A little over a century ago an editor lamented in a
footnote, of a major work, the lack of specific
information concerning the relationship of the Poles
and Teutonic Knights toward each other in their
attempts at converting the Lithuanians. The bulk of
the source stems from the Teutonic side of the
endeavors.
A body of learned men from Lublin, Poland; Dublin,
Ireland; Frankfurt, Germany; British Columbia, Canada;
Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Indiana, United States
of America and other places have been working for many
years on history of the Christian civilizations of the
middle ages. What makes these people heroic is a
monumental effort they put forth at piecing facts of
history together to revel to the current age many
things that current historians do not know.
This is important to Nostradamus researchers, also,
and they are concerned about details like this.
Twenty-five years ago a late thirteenth-century
manuscript was discovered in Ireland. It was an
introduction of a now lost -or perhaps never written -
treaty on the Tartars. “Most of it reads like a verbal
map, or a veritable multicultural tour d’ Europe. In
order to provide a geographical background for his
main subject, the author enumerates in proper
sequence, beginning with Italy, circling the periphery
of Europe anti clockwise, and terminating in Provence,
all the countries encompassing the lands belonging to
nostra Occidentalis Ecclesia. Similarly, and with
impressive accuracy, from the Mediterranean Sea to the
Artic Ocean he traces the ecclesiastical frontier
beyond which lie lands belonging to the Eastern
Church.” writes one of my Professors who received his
masters at Stanford University.
In the middle ages, the outside world was block out to
the Europeans by the Arabians and the greater Europe
had to suffice with staying put. Not much was known to
the east of them. The Arabians tried many times to
take all of France but couldn’t. They cut off access
to the east by the way of dominating the Mediterranean
Sea with their navy. Yet, another scourge more
freighting than the well-known Arab Empire was all the
talk in the ecclesial and political circles in Europe.
This scourge not only almost wiped out Eastern Europe,
it wipe out vast regions of the Arab Empire as well.
The esoteric subject of the AntiChrist arising from
the east was a hot topic in the late Middle Ages to
the men and women of power of Europe. For example,
The Hungarians had the proof of their own. A conquest
had happened and many Huns remained in the country
from the last east invasion. Stories written down and
recently discovered manuscripts of the late thirteenth
century manuscripts onward show how leaders and
ecclesial persons were all terrified of the repeatable
‘ men from the east,’ who had come and were on their
way back, yet again, because it happened twice.
This was part of the ‘east question’ found in the
Bible. Before the Bible was put down in writing this
same episode happened to the Persian Empire and
further back to the Egyptian empire. What was it? It
was a repeatable event that happened so often in
history.
So frightened were the Europeans that these men from
the east would come back and destroy western
civilization, yet again, that agents were dispatched,
secret messenger ships sent, verbal maps of war plans
laid, all making plans about this scourge that they
called the AntiChrist. Most of all it was written
about in treaties that do not survive today, but
enough people who read these treaties managed to
comment heavily on them. It is here, today, right now
in the newsgroup of Nostradamus on his 500th birthday
(Today is the Exact birthday based on the revolutions
of the Earth around the Sun) that we bring up one of
his most significant points of one of Nostradamus'
prophecies with the connection of this body of
scholars.
Leoni mentions the word, Jean Guernon mentions it, and
even the skeptic Amazing Randi accepts the word
Mongolia could be an legitimate anagram for
Angolmois.
“By all means disregard my lies, if any. But... 1.
There is absolutely nothing about 'Mongols' in X.72 --
not least because there is no such word as
'Mongolois', anagrammatised or otherwise…even the word
'Mongol', which *does* occur in modern French, seems
not to have been used by anybody before 1698... So far
as I have been able to ascertain, the word 'Mongolois'
doesn't exist in any French dictionary, ancient or
modern, nor in any ancient text. ” Peter Lemesurier
wrote in fury of responses to the Mongolia question in
the popular Nostradamus poem for 1999 during July
2001.
What Peter Lemesurier is trying to say is that
Nostradamus could not have known about any form of the
word of mongolis/mongolos/mongol etc… because he lived
before 1698...therefore he could not have used it.
We need to step back and reevaluate this. " The first
mention of it that I can find is in Leoni:
'Nostradamus and his Prophecies' (Wings, 1961), in
which (on page 434) he describes the word 'Angolmois'
as "probably an anagram of O.F. 'Mongolois,'"
Lemesurier continued in July 2001. " I assume that
what Leoni really meant was that it is "probably an
anagram of a probable Old French form such as
'Mongolois'" -- one that he had never actually seen."
These middle aged manuscripts are fully connected to
two types of people: The Leaders in power and the
Christians. These documents existed before Nostradamus
or the printing press was born. The themes stem from
Christianity and these manuscripts deal with the
entire spectrum of Christianity in Europe. They had
witnessed twice the invasion and near collapse of
Europe from "mean from the east." The Biblical
authors clearly knew of the episodes of ' men from the
east’, which preceded their writings. The warnings of
prophecies of men from the east stem from history and
are prophetically connected to the Bible and
Nostradamus.
I hold in my hand documents from the late thirteenth
century (Europe) with clearly written words of
Mongolia. Not only were the people of (Europe)
influence and power acquainted with the word Mongolos
and other spelling variants of the word. We know that
this knowledge was passed down to the region of
Provence, France. We have connected the transference
of the knowledge there. Province was the area in the
world of Europe for keeping of secret knowledge.
Nostradamus knew this about Province. He managed to be
in the right place at the right time. We have
letters, treaties, tractates of royalty, ecclesial
persons, anonymous writers, spies, agents in of the
middle ages mentioning the word Mongols when
describing the men from the east from the land of
Mongolia. It is all fully documented and a large
work.
Mongolos/ Mongolois (and other forms used in these
documents) is clearly not a middle age european word.
It was strictly a word used by the Tartars in
describing where they came from to the Europeans. It
is an Asian word that means ' ' men from the east.' '
The worry and threat of them returning was so
overwhelming to the leaders of the Churches and many
rules of Europe that the missionaries connected the
threat of the ‘ men from the east’ to the AntiChrist
of the Bible and the threat coming from the east
described in prophecies in the Bible.
Therefore the last word of line two of X. 72 from
Nostradamus possibly could be an anagram for
Mongolias. Why? Now we have evidence that the word
was, in fact, around well before Nostradamus's time
floating around influential circles of Europe.
Happy Birthday Nostradamus and God bless you.
---
Michael Johnathan McDonald
http://www.Bookoflife.org
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When does the 500th anniversary of Nostradamus' birth occur?
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The answer would have been easy, had the calendar not been
tampered with since his birth, and had the calendar itself not
been slightly defective, thereby necessitating leap years.
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To answer the question, one first needs to know when Nostradamus
was born. Using Jean-Aimé de Chavigny's short biography,
published in 1594, one gets to read:
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« MICHEL DE NOSTREDAME le plus renommé & fameux qu'ait
esté de long siecles en la prediction qui se tire de la
congnoissance , & iugement des Astres , nasquit en la
ville de Sainct Remy en Prouence l'an de grâce I 5 0 3.
vn Ieudy I4. Decembre, enuiron les I2.heures de midy »
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Born in St. Remy in Provence at about Noon on Thursday, December
14, 1503.
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Making an astrological calculation, one finds that he shall be
exactly 500 years-old on Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 4:09
p.m., Eastern Standard Time. How come?
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First, the 10-day correction to the calendar in 1582 by pope
Gregory XIII means that every anniversary of an event having
occurred before then would automatically fall 10 days later,
under the corrected calendar. So, Nostradamus' birthday ought to
be falling on December 24 every year. But...
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But the calendar year and the solar year do not coincide. So much
so that, to make them coincide once every four years, one needs
to add one extra day to February. Which means that many birthdays
sometimes fall either late on the previous day, or early on the
following day of one's date of birth, because of the presence or
absence of a leap year.
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In the case of Nostradamus, the Earth returns to the position it
was occupying relative to the Sun at his birth (the definition of
a birthday) the day before his theoretical anniversary, i.e.,
late on December 23, 2003.
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For astrologers, it is the apparent position of the Sun which
tells where the Earth is. In Nostradamus' case, his natal Sun
being at 1°37' CAPRICORN, this natal position is repeated for the
500th time at 10:09 p.m., Central European Time, on December 23,
2003.
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Should you want to raise your glass to the good doctor, the time
and day to do so depends on your time zone away from Universal
Time (or GMT) which would then be 9:09 p.m.
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In most of North America, 5:09 p.m. (Atlantic), 4:09 p.m.
(Eastern), 3:09 p.m. (Central), 2:09 p.m. (Mountain), or 1:09
p.m. (Pacific).
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Happy 500th, Nosty!
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(Note: This post was by CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE on another thread on dec. 23, 2003)
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