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Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close....31/3/7 |
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/270307iranwar.htm
Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close
Seizure of British marines could be "Gulf of Tonkin" long yearned for
by warmongers
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, March 27, 2007
As tensions surrounding Iran's seizure of 15 British navy personnel
continue to build, ominous signs that war is nearing give an
indication that this could be the new "Gulf of Tonkin" Bush and Blair
have long yearned for to justify air strikes on Iran.
The U.S. has escalated war games in the area, "The manoeuvres involve
the USS John C. Stennis and the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, marking the
first time the two strike groups have operated in a joint exercise
under the US Navy's Fifth Fleet," reports the AFP.
Russian news outlets are reporting that such activity represents,
"Heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground
operation against Iran," that closely resembles the situation
immediately before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair has given the Iranians just days to
return the marines safely before harsher steps are taken.
It's difficult to know who to trust concerning exactly whose waters
the marines were in, Iraq's or Iran's, when Ahmadinejad's slender grip
on power survives only by feeding his own population war propaganda,
while Bush and Blair have become the very iconography of deceit in the
modern age.
A high ranking Iraqi official expressed his surprise that British
forces were even operating in the area.
Brigadier-General Hakim Jassim, commander of Iraq's territorial
waters, told the BBC: "Usually there is no presence of British forces
in that area, so we were surprised and we wondered whether the British
forces were inside Iraqi waters or inside Iranian regional waters."
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Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, slammed the
spin and rhetoric Tony Blair has cased the crisis in, pointing out
that the Royal Navy boarded the ships not to conduct inspections on
weapons smuggling, but to look for tax evaders.
"In international law the Iranian government were not out of order in
detaining foreign military personnel in waters to which they have a
legitimate claim," said Murray, adding "For the Royal Navy, to be
interdicting shipping within the twelve mile limit of territorial seas
in a region they know full well is subject to maritime boundary
dispute, is unnecessarily provocative."
What seems to be unfolding are similar circumstances that led to the
Israeli bombardment of Lebanon last summer, where two Israeli soldiers
were "kidnapped" after they had crossed the border into Lebanese
territory.
It seems highly unlikely that the Iranians would risk further
international condemnation by kidnapping British marines in Iraqi
waters, but whatever the truth, the fact remains that the "coalition
of the killing" are no strangers to violating international rules
defining sovereignty and kidnapping foreign nationals for political
gain.
Bush has green-lighted the CIA policy of globe-hopping to snatch
terror suspects off the streets of foreign countries, the most high
profile case being Islamic cleric Abu Omar in Milan in 2003.
On January 11, U.S. military forces raided an Iranian consulate in
Arbil and detained five Iranian officials who are still prisoners to
this day.
Bush and Blair's denouncements of Iran's actions are accompanied by
more than a whiff of hypocrisy and if this situation continues to
escalate it may become the "Gulf of Tonkin" they have long yearned for
to justify ordering air strikes against Ahmadinejad's nuclear and
military facilities.
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| User: "Ian MacLure" |
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31 Mar 2007 02:12:10 AM |
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Signs?
Signs?
Who cares about signs?
Everybody knows you need both SIGNS and PORTENTS.
Well SIGNS and PORTENTS and omenous music.
And oh by the way... Has anybody heard the fat
lady singing?
No? I thought not. Not even a single clearing of
the throat let alone an arpeggio or two.
So much for your credibility.
SIGNS indeed!
IBM
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| User: "skddlbyp" |
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31 Mar 2007 05:05:35 PM |
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"Ian MacLure" <ibm@svpal.org> wrote in message
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Signs?
Signs?
Who cares about signs?
Everybody knows you need both SIGNS and PORTENTS.
Well SIGNS and PORTENTS and omenous music.
And oh by the way... Has anybody heard the fat
lady singing?
No? I thought not. Not even a single clearing of
the throat let alone an arpeggio or two.
We've got ENSIGNS and persons of IMPORTENTS.
We've got Victory at Sea at Walmart for $1.
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| User: "Ian MacLure" |
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31 Mar 2007 09:14:26 PM |
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"skddlbyp" <ghmvdj@fnp.aiu> wrote in news:130tj8v4vqp1dd7@corp.supernews.com:
[snip]
We've got Victory at Sea at Walmart for $1.
Now there's a portent indeed!
IBM
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| User: "tip1" |
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| Title: Re: Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close....31/3/7 |
31 Mar 2007 12:28:23 AM |
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/270307iranwar.htm
Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close
Seizure of British marines could be "Gulf of Tonkin" long yearned for
by warmongers
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, March 27, 2007
As tensions surrounding Iran's seizure of 15 British navy personnel
continue to build, ominous signs that war is nearing give an
indication that this could be the new "Gulf of Tonkin" Bush and Blair
have long yearned for to justify air strikes on Iran.
The U.S. has escalated war games in the area, "The manoeuvres involve
the USS John C. Stennis and the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, marking the
first time the two strike groups have operated in a joint exercise
under the US Navy's Fifth Fleet," reports the AFP.
Russian news outlets are reporting that such activity represents,
"Heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground
operation against Iran," that closely resembles the situation
immediately before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair has given the Iranians just days to
return the marines safely before harsher steps are taken.
It's difficult to know who to trust concerning exactly whose waters
the marines were in, Iraq's or Iran's, when Ahmadinejad's slender grip
on power survives only by feeding his own population war propaganda,
while Bush and Blair have become the very iconography of deceit in the
modern age.
A high ranking Iraqi official expressed his surprise that British
forces were even operating in the area.
Brigadier-General Hakim Jassim, commander of Iraq's territorial
waters, told the BBC: "Usually there is no presence of British forces
in that area, so we were surprised and we wondered whether the British
forces were inside Iraqi waters or inside Iranian regional waters."
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The Internet leader in activist media - Prison Planet.tv. Thousands of
special reports, videos, MP3's, interviews, conferences, speeches,
events, documentary films, books and more - all for just 15 cents a
day! Click here to subscribe! Find out the true story behind
government sponsored terror, 7/7, Gladio and 9/11, get Terror Storm!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, slammed the
spin and rhetoric Tony Blair has cased the crisis in, pointing out
that the Royal Navy boarded the ships not to conduct inspections on
weapons smuggling, but to look for tax evaders.
"In international law the Iranian government were not out of order in
detaining foreign military personnel in waters to which they have a
legitimate claim," said Murray, adding "For the Royal Navy, to be
interdicting shipping within the twelve mile limit of territorial seas
in a region they know full well is subject to maritime boundary
dispute, is unnecessarily provocative."
What seems to be unfolding are similar circumstances that led to the
Israeli bombardment of Lebanon last summer, where two Israeli soldiers
were "kidnapped" after they had crossed the border into Lebanese
territory.
It seems highly unlikely that the Iranians would risk further
international condemnation by kidnapping British marines in Iraqi
waters, but whatever the truth, the fact remains that the "coalition
of the killing" are no strangers to violating international rules
defining sovereignty and kidnapping foreign nationals for political
gain.
Bush has green-lighted the CIA policy of globe-hopping to snatch
terror suspects off the streets of foreign countries, the most high
profile case being Islamic cleric Abu Omar in Milan in 2003.
On January 11, U.S. military forces raided an Iranian consulate in
Arbil and detained five Iranian officials who are still prisoners to
this day.
Bush and Blair's denouncements of Iran's actions are accompanied by
more than a whiff of hypocrisy and if this situation continues to
escalate it may become the "Gulf of Tonkin" they have long yearned for
to justify ordering air strikes against Ahmadinejad's nuclear and
military facilities.
Oh go on, every one knows the Iranians are our friends.This is all just a
pretense so we can start W.W.3 You know where the American and English
take over the world.........................
Smile.......................Silly bugger................
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close....31/3/7 |
31 Mar 2007 08:27:12 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation,
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> Spat the Words
It seems highly unlikely that the Iranians would risk further
international condemnation by kidnapping British marines in Iraqi
waters, but whatever the truth, the fact remains that the "coalition
of the killing" are no strangers to violating international rules
defining sovereignty and kidnapping foreign nationals for political
gain.
When both sides claim they have done no wrong then 'might
makes right' would be the only rule.
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close....31/3/7 |
31 Mar 2007 11:29:22 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99044BD027378rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation,
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> Spat the Words
It seems highly unlikely that the Iranians would risk further
international condemnation by kidnapping British marines in Iraqi
waters, but whatever the truth, the fact remains that the "coalition
of the killing" are no strangers to violating international rules
defining sovereignty and kidnapping foreign nationals for political
gain.
When both sides claim they have done no wrong then 'might
makes right' would be the only rule.
.. but everyone loves an epic story of 'right' winning out in the end,
but seldomly goes that way
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| User: "Simon" |
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| Title: Re: Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close....31/3/7 |
31 Mar 2007 02:47:48 PM |
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We have supplied evidence of where we were, so did the lying Iranians
stating they were in one place one minute and oops sorry that was in Iraqi
waters and then giving fresh coordinates soon afterwards, Surely those
coordinates were double checked in the first place before they were made
public. Who do the Iranians think they are ffs. They have always been
lying dogs and always will be, they are even making the servicemen read out
statements pretending it is of their own words. Do they think were stupid
or something? Iran can look out, they are digging their own grave and if we
don't get them soon good old Israel will. "BOOM"
"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:C%vPh.5207$6m4.3192@pd7urf1no...
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99044BD027378rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation,
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> Spat the Words
It seems highly unlikely that the Iranians would risk further
international condemnation by kidnapping British marines in Iraqi
waters, but whatever the truth, the fact remains that the "coalition
of the killing" are no strangers to violating international rules
defining sovereignty and kidnapping foreign nationals for political
gain.
When both sides claim they have done no wrong then 'might
makes right' would be the only rule.
.. but everyone loves an epic story of 'right' winning out in the
end, but seldomly goes that way
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| User: "Dr. Bipolar" |
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| Title: Re: Ominous Signs Suggest Iran War Close....31/3/7 |
31 Mar 2007 11:24:15 PM |
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"Simon" <Ibethedrinkscarlingblacklabel@burp.com> wrote in message
news:EVyPh.15240$kF3.2278@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
We have supplied evidence of where we were, so did the lying Iranians
stating they were in one place one minute and oops sorry that was in
Iraqi waters and then giving fresh coordinates soon afterwards, Surely
those coordinates were double checked in the first place before they
were made public. Who do the Iranians think they are ffs. They have
always been lying dogs and always will be, they are even making the
servicemen read out statements pretending it is of their own words. Do
they think were stupid or something? Iran can look out, they are
digging their own grave and if we don't get them soon good old Israel
will. "BOOM"
You must be a very young guy or a stupid one. How many times have nations
gone to war and destroyed large amounts of life over a relatively minor
issue, using it as justification for wholesale slaughter? Many!
The Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 stands out. Check that one out,
fella, and see what you find. In the final analysis, the incident didn't
warrant 11 years of warfare and 58,000 American dead. It was, in fact, a
civil war much like the Iraq War has devolved into. Many lies were told to
the public, as is the case now.
It matters not what some little conflictual incident on a waterway was in
detail, as to who was right or wrong, or where some sailors were or were
not at the moment. What matters is that this small incident not be used,
be exploited, by those who wish to massively thrash a people they hate or
fear, or be used as a way to divert attention away from a huge US policy
blunder, or be used as another contrivance to facilitate hegemonic designs
on a commercially lucrative resource area. Nor should it be used by Iran
to exploit whatever hegemonic designs they have on the Gulf region. But,
be certain that the heavy, and increasing, military US presence is
agitating the situation, and has no where beneficial to go, except into
more conflict, and a deeper futile involvement. At great risk in our
oil-based economy.
If you want to give up your life for this incident, to seek revenge, then
I'd advise you to enlist right away and make it known you want overseas
duty. Maybe you'll get 'lucky' and kill a Muslim or two to let 'em know
how wise and civilized we are as a nation here -- how honest and moral we
are, and our leaders, too.
You damned fool...
Dr. Bipolar
"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:C%vPh.5207$6m4.3192@pd7urf1no...
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99044BD027378rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation,
<stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> Spat the Words
It seems highly unlikely that the Iranians would risk further
international condemnation by kidnapping British marines in Iraqi
waters, but whatever the truth, the fact remains that the "coalition
of the killing" are no strangers to violating international rules
defining sovereignty and kidnapping foreign nationals for political
gain.
When both sides claim they have done no wrong then 'might
makes right' would be the only rule.
.. but everyone loves an epic story of 'right' winning out in the
end, but seldomly goes that way
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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31 Mar 2007 04:06:15 PM |
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On Mar 31, 8:47?pm, "Simon" <Ibethedrinkscarlingblackla...@burp.com>
wrote:
Iran can look out, they are digging their own grave and if we don't
get them soon good old Israel will. ?"BOOM"
Fine rousing stuff. Just what is needed to calm a situation. I'm glad
to note you are so certain that 'we' have told them....and that 'they'
are all lying.
I have to ask though, exactly how did you come by this information?
Please don't say you read it in the press...that won't do at all.
I wonder if the possibility that this was quite deliberate, that the
capture was schemed in order to galvanise public support for an
offensive against Iran, has been considered? I note that certain
members of the Government are accusing Iran of 'sabre rattling'. Is
that not exactly what the Western world is doing too?
Wars are 'allowed' by the misled public. Do you think we should yet
again be drawn by our own Governments hidden agendas?
Werewolfy
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