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"The Mongolian Death Worm" |
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21 Sep 2006 09:58:17 AM |
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Obese women less likely to breastfeed their infants - Study |
Obese mums 'breastfeed less'
September 19, 2006,
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20437786-29277,00.html
OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to
keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an
Australian study shows.
Dr Wendy Hazel Oddy of the Telethon Institute for Child Health Research
in Perth and colleagues looked at 1803 children and their mothers who
took part in a large pregnancy study.
Eighteen per cent of the women were overweight or obese before becoming
pregnant.
After the researchers adjusted for factors including socioeconomic
status and years of education, they found that women who were
overweight or obese were less apt to attempt breastfeeding at all and
those that did were less likely to continue breastfeeding.
Obese women were about twice as likely to have breastfed for less than
two months or less than four months, while overweight women were 52 per
cent more likely than normal weight women to have stopped breastfeeding
before two months, and 62 per cent more likely to have stopped before
four months.
Overall, the researchers found, overweight or obese women were 76 per
cent more likely to stop breastfeeding before their infants were six
months old than their normal weight peers.
A number of factors could help explain the findings, the investigators
said.
For example, excess weight may change a woman's hormonal profile,
making sustained lactation more difficult, or it may be harder for an
infant to "latch on" to breast tissue if the mother is overweight or
obese.
The researchers also report that overweight and obese women were more
likely to have pregnancy complications and C-sections than
normal-weight women.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20437786-29277,00.html
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22 Sep 2006 08:40:59 PM |
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"The Mongolian Death Worm" <normankwebster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Obese mums 'breastfeed less'
OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to
keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an
Australian study shows.
When I see one of these things I always wonder.... aren't breast feeding
moms less likely to be obese in the first place? Doesn't breast feeding use
lots of calories?
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JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
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| User: "Thriceshy" |
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| Title: Re: Obese women less likely to breastfeed their infants - Study |
24 Sep 2006 09:48:34 AM |
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Breastfeeding burns up around 500 calories a day, so yes, a woman who
nurses is less likely to be heavy. Other issues, like the rate of
c-sections in heavier women, are also influential. Overweight women
are more likely to deliver via section, and both sections and the drugs
used during sections are known to interfere with breastfeeding starts.
I'm an anomoly, apparently--I was heavy when I delivered, delivered via
c-section (after 40 hours of labor), and went on to nurse my child for
almost two years.
Kris
glassman wrote:
"The Mongolian Death Worm" <normankwebster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158850697.219292.27340@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Obese mums 'breastfeed less'
OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to
keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an
Australian study shows.
When I see one of these things I always wonder.... aren't breast feeding
moms less likely to be obese in the first place? Doesn't breast feeding use
lots of calories?
--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
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| User: "The Operator" |
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| Title: Re: Obese women less likely to breastfeed their infants - Study |
24 Sep 2006 02:43:18 PM |
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"Thriceshy" <Headsnortails@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Breastfeeding burns up around 500 calories a day, so yes, a woman who
nurses is less likely to be heavy. Other issues, like the rate of
c-sections in heavier women, are also influential. Overweight women
are more likely to deliver via section, and both sections and the drugs
used during sections are known to interfere with breastfeeding starts.
I'm an anomoly, apparently--I was heavy when I delivered, delivered via
c-section (after 40 hours of labor), and went on to nurse my child for
almost two years.
Kris
I nursed my daughter for one year when she decided that being mobile was
more fun than nursing. She is still hyper at 19. I was a little overweight
when I delivered and had an emergency C-section after 53 hours of labor.
Diane
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| User: "Thriceshy" |
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25 Sep 2006 07:47:30 AM |
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That's excellent!
Kris
The Operator wrote:
"Thriceshy" <Headsnortails@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159109314.649577.114780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Breastfeeding burns up around 500 calories a day, so yes, a woman who
nurses is less likely to be heavy. Other issues, like the rate of
c-sections in heavier women, are also influential. Overweight women
are more likely to deliver via section, and both sections and the drugs
used during sections are known to interfere with breastfeeding starts.
I'm an anomoly, apparently--I was heavy when I delivered, delivered via
c-section (after 40 hours of labor), and went on to nurse my child for
almost two years.
Kris
I nursed my daughter for one year when she decided that being mobile was
more fun than nursing. She is still hyper at 19. I was a little overweight
when I delivered and had an emergency C-section after 53 hours of labor.
Diane
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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25 Sep 2006 08:46:07 AM |
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Thriceshy wrote:
That's excellent!
What a disgusting, nauseating discussion.
My God. England has changed into a Nation of huge fat women pushing a
brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like
bloody spacecraft.
The 'little darlings' screech constantly, their adoring blubbery
slovenly mothers screech back at them..Hell, the Streets are filled
with bloody screeching. It's like a zoo.
Not for you mothers are there any rules governing how you push your
gross little trolls about, oh no...just crash through and demand
priority. Covered in foul perfume, you leave a trail of unbreathable
gases as revolting as the slime left behind a snail.
Fat acceptance? That's the trouble. You accept your repulsive
appearance and try to justify it by replacing shame with pride.
Just look at those breasts you are discussing. My God, they are like
the udders on a cow.
Lose weight by eating less. Take some pride in yourself and for
Christ's sake stop patronising one-another.
Werewolfy
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| User: "glassman" |
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25 Sep 2006 10:26:49 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Thriceshy wrote:
That's excellent!
What a disgusting, nauseating discussion.
My God. England has changed into a Nation of huge fat women pushing a
brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like
bloody spacecraft.
Assuming you are being serious, I'll give you the obvious answer. It's
the squeaky wheel syndrome. The quiet and thin, unassuming moms and kids
don't really get your attention do they? All it takes is the few barnyard
animals out of thousands of "oil painting" folks that are coloring your
opinion. Most women are wonderful with perfectly gorgeous breasts.
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JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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26 Sep 2006 03:52:34 AM |
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glassman wrote:
Assuming you are being serious, I'll give you the obvious answer. It's
the squeaky wheel syndrome. The quiet and thin, unassuming moms and kids
don't really get your attention do they? All it takes is the few barnyard
animals out of thousands of "oil painting" folks that are coloring your
opinion. Most women are wonderful with perfectly gorgeous breasts.
Oh yes,that's a problem I have, Glass.. I'm always serious...too
serious.
Good point though. Yes, attention is naturally drawn to the freaks, the
mountains lumbering along, the screeching of thir brood.
But it's the percentage I find frightening. It simply wasn't this way
18 years ago. It's not just the isolated case of mobile repulsion now,
there are so many of them. There has been an explosion in size coupled
with a contemperaneous reduction in politeness since my leaving here in
1988. Today, England is a very different Country. Incidently, the
fruits of the 70/80's 'new' style of teaching in schools is also
evident. These are today's adults and few indeed are capable of
addition without using their fingers..either to count with, or to press
buttons on a machine.
Looking and listening to people in the street, I've heard Barbary apes
communicating more efficiently..and more interestingly.
You are right though. These people do attract attention, and yes, there
are many normal people.
Sadly, I know I am correct about those percentages. I wish it were not
so, but a wander through the town is all that is needed to see how,
well, how unpleasent many of the residents have become.
Werewolfy
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| User: "The Operator" |
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25 Sep 2006 09:03:52 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com> wrote in message
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Thriceshy wrote:
That's excellent!
What a disgusting, nauseating discussion.
My God. England has changed into a Nation of huge fat women pushing a
brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like
bloody spacecraft.
The 'little darlings' screech constantly, their adoring blubbery
slovenly mothers screech back at them..Hell, the Streets are filled
with bloody screeching. It's like a zoo.
Not for you mothers are there any rules governing how you push your
gross little trolls about, oh no...just crash through and demand
priority. Covered in foul perfume, you leave a trail of unbreathable
gases as revolting as the slime left behind a snail.
Fat acceptance? That's the trouble. You accept your repulsive
appearance and try to justify it by replacing shame with pride.
Just look at those breasts you are discussing. My God, they are like
the udders on a cow.
Lose weight by eating less. Take some pride in yourself and for
Christ's sake stop patronising one-another.
Werewolfy
Breast feeding is the most natural and healthy thing a mother can do for her
baby. It doesn't matter whether the mother is underweight or overweight,
breast feeding is always better for the baby.
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| User: "Ragnar" |
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25 Sep 2006 11:53:20 AM |
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Werewolfy wrote:
Thriceshy wrote:
That's excellent!
What a disgusting, nauseating discussion.
Agreed,
My God. England has changed into a Nation of huge fat women pushing a
brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like
bloody spacecraft.
The 'little darlings' screech constantly, their adoring blubbery
slovenly mothers screech back at them..Hell, the Streets are filled
with bloody screeching. It's like a zoo.
Sounds to me like the problems you are describing are more based in the
moral, ethical and social attitudes of this new generation of western
youth. You see it in countries where attitudes of entitlement have over
taken work ethic and social graces. It also seems to be most evident in
countries where large portions of the population rely on governmental
subsidies to keep them in relative comfort.
The zoo comment was funny though.
Not for you mothers are there any rules governing how you push your
gross little trolls about, oh no...just crash through and demand
priority. Covered in foul perfume, you leave a trail of unbreathable
gases as revolting as the slime left behind a snail.
Again obesity may only be a symptom of this larger issue. Fat woman
have been having children for generations and until recently, overall
they did not exhibit this kind of slobbish behavior.
Fat acceptance? That's the trouble. You accept your repulsive
appearance and try to justify it by replacing shame with pride.
Fat acceptance is about accepting individuals for who and what they are
regardless of weight. Because lets face it, a person is the same person
whether they're thin or fat. If a person behaves in a slobbish
manner, it makes little difference what they weigh. If you are basing
your appraisal of people based on their outward appearance then you are
an incredibly shallow creature. Actions make the individual and
environmental influences dictate an individuals overall character.
Just look at those breasts you are discussing. My God, they are like
the udders on a cow.
Just how many fat woman's breast have you seen up close???
Lose weight by eating less. Take some pride in yourself and for
Christ's sake stop patronising one-another.
Eating less is not always the answer. Most times it is your level of
aerobic activity that dictates weight loss. Most of the fat woman that
I have had the pleasure of knowing do take great pride in the
appearance especially since they already know they are at a perceived
social disadvantage compared to there thinner counterparts.
BTW, nobody is patronizing anyone here. It seems to be more of a
gathering together in defense of misplaced criticism.
Ragnar
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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25 Sep 2006 01:03:12 PM |
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Ragnar wrote:
BTW, nobody is patronizing anyone here. It seems to be more of a
gathering together in defense of misplaced criticism.
Ragnar
Nicely worded and responded, Ragnar.
Perhaps it is, 'just me'. I lived in the South of France for the last
18 years, and have been back in England for a few months. The
difference in the Nation is remarkable.
Tattoed women wearing mini-tops which have layers of blubber hanging
out over their skin-tight trousers, trousers that emphasise their
grotesque shape, do little to fire the soul.
By and large, it is the less...educated, the less 'gentile' woman who
parades herself thus. Incidently, I have travelled extensively, and I
have never seen mothers scream so much, and so often at their children.
In consequence, the ugly little bratts also scream. Behaviour and
consideration are qualities that have erroded beyond belief in the past
18 years.
There exist some larger women who have 'class'. I have to say that
obesity remains the curse of the loud-mouthed, the burden of the ugly
and tattoed creatures that laughingly try to pass themselves off as
'Ladies'.
But there are so many of them! Even the pavements are filled with fat
people on electric wheelchairs...too idle to walk...who vie with the
grotesque, ill-mannered Harpies who appear around every corner, pushing
their space vehicles filled with the spoiled loud indisciplined brats
that I shudder to think of as the future generation.
But you make good points.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Ragnar" |
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25 Sep 2006 03:18:35 PM |
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Werewolfy wrote:
Ragnar wrote:
BTW, nobody is patronizing anyone here. It seems to be more of a
gathering together in defense of misplaced criticism.
Ragnar
Nicely worded and responded, Ragnar.
Perhaps it is, 'just me'. I lived in the South of France for the last
18 years, and have been back in England for a few months. The
difference in the Nation is remarkable.
If what you are saying is actually the case, then what has happened
socially in the UK in the past 10 years is rather alarming. It seems
the bad portions of American cultural influence has really exploded
among the British youth. Why this has happened so suddenly I really
can't say. But it has happened her in the U.S. as well. Almost
everyone here seems to have forgotten that they are not the only people
on the planet and with few exceptions have developed an obnoxious me
first at all costs attitude. But blaming this on fat people is really
not dealing with the situation realistically.
BTW I don't want to sound clich=E9 but my experience with the French
has not always been pleasant either, especially when the sweat. But
then again many of the Europeans I've worked with have been guilty of
hygiene flaws. Generally nice people but....
Tattoed women wearing mini-tops which have layers of blubber hanging
out over their skin-tight trousers, trousers that emphasise their
grotesque shape, do little to fire the soul.
I quite agree. I like the fuller female figure BUT today's young
girls have absolutely no shape. ***** crack exposing pants, a flat *****
and huge love handles have become the signature calling card of most
girls the U.S. population. Even for the average FA it is disheartening.
I also agree with you regarding the tattoo issue. One or two tasteful
small ones in the right area can be sexy. But most of the body art I
see today looks like it was applied with a felt tipped marker by a half
blind housepainter. Most are completely devoid of color or imagination
and amount to nothing more than tramp stamps.
By and large, it is the less...educated, the less 'gentile' woman who
parades herself thus. Incidently, I have travelled extensively, and I
have never seen mothers scream so much, and so often at their children.
In consequence, the ugly little bratts also scream. Behaviour and
consideration are qualities that have erroded beyond belief in the past
18 years.
There is the difference between the uncouth U.S. mother and her Brit.
Counterpart. The lower class U.S. mom just ignores her screaming brat
and gives in to what ever it wants. Permissiveness and neglect seems to
be the rule here.
There exist some larger women who have 'class'. I have to say that
Thank you for admitting that. You can't even begin to believe how many
people are blind to that fact.
obesity remains the curse of the loud-mouthed, the burden of the ugly
and tattoed creatures that laughingly try to pass themselves off as
'Ladies'.
I don't even think they even TRY to pass themselves off as ladies. I
think the whole notion of ladylike behavior is a foreign concept to
them. To the uncouth pigs that populate the English and U.S.
countryside ladylike behavior is a joke to be scorned.
But there are so many of them! Even the pavements are filled with fat
people on electric wheelchairs...too idle to walk...
Its not that they are to idle to walk, they're too heavy to walk. As
I stated before, this growth in obesity is only a symptom of a much
larger concern. Fat people have been with us for centuries; it is only
recently that this profusion of supersized individuals has hit our
society. How you ever noticed the rise in adult as well as childhood
obesity coincides with the rise in the use of and the dependence on the
PC.
who vie with the
grotesque, ill-mannered Harpies who appear around every corner, pushing
their space vehicles filled with the spoiled loud indisciplined brats
that I shudder to think of as the future generation.
At least over they're the women push their fat kids around in
strollers and get some exercise. Over here they drive them around is
some sort of vehicular aberration known as a "mini-van". Just how
bad do think life has to get before you consider being seen in one of
those pieces of *****.
As for worrying about the future generation, who cares, I'll be dead
by then and come to think of it so will they.
Ragnar
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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25 Sep 2006 04:22:50 PM |
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Ragnar wrote:
"But most of the body art I see today looks like it was applied with a
felt tipped marker by a half blind housepainter."
I liked that. Sorry, but I'm going to have to file it away for future
use!
I've read you replies carefully, Ragnar. We express our findings from
opposite sides of the ocean and have a certain agreement.. with
reservations and additional arguements entering the conversation. Sound
points that all merit examination.
I've heard of that hygene criticism of French people before, and always
thought it strange. Perhaps it applies only when they are away from
France? Whatever, I found in all of the time that I lived there
(Toulouse) they were an exceptional consciencious race of clean people.
Despite very hot summer temperatures, body odour and sweat is not a
thing encountered. Still...judge as you find I suppose.
It's no doubt because I have suddenly returned, that I find these
changes so marked. They are the sort of things that creep into Society,
without that Society being too aware of it. I wrote my initial post in
this thread after returning from spending an hour in town, and not
really liking the experience at all.
Perhaps I'm looking for Suzi Quatro (as she was in the 70's) Perhaps I
am just startled by the changes.
You have a suprising skill with posting, (for a Colonial) Ragnar. ;)
Noted..and appreciated.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Ragnar" |
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26 Sep 2006 10:51:25 AM |
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Werewolfy wrote:
Ragnar wrote:
"But most of the body art I see today looks like it was applied with a
felt tipped marker by a half blind housepainter."
I liked that. Sorry, but I'm going to have to file it away for future
use!
Glad you appreciated it, but it is a shame that it is the truth. Most
of these young slobs will have these embarrassing, misshapen, blobs of
blue ink on their person until the day they die.
I've heard of that hygene criticism of French people before, and always
thought it strange. Perhaps it applies only when they are away from
France? Whatever, I found in all of the time that I lived there
(Toulouse) they were an exceptional consciencious race of clean people.
Despite very hot summer temperatures, body odour and sweat is not a
thing encountered. Still...judge as you find I suppose.
I'm not going to dispute the fact that the French and many other
Europeans have very clean personal habits. But in my experience and for
whatever reason, sometimes they seem to overlook the deodorant aspect
of the equation. Here in the U.S. that is almost unthinkable.
Especially when you work in a professional atmosphere. But it appears
that your experience was different than mine. Maybe it's a regional
thing.
It's no doubt because I have suddenly returned, that I find these
changes so marked. They are the sort of things that creep into Society,
without that Society being too aware of it. I wrote my initial post in
this thread after returning from spending an hour in town, and not
really liking the experience at all.
Your concerns about the level of rudeness and the prevalence of ill
manners are very valid. I feel as a society we are far too tolerant of
this type of behavior. I also feel that in many cases these individuals
that you describe simply do not know any better. They're too caught
up in their own little world to realize how much their obnoxious
presents affect the rest of us. The balance of these creatures are
products of permissive parenting and failed governmental policies that
continue to breed more of the same.
Perhaps I'm looking for Suzi Quatro (as she was in the 70's)
That took some balls to admit. But seriously, it's not a complete
loss, you just have to sharpen your eye and look harder. Just be
careful you don't go blind in the process.
You have a suprising skill with posting, (for a Colonial) Ragnar. ;)
Colonial?... Yeah well, thank god for the "White Mans Burden".
Ragnar
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| User: "Dusty" |
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21 Sep 2006 10:29:01 AM |
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The Mongolian Death Worm wrote:
Obese mums 'breastfeed less'
September 19, 2006,
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20437786-29277,00.html
OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to
keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an
Australian study shows.
Excuse me? Around six months those baby teeth start coming in. If you
want to breastfeed then...well, let the daddy do it. Good grief.
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| User: "Thriceshy" |
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21 Sep 2006 05:38:44 PM |
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Teething isn't a problem in a healthy nursing relationship. Normal
nursing relationships often last two years or more, and I assure you
those women are not staggering around nippleless due to bites.
Kris
Dusty wrote:
The Mongolian Death Worm wrote:
Obese mums 'breastfeed less'
September 19, 2006,
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20437786-29277,00.html
OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to
keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an
Australian study shows.
Excuse me? Around six months those baby teeth start coming in. If you
want to breastfeed then...well, let the daddy do it. Good grief.
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