Sept 11th, Bin Laden aka King of Terror, now China, rise of the
Mongols, symbolic for Ghengis Khan who almost conquered the world,
seems to be saying to me that the new rise of China, as stated in this
Quatrain would be like that of Khan, king of the Mongols. It's very
clear to any intelligent person who follows current events that there
is a silent war going on in the world right now, a major world war
between the U.S. it's few allies and China and it's increasing number
of allies who just want the money. China is buying the world up,
imagine a communist dictatorship owning and ruling the world, a regime
with no principals, no belief in God or Gods, or anything other then
financial domination and soon, military might more powerful than
America's....
My grandfather use to say, Americans buy all this junk they don't need,
blind to the fact that they are feeding the beast that will devour
their children..
Once could easily ignore my theory on this Quatrain and say China is
simply trying to fuel it's rapid growth just like America did, but look
around, the world, China is now operating in countries known for their
sorrow human rights record, as well as supplying these nations and
dicators with weapons to control and massacre their people. Look back,
all the back to Rwanda, Sudan, now Zibabwe, they are also taking their
toll on our environment, far worse then the world can sustain. America
played a major role in the destruction of this planet, but wait until
China gets in our shoes.. They are already buying up huge amounts of
ancient rain forests, mining and drilling for oil all over South
America...
We are truly witnessing the rise of the king of the mongols..
Im not a big reader of Nostradamus, so if anyone could offer some ideas
of whats is next, I would appreciate it if they could post here. Also,
are all the X century quatrains in relation to the 21st?
Thanks.
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| User: "TheCO" |
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| Title: Re: King of Mongols, Rise of China? |
30 Mar 2005 11:21:53 PM |
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BL wrote:
and soon, military might more powerful than
America's....
Mmmm, you'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
My grandfather use to say, Americans buy all this junk they don't need,
blind to the fact that they are feeding the beast that will devour
their children..
That has not been demonstrated. China's only military power is the
sheer size of it's army. The navy and air force are nothing to write
home about, particularly the navy which lacks both anything like a CBG,
much less multiple CBGs. This limits their force projection to land
mass conflicts, so they could decide to break out and hammer Europe but
unless they swim a whole lot better than I think they do, the US is
pretty much out of reach.
The CO
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| User: "FourCell" |
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02 Apr 2005 02:21:49 AM |
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China's military is primarily for self defense, and for planning to
re-control Taiwan when the time is right.
China does not need to beat the US militarily. That would be playing
by the US's game plan.The US has a Maginot Line mentality.
China will bury the US by sheer strength of productive and export
capability, by technology, by alliances with Russia and India and
by trade with the EU. The US will become even more self-absorbed
and paranoid. And the world will laugh even harder, rather than pity
the idiots who call themselves "NeoCons", .the "wannabes", who
pretend to love life - yet worship war, having never experienced the
horrors of war themselves. For this reason they are not just stupid,
but evil, with blood on their hands they cannot wash off.
Yes - China is rising. The United States sowed the wind, and will reap
the whirlwind.
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| User: "The CO" |
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02 Apr 2005 05:20:26 AM |
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FourCell wrote:
China's military is primarily for self defense, and for planning to
re-control Taiwan when the time is right.
If they are smart (and I think they are) they'll wait until Taiwan
decides to come into the fold willingly, probably under some limited
self rule setup like Hong Kong. This will probably happen if they are
patient, probably 10 years at most. If they jump the gun and start a
shooting war they will lose the support of the world community and
probably not get Taiwan back either as there is no doubt in my mind (and
probably not in theirs either) that the US would come out swinging in
such an event and it's very unlikely China would get much support from
anywhere else in the world if they acted in such a manner.
China does not need to beat the US militarily. That would be playing
by the US's game plan.The US has a Maginot Line mentality.
China cannot defeat the US militarily unless the US invades China where
they have an advantage. Everywhere else they are incapable of doing so.
Maginot Line? I don't think so. That implies a defense dependent on
fixed fortifications that can be readily bypassed. Such is not the case.
China will bury the US by sheer strength of productive and export
capability,
They can flood the world with cheap tvs and videe and dvd players but
it's not going to 'bury' anyone, despite you wishing for it to happen.
by technology,
Not hardly, the Chinese have no technology they didn't steal, copy and
modify for their own useage. They don't do anything like the R&D
necessary to 'out technology' the US.
by alliances with Russia
Not bloody likely.
and India
They are making approaches there, but the ideological differences will
prevent any true alliance, particularly if the US is on the other side
of the fence.
by trade with the EU.
The EU can't agree when to have lunch, much less what's on the menu.
The US will become even more self-absorbed
and paranoid. And the world will laugh even harder, rather than pity
the idiots who call themselves "NeoCons", .the "wannabes", who
pretend to love life - yet worship war, having never experienced the
horrors of war themselves. For this reason they are not just stupid,
but evil, with blood on their hands they cannot wash off.
You really are a red rag waving fruit loop aren't you.
Yes - China is rising. The United States sowed the wind, and will reap
the whirlwind.
Codswallop and you know it. All the wishful thinking in the world will
not see the US go under to China. By any means you have described.
If you think China is such a wonderful place, why don't you emigrate?
Or perhaps North Korea, that workers paradise would welcome you with
open arms? On second thought, you might get mistaken for some thing
edible so I wouldn't go there...
China is a second rate power, it has a human sea of peasants for an
army, a navy that couldn't seriously challenge one carrier battle group
much less several and an air force that is mostly museum pieces.
They are caught in an ideological quagmire of their own making.
The CO
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: King of Mongols, Rise of China? |
03 Apr 2005 06:11:20 PM |
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So who kicked the Us's butt in Korea, poor old Mc Arthur oh there is no
one down there I have looked myself!
They do not call it a wall of Iron for nothing, and they do not stay,
just a punitive attack 2 weeks and off saying do not do it again or we
will will smack,
LB
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: King of Mongols, Rise of China? |
31 Mar 2005 03:13:18 AM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:51:53 +0930, TheCO <the_xo@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
BL wrote:
and soon, military might more powerful than
America's....
Mmmm, you'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
My grandfather use to say, Americans buy all this junk they don't need,
blind to the fact that they are feeding the beast that will devour
their children..
That has not been demonstrated. China's only military power is the
sheer size of it's army. The navy and air force are nothing to write
home about, particularly the navy which lacks both anything like a CBG,
much less multiple CBGs. This limits their force projection to land
mass conflicts, so they could decide to break out and hammer Europe but
unless they swim a whole lot better than I think they do, the US is
pretty much out of reach.
The CO
Hahahah, what a fucking MORON. US out of reach? Wake up out of your
bubble there CO you loser piece of *****. The US will soon get what's
coming to them. Your fucking chimp president has you dumb Americunts
all brainwashed into thinking you are in the right, my bet is that the
Anti-Christ is pulling your puppet president's chain.
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| User: "The CO" |
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31 Mar 2005 08:57:12 AM |
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Hahahah, what a fucking MORON.
If you think I'm stupid kookboi, that's a good thing.
US out of reach?
Yep. Oh, they could toss some nukes that way, and the US would get
hurt, however the retaliation would be swift and massive and at the end
of the day, there would still be a US but there would be no China in any
sort of organised, governed form.
Wake up out of your bubble there CO you loser piece of *****.
I'm going to lend you one of my sergeants, your insults are very
unimaginative and not even slightly intimidating.
Actually, make that a corporal, sergeants insults would be over your
head like a hangar roof.
The US will soon get what's coming to them.
Yeah, right. North Koreas been saying that for 50 years plus.
Excuse me if I don't hold my breath. China would be toast if they
pulls something nuclear and they can't even take back Taiwan without
the US getting in their face.
Your fucking chimp president
Oh dear, you really ARE stupid aren't you. (That was not a question, it
was a statement)
I hate to break it to you, but he's not my President. We don't have a
President, we have a Prime Minister and a Queen, remember? Australia?
British Commonwealth? Hello?
< has you dumb Americunts
Some Yanks are all the above. Some are not. But since I'm not American
it's really not that important to me now is it.
all brainwashed into thinking you are in the right, my bet is that the
Anti-Christ is pulling your puppet president's chain.
Except that there is no such thing as an antichrist and I have no
president, puppet or otherwise.
Are you truly so stupid you can't tell where a newsgroup post comes
from? Apparently....
The CO
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| User: "" |
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01 Apr 2005 12:13:11 PM |
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"Yep. Oh, they could toss some nukes that way, and the US would get
hurt, however the retaliation would be swift and massive and at the end
of the day, there would still be a US but there would be no China in
any
sort of organised, governed form.
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If this happens, there is absolutely no winner between US and China.
The solo winner will be Euro. You wanna see US downgrade to the second
class country?
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| User: "The CO" |
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01 Apr 2005 06:28:06 PM |
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wrote:
"Yep. Oh, they could toss some nukes that way, and the US would get
hurt, however the retaliation would be swift and massive and at the end
of the day, there would still be a US but there would be no China in
any sort of organised, governed form.
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If this happens, there is absolutely no winner between US and China.
Depends on how many get lobbed in which direction and how many get
through. I'd probably count on close to 90% success rate on US
launches, Chinese rockets and warheads would be less so and they have
less to start with.
The solo winner will be Euro.
Possibly, depends how much damage is done. Not impossible China might
lob a few that way as well to try and cripple NATO, remember that an
attack on any member of NATO is considered an attack on them all.
I'd say a more likely result would be global economic haitus until the
dust settles, with the possibility of other conflicts in the aftermath.
I can't see any major player supporting China. The Russians would toast
the US in vodka for taking them out.
What China lacks is any second strike capability, they have no viable
sub platforms and any they field are going to get zapped by hunter
killer subs long before they can launch.
You wanna see US downgrade to the second
class country?
I don't want to see any part of it, I'm speculating on the outcome.
The CO
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| User: "" |
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01 Apr 2005 09:06:42 PM |
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Possibly, depends how much damage is done. Not impossible China
might
lob a few that way as well to try and cripple NATO, remember that an
attack on any member of NATO is considered an attack on them all.
I'd say a more likely result would be global economic haitus until
the
dust settles, with the possibility of other conflicts in the
aftermath.
I can't see any major player supporting China. The Russians would
toast
the US in vodka for taking them out.
In a war with China, US doesn't need any supporters. But, I do NOT
think currently US still can count on NATO. Look at Iraq war.
But, it's always good to fix the problem w/o war. Besides, the only
possibilty for a war between US and China is conflict in Taiwan. I just
don't think it's a smart move for US government to lose many many
American soliders' lifes to fight for that small island which is
nothing to do US. If it does happen, the global semiconductor supplies
are just dead.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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31 Mar 2005 07:54:04 AM |
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TheCO wrote:
BL wrote:
and soon, military might more powerful than
America's....
Mmmm, you'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for that to
happen.
My grandfather use to say, Americans buy all this junk they don't need,
blind to the fact that they are feeding the beast that will devour
their children..
That has not been demonstrated. China's only military power is the
sheer size of it's army. The navy and air force are nothing to write
home about, particularly the navy which lacks both anything like a CBG,
much less multiple CBGs. This limits their force projection to land
mass conflicts, so they could decide to break out and hammer Europe but
unless they swim a whole lot better than I think they do, the US is
pretty much out of reach.
The CO
Maybe they'll immigrate to the U.S. then get elected to the highest
offices. From there they could change the constitution and eliminate the
two part system.
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| User: "The CO" |
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31 Mar 2005 08:25:27 AM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:
TheCO wrote:
Maybe they'll immigrate to the U.S. then get elected to the highest
offices. From there they could change the constitution
Mmm, it would require more than a few in high places to change the
constitution. 2/3 of the states have to agree to it and I can't picture
that happening.
and eliminate the
two part system.
As for the previous proposal, but even more difficult.
No chance, none.
The only state that seems in danger of being taken over by Chinese
immigrants seems to be California, in a two horse race with Mexicans.
Long way from an ability to alter the constitution.
The CO
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| User: "" |
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31 Mar 2005 11:57:48 AM |
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First of all I suggest you study more Asian history. 'Ghengis Khan' is
NOT Chinese. He (and his sons, grandsons) conquered China, and ruled
China for over 200 yrs. Finally they were kicked out of China by Ming
dynasty.
BL wrote:
Sept 11th, Bin Laden aka King of Terror, now China, rise of the
Mongols, symbolic for Ghengis Khan who almost conquered the world,
seems to be saying to me that the new rise of China, as stated in
this
Quatrain would be like that of Khan, king of the Mongols. It's very
clear to any intelligent person who follows current events that there
is a silent war going on in the world right now, a major world war
between the U.S. it's few allies and China and it's increasing number
of allies who just want the money. China is buying the world up,
imagine a communist dictatorship owning and ruling the world, a
regime
with no principals, no belief in God or Gods, or anything other then
financial domination and soon, military might more powerful than
America's....
My grandfather use to say, Americans buy all this junk they don't
need,
blind to the fact that they are feeding the beast that will devour
their children..
Once could easily ignore my theory on this Quatrain and say China is
simply trying to fuel it's rapid growth just like America did, but
look
around, the world, China is now operating in countries known for
their
sorrow human rights record, as well as supplying these nations and
dicators with weapons to control and massacre their people. Look
back,
all the back to Rwanda, Sudan, now Zibabwe, they are also taking
their
toll on our environment, far worse then the world can sustain.
America
played a major role in the destruction of this planet, but wait until
China gets in our shoes.. They are already buying up huge amounts of
ancient rain forests, mining and drilling for oil all over South
America...
We are truly witnessing the rise of the king of the mongols..
Im not a big reader of Nostradamus, so if anyone could offer some
ideas
of whats is next, I would appreciate it if they could post here.
Also,
are all the X century quatrains in relation to the 21st?
Thanks.
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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| Title: Re: King of Mongols, Rise of China? |
31 Mar 2005 12:32:00 PM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, scribed:
First of all I suggest you study more Asian history. 'Ghengis Khan' is
NOT Chinese. He (and his sons, grandsons) conquered China, and ruled
China for over 200 yrs. Finally they were kicked out of China by Ming
dynasty.
I've been trying for 15 years to educate people to that fact,
but STILL fools come here and claim Mongols = China.
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The truth is out there,
but it's not interesting enough for most people.
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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31 Mar 2005 09:58:30 AM |
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Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "BL" <Bytelad@gmail.com> scribed:
Sept 11th, Bin Laden aka King of Terror,
Nostradamus never wrote "king of terror"...
now China, rise of the Mongols,
He ALSO never wrote "mongols", not to mention that China was NOT founded by the Mongols.
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The truth is out there,
but it's not interesting enough for most people.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: King of Mongols, Rise of China? |
31 Mar 2005 04:55:07 PM |
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Well the quatrain of which you speak is about a single man's life in
power, who came to power in 1999, from the skies he is a Moghul, and he
is the Bradman of Battle but like Alexander and the Gordian Knot he has
a specific destiny in that he ends the World debt thingie read western
economy and then proceeds to have a stunning set of victories on his
western adversaries, but first Mr Bin Laden in the hidden corner coming
to western Europe, full of spite and retribution.
LB
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