwing 'bait' around, Mondo. It was interesting bait
though.
Ever wondered why 'solid' objects don't fall through each other? Why
we should not be able to walk through a closed door?
Electric force of repulsion is your answer. We don't fall through
the earth because the repulsive force of electrons in the atoms
of your body and solid matter of the earth is far greater than
the relatively weak force of gravity.
But what does a proton actually do to attract an electron? Does it send a
rope out to lasso it? What actally is a 'force'?
Good observations. We don't often think of matter as atoms
with LOTS of space between them.
Imagining physics is the fun part. Trying to describe physics
with mathematics is the really hard part (for me anyway).
As there is a great deal more space than there is substance in an
atomic particle, where does the resistance come from?
Werewolfy
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20 Feb 2007 06:47:03 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> Spat the
Words
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1
@yahoo.co.uk> Spat the Words
On Feb 19, 8:16�pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
I think its fun to wonder these things. Besides what the physics
belie
ve
about string theory and 11 dimensions, parallel universes and so
forth
is
far more 'spooky' in a lot of ways and a lot harder to imagine.
I knew you were throwing 'bait' around, Mondo. It was interesting bait
though.
Ever wondered why 'solid' objects don't fall through each other? Why
we should not be able to walk through a closed door?
Electric force of repulsion is your answer. We don't fall through
the earth because the repulsive force of electrons in the atoms
of your body and solid matter of the earth is far greater than
the relatively weak force of gravity.
But what does a proton actually do to attract an electron? Does it send
a
rope out to lasso it? What actally is a 'force'?
We describe force by what it does.
force (fôrs, fors) n.
The capacity to do work or cause physical change; energy,
strength, or active power: the force of an explosion.
"Force is defined as that physical quantity, which changes or
tends to change the state of rest or state of uniform motion of
a body in a straight line."
Recall Newton's 1st Law of Motion, a body at rest remains at
rest or a body in motion remains in straight-line motion unless
an external force acts upon it.
In physics, force is an influence that may cause a body to
accelerate. It may be experienced as a lift, a push, or a pull,
and has a magnitude and a direction. The actual acceleration of
the body is determined by the vector sum of all forces acting on
it (known as net force or resultant force). In an extended body,
it may also cause rotation or deformation of the body. Rotational
effects and deformation are determined respectively by the torques
and stresses that the forces create.
Force is a vector quantity defined as the rate of change of the
momentum of the body that would be induced by that force acting
alone. Since momentum is a vector, the force has a direction
associated with it.
Good observations. We don't often think of matter as atoms
with LOTS of space between them.
Imagining physics is the fun part. Trying to describe physics
with mathematics is the really hard part (for me anyway).
As there is a great deal more space than there is substance in an
atomic particle, where does the resistance come from?
Werewolfy
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19 Feb 2007 07:41:03 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1
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On Feb 18, 1:35?am, Phoon Hencman <H...@ican.net> wrote:
Get a clue.
Mondo asks a good question. It's wise to have an open mind and to not
presume that the Universe is a thing we understand. As we slowly
discover facts about it, still more questions emerge.
As a child, I often (foolishly perhaps) likened the universe to the
atomic composition of any given object. I even wondered if the
Universe itself was just an object, and the suns, planets, everything
were sub atomic particles. There is a striking similarity you know.
Well, I'm by no means that same small boy...but I still wonder about
it all.
Werewolfy
History of science shows it is ALWAYS wise to keep an open
mind, as prevailing thought frequently needs revision and
change.
What was it Einstein said, 'Great Spirits often encouter
violent opposition from mediocre minds'.
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20 Feb 2007 08:35:28 AM |
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On Feb 20, 1:41?am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
What was it Einstein said, 'Great Spirits often encouter
violent opposition from mediocre minds'.-
That's a great quote, Randy.
Thanks for the information regarding force. Yes, I follow that.
I had thought about adding something regarding JTEM and how the 'force
of repulsion' surrounds him...but I won't..;)
I never did learn a great deal about physics, even though the subject
presents so many unusual ideas, so many strange concepts.
Perhaps I had better start reading the subject...well, it would at
least be a start!
Werewolfy
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20 Feb 2007 09:45:14 AM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I never did learn a great deal about physics,
Physics has a lot of company... a LOT of company...
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20 Feb 2007 09:06:32 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1
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On Feb 20, 1:41?am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
What was it Einstein said, 'Great Spirits often encouter
violent opposition from mediocre minds'.-
That's a great quote, Randy.
Thanks for the information regarding force. Yes, I follow that.
I had thought about adding something regarding JTEM and how the 'force
of repulsion' surrounds him...but I won't..;)
I never did learn a great deal about physics, even though the subject
presents so many unusual ideas, so many strange concepts.
Perhaps I had better start reading the subject...well, it would at
least be a start!
Werewolfy
You and I are in the same boat regarding physics. I think I
spent a lot of time in physics classes because it was my
weakest subject.
It holds much the same fascination for me as it does for
you. Mastery and complete understanding of the physical
world has been highly sought after since the dawn of our
recorded history. We're close, I have a hunch, but there
are still a few surprises that will be so mind-bending
they will absolutely blow us away.
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19 Feb 2007 02:25:26 PM |
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Another of my favorites is trying to imagine seeing a colour that I have
never seen before.
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20 Feb 2007 05:57:25 PM |
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On 2007-02-19 15:25:26 -0500, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> said:
Another of my favorites is trying to imagine seeing a colour that I
have never seen before.
Did you EVER go to school? Just asking....
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20 Feb 2007 06:45:43 PM |
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"Phoon Hencman" <Henc@ican.net> wrote in message
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On 2007-02-19 15:25:26 -0500, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> said:
Another of my favorites is trying to imagine seeing a colour that I have
never seen before.
Did you EVER go to school? Just asking....
Did you?
What is this formula used for?
-b+/- sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)/2a
Do you know?
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20 Feb 2007 09:13:05 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> Spat the Words
"Phoon Hencman" <Henc@ican.net> wrote in message
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On 2007-02-19 15:25:26 -0500, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> said:
Another of my favorites is trying to imagine seeing a colour that I have
never seen before.
Did you EVER go to school? Just asking....
Did you?
What is this formula used for?
-b+/- sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)/2a
Do you know?
I haven't seen that equation in years. Roots of a polynomial of
degree 2 ... quadratic roots ?
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20 Feb 2007 10:51:35 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> Spat the
Words
"Phoon Hencman" <Henc@ican.net> wrote in message
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On 2007-02-19 15:25:26 -0500, "mukyuk" <a@b.com> said:
Another of my favorites is trying to imagine seeing a colour that I
have
never seen before.
Did you EVER go to school? Just asking....
Did you?
What is this formula used for?
-b+/- sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)/2a
Do you know?
What is this formula used for?
I haven't seen that equation in years. Roots of a polynomial of
degree 2 ... quadratic roots ?
... and it's quite handy for many aplications ...
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20 Feb 2007 05:56:37 PM |
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On 2007-02-19 14:27:06 -0500, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> said:
On Feb 18, 1:35?am, Phoon Hencman <H...@ican.net> wrote:
Get a clue.
Mondo asks a good question. It's wise to have an open mind and to not
presume that the Universe is a thing we understand.
There's a point where you open your mind to the point where the brains
fall out.....
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21 Feb 2007 10:17:21 AM |
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On 21 Feb, 00:56, Phoon Hencman <H...@ican.net> wrote:
On 2007-02-19 14:27:06 -0500, "Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
On Feb 18, 1:35?am, Phoon Hencman <H...@ican.net> wrote:
Get a clue.
Mondo asks a good question. It's wise to have an open mind and to not
presume that the Universe is a thing we understand.
There's a point where you open your mind to the point where the brains
fall out.....
"Brains" fall out? How many "brains" do you s'pose the average person
has then?
WH
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21 Feb 2007 12:09:40 PM |
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On Feb 21, 4:17?pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Brains" fall out? How many "brains" do you s'pose the average person
has then?
Chris! Haven't seen you for a while....return with a telling comment
about brain/s!
Nice to see you around.
Werewolfy
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17 Feb 2007 02:09:06 PM |
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
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17 Feb 2007 02:31:22 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun
spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to us to send a emissaries to the Sun to
find out exactly what its messages mean.
It's possible that the meaning will not please us, maybe even scare us. It
could be the Sun has gone psychotic, become homicidal, and wishes to
destroy all human life. =(
Or, it could be the Sun wants to live in peace with humanity, and make
whatever accommodations are necessary for our and the Sun's mutual
benefit! =)
However, with our currrent leadership, pre-conditions would be imposed on
the Sun for the negotiations to begin -- causing further angry tension
with the Sun, jeopardizing our and the Sun's future existence in many
ways. =(
We might fire off nuclear warheads toward the Sun, and then the Sun would
have to retaliate with huge scorching solar flares.
Does this remind you of any international problems here? =\
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17 Feb 2007 02:57:22 PM |
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"Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalwaysin@theglobalasylum.net> wrote in message
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote in
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to us to send a emissaries to the Sun to
find out exactly what its messages mean.
It's possible that the meaning will not please us, maybe even scare us.
It could be the Sun has gone psychotic, become homicidal, and wishes to
destroy all human life. =(
In the case of the Sun, wouldn't 'homicidal' mean killing other Suns instead
of human beings?
Or, it could be the Sun wants to live in peace with humanity, and make
whatever accommodations are necessary for our and the Sun's mutual
benefit! =)
However, with our currrent leadership, pre-conditions would be imposed on
the Sun for the negotiations to begin -- causing further angry tension
with the Sun, jeopardizing our and the Sun's future existence in many
ways. =(
We might fire off nuclear warheads toward the Sun, and then the Sun would
have to retaliate with huge scorching solar flares.
Does this remind you of any international problems here? =\
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17 Feb 2007 08:50:54 PM |
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"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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"Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalwaysin@theglobalasylum.net> wrote in message
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun
spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to us to send a emissaries to the Sun to
find out exactly what its messages mean.
It's possible that the meaning will not please us, maybe even scare us.
It could be the Sun has gone psychotic, become homicidal, and wishes to
destroy all human life. =(
In the case of the Sun, wouldn't 'homicidal' mean killing other Suns
instead of human beings?
Yes, it would, but since we are simply part of the atom-stuff of all of
God's living things, technically, killing humans is killing off a
mutually-shared physicality.
Just as killing off plants is killing the building blocks of living
things -- atoms, then the Sun, as a form of intelligence on some level, is
killing off another form of intelligence, or its 'atom relatives.'
I hope this has been enlightening.
=)
Or, it could be the Sun wants to live in peace with humanity, and make
whatever accommodations are necessary for our and the Sun's mutual
benefit! =)
However, with our currrent leadership, pre-conditions would be imposed
on the Sun for the negotiations to begin -- causing further angry
tension with the Sun, jeopardizing our and the Sun's future existence
in many ways. =(
We might fire off nuclear warheads toward the Sun, and then the Sun
would have to retaliate with huge scorching solar flares.
Does this remind you of any international problems here? =\
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17 Feb 2007 08:59:04 PM |
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"Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalwaysin@theapnasylum.com> wrote in message
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"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun
spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to us to send a emissaries to the Sun to
find out exactly what its messages mean.
It's possible that the meaning will not please us, maybe even scare us.
It could be the Sun has gone psychotic, become homicidal, and wishes to
destroy all human life. =(
In the case of the Sun, wouldn't 'homicidal' mean killing other Suns
instead of human beings?
Yes, it would, but since we are simply part of the atom-stuff of all of
God's living things, technically, killing humans is killing off a
mutually-shared physicality.
Just as killing off plants is killing the building blocks of living
things -- atoms, then the Sun, as a form of intelligence on some level, is
killing off another form of intelligence, or its 'atom relatives.'
I hope this has been enlightening.
=)
At least you believe it's possible for things like stars and planets to be
'intelligent' on a different 'level'.
Or, it could be the Sun wants to live in peace with humanity, and make
whatever accommodations are necessary for our and the Sun's mutual
benefit! =)
However, with our currrent leadership, pre-conditions would be imposed
on the Sun for the negotiations to begin -- causing further angry
tension with the Sun, jeopardizing our and the Sun's future existence in
many ways. =(
We might fire off nuclear warheads toward the Sun, and then the Sun
would have to retaliate with huge scorching solar flares.
Does this remind you of any international problems here? =\
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"Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalwaysin@theglobalasylum.net> wrote in message
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com>
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun
spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to us to send a emissaries to the Sun
to find out exactly what its messages mean.
It's possible that the meaning will not please us, maybe even scare
us.
It could be the Sun has gone psychotic, become homicidal, and wishes
to destroy all human life. =(
In the case of the Sun, wouldn't 'homicidal' mean killing other Suns
instead of human beings?
Yes, it would, but since we are simply part of the atom-stuff of all of
God's living things, technically, killing humans is killing off a
mutually-shared physicality.
Just as killing off plants is killing the building blocks of living
things -- atoms, then the Sun, as a form of intelligence on some level,
is killing off another form of intelligence, or its 'atom relatives.'
I hope this has been enlightening.
=)
At least you believe it's possible for things like stars and planets to
be 'intelligent' on a different 'level'.
It's an age-old idea. Many cultures have thought the earth, sun, moon,
stars, comets, etc. were living intelligent beings. Even today, many
believe the earth is a thinking, feeling being.
After the arrival of rational science, however the romantic idea that
piles of rocks, water, air, ice, etc. could actually have intelligence
and/or emotions, was discounted, essentially for lack of scientific
evidence. It seemed preposterous on the surface.
But, the belief continues on despite science's summary rejection of it. I
think it's possible science hasn't accommodated a wider theoretical
acceptance of what constitutes an intelligence.
Religious tracts talk of thinking spirits that inhabit mountains, forests,
lakes, valleys, etc. Indian cultures have this myth as a centerpiece for
their religious beliefs, for example.
Might not the Sun be inhabited by a living, thinking, feeling spirit
entity?
Or, it could be the Sun wants to live in peace with humanity, and
make whatever accommodations are necessary for our and the Sun's
mutual benefit! =)
However, with our currrent leadership, pre-conditions would be
imposed on the Sun for the negotiations to begin -- causing further
angry tension with the Sun, jeopardizing our and the Sun's future
existence in many ways. =(
We might fire off nuclear warheads toward the Sun, and then the Sun
would have to retaliate with huge scorching solar flares.
Does this remind you of any international problems here? =\
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Is the Sun a living being? |
17 Feb 2007 09:28:36 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com>
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun
spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to us to send a emissaries to the Sun
to find out exactly what its messages mean.
It's possible that the meaning will not please us, maybe even scare
us.
It could be the Sun has gone psychotic, become homicidal, and wishes
to destroy all human life. =(
In the case of the Sun, wouldn't 'homicidal' mean killing other Suns
instead of human beings?
Yes, it would, but since we are simply part of the atom-stuff of all of
God's living things, technically, killing humans is killing off a
mutually-shared physicality.
Just as killing off plants is killing the building blocks of living
things -- atoms, then the Sun, as a form of intelligence on some level,
is killing off another form of intelligence, or its 'atom relatives.'
I hope this has been enlightening.
=)
At least you believe it's possible for things like stars and planets to
be 'intelligent' on a different 'level'.
It's an age-old idea. Many cultures have thought the earth, sun, moon,
stars, comets, etc. were living intelligent beings. Even today, many
believe the earth is a thinking, feeling being.
After the arrival of rational science, however the romantic idea that
piles of rocks, water, air, ice, etc. could actually have intelligence
and/or emotions, was discounted, essentially for lack of scientific
evidence. It seemed preposterous on the surface.
But, the belief continues on despite science's summary rejection of it. I
think it's possible science hasn't accommodated a wider theoretical
acceptance of what constitutes an intelligence.
Religious tracts talk of thinking spirits that inhabit mountains, forests,
lakes, valleys, etc. Indian cultures have this myth as a centerpiece for
their religious beliefs, for example.
Might not the Sun be inhabited by a living, thinking, feeling spirit
entity?
It doesn't have eyes or ears, but it could still have a 'sensation'. Also,
it could be 'alive' in a diffent time dimension. Something like the Sun
might take a million years to have a 'thought'? From our perspective that's
not 'alive'. From the Suns' perspective, we might not be alive either,
because our life is too short for it to sense.
Or, it could be the Sun wants to live in peace with humanity, and make
whatever accommodations are necessary for our and the Sun's mutual
benefit! =)
However, with our currrent leadership, pre-conditions would be imposed
on the Sun for the negotiations to begin -- causing further angry
tension with the Sun, jeopardizing our and the Sun's future existence
in many ways. =(
We might fire off nuclear warheads toward the Sun, and then the Sun
would have to retaliate with huge scorching solar flares.
Does this remind you of any international problems here? =\
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Is the Sun a living being? |
17 Feb 2007 02:54:31 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1171742945.993773.208070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
To seek out new life, and new civilizations....
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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17 Feb 2007 04:03:14 PM |
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On Feb 17, 3:54 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1171742945.993773.208070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
To seek out new life, and new civilizations....
.... or maybe just to brighten up someone's day ...
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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18 Feb 2007 01:47:15 AM |
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On Feb 17, 8:54?pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
I prefer to alter slightly the hackneyed, but interesting line;
"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Apn'ers, than are dreamed
of in your philosophy."
Werewolfy
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| User: "Bradly Wiebe" |
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18 Feb 2007 02:34:26 AM |
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mukyuk wrote:
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvinparanoidandroid@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1171742945.993773.208070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
Suppose the Sun is trying to communicate with us by using the sun spots?
How would we know?
Is the Sun a 'being'? Depends on your definition of 'being'.
As to whether it's living, it's certainly doesn't appear dead.
What would be it's motivation to 'communicate' with us?
To seek out new life, and new civilizations....
But it's kind of stuck there, it can't boldly go anywhere. And it's
already where no man has been before.
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