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Date: 28 Oct 2003 08:33:27 PM
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Every now and then I like to add public service messages
to my ever-burgeoning arsenal of knowledge and awareness
enhancement contributions to these fine, uncensored news-
groups. Topics include the hoaxed apollo "moon" landings,
the lies and disinformation disseminated by the orthodox
in secular science/fundamentalist religious brainwashing,
and a number of "how-to" articles that outline solutions
to everyday problems, like keeping trolls away from your
newsreaders and email clients, and maintaining anonymity
in an unsavory world of emotionally disturbed sexual pre-
ditors, internet stalkers, and would-be identity thieves.
Unmoderated usenet newsgroups are the defacto publishing
medium for posting original works, and forwarding quoted
material, since all articles are permanently archived on
the "google" news archives or what used to be called the
"deja news" archives. By systematically organizing works
into types of articles, and into chapters of whole books
if you're a prolific writer and author, you can preserve
your work and link to it from the "google" server or any
other website of your choosing. The obvious advantage of
using the worldwide news archives presently on google is
that it will always be on-line & available in the future,
whereas most all other websites will eventually be taken
down. Posting to the google archives is always free, and
unlimited as to available disk space, so you can write &
post megabytes of text on a daily basis if that's needed
to completely publish your original work on-line. I have
no need or desire to sell my work, so everything I write
I write for fun and always for free, and always into the
public domain. By using chained PGP & Mixmaster remailer
technologies to sign and encrypt your messages, avoiding
ISP attacks from would-be net cops, censors, whiners and
other childish complainers, this enables the independent
author to publish his or her work freely and without any
disruption. Your work remains published on-line, and any-
one on the planet with an internet connection can access
and download your work anytime they like. Include a link
in your email messages and invite friends and associates
to download your books or articles using any web browser,
add bookmarks or links to other websites, or print pages
out to get a hard copy of your work. The sky's the limit.
You can see clear examples of how this works by browsing
my archived books and articles simply by following links
under my signature below. Anytime I want to update these
links it's easy, quick and permanent. I just write, edit
and post my newest material. Then update your links that
you include with your messages & voilla! Now you're free
to write a brand-new book or article, and publish it for
all the world to read--free, uncensored and uninterupted.
Those who write what may be considered by the mainstream
to be controversial or "forbidden" material like exposes
on cover-ups, disinformation, and other misleading propa-
ganda of any government, business, science, religion, or
whatever catches your attention, write about it and post
your work freely and without interuption. Naturally, the
independent author must write responsibly, carefully and
accurately. Avoid unsubstantiated rumor or slander. Your
first responsibility is to the global Internet community.
Furthermore, facts and theories reasonably substantiated
are likely to attract certain interests. You may want to
be a "whistleblower" in which case you'd do well to docu-
ment your grievances to the proper authorities privately,
before going public with your claims. Exposing criminals
can have serious or even dire consequences if you're not
careful. On rare occasion, some whistleblowers have been
so fearful of the extent of a big cover-up, that they go
public first with their story in order to draw attention,
just in case anything resembling an "accident", "suicide"
or "heart attack" should unexpectedly befall them. Since
most independent authors are just writing about subjects
that interest them, we needn't worry about such flagrant
repercussions. Rather, this is where the common "trolls"
come into the picture whose role is to disrupt, distract
and disinform potential readers in any unmoderated group
to which you're posting or x-posting your material. This
is done in an effort to discourage new visitors from sub-
scribing to the newsgroup, since it is uncensored by the
government, corporations, and their mainstream hierarchy.
To counter their constant and oft-vulgar disruptions, we
use "killfiles" or more sophisticated filtering software
to minimize such interuptions. For example I require any-
one sending me email messages to use a password which is
known only to myself & my closest friends and associates.
Any message not containing the proper password is always
automatically deleted from my email server--before it is
downloaded. That way I never get any spam messages, ever.
I do keep a log that shows how many messages are deleted
from my various news- and email-servers, and I find that
about 99.9% of all messages are spam or newsgroup trolls
whose futile attempts to clutter my news & email browser
with their poppycock goes unseen & deleted...making it a
lot easier to read legitimate articles and email. Thus I
can concentrate on my work and entirely avoid disruption.
For most computer users, using common software like "Out-
look Express" to read news or email messages is adequate
to "killfile" at least 75% of such spammers and trollers,
by creating rules for the messages, or simply blocking a
sender. More sophisticated programs provide more options.
I use three different freeware programs as layers of pro-
tection against undesirable spamming and trolling. These
are called Nfilter (NewsProxy), Xnews, and Hamster. Book-
mark these weblinks and download these freeware programs:
http://www.nfilter.org
http://xnews.newsguy.com
http://home.arcor.de/tgl70/misc/hamster_en.htm
Now, Nfilter and Xnews are relatively simple to learn to
use for experienced computer users. Hamster, however, is
somewhat more difficult to learn, but is worth it, since
it allows for message-body context-sensitive rules which
come in handy for the more "generic" or "copycat" trolls,
especially the "stalkers" who are assigned to your posts.
I picked up a stalker in alt.astrology several years ago
who's replied to about every one of my articles with the
same, always unsigned collected buffoonery bogusness ten-
thousand times over, usually using the old "x-no-archive"
header to prevent it from appearing in "google" searches.
You'd think that "stalkers" would be a bit more creative?
Again, Hamster enables anyone to filter out such garbage.
There was a time when I posted my Xnews "score.ini" file,
mainly for the benefit of first-time visitors to some of
my favorite newsgroups dealing with astronomy, astrology,
mythology, tarot, nostradamus, & other scientific groups.
Years of experience taught me to keep my scoring methods
unpublished, since trolls try to get around your filters
since it's their job to try to discourage you and others
who are seriously interested in the group subject matter
from posting topical, but "forbidden" papers or books on
the subject. Generally, but not always, it's "debunkers"
and "whiners" who are the most active trolls on the news-
groups since they want to discourage substantive writing,
reading and dialogue from being posted to unmoderated or
uncensored newsgroups--since "moderators" are usually in-
competent, and they'll bypass anything they don't unders-
tand or agree with, especially if it makes them look bad,
so I make a habit of avoiding any "moderated" newsgroups.
In summary, using the newsgroups to publish your writing
is the surest and easiest way to get your work out there
in the public eye, especially if what you write about is
considered particularly controversial or "forbidden" for
mainstream viewing. Effective filtering against spam and
trolling makes your online experience far more enjoyable,
efficient and will help you stay focused on your writing.
GOOGLE
Now it's also very useful to learn how to search for
archived news articles on the "google" search engine.
The following text is a facsmile of this web page on:
http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search
_________________________________________________________________________
Google Groups Help | All About Google
Groups Advanced Groups Search
with all of the words |_______________| |10 messages|
Find
messages with the exact phrase |_______________| |Sort by relevance|
with at least one of the words |_________|
without the words |_______________|

Newsgroup Return only messages from the newsgroup |_______________|
(Example: ...)
Subject Return only messages where the subject contains |________|
Author Return only messages where the author is |_______________|
Message ID Find the message with message ID |_______________|
(Example: ...)
Language Return messages written in |any language |v|

Message { } Return messages posted: |anytime|
{x} Return messages posted between |12|May|1981| and |1|Jan|2005|

SafeSearch { } No filtering {x} Filter using SafeSearch

(c) 2003 Google
_________________________________________________________________________
First, "Filter using SafeSearch" is always activated.
This instantly filters out 99% of all troll messages
since most of them always use inappropriate language.
By using combinations of these search parameters, it
doesn't take much to narrow down your search results
while filtering out unwanted "troll" messages in any
message thread. For example, my own posts are always
signed by me using PGP, and I always post to certain
newsgroups like alt.astrology. By using "without the
words" judiciously e.g. common troll-insults and the
like, I can quickly winnow out the chaff, and return
only messages that I myself have posted. Since every
experienced author tends to use certain phrases that
others seldom if ever use, like names and signatures,
and you search only your usual newsgroup(s), you can
then add keywords to isolate only those messages you
are looking for, regardless of what names you posted
under in the "from" field. Since remailer servers go
down from time to time, and many of them use various
aliases which the user can't customize, and I've had
many trolls who simply copied my name and email addy
and routinely trolled my articles, I discovered that
only by using PGP to clearsign every one of my posts
was I able to emphatically identify and authenticate
my autograph manuscripts--and thwart any attempts at
counterfeiting or forging my signature. That's why I
recommend always using PGP, just like every remailer
operator says you should always use PGP to sign your
posts, thereby assuring your readers that it's yours
and not some bogus forgery. Since trolls misquote or
fabricate "quotes" and wrongly attribute them to any-
one whose character they're trying to assassinate it
behooves the serious author to PGP-sign all articles.
Otherwise, anyone can "quote" you without verifiable
sources. PGP protects your reputation against attack
and readily exposes unscrupulous attackers as trolls.
Thus every one of my posts is always PGP-clearsigned,
that way I retain credit for everything I've written,
and I cannot be credited for anything I didn't write.
You can search the google news archives for anything
about any subject and usually find it with thousands
of active discussion groups online. I've often found
obscure information on these newsgroup archives that
don't otherwise appear on the usual website searches,
since news articles are more often based on personal
experience which is commonly more specific than most
websites are likely to be in detailing an experience,
and showing replies from others of similar expertise
in the matter. E.g. you can search the web for pages
of "judicial astrology" and get thousands of hits on
the subject few if any of which are genuinely useful,
since it is an extraordinarily obscure subject which
only a select few people in the world understand, or
have practical experience with. But search it on the
newsgroups, and you're more apt to find helpful data
on the subject. I know this since that's in my field
of expertise. The point is whatever you're searching
for on the web, try searching newsgroups for it also.
Odds are, you'll find more useful data on newsgroups,
especially if what you are searching for is uncommon.
If you're a serious writer, lurkers are your biggest
audience. There are numerous reasons for subscribers
to avoid posting or responding to newsgroup articles
that they are otherwise reading. Now that Google has
made it so easy to search for information on the net,
it may be just some small part of what you've posted
that gains someone's attention. Others may find your
subject matter or writing style of interest. Perhaps
your expertise in a particular subject is recognized
by a select few, yet unbeknown to the general public.
Oftentimes, writers of all walks of life are seeking
inspiration, a catchy phrase or two, memorable words,
a one-liner that some screenwriter or novelist finds
appealing when they get a bad case of writer's block.
You can be certain that friendly government agencies
are archiving every single bit of data in triplicate,
albeit whether or not any of your stuff gets noticed
is doubtful--unless you're some kind of threat to na-
tional security? Like terrorists or their supporters
who're likely already under much closer surveillance
than they suspect or realize. Otherwise, it'll be up
to some civilian lurkers out there for you to get no-
ticed. So it's up to you to notice when you're being
noticed. Or if you don't possess such a subtle sense
for pattern recognition, then be content that it can
and does happen...you may even notice it on occasion.
Above all don't be discouraged if you're not getting
the intelligent responses that your work deserves by
the usual newsgroup channels. While newsgroups are a
great place to publish your work, they are the least
likely place to find intellectually-motivated respon-
ses. Almost all respondents are trolls and debunkers,
fodder for the killfile, not for engaging in replies.
If you have any problem with self-confidence, if you
are easily dissuaded by would-be "debunkers" and the
like, just post your work and be done with it. Don't
even bother reading replies, since odds are that you
wouldn't find them constructive or useful regardless.
Because I've written & posted so much material these
past few years, I've been encouraged by reading some
intelligent replies to my work on the newsgroups and
that's why I've opted to use kill-filters. So that I
can continue to read such replies without disruption,
and I can find other interesting articles written or
forwarded by others which are occasionally worth the
read--even saving some articles for future reference.
Those who write and post, or simply forward original
material are far more likely to be intellectual than
the usual trolls and their entourage of sock puppets
who seldom if ever write and share anything of value.
If you're subscribed to a busy newsgroup, then you'd
do well to use kill-filters and use them judiciously.
Trolls, whiners, complainers, debunkers or what have
you. Unless they're serious contributors to the news-
groups, killfile 'em every chance you get. Otherwise
you'll spend most of your time sifting through trash
like some crazed dumpster-diving derelict. Nuff said.
Daniel Joseph Min
*All Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VTKA4X1O37500.9704861111@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7RL5KJIX37499.1691435185@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Astronomical Observations:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Historical Calendar Of Jesus:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=26e3a5d035bdf01fc61d36884deac0e4@cryptorebels.net
*Min's Compleat Tarot Manual:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DYR1OZ3237765.6052777778@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Light & Sound:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HIDW4JQJ37765.6015509259@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Planetary Awareness Technique (work in progress):
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZGBJG50237909.869525463@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XWB7QJO37766.971099537@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0XNKAO4L37773.8337962963@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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User: "WH"

Title: "Killing Trolls & Debunkers" was Posted by a troll! 29 Oct 2003 04:53:35 AM
"Bang You're Dead" <death.to.trolls.and.debunkers@maximum.kill-power.rip>
wrote in message news:MJX02Y1037923.1478240741@Gilgamesh-frog.org...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Every now and then I like to add public service messages
to my ever-burgeoning arsenal of knowledge and awareness
enhancement contributions to these fine, uncensored news-
groups. Topics include the hoaxed apollo "moon" landings,
the lies and disinformation disseminated by the orthodox
in secular science/fundamentalist religious brainwashing,
and a number of "how-to" articles that outline solutions
to everyday problems, like keeping trolls away from your
newsreaders and email clients, and maintaining anonymity
in an unsavory world of emotionally disturbed sexual pre-
ditors, internet stalkers, and would-be identity thieves.

Unmoderated usenet newsgroups are the defacto publishing
medium for posting original works, and forwarding quoted
material, since all articles are permanently archived on
the "google" news archives or what used to be called the
"deja news" archives. By systematically organizing works
into types of articles, and into chapters of whole books
if you're a prolific writer and author, you can preserve
your work and link to it from the "google" server or any
other website of your choosing. The obvious advantage of
using the worldwide news archives presently on google is
that it will always be on-line & available in the future,
whereas most all other websites will eventually be taken
down. Posting to the google archives is always free, and
unlimited as to available disk space, so you can write &
post megabytes of text on a daily basis if that's needed
to completely publish your original work on-line. I have
no need or desire to sell my work, so everything I write
I write for fun and always for free, and always into the
public domain. By using chained PGP & Mixmaster remailer
technologies to sign and encrypt your messages, avoiding
ISP attacks from would-be net cops, censors, whiners and
other childish complainers, this enables the independent
author to publish his or her work freely and without any
disruption. Your work remains published on-line, and any-
one on the planet with an internet connection can access
and download your work anytime they like. Include a link
in your email messages and invite friends and associates
to download your books or articles using any web browser,
add bookmarks or links to other websites, or print pages
out to get a hard copy of your work. The sky's the limit.

You can see clear examples of how this works by browsing
my archived books and articles simply by following links
under my signature below. Anytime I want to update these
links it's easy, quick and permanent. I just write, edit
and post my newest material. Then update your links that
you include with your messages & voilla! Now you're free
to write a brand-new book or article, and publish it for
all the world to read--free, uncensored and uninterupted.

Those who write what may be considered by the mainstream
to be controversial or "forbidden" material like exposes
on cover-ups, disinformation, and other misleading propa-
ganda of any government, business, science, religion, or
whatever catches your attention, write about it and post
your work freely and without interuption. Naturally, the
independent author must write responsibly, carefully and
accurately. Avoid unsubstantiated rumor or slander. Your
first responsibility is to the global Internet community.
Furthermore, facts and theories reasonably substantiated
are likely to attract certain interests. You may want to
be a "whistleblower" in which case you'd do well to docu-
ment your grievances to the proper authorities privately,
before going public with your claims. Exposing criminals
can have serious or even dire consequences if you're not
careful. On rare occasion, some whistleblowers have been
so fearful of the extent of a big cover-up, that they go
public first with their story in order to draw attention,
just in case anything resembling an "accident", "suicide"
or "heart attack" should unexpectedly befall them. Since
most independent authors are just writing about subjects
that interest them, we needn't worry about such flagrant
repercussions. Rather, this is where the common "trolls"
come into the picture whose role is to disrupt, distract
and disinform potential readers in any unmoderated group
to which you're posting or x-posting your material. This
is done in an effort to discourage new visitors from sub-
scribing to the newsgroup, since it is uncensored by the
government, corporations, and their mainstream hierarchy.

To counter their constant and oft-vulgar disruptions, we
use "killfiles" or more sophisticated filtering software
to minimize such interuptions. For example I require any-
one sending me email messages to use a password which is
known only to myself & my closest friends and associates.
Any message not containing the proper password is always
automatically deleted from my email server--before it is
downloaded. That way I never get any spam messages, ever.
I do keep a log that shows how many messages are deleted
from my various news- and email-servers, and I find that
about 99.9% of all messages are spam or newsgroup trolls
whose futile attempts to clutter my news & email browser
with their poppycock goes unseen & deleted...making it a
lot easier to read legitimate articles and email. Thus I
can concentrate on my work and entirely avoid disruption.

For most computer users, using common software like "Out-
look Express" to read news or email messages is adequate
to "killfile" at least 75% of such spammers and trollers,
by creating rules for the messages, or simply blocking a
sender. More sophisticated programs provide more options.
I use three different freeware programs as layers of pro-
tection against undesirable spamming and trolling. These
are called Nfilter (NewsProxy), Xnews, and Hamster. Book-
mark these weblinks and download these freeware programs:

http://www.nfilter.org
http://xnews.newsguy.com
http://home.arcor.de/tgl70/misc/hamster_en.htm

Now, Nfilter and Xnews are relatively simple to learn to
use for experienced computer users. Hamster, however, is
somewhat more difficult to learn, but is worth it, since
it allows for message-body context-sensitive rules which
come in handy for the more "generic" or "copycat" trolls,
especially the "stalkers" who are assigned to your posts.
I picked up a stalker in alt.astrology several years ago
who's replied to about every one of my articles with the
same, always unsigned collected buffoonery bogusness ten-
thousand times over, usually using the old "x-no-archive"
header to prevent it from appearing in "google" searches.
You'd think that "stalkers" would be a bit more creative?
Again, Hamster enables anyone to filter out such garbage.

There was a time when I posted my Xnews "score.ini" file,
mainly for the benefit of first-time visitors to some of
my favorite newsgroups dealing with astronomy, astrology,
mythology, tarot, nostradamus, & other scientific groups.
Years of experience taught me to keep my scoring methods
unpublished, since trolls try to get around your filters
since it's their job to try to discourage you and others
who are seriously interested in the group subject matter
from posting topical, but "forbidden" papers or books on
the subject. Generally, but not always, it's "debunkers"
and "whiners" who are the most active trolls on the news-
groups since they want to discourage substantive writing,
reading and dialogue from being posted to unmoderated or
uncensored newsgroups--since "moderators" are usually in-
competent, and they'll bypass anything they don't unders-
tand or agree with, especially if it makes them look bad,
so I make a habit of avoiding any "moderated" newsgroups.

In summary, using the newsgroups to publish your writing
is the surest and easiest way to get your work out there
in the public eye, especially if what you write about is
considered particularly controversial or "forbidden" for
mainstream viewing. Effective filtering against spam and
trolling makes your online experience far more enjoyable,
efficient and will help you stay focused on your writing.


GOOGLE

Now it's also very useful to learn how to search for
archived news articles on the "google" search engine.
The following text is a facsmile of this web page on:

http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search

_________________________________________________________________________

Google Groups Help | All About Google
Groups Advanced Groups Search

with all of the words |_______________| |10 messages|
Find
messages with the exact phrase |_______________| |Sort by relevance|

with at least one of the words |_________|

without the words |_______________|


Newsgroup Return only messages from the newsgroup |_______________|
(Example: ...)
Subject Return only messages where the subject contains |________|

Author Return only messages where the author is |_______________|

Message ID Find the message with message ID |_______________|
(Example: ...)

Language Return messages written in |any language |v|

Message { } Return messages posted: |anytime|

{x} Return messages posted between |12|May|1981| and |1|Jan|2005|

SafeSearch { } No filtering {x} Filter using SafeSearch

(c) 2003 Google
_________________________________________________________________________

First, "Filter using SafeSearch" is always activated.
This instantly filters out 99% of all troll messages
since most of them always use inappropriate language.
By using combinations of these search parameters, it
doesn't take much to narrow down your search results
while filtering out unwanted "troll" messages in any
message thread. For example, my own posts are always
signed by me using PGP, and I always post to certain
newsgroups like alt.astrology. By using "without the
words" judiciously e.g. common troll-insults and the
like, I can quickly winnow out the chaff, and return
only messages that I myself have posted. Since every
experienced author tends to use certain phrases that
others seldom if ever use, like names and signatures,
and you search only your usual newsgroup(s), you can
then add keywords to isolate only those messages you
are looking for, regardless of what names you posted
under in the "from" field. Since remailer servers go
down from time to time, and many of them use various
aliases which the user can't customize, and I've had
many trolls who simply copied my name and email addy
and routinely trolled my articles, I discovered that
only by using PGP to clearsign every one of my posts
was I able to emphatically identify and authenticate
my autograph manuscripts--and thwart any attempts at
counterfeiting or forging my signature. That's why I
recommend always using PGP, just like every remailer
operator says you should always use PGP to sign your
posts, thereby assuring your readers that it's yours
and not some bogus forgery. Since trolls misquote or
fabricate "quotes" and wrongly attribute them to any-
one whose character they're trying to assassinate it
behooves the serious author to PGP-sign all articles.
Otherwise, anyone can "quote" you without verifiable
sources. PGP protects your reputation against attack
and readily exposes unscrupulous attackers as trolls.
Thus every one of my posts is always PGP-clearsigned,
that way I retain credit for everything I've written,
and I cannot be credited for anything I didn't write.

You can search the google news archives for anything
about any subject and usually find it with thousands
of active discussion groups online. I've often found
obscure information on these newsgroup archives that
don't otherwise appear on the usual website searches,
since news articles are more often based on personal
experience which is commonly more specific than most
websites are likely to be in detailing an experience,
and showing replies from others of similar expertise
in the matter. E.g. you can search the web for pages
of "judicial astrology" and get thousands of hits on
the subject few if any of which are genuinely useful,
since it is an extraordinarily obscure subject which
only a select few people in the world understand, or
have practical experience with. But search it on the
newsgroups, and you're more apt to find helpful data
on the subject. I know this since that's in my field
of expertise. The point is whatever you're searching
for on the web, try searching newsgroups for it also.
Odds are, you'll find more useful data on newsgroups,
especially if what you are searching for is uncommon.

If you're a serious writer, lurkers are your biggest
audience. There are numerous reasons for subscribers
to avoid posting or responding to newsgroup articles
that they are otherwise reading. Now that Google has
made it so easy to search for information on the net,
it may be just some small part of what you've posted
that gains someone's attention. Others may find your
subject matter or writing style of interest. Perhaps
your expertise in a particular subject is recognized
by a select few, yet unbeknown to the general public.
Oftentimes, writers of all walks of life are seeking
inspiration, a catchy phrase or two, memorable words,
a one-liner that some screenwriter or novelist finds
appealing when they get a bad case of writer's block.

You can be certain that friendly government agencies
are archiving every single bit of data in triplicate,
albeit whether or not any of your stuff gets noticed
is doubtful--unless you're some kind of threat to na-
tional security? Like terrorists or their supporters
who're likely already under much closer surveillance
than they suspect or realize. Otherwise, it'll be up
to some civilian lurkers out there for you to get no-
ticed. So it's up to you to notice when you're being
noticed. Or if you don't possess such a subtle sense
for pattern recognition, then be content that it can
and does happen...you may even notice it on occasion.

Above all don't be discouraged if you're not getting
the intelligent responses that your work deserves by
the usual newsgroup channels. While newsgroups are a
great place to publish your work, they are the least
likely place to find intellectually-motivated respon-
ses. Almost all respondents are trolls and debunkers,
fodder for the killfile, not for engaging in replies.
If you have any problem with self-confidence, if you
are easily dissuaded by would-be "debunkers" and the
like, just post your work and be done with it. Don't
even bother reading replies, since odds are that you
wouldn't find them constructive or useful regardless.

Because I've written & posted so much material these
past few years, I've been encouraged by reading some
intelligent replies to my work on the newsgroups and
that's why I've opted to use kill-filters. So that I
can continue to read such replies without disruption,
and I can find other interesting articles written or
forwarded by others which are occasionally worth the
read--even saving some articles for future reference.
Those who write and post, or simply forward original
material are far more likely to be intellectual than
the usual trolls and their entourage of sock puppets
who seldom if ever write and share anything of value.

If you're subscribed to a busy newsgroup, then you'd
do well to use kill-filters and use them judiciously.
Trolls, whiners, complainers, debunkers or what have
you. Unless they're serious contributors to the news-
groups, killfile 'em every chance you get. Otherwise
you'll spend most of your time sifting through trash
like some crazed dumpster-diving derelict. Nuff said.

Daniel Joseph Min

*All Moon Missions Were Unmanned:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VTKA4X1O37500.9704861111@Gilgamesh-frog
..org


*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7RL5KJIX37499.1691435185@Gilgamesh-frog
..org


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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog
..org


*Min's Historical Calendar Of Jesus:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=26e3a5d035bdf01fc61d36884deac0e4@crypto
rebels.net


*Min's Compleat Tarot Manual:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DYR1OZ3237765.6052777778@Gilgamesh-frog
..org


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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HIDW4JQJ37765.6015509259@Gilgamesh-frog
..org


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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZGBJG50237909.869525463@Gilgamesh-frog.
org


*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XWB7QJO37766.971099537@Gilgamesh-frog.
org


*Min's Home Page On The World Wide Web:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0XNKAO4L37773.8337962963@Gilgamesh-frog
..org


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User: "Info"

Title: Re: "Killing Trolls & Debunkers" was Posted by a troll! 29 Oct 2003 09:06:08 AM
In article <3f9f9d3c@fnewsb.telia.net>
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:



"Bang You're Dead" <death.to.trolls.and.debunkers@maximum.kill-power.rip>
wrote in message news:MJX02Y1037923.1478240741@Gilgamesh-frog.org...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Every now and then I like to add public service messages

So why repost the who stupid thing?
.


User: "Sid See"

Title: Re: Killing Trolls & Debunkers - Public Service Message 29 Oct 2003 05:36:12 PM
Bang You're Dead <death.to.trolls.and.debunkers@maximum.kill-power.rip> wrote in message
news:MJX02Y1037923.1478240741@Gilgamesh-frog.org...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Every now and then I like to add public service messages
to my ever-burgeoning arsenal of knowledge and awareness
enhancement contributions to these fine, uncensored news-
groups.

That's humorous... while indeed, you
may be bright, your obviously see the
world through a Neptunian delusion.
Neptune on the MC perhaps?

Topics include the hoaxed apollo "moon" landings,

You haven't one shred of evidence
that could prove the landing was a
hoax. I challenged you on this before -
without response, I might add...
Sid
.
User: "World War Three 2003"

Title: Re: Killing Trolls & Debunkers - Public Service Message 29 Oct 2003 11:21:29 PM
That's our Danny Boy ;-)
or is that "Doctor" Minsky or "Professor" Minski ?!?
but *definately* "Delusional Danny" !!!!!
"Sid See" <sidsee@nospam.cox.net> wrote in message news:<J2Ynb.57808$B_2.47938@okepread02>...

Bang You're Dead <death.to.trolls.and.debunkers@maximum.kill-power.rip> wrote in message
news:MJX02Y1037923.1478240741@Gilgamesh-frog.org...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Every now and then I like to add public service messages
to my ever-burgeoning arsenal of knowledge and awareness
enhancement contributions to these fine, uncensored news-
groups.


That's humorous... while indeed, you
may be bright, your obviously see the
world through a Neptunian delusion.
Neptune on the MC perhaps?

Topics include the hoaxed apollo "moon" landings,


You haven't one shred of evidence
that could prove the landing was a
hoax. I challenged you on this before -
without response, I might add...

Sid

.


User: "Info"

Title: Re: Killing Trolls & Debunkers - Public Service Message 28 Oct 2003 10:44:03 PM
In article <MJX02Y1037923.1478240741@Gilgamesh-frog.org>
Bang You're Dead <death.to.trolls.and.debunkers@maximum.kill-power.rip> wrote:


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Every now and then I like to add public service messages
to my ever-burgeoning arsenal of knowledge and awareness

Translation: You will continue to morph and annoy 1000s of good people.
You preach killfiles but won't allow us to put you in ours.
Why is that?
.

User: "Mr. 4X"

Title: Re: Killing Trolls & Debunkers - Public Service Message 29 Oct 2003 03:39:53 PM
Mean <death.to.trolls.and.debunkers@maximum.kill-power.rip> wrote in
message news:MJX02Y1037923.1478240741@Gilgamesh-frog.org:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Every now and then I like to<SLAP>

change the ID and post crap. I know.
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