*
Finding the correct date for a future event in cryptic anagrams
is not an easy task, as evidenced by the Chirac non-event and the
Aegean Sea 2002 non-event.
*
In December 1994, I had begun a systematic deciphering of all of
Nostradamus' quatrains and I came upon bits and pieces of an
event concerning the destruction by fire of a house of the Queen
of England.
*
As Windsor castle had been hit by fire earlier, in 1992, I might
have been influenced by that event in the deciphering job. But
Windsor had not been destroyed, whereas 'my' anagram spoke of a
house destroyed. So, I abandoned that version of the quatrain,
thinking it about a future event which I would be unable to find.
*
When came September 11, 2001, the memory of that partially
deciphered quatrain came back. It suggested that a similar fate
awaited one of Britain's royal palaces. But the nagging question
also came back: *when* is this to happen, if at all?
*
In anagrams, when you have a ton of M, D, C, X, V, I, (and even
some Us which can be used as Vs) a most difficult task is to
place them in the correct order, so as to give a correct date.
*
The passage of time has already invalidated at least one future
year for this alleged event, i.e., that of 2005. An amended
deciphered text now produces the year 2015. But I am left with
the same question: is that 'new' date the correct one?
*
Here is the original quatrain:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___S E C O N D E. -------------
----------------------- (édition de 1555) --------------------
*
---- 30 - Vn qui les dieux d'Annibal infernaulx --------------
--------- Fera renaistre,effrayeur des humains ---------------
--------- Oncq' plus d'horreurs ne plus pire iournaux --------
--------- Qu'auint viendra par Babel aux Romains. ------------
*
My only clue is this "Annibal", which happens to be the cryptic
anagram of... (T)aliban! There is of course a lot of fear and
horror in this meaningful gobbledygook, but nothing suggesting an
event occurring in Britain.
*
And here is my latest decryption:
*
--------- Quand l'Enfer Arabe de l'An II Mil Quinze ----------
--------- destruira une Maison de la Grande Reyne ------------
--------- des preux Anglois pour punir le Cher U S, mon ------
--------- Paris viura II Ans auant la rude Bombe. ------------
*
In English: "When the Arabic Hell of Year II Thousand and Fifteen
shall destroy a House of the Great Queene of the valiant Englyshe
to punish the Dear US, my Paris shall live II Years before the
rude Bomb."
*
Here, two deciphered lines are complementary: in years, the total
of lines 1 and 4 equals 17. However, to produce other references
to 2017, year of the destruction of Paris, other combinations
were possible. I do not know if the correct date has been found;
all I know is that a correct date *must* cause line 4 to be
deciphered so as to give -- in combination with line 1 -- a total
of 17.
*
As with the Aegean Sea non-event of 2002, we shall know in 2015
if this date is indeed correct or not.
*
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Claude Latrémouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
Le 3 mars 2007 ---- % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses,- %
APNCL#1494 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
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03 Mar 2007 04:24:23 PM |
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On Mar 4, 7:25 am, (Claude Latremouille)
wrote:
*
Finding the correct date for a future event in cryptic anagrams
is not an easy task, as evidenced by the Chirac non-event and the
Aegean Sea 2002 non-event.
*
In December 1994, I had begun a systematic deciphering of all of
Nostradamus' quatrains and I came upon bits and pieces of an
event concerning the destruction by fire of a house of the Queen
of England.
*
As Windsor castle had been hit by fire earlier, in 1992, I might
have been influenced by that event in the deciphering job. But
Windsor had not been destroyed, whereas 'my' anagram spoke of a
house destroyed. So, I abandoned that version of the quatrain,
thinking it about a future event which I would be unable to find.
*
When came September 11, 2001, the memory of that partially
deciphered quatrain came back. It suggested that a similar fate
awaited one of Britain's royal palaces. But the nagging question
also came back: *when* is this to happen, if at all?
*
In anagrams, when you have a ton of M, D, C, X, V, I, (and even
some Us which can be used as Vs) a most difficult task is to
place them in the correct order, so as to give a correct date.
*
The passage of time has already invalidated at least one future
year for this alleged event, i.e., that of 2005. An amended
deciphered text now produces the year 2015. But I am left with
the same question: is that 'new' date the correct one?
*
Here is the original quatrain:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___S E C O N D E. -------------
----------------------- (=E9dition de 1555) --------------------
*
---- 30 - Vn qui les dieux d'Annibal infernaulx --------------
--------- Fera renaistre,effrayeur des humains ---------------
--------- Oncq' plus d'horreurs ne plus pire iournaux --------
--------- Qu'auint viendra par Babel aux Romains. ------------
*
My only clue is this "Annibal", which happens to be the cryptic
anagram of... (T)aliban! There is of course a lot of fear and
horror in this meaningful gobbledygook, but nothing suggesting an
event occurring in Britain.
*
And here is my latest decryption:
*
--------- Quand l'Enfer Arabe de l'An II Mil Quinze ----------
--------- destruira une Maison de la Grande Reyne ------------
--------- des preux Anglois pour punir le Cher U S, mon ------
--------- Paris viura II Ans auant la rude Bombe. ------------
*
In English: "When the Arabic Hell of Year II Thousand and Fifteen
shall destroy a House of the Great Queene of the valiant Englyshe
to punish the Dear US, my Paris shall live II Years before the
rude Bomb."
*
Here, two deciphered lines are complementary: in years, the total
of lines 1 and 4 equals 17. However, to produce other references
to 2017, year of the destruction of Paris, other combinations
were possible. I do not know if the correct date has been found;
all I know is that a correct date *must* cause line 4 to be
deciphered so as to give -- in combination with line 1 -- a total
of 17.
*
As with the Aegean Sea non-event of 2002, we shall know in 2015
if this date is indeed correct or not.
*
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Claude Latr=E9mouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
Le 3 mars 2007 ---- % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses,- %
APNCL#1494 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
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*
=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D CLAUDE LATR=C9MOUILLE =3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
The Great "Anagrammer" misses a point: d'Annibal almost gives Bin
Laden!
Missing a theme he is off chasing Royals like the paparazzi.
C II -Q30 Vn qui les dieux d'Annibal infernaulx
Fera renaistre, effrayeur des humains
Oncq' plus d'horreurs ne plus pire iournaux
Qu'auint viendra par Babel aux Romains.
[There will be] one who shall cause the hellish gods of Hannibal To be
reborn, the terror of the human race. Never more horrors, never worse
days Shall have happened from [the days of) Babel to the Romans.
Moloch, a gigantic idol, in which human sacrifices were burned alive.
Nostradamus may be referring to the chambre ardente for burning
heretics or to Calvin's similar institution. In Line 4 it is not clear
which Romans are meant.
LB
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04 Mar 2007 07:27:42 AM |
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On 3 Mar 2007 14:24:23 -0800, "leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in part:
*
The Great "Anagrammer" misses a point: d'Annibal almost gives Bin
Laden!
*
Another point, missed by an Aussie Moronic Troll, is the date on
the following post: 2002!
*
Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
Subject: Annibal = Taliban
Message-ID: <20020719163946.G39212-100000@sheppard1.torfree.net>
Keywords: Nostradamus, Anagrams, Quatrain II-30
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:41:41 -0400
*
Testing the hypothesis that quatrain II-30 vaguely refers to some
of the activities of al-Qaida, I came upon this other version of
its decrypted text. First, the original:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___S E C O N D E. -------------
----------------------- (édition de 1555) --------------------
*
---- 30 - Vn qui les dieux d'Annibal infernaulx --------------
--------- Fera renaistre,effrayeur des humains ---------------
--------- Oncq' plus d'horreurs ne plus pire iournaux --------
--------- Qu'auint viendra par Babel aux Romains. ------------
*
My only clue is this "Annibal", which happens to be the cryptic
anagram of... (T)aliban! There is of course a lot of fear and
horror in this meaningful gobbledygook, but nothing suggesting an
event occurring in the US.
*
The decrypted text links to France the events of September 11,
2001:
*
---- 30 - En Deux Mil Vn, quand l'U S a l'Enfer Arabe --------
--------- qui frira tant d'Amys de la Chère France, ----------
--------- « ô quelle horreur si exacte ! », dira Mon Paris ---
--------- qui a prié l'U S de tuer vng Barbare Osama. --------
*
In English: 'In Two Thousand and One, when the US has the Arabic
Hell which shall fry so many Friends of Dear France, "O what a so
exact horror!" shall say My Paris which has begged the US to kill
a Barbaric Osama.'
*
It is the second time Nostradamus uses an American spelling for
the French-style "Oussama" Ben Laden. The other instance was in a
decryption of I-87 discovered after the fact in September 2001.
*
Nostradamus is impressed at the exact nature of the September 11
attacks upon the US, as he sees a parallel with the exact
performance of the US missile which nukes Paris in 2017.
*
For Nostradamus, the irony of the situation lies in seeing Paris
call upon the US to avenge the September 11 massacre by killing
Ben Laden, while its destruction occurs in 2017 precisely because
the US is avenging the slaughter on Tienanmen Square of her 79
male diplomats stationed in Beijing on August 13, while her ICBM
has been given *by mistake* the precise targeting information to
hit the Concorde in Paris, not Tienanmen, in Beijing.
*
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Claude Latrémouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
Le 19 juillet 2002- % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses,- %
APNCL#1312 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
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=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
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*
Which goes to show that Nostradamus was able to rub his tummy
while tapping the top of his head.
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
March 4, 2007
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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04 Mar 2007 03:31:47 PM |
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On Mar 4, 11:27 pm, (Claude Latremouille)
wrote:
*
On 3 Mar2007 14:24:23 -0800, "leigh8...@optusnet.com.au"
<leigh8...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in part:
*>The Great "Anagrammer" misses a point: d'Annibal almost gives Bin
Laden!
*
Another point, missed by an Aussie Moronic Troll, is the date on
the following post: 2002!
*>Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
Subject: Annibal =3D Taliban
Message-ID: <20020719163946.G39212-100...@sheppard1.torfree.net>
Keywords: Nostradamus, Anagrams, Quatrain II-30
Date: Fri, 19 Jul2002 16:41:41 -0400
*
Testing the hypothesis that quatrain II-30 vaguely refers to some
of the activities of al-Qaida, I came upon this other version of
its decrypted text. First, the original:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___S E C O N D E. -------------
----------------------- (=E9dition de 1555) --------------------
*
---- 30 - Vn qui les dieux d'Annibal infernaulx --------------
--------- Fera renaistre,effrayeur des humains ---------------
--------- Oncq' plus d'horreurs ne plus pire iournaux --------
--------- Qu'auint viendra par Babel aux Romains. ------------
*
My only clue is this "Annibal", which happens to be the cryptic
anagram of... (T)aliban! There is of course a lot of fear and
horror in this meaningful gobbledygook, but nothing suggesting an
event occurring in the US.
*
The decrypted text links to France the events of September 11,
2001:
*
---- 30 - En Deux Mil Vn, quand l'U S a l'Enfer Arabe --------
--------- qui frira tant d'Amys de la Ch=E8re France, ----------
--------- =AB =F4 quelle horreur si exacte ! =BB, dira Mon Paris ---
--------- qui a pri=E9 l'U S de tuer vng Barbare Osama. --------
*
In English: 'In Two Thousand and One, when the US has the Arabic
Hell which shall fry so many Friends of Dear France, "O what a so
exact horror!" shall say My Paris which has begged the US to kill
a Barbaric Osama.'
*
It is the second time Nostradamus uses an American spelling for
the French-style "Oussama" Ben Laden. The other instance was in a
decryption of I-87 discovered after the fact in September 2001.
*
Nostradamus is impressed at the exact nature of the September 11
attacks upon the US, as he sees a parallel with the exact
performance of the US missile which nukes Paris in 2017.
*
For Nostradamus, the irony of the situation lies in seeing Paris
call upon the US to avenge the September 11 massacre by killing
Ben Laden, while its destruction occurs in 2017 precisely because
the US is avenging the slaughter on Tienanmen Square of her 79
male diplomats stationed in Beijing on August 13, while her ICBM
has been given *by mistake* the precise targeting information to
hit the Concorde in Paris, not Tienanmen, in Beijing.
*
------------------- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Claude Latr=E9mouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
Le 19 juillet 2002- % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses,- %
APNCL#1312 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
------------------- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
*
=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D CLAUDE LATR=C9MOUILLE =3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
*
Which goes to show that Nostradamus was able to rub his tummy
while tapping the top of his head.
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latr=E9mouille
March 4, 2007http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
*
=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D CLAUDE LATR=C9MOUILLE =3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
Oh dear so much baggage put into just one rhyme, the only problem is
that Nostradamus being a Frenchman only tells a French story ie from
the Mediterranean area, and so anything about the US is purely made up
to make the US folk feel secure, why though is still indeed a worry.
But let us take some propaganda:
"For Nostradamus, the irony of the situation lies in seeing Paris
call upon the US to avenge the September 11 massacre by killing
Ben Laden,
When was that exactly?
while its destruction occurs in 2017 precisely because
the US is avenging the slaughter on Tienanmen Square of her 79
male diplomats stationed in Beijing on August 13, while her ICBM
has been given *by mistake* the precise targeting information to
hit the Concorde in Paris, not Tienanmen, in Beijing. "
Here we have a purely made up incident using elements of the Iran
hostage situation and of course the ill founded Beijing incident
replayed with a typical Claudism like an ICBM could be targeted from
the East coast of the US to the East coast of China. Talk about bad
footprints in fuel use.
Stick with the script when you depart from it, so does your logic.
LB
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