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Date: 15 Mar 2007 09:46:20 AM
Object: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust!
Perhaps they are America & Britain or two individuals instead?
Nostradamus' ***ORACLE*** must be that Europe's First Nuclear Site in
Scotland (Polaris)
...... will ALSO be the First Logistic Site to be Nuclear Demolished by
Persia's Iran and the Antichrist.
...... and then Europe's New Poland & Slovakian Nuclear defense sites
will also be demolished by Iran.
Just recent news at:
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/international/ticker/detail/U_S_lobbies_Europe_over_disputed_missile_shield_plan.html?siteSect=143&sid=7620983&cKey=1173888518000
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just recent news: "Blair Wins Vote to Renew Atom Arsenal" using
American-supplied nuclear Trident missiles (new version of the Polaris
missiles)
The 1963 Polaris Sales Agreement which was modified in 1982 for
Trident
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_missile ).
( Blair win's vote at: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/world/europe/15britain.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nostradamus' quatrains are:
10.66
The London premier through American power
will burden the island of Scotland with a cold thing (1963's Polaris
Nuclear Missiles).
Reb the King will have so dreadful an antichrist
who will bring them all into trouble.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Sales_Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_missile
Quote: "Under the Nassau agreement that emerged from the 1962 Nassau
Conference between Harold Macmillan and John F. Kennedy, the United
States would supply Britain with Polaris missiles"
-----------------------------------
NOSTRADAMUS NUCLEAR *****ORACLE****** (quatrains 3.4, 3.5 and 5.93)
Quatrain 3,4
When they will be close the lunar ones will fail (lunar = ski missiles
will fail/demolished),

From one another not greatly distant (= all missile sites demolished

simulatenously),
Cold, dryness, danger towards the frontiers (frontiers =front defense
sites = missile sites),
Even where the ***ORACLE**** has had its beginning. (Scotland's
POLARIS site was the beginning = initial nuclear missile defense/
offense site and still the same site).
Quatrain 3,5
Near, far the failure of the two great luminaries (two missiles sites
in 3.4)
Which will occur between April and March.
Oh, what a loss! but two great good-natured ones (The two heroes of
10.63)
By land and sea will relieve all parts.
The hidden revealed: Nostradamus refers them as "two heroes" and "two
great good-natured ones". The missiles and nuclear attack as
lunars(ski missiles) and luminaries in his quatrains (below here).
Quatrains 10.61 to 10.66's Polaris are linked and foretell the Two
Heroes of the Coming Nuclear Holocaust.
Quatrain 10,63 (see 10.66 above for Reb the King and his son the
Antichrist)
Cydonia (GREECE), Ragusa (ITALY), the city of St. Jerome(France),
With healing (all Europe) help to grow green again (after war
devastation):
The King's son dead (Antichrist son of Reb the King) because of the
death of *two heroes*,
Araby and Hungary (Iran's Persian Empire)will take the same course.
--------------------------------------
Quatrain 5,93
Under the land of the round lunar globe,
When Mercury will be dominating:
The isle of Scotland will produce a luminary,
One who will put the English into confusion.
(Iran nuke missiles will destroy Polaris missiles = luminary see
quatrain 3.4 above which describes nuke missiles as lunar = luminaries
= ski missiles....when Persia Iran's missiles hit Scotland's Polaris
they will light up the sky as luminaires).
Nostradramus letter to his son, quote:"and resembling fire from some
flashing
cataclysm, and suddenly illumined (LUMINARY) the house as if it were
caught in a
furnace. Which is why I reduced them to ashes then, so that none might
be
tempted to use occult labours in searching for the perfect
transmutation,
whether *****lunar**** or solar.....)
------------------------------------
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 17 Mar 2007 12:29:32 PM
<guskz@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1173969980.792379.202120@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

Perhaps they are America & Britain or two individuals instead?

Nostradamus' ***ORACLE*** must be that Europe's First Nuclear Site in
Scotland (Polaris)
..... will ALSO be the First Logistic Site to be Nuclear Demolished by
Persia's Iran and the Antichrist.

..... and then Europe's New Poland & Slovakian Nuclear defense sites
will also be demolished by Iran.

Just recent news at:
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/international/ticker/detail/U_S_lobbies_Europe_over_disputed_missile_shield_plan.html?siteSect=143&sid=7620983&cKey=1173888518000

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just recent news: "Blair Wins Vote to Renew Atom Arsenal" using
American-supplied nuclear Trident missiles (new version of the Polaris
missiles)

The 1963 Polaris Sales Agreement which was modified in 1982 for
Trident
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_missile ).

( Blair win's vote at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/world/europe/15britain.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nostradamus' quatrains are:

10.66
The London premier through American power
will burden the island of Scotland with a cold thing (1963's Polaris
Nuclear Missiles).
Reb the King will have so dreadful an antichrist
who will bring them all into trouble.

Not exactly what the quatrain says:
http://www.propheties.it/no/decima%20centuria/c10q66.htm
It says that the Scotish 'Island' will be 'iced' by frost.
Albeit this is a difficult quatrain and does speak of an antichrist to come,
it may not refer to Canada as originally thought because of Americh, but to
Scotland, because of 5,93 which is about a past event of this region, but
calls it also an island but this one above will have to be verified in many
decades, in what I call the era of the antichrists, as although the next
world war will indeed be led by an Iranian, he will not be an antichrist (as
described in the letter to Henri II - who will come long after the third
world war), but he will nonetheless be the third men of the three (as per
the Letter to his son) who will put the world into turmoil (the two others
being Napoleon adn Hitler).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Sales_Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_missile
Quote: "Under the Nassau agreement that emerged from the 1962 Nassau
Conference between Harold Macmillan and John F. Kennedy, the United
States would supply Britain with Polaris missiles"

-----------------------------------

NOSTRADAMUS NUCLEAR *****ORACLE****** (quatrains 3.4, 3.5 and 5.93)

Quatrain 3,4

When they will be close the lunar ones will fail (lunar = ski missiles
will fail/demolished),

From one another not greatly distant (= all missile sites demolished

simulatenously),
Cold, dryness, danger towards the frontiers (frontiers =front defense
sites = missile sites),
Even where the ***ORACLE**** has had its beginning. (Scotland's
POLARIS site was the beginning = initial nuclear missile defense/
offense site and still the same site).

http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q4.htm
First, here the lunar ones is about Islamists. Second, given the preceeding
remarks, this would be a quatrain based on the false premise of another. Not
very likely. The oracle indicates an event more likely coming from Irak and
one of its neighbor, but the cold and dryness at the frontiers 'may' be
indicative of the use of nukes.


Quatrain 3,5
Near, far the failure of the two great luminaries (two missiles sites
in 3.4)
Which will occur between April and March.
Oh, what a loss! but two great good-natured ones (The two heroes of
10.63)
By land and sea will relieve all parts.

This one may be about the use of nukes, since the first line really is about
the eclipse of the sun and the moon, something that can hardly happen
outside nukes that would surround the atmosphere with particles that would
block their light


The hidden revealed: Nostradamus refers them as "two heroes" and "two
great good-natured ones". The missiles and nuclear attack as
lunars(ski missiles) and luminaries in his quatrains (below here).

Quatrains 10.61 to 10.66's Polaris are linked and foretell the Two
Heroes of the Coming Nuclear Holocaust.

Quatrain 10,63 (see 10.66 above for Reb the King and his son the
Antichrist)
Cydonia (GREECE), Ragusa (ITALY), the city of St. Jerome(France),
With healing (all Europe) help to grow green again (after war
devastation):
The King's son dead (Antichrist son of Reb the King) because of the
death of *two heroes*,
Araby and Hungary (Iran's Persian Empire)will take the same course.

http://www.propheties.it/no/decima%20centuria/c10q61.htm
10,61 indeed would concern the next word war, but would be the uncovering of
an Islamist conspiration conspiracy from different proponent of this faith
aiming at abandoning Hyngary to the Islamic forces, which would be uncovered
by some entity identified as 'la matrone' which could be some secret service
in Rome or more likely in France (Marne).

--------------------------------------
Quatrain 5,93
Under the land of the round lunar globe,
When Mercury will be dominating:
The isle of Scotland will produce a luminary,
One who will put the English into confusion.

(Iran nuke missiles will destroy Polaris missiles = luminary see
quatrain 3.4 above which describes nuke missiles as lunar = luminaries
= ski missiles....when Persia Iran's missiles hit Scotland's Polaris
they will light up the sky as luminaires).

It can be hardly about astrological position...
This one seems to be about the past, and refers to the victory of Scotland
over England under James 1st.
http://www.propheties.it/no/quinta%20centuria/c5q93.htm
The luminary is often about gold or silver or religious confrontations, and
there is reason to believe the one raised in Scotland could be in relation
to the revolt against the imposition of the Anglican hierarchy to the
Scottish.
Still, because of the specificity of the first line and second line, which
may refer to some specific occurence in some Islamic state, it could indeed
be about more than just England and Scotland although it appears to be a
distinct simultaneous event. But on the other hand, it is hard to imagine
some parralel event to the James 1st era in the future, but who knows.


Nostradramus letter to his son, quote:"and resembling fire from some
flashing
cataclysm, and suddenly illumined (LUMINARY) the house as if it were
caught in a
furnace. Which is why I reduced them to ashes then, so that none might
be
tempted to use occult labours in searching for the perfect
transmutation,
whether *****lunar**** or solar.....)

------------------------------------

Nah, this is merely the description of the fire that burnt the books he
destroyed... probably because the covers were made of some special
substance.
See http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e29 :
---------------------------------------------------------------------
29. Et côbien que, celle occulte Philosophie ne fusse reprouuée, n'ay onques
volu presenter leurs effrenées persuations: côbien que plusieurs volumes gui
ont esté cachés par long siecles ne sont estés manifestés.
And although this occult philosophy is not outcast, I have not wanted to
elaborate on its tremendous power of persuasion, even though many revealing
books, hidden during long centuries, have fallen into my hands.
NOTE: Nostradamus would have thus consulted certain secular manuscripts,
refering to judiciary astrology, from which he would have derived his
science.
30. Mais doutant ce qui aduiendroit en ay faict apres la lecture, present à
Vulcan, que ce pendaut qu'il les venoit à deuorer la flâme leschant l'air
rendoit vne darté insolite, plus claire que naturelle flamme, comme lumiere
de feu de clistre fulgurant illuminant subit la maison, comme si elle fust
esté en subite conflagration.
But fearing what would become, after the reading, I offered them as a
present to Vulcan, and while he was devouring them, the flame licking them,
the air took an unwonted brightness, brighter than the normal flame, like
the light of the flashing thunder lighting suddenly the house, as if it had
been at the center of a conflagration.
NOTE: Despite this shameful gesture, one must understand that Nostradamus
was just complying to the directives of the Church which, itself, burned
with zeal anything that could threaten the traditional faith.
31. Parquoy afin que à l'aduenir ne fusses abusé, perscrutant la parfaicte
trâsformation, tant seline solaire, & soubz terre metaulx incorruptibles &
aux vndes occultes, les ay en cendres conuertis
And in order that in the future you may not be abused, searching the perfect
transmutation, in silver as much as in gold, searching the earth and the
seas for incorruptible metals, I have preferred to convert them to ashes.
NOTE: From what he tells us, these ancients manuscripts would have also bear
down upon alchemy and upon those reprehensible practices that were mentioned
in paragraph 27, which would provide a certain justification to his guilty
gesture.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
J.
.
User: "Claude Latremouille"

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 17 Mar 2007 04:40:41 PM
*
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:29:32 GMT, celebrating St. Patrick's Day by
speaking of Scotland, "Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote this about line 2 of quatrain X-66:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
--------------------------- L X V I. -------------------------
----------- Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh, ----------
----------- L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee: ------------
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
----------- Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee. ----------
*

It says that the Scotish 'Island' will be 'iced' by frost.

*
Not really. In fact, it does not say anything as clear as that.
*
If one absolutely wants to make sense of this meaningful
gobbledygook, one has to say that line 2 reads: "The Island of
Scotland shall make thou worse by frost:"
*
And as you know that Scotland is not an island, then you know
that the text hides something because, as written, it does not
make any sense at all.
*
But we all know why you want to make sense of that nonsense: your
book forgets to mention that this is an enciphered text. And one
way to make this go away is to pretend that the text makes sense.
It just doesn't.
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
March 17, 2007
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
*
===
===
=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
===========================
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 18 Mar 2007 12:19:22 PM
Jean Guernon wrote:

<guskz@hotmail.com> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
1173969980.792379.202120@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

Perhaps they are America & Britain or two individuals instead?

Nostradamus' ***ORACLE*** must be that Europe's First Nuclear Site in
Scotland (Polaris)
..... will ALSO be the First Logistic Site to be Nuclear Demolished by
Persia's Iran and the Antichrist.

..... and then Europe's New Poland & Slovakian Nuclear defense sites
will also be demolished by Iran.

Just recent news at:
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/international/ticker/detail/U_S_lobbies_Eu=

rope_over_disputed_missile_shield_plan.html?siteSect=3D143&sid=3D7620983&cK=
ey=3D1173888518000


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just recent news: "Blair Wins Vote to Renew Atom Arsenal" using
American-supplied nuclear Trident missiles (new version of the Polaris
missiles)

The 1963 Polaris Sales Agreement which was modified in 1982 for
Trident
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_missile ).

( Blair win's vote at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/world/europe/15britain.html?_r=3D2&or=

ef=3Dslogin&oref=3Dslogin

)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nostradamus' quatrains are:

10.66
The London premier through American power
will burden the island of Scotland with a cold thing (1963's Polaris
Nuclear Missiles).
Reb the King will have so dreadful an antichrist
who will bring them all into trouble.


Not exactly what the quatrain says:

http://www.propheties.it/no/decima%20centuria/c10q66.htm

It says that the Scotish 'Island' will be 'iced' by frost.

Albeit this is a difficult quatrain and does speak of an antichrist to co=

me,

it may not refer to Canada as originally thought because of Americh, but =

to

Scotland, because of 5,93 which is about a past event of this region, but
calls it also an island but this one above will have to be verified in ma=

ny

decades, in what I call the era of the antichrists, as although the next
world war will indeed be led by an Iranian, he will not be an antichrist =

(as

described in the letter to Henri II - who will come long after the third
world war), but he will nonetheless be the third men of the three (as per
the Letter to his son) who will put the world into turmoil (the two others
being Napoleon adn Hitler).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Sales_Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_missile
Quote: "Under the Nassau agreement that emerged from the 1962 Nassau
Conference between Harold Macmillan and John F. Kennedy, the United
States would supply Britain with Polaris missiles"

-----------------------------------

NOSTRADAMUS NUCLEAR *****ORACLE****** (quatrains 3.4, 3.5 and 5.93)

Quatrain 3,4

When they will be close the lunar ones will fail (lunar =3D ski missiles
will fail/demolished),

From one another not greatly distant (=3D all missile sites demolished

simulatenously),
Cold, dryness, danger towards the frontiers (frontiers =3Dfront defense
sites =3D missile sites),
Even where the ***ORACLE**** has had its beginning. (Scotland's
POLARIS site was the beginning =3D initial nuclear missile defense/
offense site and still the same site).


http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q4.htm

First, here the lunar ones is about Islamists. Second, given the preceedi=

ng

remarks, this would be a quatrain based on the false premise of another. =

Not

very likely. The oracle indicates an event more likely coming from Irak a=

nd

one of its neighbor, but the cold and dryness at the frontiers 'may' be
indicative of the use of nukes.


Quatrain 3,5
Near, far the failure of the two great luminaries (two missiles sites
in 3.4)
Which will occur between April and March.
Oh, what a loss! but two great good-natured ones (The two heroes of
10.63)
By land and sea will relieve all parts.


This one may be about the use of nukes, since the first line really is ab=

out

the eclipse of the sun and the moon, something that can hardly happen
outside nukes that would surround the atmosphere with particles that would
block their light


The hidden revealed: Nostradamus refers them as "two heroes" and "two
great good-natured ones". The missiles and nuclear attack as
lunars(ski missiles) and luminaries in his quatrains (below here).

Quatrains 10.61 to 10.66's Polaris are linked and foretell the Two
Heroes of the Coming Nuclear Holocaust.

Quatrain 10,63 (see 10.66 above for Reb the King and his son the
Antichrist)
Cydonia (GREECE), Ragusa (ITALY), the city of St. Jerome(France),
With healing (all Europe) help to grow green again (after war
devastation):
The King's son dead (Antichrist son of Reb the King) because of the
death of *two heroes*,
Araby and Hungary (Iran's Persian Empire)will take the same course.

http://www.propheties.it/no/decima%20centuria/c10q61.htm
10,61 indeed would concern the next word war, but would be the uncovering=

of

an Islamist conspiration conspiracy from different proponent of this faith
aiming at abandoning Hyngary to the Islamic forces, which would be uncove=

red

by some entity identified as 'la matrone' which could be some secret serv=

ice

in Rome or more likely in France (Marne).

--------------------------------------
Quatrain 5,93
Under the land of the round lunar globe,
When Mercury will be dominating:
The isle of Scotland will produce a luminary,
One who will put the English into confusion.

(Iran nuke missiles will destroy Polaris missiles =3D luminary see
quatrain 3.4 above which describes nuke missiles as lunar =3D luminaries
=3D ski missiles....when Persia Iran's missiles hit Scotland's Polaris
they will light up the sky as luminaires).


It can be hardly about astrological position...

This one seems to be about the past, and refers to the victory of Scotland
over England under James 1st.
http://www.propheties.it/no/quinta%20centuria/c5q93.htm

The luminary is often about gold or silver or religious confrontations, a=

nd

there is reason to believe the one raised in Scotland could be in relation
to the revolt against the imposition of the Anglican hierarchy to the
Scottish.

Still, because of the specificity of the first line and second line, which
may refer to some specific occurence in some Islamic state, it could inde=

ed

be about more than just England and Scotland although it appears to be a
distinct simultaneous event. But on the other hand, it is hard to imagine
some parralel event to the James 1st era in the future, but who knows.



Nostradramus letter to his son, quote:"and resembling fire from some
flashing
cataclysm, and suddenly illumined (LUMINARY) the house as if it were
caught in a
furnace. Which is why I reduced them to ashes then, so that none might
be
tempted to use occult labours in searching for the perfect
transmutation,
whether *****lunar**** or solar.....)

------------------------------------


Nah, this is merely the description of the fire that burnt the books he
destroyed... probably because the covers were made of some special
substance.

The sole purpose of that section was not to give an interpreation of
the phrase but to find meaning in the word luminary and lunar... and
so that the meaning can then be transposed into the other quatrains
above.

See http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e29 :

---------------------------------------------------------------------
29. Et c=F4bien que, celle occulte Philosophie ne fusse reprouu=E9e, n'ay=

onques

volu presenter leurs effren=E9es persuations: c=F4bien que plusieurs volu=

mes gui

ont est=E9 cach=E9s par long siecles ne sont est=E9s manifest=E9s.

And although this occult philosophy is not outcast, I have not wanted to
elaborate on its tremendous power of persuasion, even though many reveali=

ng

books, hidden during long centuries, have fallen into my hands.

NOTE: Nostradamus would have thus consulted certain secular manuscripts,
refering to judiciary astrology, from which he would have derived his
science.

30. Mais doutant ce qui aduiendroit en ay faict apres la lecture, present=

=E0

Vulcan, que ce pendaut qu'il les venoit =E0 deuorer la fl=E2me leschant l=

'air

rendoit vne dart=E9 insolite, plus claire que naturelle flamme, comme lum=

iere

de feu de clistre fulgurant illuminant subit la maison, comme si elle fust
est=E9 en subite conflagration.

But fearing what would become, after the reading, I offered them as a
present to Vulcan, and while he was devouring them, the flame licking the=

m,

the air took an unwonted brightness, brighter than the normal flame, like
the light of the flashing thunder lighting suddenly the house, as if it h=

ad

been at the center of a conflagration.

NOTE: Despite this shameful gesture, one must understand that Nostradamus
was just complying to the directives of the Church which, itself, burned
with zeal anything that could threaten the traditional faith.

31. Parquoy afin que =E0 l'aduenir ne fusses abus=E9, perscrutant la parf=

aicte

tr=E2sformation, tant seline solaire, & soubz terre metaulx incorruptible=

s &

aux vndes occultes, les ay en cendres conuertis

And in order that in the future you may not be abused, searching the perf=

ect

transmutation, in silver as much as in gold, searching the earth and the
seas for incorruptible metals, I have preferred to convert them to ashes.

NOTE: From what he tells us, these ancients manuscripts would have also b=

ear

down upon alchemy and upon those reprehensible practices that were mentio=

ned

in paragraph 27, which would provide a certain justification to his guilty
gesture.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

J.

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 19 Mar 2007 07:14:19 AM
On Mar 19, 3:19 am, "g...@hotmail.com" <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jean Guernon wrote:

<g...@hotmail.com> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
1173969980.792379.202...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

Perhaps they are America & Britain or two individuals instead?


Nostradamus' ***ORACLE*** must be that Europe's First Nuclear Site in
Scotland (Polaris)
..... will ALSO be the First Logistic Site to be Nuclear Demolished by
Persia's Iran and the Antichrist.


..... and then Europe's New Poland & Slovakian Nuclear defense sites
will also be demolished by Iran.


Just recent news at:
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/international/ticker/detail/U_S_lobbies_.=

..=2E


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just recent news: "Blair Wins Vote to Renew Atom Arsenal" using
American-supplied nuclear Trident missiles (new version of the Polaris
missiles)


The 1963 Polaris Sales Agreement which was modified in 1982 for
Trident
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_missile).


( Blair win's vote at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/world/europe/15britain.html?_r=3D2&o=

r=2E..

)
---------------------------------------------------------------------=

--


Nostradamus' quatrains are:


10.66
The London premier through American power
will burden the island of Scotland with a cold thing (1963's Polaris
Nuclear Missiles).
Reb the King will have so dreadful an antichrist
who will bring them all into trouble.


Not exactly what the quatrain says:


http://www.propheties.it/no/decima%20centuria/c10q66.htm


It says that the Scotish 'Island' will be 'iced' by frost.


Albeit this is a difficult quatrain and does speak of an antichrist to =

come,

it may not refer to Canada as originally thought because of Americh, bu=

t to

Scotland, because of 5,93 which is about a past event of this region, b=

ut

calls it also an island but this one above will have to be verified in =

many

decades, in what I call the era of the antichrists, as although the next
world war will indeed be led by an Iranian, he will not be an antichris=

t (as

described in the letter to Henri II - who will come long after the third
world war), but he will nonetheless be the third men of the three (as p=

er

the Letter to his son) who will put the world into turmoil (the two oth=

ers

being Napoleon adn Hitler).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Sales_Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_missile
Quote: "Under the Nassau agreement that emerged from the 1962 Nassau
Conference between Harold Macmillan and John F. Kennedy, the United
States would supply Britain with Polaris missiles"


-----------------------------------


NOSTRADAMUS NUCLEAR *****ORACLE****** (quatrains 3.4, 3.5 and 5.93)


Quatrain 3,4


When they will be close the lunar ones will fail (lunar =3D ski missi=

les

will fail/demolished),

From one another not greatly distant (=3D all missile sites demolished

simulatenously),
Cold, dryness, danger towards the frontiers (frontiers =3Dfront defen=

se

sites =3D missile sites),
Even where the ***ORACLE**** has had its beginning. (Scotland's
POLARIS site was the beginning =3D initial nuclear missile defense/
offense site and still the same site).


http://www.propheties.it/no/terza%20centuria/c3q4.htm


First, here the lunar ones is about Islamists. Second, given the precee=

ding

remarks, this would be a quatrain based on the false premise of another=

.. Not

very likely. The oracle indicates an event more likely coming from Irak=

and

one of its neighbor, but the cold and dryness at the frontiers 'may' be
indicative of the use of nukes.


Quatrain 3,5
Near, far the failure of the two great luminaries (two missiles sites
in 3.4)
Which will occur between April and March.
Oh, what a loss! but two great good-natured ones (The two heroes of
10.63)
By land and sea will relieve all parts.


This one may be about the use of nukes, since the first line really is =

about

the eclipse of the sun and the moon, something that can hardly happen
outside nukes that would surround the atmosphere with particles that wo=

uld

block their light


The hidden revealed: Nostradamus refers them as "two heroes" and "two
great good-natured ones". The missiles and nuclear attack as
lunars(ski missiles) and luminaries in his quatrains (below here).


Quatrains 10.61 to 10.66's Polaris are linked and foretell the Two
Heroes of the Coming Nuclear Holocaust.


Quatrain 10,63 (see 10.66 above for Reb the King and his son the
Antichrist)
Cydonia (GREECE), Ragusa (ITALY), the city of St. Jerome(France),
With healing (all Europe) help to grow green again (after war
devastation):
The King's son dead (Antichrist son of Reb the King) because of the
death of *two heroes*,
Araby and Hungary (Iran's Persian Empire)will take the same course.


http://www.propheties.it/no/decima%20centuria/c10q61.htm
10,61 indeed would concern the next word war, but would be the uncoveri=

ng of

an Islamist conspiration conspiracy from different proponent of this fa=

ith

aiming at abandoning Hyngary to the Islamic forces, which would be unco=

vered

by some entity identified as 'la matrone' which could be some secret se=

rvice

in Rome or more likely in France (Marne).


--------------------------------------
Quatrain 5,93
Under the land of the round lunar globe,
When Mercury will be dominating:
The isle of Scotland will produce a luminary,
One who will put the English into confusion.


(Iran nuke missiles will destroy Polaris missiles =3D luminary see
quatrain 3.4 above which describes nuke missiles as lunar =3D luminar=

ies

=3D ski missiles....when Persia Iran's missiles hit Scotland's Polaris
they will light up the sky as luminaires).


It can be hardly about astrological position...


This one seems to be about the past, and refers to the victory of Scotl=

and

over England under James 1st.
http://www.propheties.it/no/quinta%20centuria/c5q93.htm


The luminary is often about gold or silver or religious confrontations,=

and

there is reason to believe the one raised in Scotland could be in relat=

ion

to the revolt against the imposition of the Anglican hierarchy to the
Scottish.


Still, because of the specificity of the first line and second line, wh=

ich

may refer to some specific occurence in some Islamic state, it could in=

deed

be about more than just England and Scotland although it appears to be a
distinct simultaneous event. But on the other hand, it is hard to imagi=

ne

some parralel event to the James 1st era in the future, but who knows.


Nostradramus letter to his son, quote:"and resembling fire from some
flashing
cataclysm, and suddenly illumined (LUMINARY) the house as if it were
caught in a
furnace. Which is why I reduced them to ashes then, so that none might
be
tempted to use occult labours in searching for the perfect
transmutation,
whether *****lunar**** or solar.....)


------------------------------------


Nah, this is merely the description of the fire that burnt the books he
destroyed... probably because the covers were made of some special
substance.


The sole purpose of that section was not to give an interpreation of
the phrase but to find meaning in the word luminary and lunar... and
so that the meaning can then be transposed into the other quatrains
above.

Seehttp://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e29:


---------------------------------------------------------------------
29. Et c=F4bien que, celle occulte Philosophie ne fusse reprouu=E9e, n'=

ay onques

volu presenter leurs effren=E9es persuations: c=F4bien que plusieurs vo=

lumes gui

ont est=E9 cach=E9s par long siecles ne sont est=E9s manifest=E9s.


And although this occult philosophy is not outcast, I have not wanted to
elaborate on its tremendous power of persuasion, even though many revea=

ling

books, hidden during long centuries, have fallen into my hands.


NOTE: Nostradamus would have thus consulted certain secular manuscripts,
refering to judiciary astrology, from which he would have derived his
science.


30. Mais doutant ce qui aduiendroit en ay faict apres la lecture, prese=

nt =E0

Vulcan, que ce pendaut qu'il les venoit =E0 deuorer la fl=E2me leschant=

l'air

rendoit vne dart=E9 insolite, plus claire que naturelle flamme, comme l=

umiere

de feu de clistre fulgurant illuminant subit la maison, comme si elle f=

ust

est=E9 en subite conflagration.


But fearing what would become, after the reading, I offered them as a
present to Vulcan, and while he was devouring them, the flame licking t=

hem,

the air took an unwonted brightness, brighter than the normal flame, li=

ke

the light of the flashing thunder lighting suddenly the house, as if it=

had

been at the center of a conflagration.


NOTE: Despite this shameful gesture, one must understand that Nostradam=

us

was just complying to the directives of the Church which, itself, burned
with zeal anything that could threaten the traditional faith.


31. Parquoy afin que =E0 l'aduenir ne fusses abus=E9, perscrutant la pa=

rfaicte

tr=E2sformation, tant seline solaire, & soubz terre metaulx incorruptib=

les &

aux vndes occultes, les ay en cendres conuertis


And in order that in the future you may not be abused, searching the pe=

rfect

transmutation, in silver as much as in gold, searching the earth and the
seas for incorruptible metals, I have preferred to convert them to ashe=

s=2E


NOTE: From what he tells us, these ancients manuscripts would have also=

bear

down upon alchemy and upon those reprehensible practices that were ment=

ioned

in paragraph 27, which would provide a


...

read more =BB

Mostly basing your prognostications, on your assumptions, perhaps you
should try and work out a chronology; of events and just maybe the
baggage will diminish for you to get a clearer picture.
Never mind the trivia Britain and the US will not be defeated at home,
though the result will be the same.
LB
.


User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 17 Mar 2007 02:14:33 PM
On Mar 17, 5:29?pm, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
About a prediction.
Well, I don't normally deal in Nostradamus, but I ought to mention
something here.
It looks more like 'ROY REB', not ROI REB to me.
I don't know wht people talk about matters modern so much. Many of
these 'predictions' could well have gone by now.
Instead of wondering about kings of Scotland, perhaps some thought
should be directed to the famous outlaw from Scotland, born about 1670
and who was called ROB ROY.
Seems a more reasonable interpretation, if interpretation you must
have.
Werewolfy
.
User: "Claude Latremouille"

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 17 Mar 2007 06:14:04 PM
*
On 17 Mar 2007 12:14:33 -0700, "Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote about quatrain X-66:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
--------------------------- L X V I. -------------------------
----------- Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh, ----------
----------- L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee: ------------
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
----------- Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee. ----------
*

Well, I don't normally deal in Nostradamus, but I ought to mention
something here.

It looks more like 'ROY REB', not ROI REB to me.

*
Indeed, it does indeed 'look like':
*
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
*
Two subjects, (1) "Roy" and (2) "Reb", produce a verb "auront" in
the plural form, which is quite normal.
*

I don't know wht people talk about matters modern so much. Many of
these 'predictions' could well have gone by now.

*
That one surely is gone by now; in fact it became a past
prediction on... September 1, 1939.
*

Instead of wondering about kings of Scotland, perhaps some thought
should be directed to the famous outlaw from Scotland, born about 1670
and who was called ROB ROY.

Seems a more reasonable interpretation, if interpretation you must
have.

Werewolfy

*
The problem with that interpretation is that it eliminates one of
the two subjects in line 3, but does not eliminate the verb in
the plural form. So, if one accepts that view, we are left with a
verb in the plural form which is lacking one of its two subjects.
*
In case you might be interested in what other French authors have
said concerning this weird line 3, which contains a word which
does not exist in French (i.e., Reb), here goes:
*
"Roy" stands for the King of England (referred to in line 1).
*
"Reb" stands for a very weird contraction of the Latin expression
"REs puBlica", meaning the Republic, meaning France.
*
So, if one accepts that view, the line starts making good sense,
as it can read: 'England and France shall have a so false
antichrist'... followed by line 4 '...who shall plunge them all
into battle.'
*
Which happened September 1, 1939, after the first trip of a
reigning English King to America (line 1), a trip made much more
difficult by fog and floating ice coming from the North, ice
islands in fact, just as Scotland is to England a Northern land
(line 2), a very stretched meaning I admit, but one which makes
all this nonsense acquire some sense, after all.
*
But to get this, one has to be *very* intelligent.
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
March 17, 2007
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
*
===
===
=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
===========================
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Nostradamus' TWO HEROES of the coming Nuclear Holocaust! 18 Mar 2007 12:03:18 PM
On Mar 17, 3:14 pm, "Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Mar 17, 5:29?pm, "Jean Guernon" <jguer...@globetrotter.net> wrote:
About a prediction.

Well, I don't normally deal in Nostradamus, but I ought to mention
something here.

It looks more like 'ROY REB', not ROI REB to me.

I don't know wht people talk about matters modern so much. Many of
these 'predictions' could well have gone by now.

Instead of wondering about kings of Scotland, perhaps some thought
should be directed to the famous outlaw from Scotland, born about 1670
and who was called ROB ROY.

Seems a more reasonable interpretation, if interpretation you must
have.

Werewolfy

Good approach but there wasn't even an american president back then so
it couldn't be about him.
.




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