Why would a Senator who is a member of the Intelligence Committee
say this if it weren't so?
Tony
Time to ask Kerry tough questions about TWA 800
By Jack Cashill
"I will not let [President Bush] off the hook throughout this campaign with
respect to America's credibility," said John Kerry last June in New Hampshire,
a theme he has repeated over and over since.
Now that the "big mo" in the Democratic primary has clearly shifted to the
Massachusetts Senator, it is time for his opponents and the media to start
asking about Kerry's own credibility on the question of intelligence. A good
place to start is with the fate of TWA Flight 800, the plane that was alleged
to have self-destructed off the coast of Long Island in 1996 with 230 good
souls on board.
On Sept. 11, 2001, as reported earlier, Sen. Kerry appeared on the Larry King
Show. Kerry's honest admission to King bears scrutiny:
We have always known this could happen. We've warned about it. We've talked
about it. I regret to say, as I served on the Intelligence Committee up until
last year. I can remember after the bombings of the embassies, after TWA 800,
we went through this flurry of activity, talking about it, but not really doing
[sic] hard work of responding.
If Kerry talked about the fate of TWA Flight 800 before September 11, he does
not seem to have done so at the time of its destruction. However, his colleague
on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Republican Orrin Hatch of Utah,
did go public with his concerns.
Hatch spoke with CNN on July 19, 1996, two days after the crash. He admitted to
having "various conversations" with government officials.
"I won't go so far as to say it was terrorism, but there was sabotage here,"
said Hatch. "We're looking at a criminal act. We're looking at somebody who
either put a bomb on it or shot a missile, a surface-to-air missile."
Hatch was likely telling the truth here about the limits of his own knowledge.
Indeed, we have yet to identify a single civilian, including those at work deep
within the investigation, who knew beyond doubt what transpired on the night of
July 17, 1996.
Hatch's recommended follow-up is fully consistent with his beliefs. "The
National Transportation Safety Board should now turn the investigation over to
the FBI because the crash was not related to an aviation problem," added Hatch.
"It's very – almost 100 percent unlikely that this was a mechanical failure."
[emphasis mine]
If there were ever a subject for review by the Senate Select Committee on
Intelligence, this would seem to be it. But curiously, the committee's "Special
Report" that covers the period of the crash and its aftermath dedicates not a
word to TWA Flight 800.
The report does detail the terrorist bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia
three weeks earlier and even explores the much more questionable and
controversial subject of the CIA-Contra-cocaine story that was then creating a
firestorm in the left-wing media and, to a lesser degree, in the mainstream
media. But the committee's report, issued on Feb. 28, 1997, does not raise the
subject of TWA Flight 800, even to dismiss it.
"After TWA 800, we went through this flurry of activity, talking about it,"
said Kerry on September 11. Given the presence of a Democrat in the White
House, veteran intelligence committee member Kerry would have had better access
to serious talk than Hatch. Regardless, not a word of it surfaces in the public
record.
Throughout the year of 1997, the CIA worked on the creation of the now
notorious video animation designed to discredit the eyewitnesses. On Nov. 18,
1997, the FBI previewed this video for a national audience. Again, one would
think this a likely topic for the Intelligence Committee's next report, the one
covering the period Jan. 7, 1997 – Oct. 21, 1998. But again, not a word.
These reports are well-detailed. They discuss subjects of serious and obvious
national import, including terrorist acts like the destruction of Pan Am 103,
but they also delve into the speculative like the CIA-Contra story, Y2K and
"the release of the JFK files." But not one public word about TWA Flight 800.
After Kerry' remarks to Larry King on September 11, at least one person called
his office for a clarification. After some back-and-forth, she was told that
she must have misunderstood.
On Sept. 24,2001, there was no mistaking the meaning of Sen. Kerry's remarks. I
personally watched him say the following to Chris Matthews on "Hardball."
You know, we've had terrorism for a long time now. We've had the Achille Lauro,
the Munich Olympics, the pipe bomb at the Olympics in Atlanta, the TWA 800, the
bombing of embassies, and it's not going to disappear overnight.
On Sept. 20, 2001, one mainstream newspaper broke the story of how the
so-called Gore Commission failed conspicuously to address airline safety. The
paper claimed that this failure "represents the clearest recent public example
of the success that airlines have long had in defeating calls for more
oversight."
The paper traced that failure to a series of campaign donations from the
airlines to the Democratic National Committee in 1996 in the wake of the crash
of TWA Flight 800, donations likely solicited by Al Gore himself. That
newspaper just happened to be John Kerry's hometown Boston Globe, which has
now, not surprisingly, endorsed Kerry for president.
Of course, it is possible that Sen. Kerry merely misspoke about a terrorist
attack against TWA 800 on two occasions, and it is possible, too, that the
Globe's entrance into the fray was merely coincidental. But given the brutal
realities of Democratic presidential politics it is altogether possible that
these revelations were calculated and perhaps even coordinated. And if he did
misspeak about so grave an issue on two occasions, one must question his
fitness for the presidency.
In our book, "First Strike," James Sanders and I make this arguably prophetic
comment:
John Kerry seemed to have his sights on Al Gore's Achilles' heel. After the
events of September 11, the story of how Al Gore helped subvert the
investigation into TWA 800 and undermine airport security may yet prove to be a
career-killer. Kerry's "slips" may put Gore out of the race even before he gets
in.
Two weeks after advanced copies of "First Strike" started circulating around
Washington, Gore withdrew from the presidential race. It would be presumptuous
of us to believe that these accumulating revelations caused Gore to withdraw.
But if not, what did? Gore's withdrawal shocked Washington. From this
perspective, Gore's surprise endorsement of Howard Dean may have been meant not
as a rebuke of Sen. Joe Lieberman, but as payback to Sen. John Kerry.
"We went through this flurry of activity, talking about it, but not really
doing [sic] hard work of responding," said Kerry on September 11. The shameful
thing is that, even today, while he pounds Bush for his presumed lack of
credibility, Kerry continues to play political games with the one event that
may well have anticipated that horrific day.
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24 Jan 2004 06:44:00 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:20040124060106.22937.00000770@mb-m04.aol.com...
Why would a Senator who is a member of the Intelligence Committee
say this if it weren't so?
Tony
Time to ask Kerry tough questions about TWA 800
By Jack Cashill
"I will not let [President Bush] off the hook throughout this campaign
with
respect to America's credibility," said John Kerry last June in New
Hampshire,
a theme he has repeated over and over since.
Now that the "big mo" in the Democratic primary has clearly shifted to the
Massachusetts Senator, it is time for his opponents and the media to start
asking about Kerry's own credibility on the question of intelligence. A
good
place to start is with the fate of TWA Flight 800, the plane that was
alleged
to have self-destructed off the coast of Long Island in 1996 with 230 good
souls on board.
Here's the answer:
Intelligence...American politician...a big no no. The two concepts don't fit
together. Simple!
WH
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24 Jan 2004 09:13:31 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:44:00 +0100, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:20040124060106.22937.00000770@mb-m04.aol.com...
Why would a Senator who is a member of the Intelligence Committee
say this if it weren't so?
Tony
Time to ask Kerry tough questions about TWA 800
By Jack Cashill
"I will not let [President Bush] off the hook throughout this campaign
with
respect to America's credibility," said John Kerry last June in New
Hampshire,
a theme he has repeated over and over since.
Now that the "big mo" in the Democratic primary has clearly shifted to the
Massachusetts Senator, it is time for his opponents and the media to start
asking about Kerry's own credibility on the question of intelligence. A
good
place to start is with the fate of TWA Flight 800, the plane that was
alleged
to have self-destructed off the coast of Long Island in 1996 with 230 good
souls on board.
Here's the answer:
Intelligence...American politician...a big no no. The two concepts don't fit
together. Simple!
WH
Intelligence and American....talk about opposites. Hahahaha
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26 Jan 2004 03:38:24 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote in message news:<20040124060106.22937.00000770@mb-m04.aol.com>...
Why would a Senator who is a member of the Intelligence Committee
say this if it weren't so?
Tony
Uh . you mean you don't think a senator would LIE or twist things to
suit his own agenda?
Time to ask Kerry tough questions about TWA 800
By Jack Cashill
Oh my god, that lying, ignorant imbecile Jack Cashill again. What are
his credentials?
"I will not let [President Bush] off the hook throughout this campaign with
respect to America's credibility," said John Kerry last June in New Hampshire,
a theme he has repeated over and over since.
"I won't go so far as to say it was terrorism, but there was sabotage here,"
said Hatch. "We're looking at a criminal act. We're looking at somebody who
either put a bomb on it or shot a missile, a surface-to-air missile."
SO where's the evidence of taht on the wreckage you fucking
chucklehead? ANd I thought you siad Kerry said this, not Hatch?
Hatch was likely telling the truth here about the limits of his own knowledge.
Indeed, we have yet to identify a single civilian, including those at work deep
within the investigation, who knew beyond doubt what transpired on the night of
July 17, 1996.
Hatch's recommended follow-up is fully consistent with his beliefs. "The
National Transportation Safety Board should now turn the investigation over to
the FBI because the crash was not related to an aviation problem," added Hatch.
"It's very – almost 100 percent unlikely that this was a mechanical failure."
[emphasis mine]
And how owuld Hatch know? Was he an aeronautical engineer?
In our book, "First Strike," James Sanders and I make this arguably prophetic
comment:
AND THERE IT IS! THere's your motive, some schlub has a book he wants
to sell and will senationalise the most flimsy ***** in order to do it.
You're too stupid to see how you're being manipulated aren't you Tony?
"We went through this flurry of activity, talking about it, but not really
doing [sic] hard work of responding," said Kerry on September 11.
Yes yes yes. SO kerry is an idiot. SO what?
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24 Jan 2004 08:42:19 AM |
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Even John Edwards is going to defeat Howard Dean in New Hampshire,
what's he still doing in this race?
Howard has a clear shot at a pro wrestling career, and he is already
being called the "Ventura Reverse" Dean.
http://www.geocities.com/bobeshope/howard.htm
Ladies and Gentlemen place your bets, Edwards beats Dean's money, in
New Hampshire !
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville" |
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24 Jan 2004 11:52:01 AM |
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Well, DUH -- it was!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
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http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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24 Jan 2004 09:30:10 PM |
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP
wrote:
Well, DUH -- it was!
Of course it was, it was discussed in the US Senate and compared to other
Terrorist attacks.
Tony
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26 Jan 2004 03:16:55 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040124223010.04580.00000610@mb-m10.aol.com...
cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP
wrote:
Well, DUH -- it was!
Of course it was
So how come there's no evidence of it on the airframe then you fucking
chucklehead! How was it brought down?
it was discussed in the US Senate and compared to other
Terrorist attacks.
WRONG.
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville" |
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25 Jan 2004 01:10:14 PM |
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He's sure spiffy with his hockey skating.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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