Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
anyone have to guts to answer?
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Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true
Those concerning the future.
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
False.
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
A prophecy is not a prediction, it is sure to happen; what Nostradamus said,
is that they were as sure to all come true as those in the bible would.
anyone have to guts to answer?
Anyone else dare lie and pretend Nostradamus said otherwise?
J.
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04 Sep 2006 01:44:14 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
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Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true
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Those concerning the future.
Absolutely!!
Merlin
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04 Sep 2006 02:28:28 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk>
Spat the Words
Jean Guernon wrote:
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true
Those concerning the future.
Absolutely!!
Merlin
This thread is like the apn version of a lesson in temporal mechanics.
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04 Sep 2006 11:03:25 AM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
False.
True.
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04 Sep 2006 12:44:45 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
False.
True.
Prove it.
J.
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04 Sep 2006 04:48:32 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Prove it.
Likewise, I'm sure.
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04 Sep 2006 05:16:08 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Prove it.
Likewise, I'm sure.
Nah, I can show you where Nostradamus said his prophecies were as sure to
happen as the prophecies of the bible. You on the other hand cannot show me
where he said we could change them.
There is another quotation, it is true. What he said, which was about the
later tribulation, not about what is to come ion the mid-term future, is
that these events are sure to occur, unless God changes his mind which, he
points out, is NOT likely to happen.
Ever seen God change his mind after he made it up?
But you, you pretend the opposite of what Nostradamus said, why?
I know lots of interpreters come up with such a ridiculous thing. But you,
where do you get such garbage? Another lemesuriade?
J.
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04 Sep 2006 05:19:42 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Nah, I can show you where Nostradamus said
his prophecies were as sure to happen as the
prophecies of the bible.
I can tell by the way that you didn't.
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05 Sep 2006 12:10:50 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Nah, I can show you where Nostradamus said
his prophecies were as sure to happen as the
prophecies of the bible.
I can tell by the way that you didn't.
Right, well I said I can, not that I did. Here it is:
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/henri2.html#BM72
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Et pource, Sire, que par ce discours ie mets presque confusément ces
predictions, & quand ce pourra estre & î'aduenement d'iceux, pour le
denombrement du temps que s'ensuit, qu'il n'est nullemêt ou bien peu
conforme au supérieur: lequel tant pa voye Astronomique, que par autres
mesmes des sacrées escritures, qui ne peuuent faillir nullement,
And it is why, Lord, that in this speech I write in a veiled fashion these
predictions, although they will accomplish themselves by the calculation of
the times to come, that is not at all, or else very little, compliant with
the one already presented, which, so much by the means of the astronomy then
by that of the other texts of the Sacred Scriptures, cannot, in any way,
fail to happen,
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06 Sep 2006 12:15:32 AM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Right, well I said I can, not that I did. Here it is:
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/henri2.html#BM72
Yet here's another translation -- not as literal -- which
completely contradicts you:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/epistle.htm
<Quote>
By this discourse, Sire, I present these predictions almost
with confusion, especially as to when they will take place.
Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
very little, if at all, with that which has already been set
forth. Yet it was determined by astronomy and other
sources, including Holy Scriptures, and thus could not err.
<unQuote>
"the chronology of time which follows"
What followed -- immediately after this -- was the biblical
chronology!
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06 Sep 2006 03:17:42 AM |
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"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Right, well I said I can, not that I did. Here it is:
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/henri2.html#BM72
Yet here's another translation -- not as literal -- which
completely contradicts you:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/epistle.htm
<Quote>
By this discourse, Sire, I present these predictions almost
with confusion, especially as to when they will take place.
Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
very little, if at all, with that which has already been set
forth. Yet it was determined by astronomy and other
sources, including Holy Scriptures, and thus could not err.
<unQuote>
"and thus could not err"... although the Seer said "qui ne peuuent faillir
nullement," that cannot fail in any way, say almost the same thing, wiothout
the wording the Seer used.
It says, as I was saying, that they are these predictions of the times to
come are sure to come to pass, it doesn't say that they may be changed.
About this transaltion you cherish, it sounds like some lemesuriade.
"the chronology of time which follows"
What followed -- immediately after this -- was the biblical
chronology!
"dénombrement du temps que s'ensuit... "
Dénombrement = counting, enumeration; (Copyright © 2000, Harrap's
Multimedia).
Hence why I say "calculation" of the time that ensues... I think enumeration
is even better rendered, but chronology is not really bad if one uses
calculation, just that if the Seer would have used that word, he certainly
wouldn't have said 'chronology of the time'. He would have said only
'chronology'. It is obviously it is of the time.
This really sound like a typical lemesuriade. Is it? Anyway. Word by word,
check without the confusion of the rewording:
"that, by this discourse, I put almost confusedly ("que par ce discours ie
mets presque confusément)
a)- these predictions &, (ces predictions & )
b)- when it will be the moment for them to be about to occur, (& quand ce
pourra estre)
c)- & the advent of these for (as to) the enumeration of the time that
ensues" (& î'aduenement d'iceux pour le denombrement du temps que
s'ensuit,")
In other word, adn to answer what you are asking, this part is about the
time they will take to realize themselves.
J.
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06 Sep 2006 06:01:09 AM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Yet here's another translation -- not as literal -- which
completely contradicts you:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/epistle.htm
<Quote>
By this discourse, Sire, I present these predictions almost
with confusion, especially as to when they will take place.
Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
very little, if at all, with that which has already been set
forth. Yet it was determined by astronomy and other
sources, including Holy Scriptures, and thus could not err.
<unQuote>
"and thus could not err"... although the Seer said "qui ne
peuuent faillir nullement," that cannot fail in any way, say
almost the same thing, wiothout the wording the Seer used.
The point is that he's speaking to the biblical chronology that
follows, and not as you misrepresented to the accuracy of
his predictions.
It says, as I was saying, that they are these predictions of
the times to come are sure to come to pass,
No. It's saying that there's this chronology that follows (and
it just happens to be a biblical chronology that immediately
follows) and that this chronology is surely accurate.
He would have [...]
I'm sorry, when exactly did you establish your credentials
as a medium mind-reader?
[---more crapola snipped---]
Now let's go over it again:
| Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
| very little, if at all, with that which has already been set forth.
Well, what immediately follows is a biblical chronology. It's
the second biblical chronology offered in the piece, and it
differs from the first.
Coincidence? It is according to you!
| Yet it was determined by astronomy and other
| sources, including Holy Scriptures, and thus could
| not err
What could not err? The chronology of time that follows,
that biblical chronology.
See? Find a different translation than the one you need
to cling to like a drowning man to a life preserver, get a
completely different answer.
But, hey, keep lying your ***** off. You'll only convince
people who never needed convincing in the first place
(you know, idiots who ironically call themselves
"Skeptics"), but don't let that stop you... as if anything
could.
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06 Sep 2006 12:05:37 PM |
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Nah, when he says his prediction, he speaks of those he just mentioned, and
not of the chronology that follows. And the allusion to the sacred
Scriptures is to say that his predictions cannot fail.
But hey, I have been nice and explained it to you, but you have been an
***** and you prefer the confusion of the lemesuriades, you have picked
your bed, sleep in it.
J.
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Yet here's another translation -- not as literal -- which
completely contradicts you:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/epistle.htm
<Quote>
By this discourse, Sire, I present these predictions almost
with confusion, especially as to when they will take place.
Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
very little, if at all, with that which has already been set
forth. Yet it was determined by astronomy and other
sources, including Holy Scriptures, and thus could not err.
<unQuote>
"and thus could not err"... although the Seer said "qui ne
peuuent faillir nullement," that cannot fail in any way, say
almost the same thing, wiothout the wording the Seer used.
The point is that he's speaking to the biblical chronology that
follows, and not as you misrepresented to the accuracy of
his predictions.
It says, as I was saying, that they are these predictions of
the times to come are sure to come to pass,
No. It's saying that there's this chronology that follows (and
it just happens to be a biblical chronology that immediately
follows) and that this chronology is surely accurate.
He would have [...]
I'm sorry, when exactly did you establish your credentials
as a medium mind-reader?
[---more crapola snipped---]
Now let's go over it again:
| Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
| very little, if at all, with that which has already been set forth.
Well, what immediately follows is a biblical chronology. It's
the second biblical chronology offered in the piece, and it
differs from the first.
Coincidence? It is according to you!
| Yet it was determined by astronomy and other
| sources, including Holy Scriptures, and thus could
| not err
What could not err? The chronology of time that follows,
that biblical chronology.
See? Find a different translation than the one you need
to cling to like a drowning man to a life preserver, get a
completely different answer.
But, hey, keep lying your ***** off. You'll only convince
people who never needed convincing in the first place
(you know, idiots who ironically call themselves
"Skeptics"), but don't let that stop you... as if anything
could.
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06 Sep 2006 02:59:46 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Nah, when he says his prediction, he speaks of those
he just mentioned,
No.
| Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
| very little, if at all, with that which has already been set forth.
The chronology that immediately follows this is a biblical
chronology. What has already been set forth? Another
biblical chronology! He introduced one earlier in the piece
that was different!
In the earlier chronology he had Abraham following Noah
and the "universal flood" by over 1,000 years. The the
latter chronology -- the one he's talking about here and
you misrepresent as him talking about his predictions --
he has 295 years before the end of the flood and
Abraham.
So where does that leave us?
It leaves us with Nostradamus saying that the biblical
chronology that immediately follows in different from
the previous one, but he assures it's accuracy.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/epistle.htm
If the paragraph begining "Ever since my long-beclouded"
is the first paragraph, you'll find his first biblical chronology
in paragraph 10.
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Told you what Nostradamus said, but also told you that since you insist
buying this crap, you live with it. There is nothing to discuss.
J.
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Nah, when he says his prediction, he speaks of those
he just mentioned,
No.
| Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms
| very little, if at all, with that which has already been set forth.
The chronology that immediately follows this is a biblical
chronology. What has already been set forth? Another
biblical chronology! He introduced one earlier in the piece
that was different!
In the earlier chronology he had Abraham following Noah
and the "universal flood" by over 1,000 years. The the
latter chronology -- the one he's talking about here and
you misrepresent as him talking about his predictions --
he has 295 years before the end of the flood and
Abraham.
So where does that leave us?
It leaves us with Nostradamus saying that the biblical
chronology that immediately follows in different from
the previous one, but he assures it's accuracy.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/epistle.htm
If the paragraph begining "Ever since my long-beclouded"
is the first paragraph, you'll find his first biblical chronology
in paragraph 10.
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07 Sep 2006 03:00:40 AM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Told you what Nostradamus said,
Clearly, you did no such thing. And, yeah, I
demonstrated exactly that.
You openly -- even defiantly -- cling to a falsehood
because you haven't the strength to admit a mistake.
Worse still, you appear confident that most others
are like you, and so no shame will be suffered.
You're a disgrace.
You cherry-picked a quoe where Nostradamus is
talking about his biblical chronology and pretended
that he was speaking of his prophecies. I showed
this. I demonstrated this for you. But you & your
sycophants are below contempt.
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"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
anyone have to guts to answer?
I'd say the King of Terror prediction is creepy. He said 1999 and the planes hit the WTC in 2001. Of
course planes come from the sky and UBL is most certianly a terror master. So he missed by 2
years.........big deal. Not bad considering the time interval. It's the only prediction he made that
hasn't been explained away by the local "experts". The WTC event certainly turned the world upside
down.
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Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
Let me turn the question around for brevity sakes. Imagine
in your life that Nostradamus designed/architects his predictions
so that each human had one and only one prediction
that pertained to his or her life, and not abstractly, but concretely
...would that idea change your opinion about his predictions?
These are the most worrisome pertaining to world events,
that you don't want to become true -
Century 8 Quatrain LXX. (70)
Il entrera vilain, mechant, infame
Tyrannisant la Mesopotamie,
Tous amis fait d'adulterine d'ame,
Terre horrible, noir de phisonomie.
He will enter, wicked, unpleasant, infamous,
tyrannizing over Mesopotamia.
All friends made by the adulterous lady,
the land dreadful and black of aspect.
Century 1 Qutrain 3
When the litters are overturned by the whirlwind
and faces are covered by cloaks,
the new republic will be troubled by its people.
At this time the [[[[reds and the whites]]] will rule wrongly.
Century 5. Quatrain 62
One will see blood to rain on the rocks,
Sun in the East, Saturn in the West:
Near Orgon war, at Rome great evil to be seen,
Ships sunk to the bottom, taken by Trident.
[the above c 5q 62 don't use Sun and Saturn as obvious
astrological attributes. If you do you will corrupt the
intended interpretation, step out of the circle. Note: 7.31.2006]
Century 2 Quatrain 62
Mabus then will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.
Century VI (6) Quatrain 40.
Sa main derniere par Alus sanguinaire,
Ne se pourra par la mer garentir:
Entre deux fleuues craindre main militaire,
Le noir l'ireux le fera repentir.
His last hand through "Alus" sanguinary,
He will be unable to protect himself by sea:
Between two rivers he will fear the military hand,
The black and irate one will make him rue it.
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
Correct.
The key to a civilizations <survival> is "mass consciousness"
and most importantly how they use it.
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
anyone have to guts to answer?
Which variables?
Sure, the most powerful and least understood 'variable' and most
Nostradamus scholars avoid it or at least to my research comprehend
Nostradamus' use of the "the language of the birds" or the "green
language." Joseph Goebbels, attempted to use the prophecies as
propaganda therefore creating a semi-mass consciousness experiment
which backfired...altering history. Hence, that least understood variable
"the language of the birds" is highly shrouded and suppressed.
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04 Sep 2006 01:05:31 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
Of those that have any meaningful value, all of them have thus far
*never* been fulfilled to the satisfaction of the original text (that's
a 0% success-rate).
However, at least 67% of Nosty's entire predictions were based on
events that had occurred in *his* past, (i.e. before his prophecies
were printed) which he simply projected into the future.
Merlin
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04 Sep 2006 05:18:25 PM |
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Virtually all have come to pass exactly as written. That is around 2/3 of
them. I suggest you look deeper.
Want some hints? Look on my site.
J.
"Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
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JTEM wrote:
Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
Of those that have any meaningful value, all of them have thus far
*never* been fulfilled to the satisfaction of the original text (that's
a 0% success-rate).
However, at least 67% of Nosty's entire predictions were based on
events that had occurred in *his* past, (i.e. before his prophecies
were printed) which he simply projected into the future.
Merlin
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05 Sep 2006 12:16:34 PM |
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And btw, even though there were some elements of the past, none of the
prophecies describe exactly any event before they were written. They are not
projections of past events in the future, they are revelations of the future
by God (http://www.michelnostradamus.org/henri2.html#BM30 ), for which he
may have used some past occurences in some lines to formulate his poetry
about these future events.
J.
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Virtually all have come to pass exactly as written. That is around 2/3 of
them. I suggest you look deeper.
Want some hints? Look on my site.
J.
"Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
1157393131.702399.196820@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
JTEM wrote:
Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
Of those that have any meaningful value, all of them have thus far
*never* been fulfilled to the satisfaction of the original text (that's
a 0% success-rate).
However, at least 67% of Nosty's entire predictions were based on
events that had occurred in *his* past, (i.e. before his prophecies
were printed) which he simply projected into the future.
Merlin
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05 Sep 2006 04:34:58 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Virtually all have come to pass exactly as written. That is around 2/3 of
them. I suggest you look deeper.
Want some hints? Look on my site.
Why, are you afraid to post them here?
Merlin
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"Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Virtually all have come to pass exactly as written. That is around 2/3 of
them. I suggest you look deeper.
Want some hints? Look on my site.
Why, are you afraid to post them here?
Merlin
Not at all. But it would be too much, 2/3 rd of the quatrains have come to
pass. Even if one summarize the analysis of these in a couple of lines, as I
have done, it is too much. I have put them in chronological order, centuries
by centuries, from the 16th, to the 20th, and those to come in the 21st
Century and beyond section.
Each of them is summarized on the site, there is an extensive analysis that
has been published, but is not available online, for each. But I can discuss
any you are interested in more extensively.
A few need revision, or in some cases have been revised but the site has not
been updated. But it is a negligible percentage so far.
You know my site, yes?
It is http://www.michelnostradamus.org in case you didn't. Maybe you'll
change your mind and see that the prophecies are not some half baked events
from the past if you really want to see. But then again, maybe you won't. I
am not a prophet, I don't know. Nostradamus is the only post medieval
prophet. Time will tell. ;-)
J.
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06 Sep 2006 01:34:36 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
"Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
1157492098.017600.143060@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jean Guernon wrote:
Virtually all have come to pass exactly as written. That is around 2/3=
of
them. I suggest you look deeper.
Want some hints? Look on my site.
Why, are you afraid to post them here?
Merlin
Not at all. But it would be too much, 2/3 rd of the quatrains have come to
pass. Even if one summarize the analysis of these in a couple of lines, a=
s I
have done, it is too much. I have put them in chronological order, centur=
ies
by centuries, from the 16th, to the 20th, and those to come in the 21st
Century and beyond section.
Each of them is summarized on the site, there is an extensive analysis th=
at
has been published, but is not available online, for each. But I can disc=
uss
any you are interested in more extensively.
Hey the stuff on your site is 1) badly presented
2) lacks a good orthography
3) has a very poor explantion
4) is not at all convincing
5) Should I go on, or do you read that as not helpful?
A few need revision, or in some cases have been revised but the site has =
not
been updated. But it is a negligible percentage so far.
You know my site, yes?
It is http://www.michelnostradamus.org in case you didn't. Maybe you'll
change your mind and see that the prophecies are not some half baked even=
ts
from the past if you really want to see. But then again, maybe you won't.=
I
am not a prophet, I don't know. Nostradamus is the only post medieval
prophet. Time will tell. ;-)
J.
Until you can come up with something more convincing don't denigrate
PLM maybe he does a poor translation and shocking interpretation but
that man is in a space shuttle compared to your balloon!
Take a scholarly approach ditch the friggin' Bible, why would Nostie
bother to reiterate, particuarly when a polymath can confound in a
phrase?
Mayhap read PLM's encylcopedia the bit about approach quite good.
LB
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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07 Sep 2006 01:06:23 AM |
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I don't discuss sacred matters with anti-semites.
But tell us, Leigh, is Musharaf still the guy you think needs to be put down
because of his "support" against terrorism, now that he has granted amnesty
to Bon Laden if he promises to be a good boy?
J.
<leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
1157567676.092382.160760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Jean Guernon wrote:
"Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
1157492098.017600.143060@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jean Guernon wrote:
Virtually all have come to pass exactly as written. That is around 2/3
of
them. I suggest you look deeper.
Want some hints? Look on my site.
Why, are you afraid to post them here?
Merlin
Not at all. But it would be too much, 2/3 rd of the quatrains have come to
pass. Even if one summarize the analysis of these in a couple of lines, as
I
have done, it is too much. I have put them in chronological order,
centuries
by centuries, from the 16th, to the 20th, and those to come in the 21st
Century and beyond section.
Each of them is summarized on the site, there is an extensive analysis
that
has been published, but is not available online, for each. But I can
discuss
any you are interested in more extensively.
Hey the stuff on your site is 1) badly presented
2) lacks a good orthography
3) has a very poor explantion
4) is not at all convincing
5) Should I go on, or do you read that as not helpful?
A few need revision, or in some cases have been revised but the site has
not
been updated. But it is a negligible percentage so far.
You know my site, yes?
It is http://www.michelnostradamus.org in case you didn't. Maybe you'll
change your mind and see that the prophecies are not some half baked
events
from the past if you really want to see. But then again, maybe you won't.
I
am not a prophet, I don't know. Nostradamus is the only post medieval
prophet. Time will tell. ;-)
J.
Until you can come up with something more convincing don't denigrate
PLM maybe he does a poor translation and shocking interpretation but
that man is in a space shuttle compared to your balloon!
Take a scholarly approach ditch the friggin' Bible, why would Nostie
bother to reiterate, particuarly when a polymath can confound in a
phrase?
Mayhap read PLM's encylcopedia the bit about approach quite good.
LB
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| User: "" |
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04 Sep 2006 12:21:13 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
Okay, real question here:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
The Problem with Nostradamus is that the Commentators are SOOOO Dumb
they really do not know what he is actually saying, if 5% of the
Shakespeare scholars were to study instead of Halfwits New Agers and
downright Dumb Fundamentalists, the problem would solved.
The Quatrain one has to start with is of course CXQ72, Now if one
studies Mr N objectively one soon notices (By the way there are only 3
authors worth Studying unless you like to read Absolute Garbage, They
are in chronological Order E Leoni L Le Vert and old P Le Mesurier, now
they will not give you answers but there is some grey matter between
their ears and collecively if you cannot work it out well join the
Dumbos)
Now back to that Quatrain they the Q's fall into about 10 categories
and are structured in a similar, manner so what is Quatrain about, well
it is a PROFILE Quatrain about a man's life in Power, who literally
came to power in 1999 from the Skies, now just because Tony Blair and
Georgie Bush have their tongues washing around his Arsehole at present
sounds Like Saddam and Hitler hey?
But a Mr N says "Lucky in War" mind you I would rather have maggots
than those two around my ring!
Oh the mans name Gen P Musharaff future King of UK and most probably
the US's slave master, make mine a Julep I say, love to see cotton
pickers watching their kiddies cleaning up DU eh?
While their women folk take a Rogering!!!!
PS I will bet on this One bet the other Dorks dodge that too.
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
We can but the Bus driver is drunk and won't let anyone near the wheel
Sorry Boyo the future is Set otherwise why Prophecise?
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
anyone have to guts to answer?
Never mind enjoy what thou hast whilst thou still has it.
Get Jeany boy to explain 2023 he dodges that one more than a mirror,
maybe because he cannot he comes from Quebec must be worse than
Barcelona, eh Fawlty?
LB
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| User: "francois cap" |
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22 Oct 2006 03:00:45 AM |
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all the forecasts of nostradamus will come true if only a matter of time.
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| User: "" |
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22 Oct 2006 04:40:56 PM |
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francois cap wrote:
all the forecasts of nostradamus will come true if only a matter of time.
But first there must Be a Consensus of just what he did write about,
after all no point if one cannot understand the message beforehand!!
So Chapter and Verse please on just what is being Proposed.
LB
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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04 Sep 2006 02:58:04 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
You should ask, "which prediction came true" The answer is none.
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
All 'seers' include this rider to their rambling 'predictions'. It's a
nice 'get-out' clause.
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
It made no difference to the world. With, or without Nostradamus and
his claims, the world would be exactly as it is now.
anyone have to guts to answer?
The only courage involved, is talking to you, after all, you are dead.
Werewolfy
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| User: "JTEM" |
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04 Sep 2006 03:32:52 AM |
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Werewolfy wrote:
JTEM wrote:
What predictions of Nostradamus never came true?
You should ask, "which prediction came true" The
answer is none.
Seems that's the question you should be asking.
Nostradamus himself said that the future wasn't set,
that we had the power to alter the course of history.
All 'seers' include this rider to their rambling 'predictions'.
It's a nice 'get-out' clause.
Only to binary thinkers.
Given all his prophecies, and all the variables that
would be at play here, it stands to reason to human
"Free Will" had to alter one or more of those
variable enough to avoid a prediction.
It made no difference to the world.
That's great, a real strong effort. Pointless. Out of
context. But, hey, it was great.
The only courage involved, is talking to you, after all,
you are dead.
Such strong words, and over usenet no less! You must
be proud of yourself.
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