http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
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28 Dec 2003 11:14:47 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:dd3256f0.0312281822.5098fa4b@posting.google.com...
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
WOW McDonald...that mad cow, even when dead, has much more travelling
experience tham your beloved pantyboy!
WH
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28 Dec 2003 08:37:46 PM |
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I812!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Seville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
All I want to do is WOMP WOMP!!!!!
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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28 Dec 2003 09:21:29 PM |
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Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body, a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate from the nerve ending connected to it from the
spine-brain.
It appears to me that they want to minimize the economical impact of the
tragedy. How many victims can really result from it compared to what it
would cost if the industry died all of a sudden, although this will
surely kill even more of it if this reassurance is proven false.
J.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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29 Dec 2003 01:10:23 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
from the nerve ending connected to it from the
spine-brain.
true, this is why the reports do not say 100% sure a person will not
get the disease.
It appears to me that they want to minimize the economical impact
$9 billion so far in lost contracts to U.S. beef industry as of right
now.
of the
tragedy. How many victims can really result from it compared to what it
would cost if the industry died all of a sudden,
Cattle was a big export for America and Canada and I think it will
affect America the most regardless of where the cow came from. Also, I
think that no one is too blame but stupidity. We will see in the stock
market come January how it will affect the economy.
although this will
surely kill even more of it if this reassurance is proven false.
J.
Well this is the scoop. Bush muct be honest with the public if he
wants to keep his credibility. Also, we do not know how many people it
has infected because the human form takes 10-20 years to incubate,
according to the reports from Englands research in the '90s.
As far as proteins are involved, we know less about this area in
biology than, let say, the human genome ( as you have pointed out).
I'm not sure that we know all the ways this ( Protein piece) prion can
travel or lodge in tissues.
I know it was sent to my state, but I consumed meat and dary products
after Dec. 9 ( not knowing the press release yet) of this year until
the report. Currently I'm staying away from all forms of cow that was
processed after Dec. 9, until a least a few months.
One thing bothers me is that this cow may have not been the first one
and that no one knew of other cows having this because they may have
been born and then killed for meat before the standard 4.5 - 5 years
cow incubation time elapsed.
Well that's as much as I know at the moment.
Thanks for the photo of the dictionary word...
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30 Dec 2003 11:28:41 PM |
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Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
from the nerve ending connected to it from the
spine-brain.
true, this is why the reports do not say 100% sure a person will not
get the disease.
It appears to me that they want to minimize the economical impact
$9 billion so far in lost contracts to U.S. beef industry as of right
now.
of the
tragedy. How many victims can really result from it compared to what it
would cost if the industry died all of a sudden,
Cattle was a big export for America and Canada and I think it will
affect America the most regardless of where the cow came from. Also, I
think that no one is too blame but stupidity. We will see in the stock
market come January how it will affect the economy.
Not even stupidity (unless you speak of the poractice that was in place
before the ban a few years back). It is the timing.
The cattle was infected before the ban against reprocessing their meat
into their feed.
although this will
surely kill even more of it if this reassurance is proven false.
J.
Well this is the scoop. Bush muct be honest with the public if he
wants to keep his credibility. Also, we do not know how many people it
has infected because the human form takes 10-20 years to incubate,
according to the reports from Englands research in the '90s.
Yes, 20 yeas<ars to prove, but logic dictates the affinity... It
shouldn't be based on stats... This would be like saying SIDA happens
only to the homosexuals and blood tainted, in the beginning od the
epidemy, despite the logic of a virus, because they knew then that these
cases were the ones linked.
As far as proteins are involved, we know less about this area in
biology than, let say, the human genome ( as you have pointed out).
I'm not sure that we know all the ways this ( Protein piece) prion can
travel or lodge in tissues.
But yes, neuro-degenerative sickness are difficult to appreciate.
I know it was sent to my state, but I consumed meat and dary products
after Dec. 9 ( not knowing the press release yet) of this year until
the report. Currently I'm staying away from all forms of cow that was
processed after Dec. 9, until a least a few months.
One thing bothers me is that this cow may have not been the first one
and that no one knew of other cows having this because they may have
been born and then killed for meat before the standard 4.5 - 5 years
cow incubation time elapsed.
Right. You doN'T hear that from the government.
Do you think that the caution in the wind stems from the fact that 10-20
years from now, the politicians of today won't have the same elections
to lose...?
J.
Well that's as much as I know at the moment.
Thanks for the photo of the dictionary word...
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30 Dec 2003 11:36:46 PM |
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Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
Of course this is short of saying the muscle contracts by the impulsion
of the neuron, If I mention adenosine, I should in fact speak of the
hydrolysis of the ATP (along with the calcium and Magnesium ions),
resulting in a contraction, i.e. the interaction between the actin and
Myosin in the muscle (by the stopping of the inhibitors of the
sarcoplasm) and it's subsequent relaxation of the muscle by the (ADP
replacement or something like that - I can look). It was too simplified
above. But to make a simple picture, to show this interaction, and how
it takes a minimum of nervous energy to interact, I used a simple
transistor in my (micro) teaching course, with a condensator, but that's
French, how do you say? ha yes, a capacitor, so as to show that the
reaction doesn't occur at all until there is enough electrical current
for it to happen. Anyway, you get the picture. All this just to say what
everyone knows, and which I should just have stuck to say to begin with,
simply that nerves go everywhere there are muscles.
No need to know how they work, just how they are imbricated in the
muslces in fact. And believe me, if there is a neurotoxin, in one end of
the nervous system, it will tend to propagate towards the rest,
according to the affinity it will have with nerve tissues (biological or
chemical neurotoxin - although with chemical there is much more chance
that it could run its course for some reason, if it is not too much of a
catalyst - but here we are talking biological, and something that even
survive the digestive process of the host!- no free game here). It
seems that the authorities are being totally irresponsible for political
reasons if you ask me. They take a chance IMO. But they'll be OK if
there are no victim despite that. This pathology in the host animal of
the food doesn't always give the sickness, although the sickness always
come from it. But to say the meat is safe because they take out the
spinal chord and brain, seems incredible to me.
J.
[snip]
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31 Dec 2003 05:13:45 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<OftIb.3373133$be.523390@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
Of course this is short of saying the muscle contracts by the impulsion
of the neuron, If I mention adenosine, I should in fact speak of the
hydrolysis of the ATP
Yep, the 'hydrolysis of the ATP ' is one of the wonders of a body in
nature.
Not sure that most here understand this process, but, anyway...
(along with the calcium and Magnesium ions),
resulting in a contraction, i.e. the interaction between the actin and
Myosin in the muscle (by the stopping of the inhibitors of the
sarcoplasm) and it's subsequent relaxation of the muscle by the (ADP
replacement or something like that - I can look). It was too simplified
above. But to make a simple picture, to show this interaction, and how
it takes a minimum of nervous energy to interact, I used a simple
transistor in my (micro) teaching course, with a condensator, but that's
French, how do you say? ha yes, a capacitor, so as to show that the
reaction doesn't occur at all until there is enough electrical current
for it to happen. Anyway, you get the picture. All this just to say what
everyone knows, and which I should just have stuck to say to begin with,
simply that nerves go everywhere there are muscles.
No need to know how they work, just how they are imbricated in the
muslces in fact. And believe me, if there is a neurotoxin, in one end of
the nervous system, it will tend to propagate towards the rest,
according to the affinity it will have with nerve tissues (biological or
chemical neurotoxin - although with chemical there is much more chance
that it could run its course for some reason, if it is not too much of a
catalyst - but here we are talking biological,
this is so logical.
and something that even
survive the digestive process of the host!- no free game here). It
seems that the authorities are being totally irresponsible for political
reasons if you ask me.
Agree.
They take a chance IMO. But they'll be OK if
there are no victim despite that. This pathology in the host animal of
the food doesn't always give the sickness, although the sickness always
come from it.
Yes, there must be many British who have the prion in them but it has
not, and may never, get them sick.
But to say the meat is safe because they take out the
spinal chord and brain, seems incredible to me.
That's why I made the comment.
Nice explanation, and Happy New Years to you Jean.
Michael
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31 Dec 2003 10:45:48 PM |
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Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<OftIb.3373133$be.523390@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
Of course this is short of saying the muscle contracts by the impulsion
of the neuron, If I mention adenosine, I should in fact speak of the
hydrolysis of the ATP
Yep, the 'hydrolysis of the ATP ' is one of the wonders of a body in
nature.
Not sure that most here understand this process, but, anyway...
(along with the calcium and Magnesium ions),
resulting in a contraction, i.e. the interaction between the actin and
Myosin in the muscle (by the stopping of the inhibitors of the
sarcoplasm) and it's subsequent relaxation of the muscle by the (ADP
replacement or something like that - I can look). It was too simplified
above. But to make a simple picture, to show this interaction, and how
it takes a minimum of nervous energy to interact, I used a simple
transistor in my (micro) teaching course, with a condensator, but that's
French, how do you say? ha yes, a capacitor, so as to show that the
reaction doesn't occur at all until there is enough electrical current
for it to happen. Anyway, you get the picture. All this just to say what
everyone knows, and which I should just have stuck to say to begin with,
simply that nerves go everywhere there are muscles.
No need to know how they work, just how they are imbricated in the
muslces in fact. And believe me, if there is a neurotoxin, in one end of
the nervous system, it will tend to propagate towards the rest,
according to the affinity it will have with nerve tissues (biological or
chemical neurotoxin - although with chemical there is much more chance
that it could run its course for some reason, if it is not too much of a
catalyst - but here we are talking biological,
this is so logical.
and something that even
survive the digestive process of the host!- no free game here). It
seems that the authorities are being totally irresponsible for political
reasons if you ask me.
Agree.
They take a chance IMO. But they'll be OK if
there are no victim despite that. This pathology in the host animal of
the food doesn't always give the sickness, although the sickness always
come from it.
Yes, there must be many British who have the prion in them but it has
not, and may never, get them sick.
But to say the meat is safe because they take out the
spinal chord and brain, seems incredible to me.
That's why I made the comment.
Nice explanation, and Happy New Years to you Jean.
Michael
To you too Michael.
J.
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01 Jan 2004 10:41:55 AM |
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I'm designing a 2004 'Mad *PINUP* Cow' calendar.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Seville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
All I want to do is WOMP WOMP!!!!!
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| User: "Gary Somai" |
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01 Jan 2004 01:03:21 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 04:45:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<OftIb.3373133$be.523390@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
Of course this is short of saying the muscle contracts by the impulsion
of the neuron, If I mention adenosine, I should in fact speak of the
hydrolysis of the ATP
Yep, the 'hydrolysis of the ATP ' is one of the wonders of a body in
nature.
Not sure that most here understand this process, but, anyway...
(along with the calcium and Magnesium ions),
resulting in a contraction, i.e. the interaction between the actin and
Myosin in the muscle (by the stopping of the inhibitors of the
sarcoplasm) and it's subsequent relaxation of the muscle by the (ADP
replacement or something like that - I can look). It was too simplified
above. But to make a simple picture, to show this interaction, and how
it takes a minimum of nervous energy to interact, I used a simple
transistor in my (micro) teaching course, with a condensator, but that's
French, how do you say? ha yes, a capacitor, so as to show that the
reaction doesn't occur at all until there is enough electrical current
for it to happen. Anyway, you get the picture. All this just to say what
everyone knows, and which I should just have stuck to say to begin with,
simply that nerves go everywhere there are muscles.
No need to know how they work, just how they are imbricated in the
muslces in fact. And believe me, if there is a neurotoxin, in one end of
the nervous system, it will tend to propagate towards the rest,
according to the affinity it will have with nerve tissues (biological or
chemical neurotoxin - although with chemical there is much more chance
that it could run its course for some reason, if it is not too much of a
catalyst - but here we are talking biological,
this is so logical.
and something that even
survive the digestive process of the host!- no free game here). It
seems that the authorities are being totally irresponsible for political
reasons if you ask me.
Agree.
They take a chance IMO. But they'll be OK if
there are no victim despite that. This pathology in the host animal of
the food doesn't always give the sickness, although the sickness always
come from it.
Yes, there must be many British who have the prion in them but it has
not, and may never, get them sick.
But to say the meat is safe because they take out the
spinal chord and brain, seems incredible to me.
That's why I made the comment.
Nice explanation, and Happy New Years to you Jean.
Michael
To you too Michael.
J.
Don't be fooled by the niceties Jean!
This Mikey bloke is simply trying to wrap you around his little
finger, so that he can use you as his scapegoat. That's the sort of
twisted individual that he is..
Gary S
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05 Jan 2004 06:02:57 AM |
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Gary Somai a écrit:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 04:45:48 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<OftIb.3373133$be.523390@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in this
case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held accountable
when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the whole thing is
automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous system runs all
over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the
adenosine triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
Of course this is short of saying the muscle contracts by the impulsion
of the neuron, If I mention adenosine, I should in fact speak of the
hydrolysis of the ATP
Yep, the 'hydrolysis of the ATP ' is one of the wonders of a body in
nature.
Not sure that most here understand this process, but, anyway...
(along with the calcium and Magnesium ions),
resulting in a contraction, i.e. the interaction between the actin and
Myosin in the muscle (by the stopping of the inhibitors of the
sarcoplasm) and it's subsequent relaxation of the muscle by the (ADP
replacement or something like that - I can look). It was too simplified
above. But to make a simple picture, to show this interaction, and how
it takes a minimum of nervous energy to interact, I used a simple
transistor in my (micro) teaching course, with a condensator, but that's
French, how do you say? ha yes, a capacitor, so as to show that the
reaction doesn't occur at all until there is enough electrical current
for it to happen. Anyway, you get the picture. All this just to say what
everyone knows, and which I should just have stuck to say to begin with,
simply that nerves go everywhere there are muscles.
No need to know how they work, just how they are imbricated in the
muslces in fact. And believe me, if there is a neurotoxin, in one end of
the nervous system, it will tend to propagate towards the rest,
according to the affinity it will have with nerve tissues (biological or
chemical neurotoxin - although with chemical there is much more chance
that it could run its course for some reason, if it is not too much of a
catalyst - but here we are talking biological,
this is so logical.
and something that even
survive the digestive process of the host!- no free game here). It
seems that the authorities are being totally irresponsible for political
reasons if you ask me.
Agree.
They take a chance IMO. But they'll be OK if
there are no victim despite that. This pathology in the host animal of
the food doesn't always give the sickness, although the sickness always
come from it.
Yes, there must be many British who have the prion in them but it has
not, and may never, get them sick.
But to say the meat is safe because they take out the
spinal chord and brain, seems incredible to me.
That's why I made the comment.
Nice explanation, and Happy New Years to you Jean.
Michael
To you too Michael.
J.
Don't be fooled by the niceties Jean!
This Mikey bloke is simply trying to wrap you around his little
finger, so that he can use you as his scapegoat. That's the sort of
twisted individual that he is..
Gary S
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G O L G O T H A
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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Well, he seems to have an opened mind. But I'll keep an opened eye... :-)
J.
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31 Dec 2003 12:13:10 AM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:<Z4NHb.3213207$be.497596@news.easynews.com>...
Michael Johnathan McDonald a écrit:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20031228/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow&printer=1
By EMILY GERSEMA, Associated Press Writer
Agriculture Department veterinarian, said investigators have
determined that some of the meat from the diseased dairy cow
slaughtered Dec. 9 in Washington state went to Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho,
Montana and Guam. Earlier, officials had said most of the meat went to
Washington and Oregon, with lesser amounts to California and Nevada,
for distribution to consumers.
I wonder if those who say it is not dangerous to consume the meat
because they likely (i.e. usually, they don't even know for sure in
this case) take out the brain and the spine etc., will be held
accountable when it is shown that when a brain is contaminated, the
whole thing is automatically contaminated, simply because the nervous
system runs all over the body,
That's what I figured. I do not think we know everything about this
prion yet.
a muscle wouldn't contract without the impulse to the adenosine
triphosphate
Correct, and this is how it travels.
Of course this is short of saying the muscle contracts by the impulsion
of the neuron, If I mention adenosine, I should in fact speak of the
hydrolysis of the ATP (along with the calcium and Magnesium ions),
resulting in a contraction, i.e. the interaction between the actin and
Myosin in the muscle (by the stopping of the inhibitors of the
sarcoplasm) and it's subsequent relaxation of the muscle by the (ADP
replacement or something like that - I can look).
ATP replacement I mean. The ATP takes the place opf the actin. If there
was no ATP the muscle would be in constant contraction.
But it still takes the Ca++ ions to lift the inhibition of the sacoplasm
(which will produice the hydrolysis and resynthesis of ATP), these are
located in the grana and difuse in the sarcoplasma ONLY when there is an
excitation. No excitation, and the action of the grana ceases.
This excitation is the neuron (bio-chemo-electronical) action. Nooi
neuron, no action, this was my point.
Should never have mentioned the molecular biology process ATP, just the
physioological process with the neurons would have sufficed, I was bound
to correct myself from then on. But it made an interesting, if
transient, aparté. :-)
J.
It was too simplified
above. But to make a simple picture, to show this interaction, and how
it takes a minimum of nervous energy to interact, I used a simple
transistor in my (micro) teaching course, with a condensator, but that's
French, how do you say? ha yes, a capacitor, so as to show that the
reaction doesn't occur at all until there is enough electrical current
for it to happen. Anyway, you get the picture. All this just to say what
everyone knows, and which I should just have stuck to say to begin with,
simply that nerves go everywhere there are muscles.
No need to know how they work, just how they are imbricated in the
muslces in fact. And believe me, if there is a neurotoxin, in one end of
the nervous system, it will tend to propagate towards the rest,
according to the affinity it will have with nerve tissues (biological or
chemical neurotoxin - although with chemical there is much more chance
that it could run its course for some reason, if it is not too much of a
catalyst - but here we are talking biological, and something that even
survive the digestive process of the host!- no free game here). It
seems that the authorities are being totally irresponsible for political
reasons if you ask me. They take a chance IMO. But they'll be OK if
there are no victim despite that. This pathology in the host animal of
the food doesn't always give the sickness, although the sickness always
come from it. But to say the meat is safe because they take out the
spinal chord and brain, seems incredible to me.
J.
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Well, then I'm switching to Chicken and Bison.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Seville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
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http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
All I want to do is WOMP WOMP!!!!!
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