Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast
By Del Quentin Wilber and Nia-Malika Henderson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, September 29, 2005; Page B05
Olive Taylor first noticed the odor Tuesday night outside her Northeast
Washington home. By yesterday morning, the smell had turned into a stench
so bad that it woke her up.
"It was so unlike anything that should have been in my home," said Taylor,
71. "It wasn't really a gas smell. My son said it was a propane smell, but
a neighbor said it didn't smell like propane. Maybe it was kind of gassy.
It was in fact giving me a headache."
Scores of people in the District called authorities yesterday to complain
that a similar odor was invading homes, businesses, a dozen schools and
two police stations. Many mistakenly thought the trouble was a natural gas
leak, and at least two schools were evacuated for a time.
Firefighters and work crews shuttled from place to place during the day
and tested air to find the cause of the odor. The number of complaints
tailed off as the afternoon wore on, but the cause of the smell remained a
mystery last night.
Most of the complaints came from Northeast Washington, where the odor
seemed to come and go for no discernible reason. There was no consensus on
what it smelled like, only that it was nasty.
Some top fire officials initially worried about a major gas line rupture
or equipment failure. They settled on two less-menacing potential
culprits: a clogged sewer line in Prince George's County or extra-smelly
city storm drains. Officials said the storm drains may not have been
properly flushed out by rainwater in the recent dry spell.
Alan Etter, a D.C. fire department spokesman, said the stench apparently
traveled through the sewer pipe or storm drains -- "or a combination of
both" -- and became concentrated in poorly ventilated buildings. In other
words, the smell was most noticeable in D.C. public schools and two
District police stations. "There's not good ventilation in the older
buildings, and you have lots of people to notice it," Etter said.
Not everyone agreed with the fire department's theories. Officials at the
Washington Suburban Sanitary Commission said their sewer pipe was not
responsible.
Lydia Wilson, a commission spokeswoman, confirmed that work crews were
repairing a large section of 75-year-old pipe that was found crushed
underground in Capitol Heights, near the D.C. line. But she said the
workers believed that the broken pipe had "nothing to do" with the stench.
"We have no idea what caused the smell," Wilson said.
Washington Gas received more than 150 calls about possible gas leaks,
officials said.
D.C. Battalion Chief Brian Lee was in his office yesterday morning when
his fire department radio began barking: Gas leak at Smothers Elementary
School. Gas leak at the 6th District Police Station. Gas leak at Orr
Elementary School. Gas leak at a Safeway supermarket.
Firefighters responded to more than 35 calls for gas leaks within 12
hours. The vast majority were unfounded, Lee said.
"We usually get several calls like that a day, but not 30," Lee said.
Keturah Anderson, a 16-year-old 12th-grader at Spingarn Senior High
School, in the 2500 block of Benning Road NE, said she noticed the odor
yesterday morning while on her way to homeroom. "In the hallways, you
could smell gas throughout the school; it was strong," she said.
Spingarn Principal Reginald Burke evacuated the school and called the fire
department. Firefighters found nothing hazardous in the air. Students
returned to classes after about 30 minutes.
Seven miles away, people were talking about their experience at Curtis
Chevrolet, in the 59oo block of Georgia Avenue NW. Switchboard operator
De-Borah Kidd was forced to stand at the door to get fresh air.
"It smelled like skunk, rotten eggs and sulfur," she said, adding that her
description might not have done the odor justice.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/28/AR2005092802417.html
It's those damn demons in the White House and Congress!!! Read this
excerpt --
There was a long, black hallway down there. It was lit with glowing red
lights. The hallway was littered with bones. They took Craig down the
seemingly endless hallway, which sloped downwards at a slight angle, until
they reached a green door. The smell became progressively worse. One of
the shadow men opened the door. A horrible smell of sulphur and rotten
eggs wafted from the room. The room was the same rotten, green color as
the door. They took Craig into the room. Red hooks on rusted chains and
rusted metal crosses appended from the high ceiling. There was a rusted,
dull Roman short sword on the floor in the center of the room on a
pentagram, which was burned into the wood, floor boards. One of the shadow
men picked up the ancient sword. It began to saw Craig's head off with it
slowly. The shadow men all chanted verses from the Book of Satan as Craig
bled and screamed a high-pitched, terrified sound. Craig died in agony and
horror about minute after they started sawing his head off with the
ancient sword, which had been in use the day Christ died. The shadow men
hung Craig's corpse on a metal cross. They left him there.
The sign on the Old Scenic Route 66, directing people to Damon's
Roadhouse, vanished into nothing. Then, the roadhouse disappeared
completely. The demons running the roadhouse began waiting again for next
insane unknown, with a dark past to drift by. Sometimes, even in recent
history, they had to wait over a decade between victims. They were
patient. They had been here in different versions before the original
Route 66 was here. They had been here in different versions before the
wagon trains rolled westward. They knew there would be another victim
coming. The roadhouse wasn't ready to close for the last time just yet.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:BknqN6JxJXgJ:www.demonminds.com/tales/the_shadow_men.html+sulphur+rotten+eggs+demons&hl=en
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30 Sep 2005 03:44:48 PM |
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So, they do not have, gas samplers?
Sounds too easy.
LB
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29 Sep 2005 10:03:09 PM |
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Welcome to the world of Covert Operations (ie: CIA) using the 'unknowing public' to test their
latest Biological Weaponry !!!
If its any consultation, the people of Northeast Washington are not the first (nor the last)
of these experiments.This type of Weaponry testing dates back to the 50s. }:-| )
But, You Didn't Here This From Me !!!
:-(]
"Doc" wrote in message
Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast
By Del Quentin Wilber and Nia-Malika Henderson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, September 29, 2005; Page B05
Olive Taylor first noticed the odor Tuesday night outside her Northeast
Washington home. By yesterday morning, the smell had turned into a stench
so bad that it woke her up.
"It was so unlike anything that should have been in my home," said Taylor,
71. "It wasn't really a gas smell. My son said it was a propane smell, but
a neighbor said it didn't smell like propane. Maybe it was kind of gassy.
It was in fact giving me a headache."
Scores of people in the District called authorities yesterday to complain
that a similar odor was invading homes, businesses, a dozen schools and
two police stations. Many mistakenly thought the trouble was a natural gas
leak, and at least two schools were evacuated for a time.
Firefighters and work crews shuttled from place to place during the day
and tested air to find the cause of the odor. The number of complaints
tailed off as the afternoon wore on, but the cause of the smell remained a
mystery last night.
Most of the complaints came from Northeast Washington, where the odor
seemed to come and go for no discernible reason. There was no consensus on
what it smelled like, only that it was nasty.
Some top fire officials initially worried about a major gas line rupture
or equipment failure. They settled on two less-menacing potential
culprits: a clogged sewer line in Prince George's County or extra-smelly
city storm drains. Officials said the storm drains may not have been
properly flushed out by rainwater in the recent dry spell.
Alan Etter, a D.C. fire department spokesman, said the stench apparently
traveled through the sewer pipe or storm drains -- "or a combination of
both" -- and became concentrated in poorly ventilated buildings. In other
words, the smell was most noticeable in D.C. public schools and two
District police stations. "There's not good ventilation in the older
buildings, and you have lots of people to notice it," Etter said.
Not everyone agreed with the fire department's theories. Officials at the
Washington Suburban Sanitary Commission said their sewer pipe was not
responsible.
Lydia Wilson, a commission spokeswoman, confirmed that work crews were
repairing a large section of 75-year-old pipe that was found crushed
underground in Capitol Heights, near the D.C. line. But she said the
workers believed that the broken pipe had "nothing to do" with the stench.
"We have no idea what caused the smell," Wilson said.
Washington Gas received more than 150 calls about possible gas leaks,
officials said.
D.C. Battalion Chief Brian Lee was in his office yesterday morning when
his fire department radio began barking: Gas leak at Smothers Elementary
School. Gas leak at the 6th District Police Station. Gas leak at Orr
Elementary School. Gas leak at a Safeway supermarket.
Firefighters responded to more than 35 calls for gas leaks within 12
hours. The vast majority were unfounded, Lee said.
"We usually get several calls like that a day, but not 30," Lee said.
Keturah Anderson, a 16-year-old 12th-grader at Spingarn Senior High
School, in the 2500 block of Benning Road NE, said she noticed the odor
yesterday morning while on her way to homeroom. "In the hallways, you
could smell gas throughout the school; it was strong," she said.
Spingarn Principal Reginald Burke evacuated the school and called the fire
department. Firefighters found nothing hazardous in the air. Students
returned to classes after about 30 minutes.
Seven miles away, people were talking about their experience at Curtis
Chevrolet, in the 59oo block of Georgia Avenue NW. Switchboard operator
De-Borah Kidd was forced to stand at the door to get fresh air.
"It smelled like skunk, rotten eggs and sulfur," she said, adding that her
description might not have done the odor justice.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/28/AR2005092802417.html
It's those damn demons in the White House and Congress!!! Read this
excerpt --
There was a long, black hallway down there. It was lit with glowing red
lights. The hallway was littered with bones. They took Craig down the
seemingly endless hallway, which sloped downwards at a slight angle, until
they reached a green door. The smell became progressively worse. One of
the shadow men opened the door. A horrible smell of sulphur and rotten
eggs wafted from the room. The room was the same rotten, green color as
the door. They took Craig into the room. Red hooks on rusted chains and
rusted metal crosses appended from the high ceiling. There was a rusted,
dull Roman short sword on the floor in the center of the room on a
pentagram, which was burned into the wood, floor boards. One of the shadow
men picked up the ancient sword. It began to saw Craig's head off with it
slowly. The shadow men all chanted verses from the Book of Satan as Craig
bled and screamed a high-pitched, terrified sound. Craig died in agony and
horror about minute after they started sawing his head off with the
ancient sword, which had been in use the day Christ died. The shadow men
hung Craig's corpse on a metal cross. They left him there.
The sign on the Old Scenic Route 66, directing people to Damon's
Roadhouse, vanished into nothing. Then, the roadhouse disappeared
completely. The demons running the roadhouse began waiting again for next
insane unknown, with a dark past to drift by. Sometimes, even in recent
history, they had to wait over a decade between victims. They were
patient. They had been here in different versions before the original
Route 66 was here. They had been here in different versions before the
wagon trains rolled westward. They knew there would be another victim
coming. The roadhouse wasn't ready to close for the last time just yet.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:BknqN6JxJXgJ:www.demonminds.com/tales/the_shadow_men.html+sulphur+rotten+eggs+demons&hl=en
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30 Sep 2005 12:54:30 AM |
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yOUR JUST kidding, right ?!?!??!?!
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY ;-)
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30 Sep 2005 12:55:30 PM |
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"Uncle Wally 's nice 'n' comfy cozy HOOROO corner cabin ;-)T"
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1128059670.006086.258690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
yOUR JUST kidding, right ?!?!??!?!
Sadly, I don't think he is.
Jane
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY ;-)
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30 Sep 2005 02:07:26 AM |
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I wish I could say that this a 'Skeptic's Fantasy'. Unfortunately "It is JUST tooTRUE to be
ignored."
Even here in Canada, there has been recent TESTings of Biological Weaponry upon the
'un-suspecting public' that has 'exceeded' our own Constitutional Rights. Southern Ontario has
been subjected to un-explainable Chemical Attacks (with totally 'deniable plausibility') over
the past 5 years that leaves many people wondering "Are We The Modern Era 'Ginny-Pigs' ???"
There has been too many 'incedents' to elaborate on here (but if you want, I can 'list' the
ones that I know about).
But, what was STARTED back in the 50s is still prevalent Today !!!
:-(]
"Uncle Wally 's nice 'n' comfy cozy HOOROO corner cabin ;-)T" wrote in message
yOUR JUST kidding, right ?!?!??!?!
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY ;-)
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| User: "Jane" |
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30 Sep 2005 12:55:04 PM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:ut5%e.7776$cq2.971715@news20.bellglobal.com...
I wish I could say that this a 'Skeptic's Fantasy'. Unfortunately "It is
JUST tooTRUE to be
ignored."
Even here in Canada, there has been recent TESTings of Biological Weaponry
upon the
'un-suspecting public' that has 'exceeded' our own Constitutional Rights.
Southern Ontario has
been subjected to un-explainable Chemical Attacks (with totally 'deniable
plausibility') over
the past 5 years that leaves many people wondering "Are We The Modern Era
'Ginny-Pigs' ???"
Cite? Oh, by the way, it's "Guinea" pigs!
There has been too many 'incedents' to elaborate on here (but if you want,
I can 'list' the
ones that I know about).
Please do list the "incedents" (sic).
Jane
But, what was STARTED back in the 50s is still prevalent Today !!!
:-(]
"Uncle Wally 's nice 'n' comfy cozy HOOROO corner cabin ;-)T" wrote in
message
yOUR JUST kidding, right ?!?!??!?!
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY ;-)
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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30 Sep 2005 10:42:29 PM |
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Now that I have thought about it, the original POSTED problem is probably more to do with a
(yet to be discovered) "Meth." lab.
But, as for Canada's own problems, I will assume the you(Jane) are from this region of Canada
(please correct me if I am wrong).
- The TESTing of which I am referring to is the many (and I do mean many) instances of where a
'localized' group (usually shopping malls - but never at the same location twice) experience
an 'attack' of nausea and vomiting. This was a very common situation around the Southern
Ontario (Canada) region from between 2000 to 2003.
Most occurrences where mentioned on the local news, and then (as soon as it was mentioned) the
news story would 'vapourize' much like the 'attack' (and never be mentioned again) !!! This
would tell me that either; Terrorist have been doing testing in these locations and CICS was
covering it up (maybe to prevent fear) OR CICS was 'fully aware' of these situations and just
plain "covering it up".
Just My Thoughts (and probably the last ones here after this post)
:-(]
"Jane" wrote in message
Please do list the "incedents" (sic).
Jane
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01 Oct 2005 07:25:26 AM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:izn%e.8705$cq2.1129802@news20.bellglobal.com...
Now that I have thought about it, the original POSTED problem is probably
more to do with a
(yet to be discovered) "Meth." lab.
But, as for Canada's own problems, I will assume the you(Jane) are from
this region of Canada
(please correct me if I am wrong).
From near Toronto yes...thankfully, out in the boonies.
- The TESTing of which I am referring to is the many (and I do mean many)
instances of where a
'localized' group (usually shopping malls - but never at the same location
twice) experience
an 'attack' of nausea and vomiting. This was a very common situation
around the Southern
Ontario (Canada) region from between 2000 to 2003.
Never heard of even one case. The only cases I recall are accidental
salmonella poisoning from food at a banquet. There have been a couple of
them.
Most occurrences where mentioned on the local news, and then (as soon as
it was mentioned) the
news story would 'vapourize' much like the 'attack' (and never be
mentioned again) !!! This
would tell me that either; Terrorist have been doing testing in these
locations and CICS was
covering it up (maybe to prevent fear) OR CICS was 'fully aware' of these
situations and just
plain "covering it up".
Or maybe it is a figment of an over-active imagination!
Just My Thoughts (and probably the last ones here after this post)
Hopefully not! I like having you around to disagree with, :)!
Jane
:-(]
"Jane" wrote in message
Please do list the "incedents" (sic).
Jane
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"Jane" replied
Most occurrences where mentioned on the local news, and then (as soon as
it was mentioned) the
news story would 'vapourize' much like the 'attack' (and never be
mentioned again) !!! This
would tell me that either; Terrorist have been doing testing in these
locations and CICS was
covering it up (maybe to prevent fear) OR CICS was 'fully aware' of these
situations and just
plain "covering it up".
Or maybe it is a figment of an over-active imagination!
Jane
OR, Maybe its a REALLY GOOD cover-up !!! (the people that experienced it would sure agree
with me that it was real.)
:-(]
PS: Yes I do know the locations, and NO I will not list them here.
But, I will say that almost everyone of them had the same scenario. [The 'mass' effect was
almost immediate, and then an trace of the cause 'vapourized' almost as quickly.] }:-(]
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02 Oct 2005 07:31:30 AM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:7sG%e.9190$cq2.1288602@news20.bellglobal.com...
"Jane" replied
Most occurrences where mentioned on the local news, and then (as soon
as
it was mentioned) the
news story would 'vapourize' much like the 'attack' (and never be
mentioned again) !!! This
would tell me that either; Terrorist have been doing testing in these
locations and CICS was
covering it up (maybe to prevent fear) OR CICS was 'fully aware' of
these
situations and just
plain "covering it up".
Or maybe it is a figment of an over-active imagination!
Jane
OR, Maybe its a REALLY GOOD cover-up !!! (the people that experienced it
would sure agree
with me that it was real.)
:-(]
PS: Yes I do know the locations, and NO I will not list them here.
But you said you would, if anyone requested them!
BTW, who is Tony??? (And, no, it is not Steven Douglas)
Jane
But, I will say that almost everyone of them had the same scenario. [The
'mass' effect was
almost immediate, and then an trace of the cause 'vapourized' almost as
quickly.] }:-(]
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02 Oct 2005 10:46:09 PM |
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Isn't it interesting how a 'similar' situation in a Toronto hospital seems to have occurred
shortly after this post got started ???
:-()
As for Tony - just look for the APN person that still keeps posting against "werewolfy" from
time to time (usually ranting on about the same old 'fight' topic).
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03 Oct 2005 06:44:55 AM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:FO10f.947$2F2.185688@news20.bellglobal.com...
Isn't it interesting how a 'similar' situation in a Toronto hospital seems
to have occurred
shortly after this post got started ???
A viral respiratory illness in a nursing home...what an odd thing; it's just
got to be planted for nefarious reasons! (Sheesh!)
:-()
As for Tony - just look for the APN person that still keeps posting
against "werewolfy" from
time to time (usually ranting on about the same old 'fight' topic).
Don't know who you're talking about! I've seen dreamwalker and eric arguing
with Werewolfy; neither of them are Tony, I can assure you.
Jane
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04 Oct 2005 05:43:43 AM |
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"Don't know who you're talking about! I've seen dreamwalker and eric
arguing
with Werewolfy; neither of them are Tony, I can assure you."
Jane
I wondered what TOG was on about too Jane. But I didn't queery
it...because I would know that thick-necked Wop anywhere.
Eric has his moments against my posts, but that's old business, Dreamy
too.
No, Z isn't about. I wonder at the similarity between this, and last
year. At holiday time he 'vanished' for three months, perhaps it will
be a repeat performance?
That brings into question the reason as to why. Might be interesting to
know.
Hey...I'm suprised that no-one has yet suggested that I
am...responsible...for his absence. After all, he told this forum that
I was buried in cement in New Jersey last year....;)
In case anyone has forgotten the basic reason for such hatred on my
part for the creature..well, remember the incitement to Dani to kill
herself with pills? He chose a bad time. My daughter was on the verge
of death having taken a massive overdose of tablets following an
abortion and the loss of her boy-friend. After spending days with her
in intensive care, watching...Seeing a post like that incensed me, and
still does.
No one who claims any sort of humanity would incite a girl to kill
herself. That is the action of the worst kind of creature.
He can rot somewhere and I would laugh merrily at justice triumphing
over a truly evil mind.
Ricky
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04 Oct 2005 06:49:06 AM |
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"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1128422623.856166.54190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
"Don't know who you're talking about! I've seen dreamwalker and eric
arguing
with Werewolfy; neither of them are Tony, I can assure you."
Jane
I wondered what TOG was on about too Jane. But I didn't queery
it...because I would know that thick-necked Wop anywhere.
Eric has his moments against my posts, but that's old business, Dreamy
too.
TOG is basically a good guy, but he gets carried away with his paranoia. He
thought Steven Douglas was Tony because of his New Jersey accent (!)
No, Z isn't about. I wonder at the similarity between this, and last
year. At holiday time he 'vanished' for three months, perhaps it will
be a repeat performance?
That brings into question the reason as to why. Might be interesting to
know.
Hey...I'm suprised that no-one has yet suggested that I
am...responsible...for his absence. After all, he told this forum that
I was buried in cement in New Jersey last year....;)
In case anyone has forgotten the basic reason for such hatred on my
part for the creature..well, remember the incitement to Dani to kill
herself with pills? He chose a bad time. My daughter was on the verge
of death having taken a massive overdose of tablets following an
abortion and the loss of her boy-friend. After spending days with her
in intensive care, watching...Seeing a post like that incensed me, and
still does.
Perfectly understandable. As I recall, your daughter's name is also
Danielle...I hope she is doing better. What a horrible thing to go through!
Jane
No one who claims any sort of humanity would incite a girl to kill
herself. That is the action of the worst kind of creature.
He can rot somewhere and I would laugh merrily at justice triumphing
over a truly evil mind.
Ricky
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04 Oct 2005 10:22:43 PM |
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"Nah, Whats Up DOC !!!"
:-)
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04 Oct 2005 10:24:11 PM |
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I could be wrong though.
:-(]
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05 Oct 2005 09:15:41 AM |
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"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:_FH0f.4509$2F2.594752@news20.bellglobal.com...
I could be wrong though.
Oh, I'm afraid you are! No way Doc is Tony. He has a long history here,
too.
Jane
:-(]
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05 Oct 2005 05:04:05 AM |
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TOG thought;-
"I could be wrong though."
Yep..wrong Tog.
Z is vitriolic and unstable. He is easily known. Doc holds ideas,
writes and posts in a different manner completely.
Werewolfy
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05 Oct 2005 06:01:01 AM |
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Jane wrote;
"As I recall, your daughter's name is also Danielle...I hope she is
doing better."
Thanks Jane. That was a nice sentiment to express. It's been a hard
year, and a lot of effort. One step forward, two steps back....but the
care continues.
The saga is long and...not much fun. Things are now even more
complicated..she has a baby of 9 weeks.
She became pregnant again on purpose...the abortion 'turned' her mind
more than anyone can realise.
Even though she is excellent as a mother, the social services have
placed the baby under their control due to Danielle's history. That's
like a second abortion..but worse.
Anyway, even though I am completely against the idea, I have applied
for full adoptive custody of the child, in order that mother and child
can be together again.
It's better than the alternative..which is too final.
I'll have to live with it. Too old really to want a baby about, but
that has to be the way of it if Danielle is to have a chance in life.
Joy's of parenthood Jane! No matter how old they are, they always
remain a worry and a top priority, regardless of ones own needs.
Ah well....Time will (hopefully) heal all things. Thanks for asking and
for your sentiment.
You are nice...;) Ricky
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast |
05 Oct 2005 09:22:50 AM |
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"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1128507899.199394.191650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Jane wrote;
"As I recall, your daughter's name is also Danielle...I hope she is
doing better."
Thanks Jane. That was a nice sentiment to express. It's been a hard
year, and a lot of effort. One step forward, two steps back....but the
care continues.
The saga is long and...not much fun. Things are now even more
complicated..she has a baby of 9 weeks.
She became pregnant again on purpose...the abortion 'turned' her mind
more than anyone can realise.
Even though she is excellent as a mother, the social services have
placed the baby under their control due to Danielle's history. That's
like a second abortion..but worse.
Anyway, even though I am completely against the idea, I have applied
for full adoptive custody of the child, in order that mother and child
can be together again.
It's better than the alternative..which is too final.
I'll have to live with it. Too old really to want a baby about, but
that has to be the way of it if Danielle is to have a chance in life.
Joy's of parenthood Jane! No matter how old they are, they always
remain a worry and a top priority, regardless of ones own needs.
Ah well....Time will (hopefully) heal all things. Thanks for asking and
for your sentiment.
You are nice...;) Ricky
How is she doing emotionally? I went through post-partum depression and it
was a living hell. I was hospitalized for two weeks, which was great,
because I was incredibly sleep-deprived! All new mothers are, but I was
back to work and my husband and I worked opposite shifts. When I was on 6
pm to 2:30 am and my baby was up at 6:30 every morning, I just fell apart.
I had obsessive thoughts of hurting the baby. I'd try to push them out of
my head, but they kept returning. (I was diagnosed with OCD, which I'll
probably always have in a mild form.) My only personal experience with
mental illness and I hope I never face it again...
Anyway, it is wonderful that you are willing to adopt the baby! Let me know
how it goes! (You can send an e-mail off group, just tell me, as I don't
check the hotmail account very often).
Jane
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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| Title: Re: Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast |
05 Oct 2005 06:10:22 PM |
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Jane asked
"How is she doing emotionally?"
That's a hard one to answer. Most of the time she is fine. It's so easy
for her to slip into depression of the worst kind though.
It's a question of keeping her facing in the right direction really,
and that special father/daughter relationship with all of the natural
desire to protect is the thing that would never allow me to abandon
her..no matter what.
The age doesn't help Jane. I can't say I was too Saintly when I was 18
either!
Time and patience is the only answer, but she is still
suicidal..genuine, not just a cry for help, so non-intrusive
surveillance from me and guidance is about the best way of overcoming
this.
It gets worse....The father of the baby is the only son of a high
ranking Doctor, who will do anything to protect the boy. So, I'm
fighting ' The System' really. It's now a conspiracy between the
medical staff and the Social Services (He has many friends there) in an
effort to 'get rid' of any problem for his son.
Ah well, they have chosen badly by their actions...I'm not one to be
over-awed by Authority..;)
They all make mistakes, and I 'have' the Doctor on two counts of
discreditable conduct for the Medical association. Both refer to his
interference with Danielle's documents. I even have a nice serious
assault charge against him. In a rage he decided to chuck a few
punches. I let him do it (God that was the hard bit...just letting him
do it) without any resistance...with plenty of witnesses around.
So...I'll 'get there' in the end (hopefully) and all should work out
over the years. I've found the best advocate in the Region and
dispensed with the State one provided. She was useless.
It's the injustice that angers Jane. That and my worries for Danielle.
So, It's a question of doing all things right and adopting...which is
no real problem. If they require a thing, I'll comply and get
it..whatever it takes.
All of this and I don't really adore small babies...the opposite in
fact. Jude (my wife) is excellent though, and together we intend to not
only succeed, but to destroy that damned doctor who was the instigator
of all of this for his own selfish benefit.
Enough of my troubles...Hell, sorry about the OCD Jane. Yes, I know a
few things about that, and the way it can take over.
It's suprising how many mothers of babies have that compulsion..it's
fairly common and really, it will all pass. Well, it should, it
normally does.
I'll keep you up-dated on how the Official side of all this
progresses..It should work out...I'm not used to losing..;)
Thanks again for being nice.... Ricky
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast |
05 Oct 2005 07:11:11 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1128553822.220103.117860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane asked
"How is she doing emotionally?"
That's a hard one to answer. Most of the time she is fine. It's so easy
for her to slip into depression of the worst kind though.
It's a question of keeping her facing in the right direction really,
and that special father/daughter relationship with all of the natural
desire to protect is the thing that would never allow me to abandon
her..no matter what.
The age doesn't help Jane. I can't say I was too Saintly when I was 18
either!
Time and patience is the only answer, but she is still
suicidal..genuine, not just a cry for help, so non-intrusive
surveillance from me and guidance is about the best way of overcoming
this.
It gets worse....The father of the baby is the only son of a high
ranking Doctor, who will do anything to protect the boy. So, I'm
fighting ' The System' really. It's now a conspiracy between the
medical staff and the Social Services (He has many friends there) in an
effort to 'get rid' of any problem for his son.
Ah well, they have chosen badly by their actions...I'm not one to be
over-awed by Authority..;)
They all make mistakes, and I 'have' the Doctor on two counts of
discreditable conduct for the Medical association. Both refer to his
interference with Danielle's documents. I even have a nice serious
assault charge against him. In a rage he decided to chuck a few
punches. I let him do it (God that was the hard bit...just letting him
do it) without any resistance...with plenty of witnesses around.
So...I'll 'get there' in the end (hopefully) and all should work out
over the years. I've found the best advocate in the Region and
dispensed with the State one provided. She was useless.
It's the injustice that angers Jane. That and my worries for Danielle.
So, It's a question of doing all things right and adopting...which is
no real problem. If they require a thing, I'll comply and get
it..whatever it takes.
All of this and I don't really adore small babies...the opposite in
fact. Jude (my wife) is excellent though, and together we intend to not
only succeed, but to destroy that damned doctor who was the instigator
of all of this for his own selfish benefit.
Best of luck with all of that.
Enough of my troubles...Hell, sorry about the OCD Jane. Yes, I know a
few things about that, and the way it can take over.
It's suprising how many mothers of babies have that compulsion..it's
fairly common and really, it will all pass. Well, it should, it
normally does.
Oh, it passed long ago (my son is 13), but it was hell at the time. I can
only imagine for one who already has problems. I'll always be a little
obsessive, tho'.
I'll keep you up-dated on how the Official side of all this
progresses..It should work out...I'm not used to losing..;)
Thanks again for being nice.... Ricky
I always try to be nice (don't always succeed, :) )
Jane
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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| Title: Re: Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast |
06 Oct 2005 03:51:37 AM |
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If you would like:
I could attempt to 'focus' 'the collective" of the After Life in her direction.
I can't promise anything (after all, I doubt you believe in this 'Mumbo Jumbo", let alone your
assume your own daughter could.)
But, I can promise you one thing, if you can direct me to where she lives, I can (through the
'Past Live') "Scare Her, to become Straight". [After that, she will be on her own (and will
need the 'full' support of her family) to remain clean.]
This I can try to do, only because the 'Past Life' deems her as a 'potential' sole worth
saving (based on YOUR Effort To Try !!!)
:-(]
If I can bring my mother back from the 'brink' of Terminal Cancer, then I can atleast
(Attempt) to do the same for others.
"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1128553822.220103.117860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jane asked
"How is she doing emotionally?"
That's a hard one to answer. Most of the time she is fine. It's so easy
for her to slip into depression of the worst kind though.
It's a question of keeping her facing in the right direction really,
and that special father/daughter relationship with all of the natural
desire to protect is the thing that would never allow me to abandon
her..no matter what.
The age doesn't help Jane. I can't say I was too Saintly when I was 18
either!
Time and patience is the only answer, but she is still
suicidal..genuine, not just a cry for help, so non-intrusive
surveillance from me and guidance is about the best way of overcoming
this.
It gets worse....The father of the baby is the only son of a high
ranking Doctor, who will do anything to protect the boy. So, I'm
fighting ' The System' really. It's now a conspiracy between the
medical staff and the Social Services (He has many friends there) in an
effort to 'get rid' of any problem for his son.
Ah well, they have chosen badly by their actions...I'm not one to be
over-awed by Authority..;)
They all make mistakes, and I 'have' the Doctor on two counts of
discreditable conduct for the Medical association. Both refer to his
interference with Danielle's documents. I even have a nice serious
assault charge against him. In a rage he decided to chuck a few
punches. I let him do it (God that was the hard bit...just letting him
do it) without any resistance...with plenty of witnesses around.
So...I'll 'get there' in the end (hopefully) and all should work out
over the years. I've found the best advocate in the Region and
dispensed with the State one provided. She was useless.
It's the injustice that angers Jane. That and my worries for Danielle.
So, It's a question of doing all things right and adopting...which is
no real problem. If they require a thing, I'll comply and get
it..whatever it takes.
All of this and I don't really adore small babies...the opposite in
fact. Jude (my wife) is excellent though, and together we intend to not
only succeed, but to destroy that damned doctor who was the instigator
of all of this for his own selfish benefit.
Enough of my troubles...Hell, sorry about the OCD Jane. Yes, I know a
few things about that, and the way it can take over.
It's suprising how many mothers of babies have that compulsion..it's
fairly common and really, it will all pass. Well, it should, it
normally does.
I'll keep you up-dated on how the Official side of all this
progresses..It should work out...I'm not used to losing..;)
Thanks again for being nice.... Ricky
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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| Title: Re: Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast |
06 Oct 2005 04:10:37 AM |
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I will need her name and locale ??? (otherwise it will be USELESS to attempt.)
:-(]
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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06 Oct 2005 04:15:16 AM |
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And, I will need it within 24 hrs, OR, I will assume that you don't care, (and Focus My
Energies) elsewhere.
:-(]
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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01 Oct 2005 12:25:09 AM |
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Smoke screen...
Magnesium (as replacement of lead) in gasoline, massive amounts of fluoride
in drinking water, chemical soups of all sort in food... are all experiments
conducted routinely on the masses by corporations with full knowledge,
backing, and support of our governments and law makers. We're just cattle...
Stat.
"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:izn%e.8705$cq2.1129802@news20.bellglobal.com...
Now that I have thought about it, the original POSTED problem is probably
more to do with a
(yet to be discovered) "Meth." lab.
But, as for Canada's own problems, I will assume the you(Jane) are from
this region of Canada
(please correct me if I am wrong).
- The TESTing of which I am referring to is the many (and I do mean many)
instances of where a
'localized' group (usually shopping malls - but never at the same location
twice) experience
an 'attack' of nausea and vomiting. This was a very common situation
around the Southern
Ontario (Canada) region from between 2000 to 2003.
Most occurrences where mentioned on the local news, and then (as soon as
it was mentioned) the
news story would 'vapourize' much like the 'attack' (and never be
mentioned again) !!! This
would tell me that either; Terrorist have been doing testing in these
locations and CICS was
covering it up (maybe to prevent fear) OR CICS was 'fully aware' of these
situations and just
plain "covering it up".
Just My Thoughts (and probably the last ones here after this post)
:-(]
"Jane" wrote in message
Please do list the "incedents" (sic).
Jane
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: Mysterious Stench Nauseates Northeast |
01 Oct 2005 07:27:21 AM |
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Y4p%e.3263$l03.654753@news20.bellglobal.com...
Smoke screen...
Magnesium (as replacement of lead) in gasoline, massive amounts of
fluoride in drinking water, chemical soups of all sort in food... are all
experiments conducted routinely on the masses by corporations with full
knowledge, backing, and support of our governments and law makers. We're
just cattle...
I had this discussion with Bud re food (mind you, without the conspiracy
angle). One can't avoid all the garbage, but conciously avoid as much as
possible.
Jane
Stat.
"The Other Guy" <theotherguy@worldsbeyond.com> wrote in message
news:izn%e.8705$cq2.1129802@news20.bellglobal.com...
Now that I have thought about it, the original POSTED problem is probably
more to do with a
(yet to be discovered) "Meth." lab.
But, as for Canada's own problems, I will assume the you(Jane) are from
this region of Canada
(please correct me if I am wrong).
- The TESTing of which I am referring to is the many (and I do mean many)
instances of where a
'localized' group (usually shopping malls - but never at the same
location twice) experience
an 'attack' of nausea and vomiting. This was a very common situation
around the Southern
Ontario (Canada) region from between 2000 to 2003.
Most occurrences where mentioned on the local news, and then (as soon as
it was mentioned) the
news story would 'vapourize' much like the 'attack' (and never be
mentioned again) !!! This
would tell me that either; Terrorist have been doing testing in these
locations and CICS was
covering it up (maybe to prevent fear) OR CICS was 'fully aware' of these
situations and just
plain "covering it up".
Just My Thoughts (and probably the last ones here after this post)
:-(]
"Jane" wrote in message
Please do list the "incedents" (sic).
Jane
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