Nostradamus Quatrain 8,20:
Le faux messaige par election fainte
Courir par urban rompu pache arreste,
Voix acheptees, de sang chappelle tainte,
Et =E0 un autre l'empire contraicte.
1=2E The false rumours about the rigged election
2=2E to run through the city hoping to stop the broken pact;
3=2E voices(votes) bought, chapel stained with blood,
4=2E the empire contracted to another one.
1=2E The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3D363549
"For 14 years we have been independent. Now we have become free,"
Yushchenko told supporters gathered overnight in Kiev's Independence
Square, site of more than two weeks of mass protests against November's
rigged election."
2=2E to run through the city hoping to stop Ukraine's Independence from
Russia (broken pact-agreement with Russia);
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Toronto/Peter_Worthington/2004/12/=
01/pf-750227.html
"That the election "victory" of the supposedly pro-Russian Viktor
Yanukovich as president is being protested by hundreds of thousands,
isn't the point either. Democracies tolerate protests."
3a. voices(votes) *BOUGHT*,
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2004/s1253755.htm
"PETER ROMMANIEW: There'd be a list with peoples names on it more than
once, therefore giving them the opportunity to vote more than once. I
saw students being intimidated, threatened, houses vandalized, I saw
people being taken off lists, whereas they were on a list and then for
some reason a couple of days before the election the lists were
changed, so when they came to vote they weren't eligible to vote.
People in our group were able to ***BUY*** absentee voting tickets, so
in effect people could ***BUY*** those and then go to different polling
stations and vote more than once. There were buses driving from polling
station to polling station, so taking people from to one to another so
they could vote more than once."
Similar story at:
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/euro246.html
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1101300221955_8?s_name=
=3D&no_ads=3D
3b. chapel stained with blood,
West Catholic versus East Russian Orthodox Churches will war and will
lead to bloodshed:
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=3D10425
"Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine told parishioners to vote for "God's
candidate", the pro-Moscow Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych, or be
denied the sacraments."
"Prior to the election, the Union of Orthodox Brotherhoods of Ukraine,
a group affiliated with the UOC-MP, warned that if the opposition
leader won, it could spell the beginnings of "persecutions against
Orthodoxy".
Past Bloodshed:
"As the Russian Empire expanded its power into the eastern part of
Ukraine throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, the incursions were
marked by repression against the Uniates and forced conversions to
Orthodoxy, as Moscow used the church as an instrument to "Russify" the
Ukrainians. Under Catherine the Great, for example, Russia forced over
2'300 Uniate churches to become Orthodox, according to historical
accounts."
"When Stalin annexed the region in 1945, Soviet authorities banned the
church and confiscated its properties, and the Uniates went underground
for more than four decade"
4=2E the empire contracted to another one.
Line 4 is even more validated by line 2, the independence gained in
line 2 will be short lived and a new Empire will gain Ukraine.
Bible's Ezechial:
"Thus said the Lord, I am against thee O' Gog, the land of Magog,
Prince of Rosh,
Meshech and Tuba."
In the same sequence as in the Bible, from left to right on the
World Map:
*Rosh* is Ukraine's capital *Kiev Rus* (where Russia got it's name)(Rus
=3D Russia which sounds like Rosh..ia)
*Meshech* is West Russia's capital *Moscow*
*Tubal* is East Russia's *Tobolks* Siberia
All three are greatgrandchildren of Noah that formed nations in their
name.
Nomad Viking's Rhos (Rhos =3D Rosh son of Benjamin in Bible)invaded
Ukraine.
Mongol's moved their capital to Beijing China, Only Beijing China Ruled
over the three above during the Mongol China Empire therfore China is
Gog, and land of Magog is Mongolia.
Nostradamus names 3 Greek Gods as 3 Future Kings, one beside X.72's
Resurrected Mongol King is X.75's Hermes Asian King over all Asia.....
Hermes is the God of Commerce stipulating the new Mongol Empire will
return to power as China's wealth is indeed now increasing through
commerce and only now is Mongolia, Ukraine independent from Russia.
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On 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800, "guskz@hotmail.com" <guskz@hotmail.com>
wrote about quatrain VIII-20:
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--------- Le faux messaige par election fainte ---------------
--------- Courir par vrben,rompue pache arreste, -------------
--------- Voix acheptees,de sang chapelle tainte, ------------
--------- Et à vn autre l'empire contraicte. -----------------
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1=2E The false rumours about the rigged election
2=2E to run through the city hoping to stop the broken pact;
3=2E voices(votes) bought, chapel stained with blood,
4=2E the empire contracted to another one.
1=2E The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
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Perhaps it has not dawned upon you that Yahoo or Google might not
be the best possible interpreters of Nostradamus' texts,
especially one about a rigged election.
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If you make the link between line 1 and line 3, you might see
that a rigged election PLUS bought votes PLUS a chapel might
point to a well-known place where elections are held, i.e., the
Sistine Chapel, in the Vatican.
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Nostradamus seems to be describing here the circumstances of the
election of a pope. The decyphered text shows the circumstances
of the murder of that pope:
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--------- S.S. Iean-Paul Premier fut exécuté l'An ------------
--------- Vn Neuf Sept Huit, occis après le repas ------------
--------- constatant des vols de l'Église par la PII, --------
--------- Vng tant secret Empire en Italie. ------------------
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There you have it! The year, the murderers, the motivation for a
crime which the Vatican has not yet acknowledged: 'H.H. Iohn-Paul
the First was executed in Year One Nine Seven Eight, slain after
the meal [during which he] found thefts of the Church by the PII,
a so secret Power in Italy.'
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Now if you want too Google to your hearts' content, you might
wish to learn a little more about the Masonic Lodge called
Propaganda Due (or P2) in Italy in the years surrounding the
death of pope Paul VI, the election of JPI, the death of JPI, and
the election of JPII; the P2 had infiltrated so many levels of
power in Italy that it had to use the Vatican to do its money-
laundering, something Paul VI was not aware of, something JPI
discovered as soon as he was elected, something he had decided to
put an end to, something he did not have the time to do, as he
was poisoned the night before he was to sack all the Cardinals
who had been involved in this practice.
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Now who says Nostradamus is not an interesting fellow?
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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13 Jan 2005 08:58:13 AM |
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Claude Latremouille wrote:
On 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800, "guskz@hotmail.com"
<guskz@hotmail.com>
wrote about quatrain VIII-20:
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-------------- C E N T V R I E___H V I T I E M E. ------------
------------------ (=E9dition pr=E9tendue de 1568) ---------------
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----------------------------- X X. ---------------------------
--------- Le faux messaige par election fainte ---------------
--------- Courir par vrben,rompue pache arreste, -------------
--------- Voix acheptees,de sang chapelle tainte, ------------
--------- Et =E0 vn autre l'empire contraicte. -----------------
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1=3D2E The false rumours about the rigged election
2=3D2E to run through the city hoping to stop the broken pact;
3=3D2E voices(votes) bought, chapel stained with blood,
4=3D2E the empire contracted to another one.
1=3D2E The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
*
Perhaps it has not dawned upon you that Yahoo or Google might not
be the best possible interpreters of Nostradamus' texts,
especially one about a rigged election.
*
If you make the link between line 1 and line 3, you might see
that a rigged election PLUS bought votes PLUS a chapel might
point to a well-known place where elections are held, i.e., the
Sistine Chapel, in the Vatican.
*
Nostradamus seems to be describing here the circumstances of the
election of a pope. The decyphered text shows the circumstances
of the murder of that pope:
*
--------- S.S. Iean-Paul Premier fut ex=E9cut=E9 l'An ------------
--------- Vn Neuf Sept Huit, occis apr=E8s le repas ------------
--------- constatant des vols de l'=C9glise par la PII, --------
--------- Vng tant secret Empire en Italie. ------------------
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There you have it! The year, the murderers, the motivation for a
crime which the Vatican has not yet acknowledged: 'H.H. Iohn-Paul
the First was executed in Year One Nine Seven Eight, slain after
the meal [during which he] found thefts of the Church by the PII,
a so secret Power in Italy.'
*
All evidence is there was a dead Pope.
Rigged elections, votes bought, broken pact are no where validated in
that story.
Now if you want too Google to your hearts' content, you might
wish to learn a little more about the Masonic Lodge called
Propaganda Due (or P2) in Italy in the years surrounding the
death of pope Paul VI, the election of JPI, the death of JPI, and
the election of JPII; the P2 had infiltrated so many levels of
power in Italy that it had to use the Vatican to do its money-
laundering, something Paul VI was not aware of, something JPI
discovered as soon as he was elected, something he had decided to
put an end to, something he did not have the time to do, as he
was poisoned the night before he was to sack all the Cardinals
who had been involved in this practice.
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Now who says Nostradamus is not an interesting fellow?
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latr=E9mouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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13 Jan 2005 04:32:43 PM |
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Subject: Re: News clips validating Nostie's Ukraine and Mongol Empire
From: " "
Date: 1/13/2005 6:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <1105628293.285557.71490@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Claude Latremouille wrote:
On 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800, " "
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wrote about quatrain VIII-20:
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-------------- C E N T V R I E___H V I T I E M E. ------------
------------------ (=E9dition pr=E9tendue de 1568) ---------------
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----------------------------- X X. ---------------------------
--------- Le faux messaige par election fainte ---------------
--------- Courir par vrben,rompue pache arreste, -------------
--------- Voix acheptees,de sang chapelle tainte, ------------
--------- Et =E0 vn autre l'empire contraicte. -----------------
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1=3D2E The false rumours about the rigged election
2=3D2E to run through the city hoping to stop the broken pact;
3=3D2E voices(votes) bought, chapel stained with blood,
4=3D2E the empire contracted to another one.
1=3D2E The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
*
Perhaps it has not dawned upon you that Yahoo or Google might not
be the best possible interpreters of Nostradamus' texts,
especially one about a rigged election.
*
If you make the link between line 1 and line 3, you might see
that a rigged election PLUS bought votes PLUS a chapel might
point to a well-known place where elections are held, i.e., the
Sistine Chapel, in the Vatican.
*
Nostradamus seems to be describing here the circumstances of the
election of a pope. The decyphered text shows the circumstances
of the murder of that pope:
*
--------- S.S. Iean-Paul Premier fut ex=E9cut=E9 l'An ------------
--------- Vn Neuf Sept Huit, occis apr=E8s le repas ------------
--------- constatant des vols de l'=C9glise par la PII, --------
--------- Vng tant secret Empire en Italie. ------------------
*
There you have it! The year, the murderers, the motivation for a
crime which the Vatican has not yet acknowledged: 'H.H. Iohn-Paul
the First was executed in Year One Nine Seven Eight, slain after
the meal [during which he] found thefts of the Church by the PII,
a so secret Power in Italy.'
*
All evidence is there was a dead Pope.
Rigged elections, votes bought, broken pact are no where validated in
that story.
Now if you want too Google to your hearts' content, you might
wish to learn a little more about the Masonic Lodge called
Propaganda Due (or P2) in Italy in the years surrounding the
death of pope Paul VI, the election of JPI, the death of JPI, and
the election of JPII; the P2 had infiltrated so many levels of
power in Italy that it had to use the Vatican to do its money-
laundering, something Paul VI was not aware of, something JPI
discovered as soon as he was elected, something he had decided to
put an end to, something he did not have the time to do, as he
was poisoned the night before he was to sack all the Cardinals
who had been involved in this practice.
*
Now who says Nostradamus is not an interesting fellow?
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latr=E9mouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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Please point me to that evidence. I still
feel very much alive. But, then I did just
do another MS Contin Blue Angel time
release morphine sulfate tab and ate an
ounce or so of the ALL NEW Altoids
Passion Fruit SOURS. What a nice
combo!!!
Just pinched myself and couldn't feel it.
Maybe I am dead and just refuse to admit
it.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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13 Jan 2005 01:59:11 PM |
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On 13 Jan 2005 06:58:13 -0800, "guskz@hotmail.com" <guskz@hotmail.com>
wrote about what
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Claude Latremouille wrote:
On 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800, "guskz@hotmail.com"
<guskz@hotmail.com>
wrote about quatrain VIII-20:
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-------------- C E N T V R I E___H V I T I E M E. ------------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
----------------------------- X X. ---------------------------
--------- Le faux messaige par election fainte ---------------
--------- Courir par vrben,rompue pache arreste, -------------
--------- Voix acheptees,de sang chapelle tainte, ------------
--------- Et à vn autre l'empire contraicte. -----------------
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[...]
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If you make the link between line 1 and line 3, you might see
that a rigged election PLUS bought votes PLUS a chapel might
point to a well-known place where elections are held, i.e., the
Sistine Chapel, in the Vatican.
*
Nostradamus seems to be describing here the circumstances of the
election of a pope. The decyphered text shows the circumstances
of the murder of that pope:
*
--------- S.S. Iean-Paul Premier fut exécuté l'An ------------
--------- Vn Neuf Sept Huit, occis après le repas ------------
--------- constatant des vols de l'Église par la PII, --------
--------- Vng tant secret Empire en Italie. ------------------
*
There you have it! The year, the murderers, the motivation for a
crime which the Vatican has not yet acknowledged: 'H.H. Iohn-Paul
the First was executed in Year One Nine Seven Eight, slain after
the meal [during which he] found thefts of the Church by the PII,
a so secret Power in Italy.'
*
All evidence is there was a dead Pope.
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Indeed, there was a dead pope, 33 days after his election, a dead
pope who died unexpectedly and whose body was not subjected to
any autopsy whatsoever.
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Rigged elections, votes bought, broken pact are no where validated in
that story.
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First, A rigged ELECTION. Singular. Whose election? Cardinal
Luciani's election. Votes bought? Secrecy in a conclave being the
rule, I doubt we shall ever get the full story on how Luciani was
elected. As to a broken pact, it would seem that the agreement
between the Vatican and the P2 Masonic Lodge for the Vatican's
Institute for Religious Works to serve as a conduit for P2's
money was to be broken by pope John-Paul I the next day. So, yes,
there is indeed an element of a broken agreement.
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The word 'chapel' in the original is the most telling clue in all
this meaningful gobbledygook. You have changed it to 'church', to
make it fit. Nostradamus had enough vocabulary to write 'church'
where he wanted the word church to appear. Instead, he speaks in
the same poem of an election, of bought votes, of a chapel, etc.
After September 1978, all of this comes together, provided JPI
did not die a natural death.
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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12 Jan 2005 02:55:40 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "guskz@hotmail.com" <guskz@hotmail.com> on 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800 spoke:
1. The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
Of course, the election WAS rigged, so NO false rumors.
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12 Jan 2005 04:54:25 PM |
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Bud you must have seen many like this, Big on claims small on a
conclusive explanation, ( a coherent one would do) why should he be
right? everyone else that has used the Bible for last 2000 years has
been WRONG in a big sense, now why would an adolescent have any better
handle considering he has missed the clues and is now desperately
trying cobble a Mongolian Empire to Ukraine, and we wonder how bad
folk come to prominence!
Sometimes I wish I had those codes, I would use them just to wake them
up.
LB
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12 Jan 2005 07:52:27 PM |
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I wouldn't even worry about books on prophecy any
more, Mr Ballam !!!!
Events are going along very nicely, thank-u-very-much ;-)
Out of all the destruction & chaos of this evil vile world -- a new
world emerges in 2012 !!!
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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13 Jan 2005 09:03:00 AM |
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Take your thumb out of your mouth for a second.
Ok, skip the word for word.
The quatrains speaks of:
Rigged Elections
Propaganda
Voices(Votes) bought
Broken Pact (Independence)
Blooded with the churches
Broken Pact with one, and then combine to a new Empire.
News clips on Ukraine have found strong ties to all of these several
criterias.
Argue all you want. Case Closed.
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12 Jan 2005 03:51:07 PM |
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Never anonymous Bud wrote:
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "guskz@hotmail.com"
<guskz@hotmail.com> on 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800 spoke:
1. The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
Of course, the election WAS rigged, so NO false rumors.
It's more "false message"
The false message runs through the city that the elections were not
rigged hoping to stop the independence from Russia.
2. to run through the city hoping to stop the broken pact;
Also if this line is completely seperate, it could be the bus loads of
people that ran to multiple voting locations in order to vote more than
once (as indicated in the news clips provided).
"People in our group were able to ***BUY*** absentee voting tickets, so
in effect people could ***BUY*** those and then go to different polling
stations and vote more than once. There were buses driving from polling
station to polling station, so taking people from to one to another so
they could vote more than once."
also goes well with line #3 where the voices(votes) were bought
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12 Jan 2005 06:23:25 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "guskz@hotmail.com" <guskz@hotmail.com> on 12 Jan 2005 13:51:07 -0800 spoke:
Never anonymous Bud wrote:
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "guskz@hotmail.com"
<guskz@hotmail.com> on 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800 spoke:
1. The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged election")
Of course, the election WAS rigged, so NO false rumors.
It's more "false message"
No, it says FALSE rumors of a rigged election.
That CLEARLY doesn't apply to the Ukraine election.
The false message runs through the city that the elections were not
rigged hoping to stop the independence from Russia.
There were NO 'rumors' that the election wasn't rigged.
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13 Jan 2005 08:02:44 AM |
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Never anonymous Bud wrote:
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "guskz@hotmail.com"
<guskz@hotmail.com> on 12 Jan 2005 13:51:07 -0800 spoke:
Never anonymous Bud wrote:
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "guskz@hotmail.com"
<guskz@hotmail.com> on 12 Jan 2005 06:40:16 -0800 spoke:
1. The false rumours about the rigged election in Ukrain
(just go to any yahoo,google news and search for "rigged
election")
Of course, the election WAS rigged, so NO false rumors.
It's more "false message"
No, it says FALSE rumors of a rigged election.
That CLEARLY doesn't apply to the Ukraine election.
Re-read the original French VERSION (before translation into English)of
the quatrain it says "message"
Coincidently both English and French write "message" the same way.
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The message runs through the city that the elections were not
rigged hoping to stop the independence from Russia.
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Above here there is message without the word false as you see once you
had the word "false" the meaning is opposite and that indeed the
elections were rigged.
The false message runs through the city that the elections were not
rigged hoping to stop the independence from Russia.
There were NO 'rumors' that the election wasn't rigged.
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