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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "TonyZ2001"
Date: 17 Jul 2004 05:06:25 PM
Object: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush
Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said he
would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had
adequate intelligence of a threat.
Kerry on Friday offered some support for one of the most controversial aspects
of President Bush's national security policy, even as he criticized the
president for not reforming intelligence agencies after the Sept. 11, 2001
terrorist attacks.
"Am I prepared as president to go get them before they get us if we locate them
and have the sufficient intelligence? You bet I am," he said at a news
conference at his Washington headquarters.
The Bush administration laid out the doctrine of pre-emption months before the
Iraq war began in March 2003. It argued that the United States cannot rely on
its vast arsenal to deter attacks and must be willing to strike first against
potential threats. Critics of the policy say the Iraq war shows how the country
could be driven to war by flawed intelligence.
Kerry said the intelligence needs to be improved so that the word of a U.S.
president "is good enough for people across the world again."
But he added, "I will never allow any other country to veto what we need to do
and I will never allow any other institution to veto what we need to do to
protect our nation."
Bush-Cheney campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt complained that Kerry proposed
cuts in intelligence spending while in the Senate. "John Kerry's attack is
another example of his flailing efforts to defend a record that is out of the
mainstream," Schmidt said.
Kerry spoke one week after the Senate Intelligence Committee sharply criticized
prewar intelligence on whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. The
report did not address Bush's role, but Kerry said, "as commander in chief, the
president of the United States must take responsibility for what happens on his
or her watch."
The four-term Massachusetts senator said that nearly three years after the
Sept. 11 attacks, "this president has not taken action sufficient to fix the
intelligence problems that have plagued us."
Outlining his own proposals, Kerry repeated his call for creating a director of
central intelligence who would oversee all facets of the nation's intelligence
operations. He also proposed at least doubling spending for clandestine
operations, improving interagency coordination and accelerating reforms at the
FBI to improve its handling of domestic intelligence.
But Kerry stopped short of supporting a proposal by his running mate, Sen. John
Edwards of North Carolina, to create a new domestic intelligence agency similar
to the British MI5 agency. Supporters of a new agency say the FBI has been more
concerned historically about criminal investigations than intelligence;
opponents fear a domestic spy agency threatening Americans' privacy.
Edwards made it clear later at a Democratic fund-raiser in Los Angeles that he
had backed away from that approach, proposed during last winter's primary
elections, and that Kerry's plan was "our plan."
He said the plan was "just plain common sense."
"It's been almost three hears since 9/11. It won't take us three years to put
the reforms in place," Edwards vowed.
07/17/04 17:24 EDT
.

User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 18 Jul 2004 06:11:57 PM
In article <20040717180625.06859.00001695@mb-m13.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said he
would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had
adequate intelligence of a threat.

The key phrase, of course, is "adequate intelligence", which Bush did not have,
and Bush *knew* he did not have.
Not that it matters - Kerry will be another one-term president if he's elected.
People are only voting for him to get rid of Bush.
Woods
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 05:22:06 AM

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said he
would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had
adequate intelligence of a threat.

The key phrase, of course, is "adequate >intelligence", which Bush did not
have, and Bush *knew* he did not have.

*****, there was no reason to doubt the overall intelligence of the
situation in Iraq. It was backed up by years of reports from numerous countries
and the UN.
Kerry and Edwards agreed with the President and were privy to the same info.

Not that it matters - Kerry will be another >one-term president if he's

elected.

People are only voting for him to get rid of >Bush.
Woods

Gee, that makes a whole lot of sense.
Tony
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 05:31:23 PM
In article <20040719062206.15071.00000087@mb-m02.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

(TonyZ2001) wrote:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said he
would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had
adequate intelligence of a threat.


The key phrase, of course, is "adequate >intelligence", which Bush did not
have, and Bush *knew* he did not have.


*****, there was no reason to doubt the overall intelligence of the
situation in Iraq. It was backed up by years of reports from numerous countries
and the UN.

Wrong.

Kerry and Edwards agreed with the President and were privy to the same info.

Wrong.
Woods
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 21 Jul 2004 04:53:12 AM

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said

he

would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he

had

adequate intelligence of a threat.


The key phrase, of course, is "adequate >intelligence", which Bush did not
have, and Bush *knew* he did not have.


*****, there was no reason to doubt the overall intelligence of the
situation in Iraq. It was backed up by years of reports from numerous

countries

and the UN.


Wrong.

Kerry and Edwards agreed with the President and were privy to the same info.


Wrong.

Woods

I guess you enjoying being clueless.
Tony
.
User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 21 Jul 2004 02:20:47 PM
On 21 Jul 2004 09:53:12 GMT, TonyZ2001 overjoyed me with this news:

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said

he

would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he

had

adequate intelligence of a threat.


The key phrase, of course, is "adequate >intelligence", which Bush did not
have, and Bush *knew* he did not have.


*****, there was no reason to doubt the overall intelligence of the
situation in Iraq. It was backed up by years of reports from numerous

countries

and the UN.


Wrong.

Kerry and Edwards agreed with the President and were privy to the same info.


Wrong.

Woods


I guess you enjoying being clueless.

Tony

I guess you enjoy being a complete fuckwit.
Must be because you're good it.
.





User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 17 Jul 2004 07:06:32 PM
On 17 Jul 2004 22:06:25 GMT, TonyZ2001 overjoyed me with this news:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said he
would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had
adequate intelligence of a threat.

Kerry on Friday offered some support for one of the most controversial aspects
of President Bush's national security policy, even as he criticized the
president for not reforming intelligence agencies after the Sept. 11, 2001
terrorist attacks.

"Am I prepared as president to go get them before they get us if we locate them
and have the sufficient intelligence? You bet I am," he said at a news
conference at his Washington headquarters.

The Bush administration laid out the doctrine of pre-emption months before the
Iraq war began in March 2003. It argued that the United States cannot rely on
its vast arsenal to deter attacks and must be willing to strike first against
potential threats. Critics of the policy say the Iraq war shows how the country
could be driven to war by flawed intelligence.

Kerry said the intelligence needs to be improved so that the word of a U.S.
president "is good enough for people across the world again."

But he added, "I will never allow any other country to veto what we need to do
and I will never allow any other institution to veto what we need to do to
protect our nation."

Bush-Cheney campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt complained that Kerry proposed
cuts in intelligence spending while in the Senate. "John Kerry's attack is
another example of his flailing efforts to defend a record that is out of the
mainstream," Schmidt said.

Kerry spoke one week after the Senate Intelligence Committee sharply criticized
prewar intelligence on whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. The
report did not address Bush's role, but Kerry said, "as commander in chief, the
president of the United States must take responsibility for what happens on his
or her watch."

The four-term Massachusetts senator said that nearly three years after the
Sept. 11 attacks, "this president has not taken action sufficient to fix the
intelligence problems that have plagued us."

Outlining his own proposals, Kerry repeated his call for creating a director of
central intelligence who would oversee all facets of the nation's intelligence
operations. He also proposed at least doubling spending for clandestine
operations, improving interagency coordination and accelerating reforms at the
FBI to improve its handling of domestic intelligence.

But Kerry stopped short of supporting a proposal by his running mate, Sen. John
Edwards of North Carolina, to create a new domestic intelligence agency similar
to the British MI5 agency. Supporters of a new agency say the FBI has been more
concerned historically about criminal investigations than intelligence;
opponents fear a domestic spy agency threatening Americans' privacy.

Edwards made it clear later at a Democratic fund-raiser in Los Angeles that he
had backed away from that approach, proposed during last winter's primary
elections, and that Kerry's plan was "our plan."

He said the plan was "just plain common sense."

"It's been almost three hears since 9/11. It won't take us three years to put
the reforms in place," Edwards vowed.


07/17/04 17:24 EDT

It's still a bad policy regardless.
Get a clue, Clown.
.
User: "Dr. Blunt"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 17 Jul 2004 09:46:17 PM
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote in message
news:cdceus01k2f@news3.newsguy.com...

On 17 Jul 2004 22:06:25 GMT, TonyZ2001 overjoyed me with this news:

Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry

said he

would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if

he had

adequate intelligence of a threat.

Kerry on Friday offered some support for one of the most controversial

aspects

of President Bush's national security policy, even as he criticized

the

president for not reforming intelligence agencies after the Sept. 11,

2001

terrorist attacks.

"Am I prepared as president to go get them before they get us if we

locate them

and have the sufficient intelligence? You bet I am," he said at a news
conference at his Washington headquarters.

The Bush administration laid out the doctrine of pre-emption months

before the

Iraq war began in March 2003. It argued that the United States cannot

rely on

its vast arsenal to deter attacks and must be willing to strike first

against

potential threats. Critics of the policy say the Iraq war shows how

the country

could be driven to war by flawed intelligence.

Kerry said the intelligence needs to be improved so that the word of a

U.S.

president "is good enough for people across the world again."

But he added, "I will never allow any other country to veto what we

need to do

and I will never allow any other institution to veto what we need to

do to

protect our nation."

Bush-Cheney campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt complained that Kerry

proposed

cuts in intelligence spending while in the Senate. "John Kerry's

attack is

another example of his flailing efforts to defend a record that is out

of the

mainstream," Schmidt said.

Kerry spoke one week after the Senate Intelligence Committee sharply

criticized

prewar intelligence on whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass

destruction. The

report did not address Bush's role, but Kerry said, "as commander in

chief, the

president of the United States must take responsibility for what

happens on his

or her watch."

The four-term Massachusetts senator said that nearly three years after

the

Sept. 11 attacks, "this president has not taken action sufficient to

fix the

intelligence problems that have plagued us."

Outlining his own proposals, Kerry repeated his call for creating a

director of

central intelligence who would oversee all facets of the nation's

intelligence

operations. He also proposed at least doubling spending for

clandestine

operations, improving interagency coordination and accelerating

reforms at the

FBI to improve its handling of domestic intelligence.

But Kerry stopped short of supporting a proposal by his running mate,

Sen. John

Edwards of North Carolina, to create a new domestic intelligence

agency similar

to the British MI5 agency. Supporters of a new agency say the FBI has

been more

concerned historically about criminal investigations than

intelligence;

opponents fear a domestic spy agency threatening Americans' privacy.

Edwards made it clear later at a Democratic fund-raiser in Los Angeles

that he

had backed away from that approach, proposed during last winter's

primary

elections, and that Kerry's plan was "our plan."

He said the plan was "just plain common sense."

"It's been almost three hears since 9/11. It won't take us three years

to put

the reforms in place," Edwards vowed.


07/17/04 17:24 EDT


It's still a bad policy regardless.

Get a clue, Clown.

Does this mean Tony is tacitly supporting Kerry? LOL...he looks for
support anywhere he can find it, like a john looking for a $10 *****.
Dr. Blunt ------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 18 Jul 2004 08:41:29 AM

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?

No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually supports President Bush.
Tony
.
User: "Dr. Blunt"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 03:26:07 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040718094129.22984.00001882@mb-m07.aol.com...

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually supports President Bush.

Tony

OMG ! Kerry and Edwards are on the wrong ticket ! Thanks for some more
hair-brained sewage from the mouth of this NG's foremost fanatic. It is
warmly appreciated.
Dr. Blunt ------------------Serving the Usenet's mentally fried since
1998.
.

User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 18 Jul 2004 06:12:23 PM
In article <20040718094129.22984.00001882@mb-m07.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually supports President Bush.

Wrong.
Woods
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 05:49:25 AM

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually >supports President Bush.

Wrong.
Woods

No, I'm right.
Both Kerry and Edwards were even more gung ho for the war than the President
was, both have said that they would use a" preemptive" war again if they saw it
neccessary.
You don't wven know a thing about the men you are going to vote for.
Now that's CLUELESS.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 06:41:03 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040719064925.15071.00000099@mb-m02.aol.com...

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually >supports President Bush.


Wrong.


Woods


No, I'm right.

Wrong.
.

User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 05:34:54 PM
In article <20040719064925.15071.00000099@mb-m02.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

(TonyZ2001) wrote:

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually >supports President Bush.


Wrong.


Woods


No, I'm right.

Both Kerry and Edwards were even more gung ho for the war than the President
was, both have said that they would use a" preemptive" war again if they saw it
neccessary.

They didn't have the real intelligence, just what Bush wanted them to hear. You
know, what Bush, Condi and Rumsfeld lied about to Congress and duped everyone
with - that's what they had.
Of course, since you and Bush don't want to be one o' them thar *snifffff*
intellekchualzzzz, they you shure ain't gonna be able ta figger out jus' whut an
intellekchual means when he sez sumthin' - ain't no way.


You don't wven know a thing about the men you are going to vote for.

He's not Bush, and that's enough.
Woods
.

User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 06:57:46 AM
On 19 Jul 2004 10:49:25 GMT, TonyZ2001 overjoyed me with this news:

woodswun@tepidmail.com

wrote:

tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually >supports President Bush.


Wrong.


Woods


No, I'm right.

No, you're wrong.
Can't you read?
.



User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 18 Jul 2004 02:44:35 PM
On 18 Jul 2004 13:41:29 GMT, TonyZ2001 overjoyed me with this news:

"Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

Does this mean Tony is tacitly >supporting Kerry?


No, Moron; it means that Kerry actually supports President Bush.

Tony

Wrong.
.



User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 18 Jul 2004 08:40:33 AM

Marvin The Paranoid Android >marv@HeartOfGold.com

wrote:

It's still a bad policy regardless.
Get a clue, Clown.

First of all, get your own line, whatsamatter, too stupid to think up one of
your own?
Secondly, it just exposes the hypocrisy of Kerry and all who support him.
Tony
.
User: "Dr. Blunt"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 03:37:49 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040718094033.22984.00001881@mb-m07.aol.com...

Marvin The Paranoid Android >marv@HeartOfGold.com

wrote:

It's still a bad policy regardless.


Get a clue, Clown.


First of all, get your own line, whatsamatter, too stupid to think up

one of

your own?

Secondly, it just exposes the hypocrisy of Kerry and all who support

him.


Tony

God, does this get tiring. But, oh well, if we have to keep going on and
on with Tony's "revelation" that Democrats are supporting a closet
Republican, then we must keep him entertained.
Yet, the problem with his "expose" is that, if we accept the twisted
thinking behind it, both front-runners are pushing neocon agendas. And, if
we are to go along with the bird brain Tony, it doesn't make any
difference which candidate Tony supports or I support, or anyone supports,
for the end result will be the same...a disastrous foreign policy, illegal
and unjustified mass murder, global hegemony, corporate *****-kissing greed
run rampant, environmental non-progress, increased police state, pious
fanaticism leaking into politics, ad fucking nauseam.
OK, you talked me out of it, Tony, I won't support either candidate, but
will vote for the Green Party's candidate instead (like I did for the past
3 elections).
You win...
Dr. Blunt --------Serving the Usenet's moronic madness since 1998.
.
User: "R. Foreman"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 06:30:31 PM
"Dr. Blunt Head Trauma" <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> Spat the Words

Tony


God, does this get tiring. But, oh well, if we have to keep going on and
on with Tony's "revelation" that Democrats are supporting a closet
Republican, then we must keep him entertained.
Yet, the problem with his "expose" is that, if we accept the twisted
thinking behind it, both front-runners are pushing neocon agendas. And, if
we are to go along with the bird brain Tony, it doesn't make any
difference which candidate Tony supports or I support, or anyone supports,
for the end result will be the same...a disastrous foreign policy, illegal
and unjustified mass murder, global hegemony, corporate *****-kissing greed
run rampant, environmental non-progress, increased police state, pious
fanaticism leaking into politics, ad fucking nauseam.
OK, you talked me out of it, Tony, I won't support either candidate, but
will vote for the Green Party's candidate instead

So you're voting to keep Bush in office. Now I understand why
such ignorant things fall out of your mouth.

(like I did for the past
3 elections).
You win...
Dr. Blunt --------Serving the Usenet's moronic madness since 1998.

.
User: "Dr. Blunt"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 23 Jul 2004 03:09:09 PM
"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns952BB21B2947rrfkwrantispamattbic@204.127.204.17...

"Dr. Blunt Head Trauma" <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> Spat the Words

Tony


God, does this get tiring. But, oh well, if we have to keep going on

and

on with Tony's "revelation" that Democrats are supporting a closet
Republican, then we must keep him entertained.
Yet, the problem with his "expose" is that, if we accept the twisted
thinking behind it, both front-runners are pushing neocon agendas.

And, if

we are to go along with the bird brain Tony, it doesn't make any
difference which candidate Tony supports or I support, or anyone

supports,

for the end result will be the same...a disastrous foreign policy,

illegal

and unjustified mass murder, global hegemony, corporate *****-kissing

greed

run rampant, environmental non-progress, increased police state, pious
fanaticism leaking into politics, ad fucking nauseam.
OK, you talked me out of it, Tony, I won't support either candidate,

but

will vote for the Green Party's candidate instead


So you're voting to keep Bush in office. Now I understand why
such ignorant things fall out of your mouth.

I WAS HUMORING TONY, DILL WEED. And I will vote for Kerry-Edwards while
still being a Green member, unlike I've done for the last 3 elections.
There's no way I want this dictatorial sociopath to continue doing more
damage.
Dr. Blunt----------------------------------------------------



(like I did for the past
3 elections).
You win...
Dr. Blunt --------Serving the Usenet's moronic madness since 1998.


.
User: "R. Foreman"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 24 Jul 2004 03:57:41 PM
"Dr. Blunt Skull Fracture" <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> Spat the Words


"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns952BB21B2947rrfkwrantispamattbic@204.127.204.17...

"Dr. Blunt Head Trauma" <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> Spat the Words

Tony


OK, you talked me out of it, Tony, I won't support either candidate,

but

will vote for the Green Party's candidate instead


So you're voting to keep Bush in office. Now I understand why
such ignorant things fall out of your mouth.


I WAS HUMORING TONY, DILL WEED. And I will vote for Kerry-Edwards while
still being a Green member, unlike I've done for the last 3 elections.
There's no way I want this dictatorial sociopath to continue doing more
damage.
Dr. Blunt----------------------------------------------------

Good, there may be hope for you yet, Blunt Head.



(like I did for the past
3 elections).
You win...
Dr. Blunt --------Serving the Usenet's moronic madness since 1998.




.



User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 05:50:49 AM

Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

OK, you talked me out of it, Tony, I won't support either candidate, but
will vote for the Green Party's candidate instead (like I did for the past
3 elections).
You win...
Dr. Blunt

Good, that's a lot better than you voting for Kerry.
Tony
.
User: "tw"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 19 Jul 2004 09:14:22 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040719065049.15071.00000100@mb-m02.aol.com...

Dr. Blunt"


wrote:

OK, you talked me out of it, Tony, I won't support either candidate, but
will vote for the Green Party's candidate instead (like I did for the

past

3 elections).
You win...
Dr. Blunt


Good, that's a lot better than you voting for Kerry.

...because Kerry agrees with Bush?
.





User: "Mister Spock"

Title: Re: Oh gee, Kerry would do the same as Bush 20 Jul 2004 08:36:57 AM
What did you expect from another skull and crossbones secret satanic
member>
TonyZ2001 wrote:


Updated: 05:59 PM EDT
If President, Kerry Would Launch Pre-Emptive Strike
By KEN GUGGENHEIM, AP

WASHINGTON (July 17) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said he
would be willing to launch a pre-emptive strike against terrorists if he had
adequate intelligence of a threat.

Kerry on Friday offered some support for one of the most controversial aspects
of President Bush's national security policy, even as he criticized the
president for not reforming intelligence agencies after the Sept. 11, 2001
terrorist attacks.

"Am I prepared as president to go get them before they get us if we locate them
and have the sufficient intelligence? You bet I am," he said at a news
conference at his Washington headquarters.

The Bush administration laid out the doctrine of pre-emption months before the
Iraq war began in March 2003. It argued that the United States cannot rely on
its vast arsenal to deter attacks and must be willing to strike first against
potential threats. Critics of the policy say the Iraq war shows how the country
could be driven to war by flawed intelligence.

Kerry said the intelligence needs to be improved so that the word of a U.S.
president "is good enough for people across the world again."

But he added, "I will never allow any other country to veto what we need to do
and I will never allow any other institution to veto what we need to do to
protect our nation."

Bush-Cheney campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt complained that Kerry proposed
cuts in intelligence spending while in the Senate. "John Kerry's attack is
another example of his flailing efforts to defend a record that is out of the
mainstream," Schmidt said.

Kerry spoke one week after the Senate Intelligence Committee sharply criticized
prewar intelligence on whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. The
report did not address Bush's role, but Kerry said, "as commander in chief, the
president of the United States must take responsibility for what happens on his
or her watch."

The four-term Massachusetts senator said that nearly three years after the
Sept. 11 attacks, "this president has not taken action sufficient to fix the
intelligence problems that have plagued us."

Outlining his own proposals, Kerry repeated his call for creating a director of
central intelligence who would oversee all facets of the nation's intelligence
operations. He also proposed at least doubling spending for clandestine
operations, improving interagency coordination and accelerating reforms at the
FBI to improve its handling of domestic intelligence.

But Kerry stopped short of supporting a proposal by his running mate, Sen. John
Edwards of North Carolina, to create a new domestic intelligence agency similar
to the British MI5 agency. Supporters of a new agency say the FBI has been more
concerned historically about criminal investigations than intelligence;
opponents fear a domestic spy agency threatening Americans' privacy.

Edwards made it clear later at a Democratic fund-raiser in Los Angeles that he
had backed away from that approach, proposed during last winter's primary
elections, and that Kerry's plan was "our plan."

He said the plan was "just plain common sense."

"It's been almost three hears since 9/11. It won't take us three years to put
the reforms in place," Edwards vowed.

07/17/04 17:24 EDT

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