When A Nuke Goes Missing...
6:45am - Wednesday 13 October 2004
The US military calls them broken arrows. They are the dozen or so
missing or lost devices from its nuclear arsenal. And one of them is a
lot closer to home than many Americans are comfortable with, or indeed
know about.
It's device number 47782, with a yield of about a hundred times
greater than the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. In 1958, during the
era of the Cold War, this particular hydrogen bomb was jettisoned into
the sea off the Georgia coast where - despite repeated attempts to
locate and retrieve it - it has remained ever since.
A fortnight ago, the American Defense Department conducted a fresh
survey of the area, assisted by Derek Duke, a retired airforce colonel
and pilot who flew missions equipped with nuclear weapons. He speaks
to us from Savannah in Georgia.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/brkfast/stories/s1218751.htm
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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14 Oct 2004 07:52:47 PM |
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THANKS for POSTING THAT LEIGH!
It's the Tybee Island nuke I've been complaining about.
At least Australia's listening!
Maybe if the story keeps getting told they will eventually get off their
butts and do something.
And they scratch their silly heads when the fish wash up dead on our
shores.
SuZanne
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Leigh wrote:
When A Nuke Goes Missing...
6:45am - Wednesday 13 October 2004
The US military calls them broken arrows. They are the dozen or so
missing or lost devices from its nuclear arsenal. And one of them is a
lot closer to home than many Americans are comfortable with, or indeed
know about.
It's device number 47782, with a yield of about a hundred times greater
than the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. In 1958, during the era of the
Cold War, this particular hydrogen bomb was jettisoned into the sea off
the Georgia coast where - despite repeated attempts to locate and
retrieve it - it has remained ever since.
A fortnight ago, the American Defense Department conducted a fresh
survey of the area, assisted by Derek Duke, a retired airforce colonel
and pilot who flew missions equipped with nuclear weapons.
He speaks to us from Savannah in Georgia.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/brkfast/stories/s1218751.htm
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: On the Beach |
14 Oct 2004 08:21:37 PM |
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Su Zanadu a écrit:
THANKS for POSTING THAT LEIGH!
It's the Tybee Island nuke I've been complaining about.
At least Australia's listening!
Maybe if the story keeps getting told they will eventually get off their
butts and do something.
The radio broadcast says they are doing something.
And they scratch their silly heads when the fish wash up dead on our
shores.
SuZanne
Maybe they have louses? ;-)
J.
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Leigh wrote:
When A Nuke Goes Missing...
6:45am - Wednesday 13 October 2004
The US military calls them broken arrows. They are the dozen or so
missing or lost devices from its nuclear arsenal. And one of them is a
lot closer to home than many Americans are comfortable with, or indeed
know about.
It's device number 47782, with a yield of about a hundred times greater
than the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. In 1958, during the era of the
Cold War, this particular hydrogen bomb was jettisoned into the sea off
the Georgia coast where - despite repeated attempts to locate and
retrieve it - it has remained ever since.
A fortnight ago, the American Defense Department conducted a fresh
survey of the area, assisted by Derek Duke, a retired airforce colonel
and pilot who flew missions equipped with nuclear weapons.
He speaks to us from Savannah in Georgia.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/brkfast/stories/s1218751.htm
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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14 Oct 2004 09:50:41 PM |
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Jean wrote:
Maybe if the story keeps getting told >>they will eventually get off
their butts >>and do something.
The radio broadcast says they are doing
something.
I will have to check that out before I believe it.
I can't just go on this interview alone. You know people will lie about
*just* anything to get on a radio talk show.
And maybe he figured we wouldn't hear about it back in the USA. ;)
I'm going a-gOOgling!
Will let you know what I find.
And they scratch their silly heads when
the fish wash up dead on our shores.
SuZanne
Maybe they have louses? ;-)
or glow fishies!
That reminds me....
I saw this in another ng.
http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/IFoundNemo.jpg
he he!
SuZanne
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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15 Oct 2004 05:13:12 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<20164-416F3B01-100@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
Jean wrote:
Maybe if the story keeps getting told >>they will eventually get off
their butts >>and do something.
The radio broadcast says they are doing
something.
I will have to check that out before I believe it.
I can't just go on this interview alone. You know people will lie about
*just* anything to get on a radio talk show.
And maybe he figured we wouldn't hear about it back in the USA. ;)
I'm going a-gOOgling!
Will let you know what I find.
And they scratch their silly heads when
the fish wash up dead on our shores.
SuZanne
Maybe they have louses? ;-)
or glow fishies!
That reminds me....
I saw this in another ng.
http://home.centurytel.net/Katraslink/IFoundNemo.jpg
he he!
SuZanne
Nice Oh what a choice a smiling fish in a wrap, But the story of the
missing nuke, is not new, I am sure I have heard of it before but with
little to no supporting info, it sort of goes into crop circles and
UFO category, ie I'll believe it when I see it in a manner that
confirms it.
But one would have thought the brief would have been don't stop
looking until you have found it,, wonder if it has a use by date.
Maybe they did not want to tell, because it would cause undue concern
in the populace.
LB
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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15 Oct 2004 09:32:14 PM |
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Hey Leigh...if you've heard it before it most likely was in this ng...
;)
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=tybee%20island&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_uauthors=tugbertswife@webtv.net%20&lr=&hl=en
A-bomb to remain off Tybee
Air Force says device should remain 'lost' By Russ Bynum
November 30, 2001
Associated Press
SAVANNAH -- A 7,600-pound nuclear bomb dumped off the Georgia coast 43
years ago should be left undisturbed beneath the ocean floor, the Air
Force concluded in a report yesterday. ''It is in the best interest of
the public and the environment to leave the bomb in its resting place
and remain categorized as irretrievably lost,'' the Air Force report
said. That conclusion means the bomb, dumped into the ocean by a
crippled bomber in 1958, will likely never be found. A former military
pilot whose questions dredged the bomb's history from the depths of
fading memory and folklore says he lacks the money for his own search.
The Air Force stood by its insistence that the bomb lacks a key
plutonium capsule needed to cause a nuclear explosion, though its metal
casing contains some radioactive uranium and the explosive power of 400
pounds of TNT. Derek Duke, an ex-military pilots whose questions
prompted the area's congressman to push for an updated report on the
bomb, remains unconvinced that the weapon poses no nuclear threat. Duke
points to an April 1966 letter to the chairman of Congress' Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy from the Department of Defense that
classified the Georgia bomb as a ''complete weapon.'' The Air Force
concluded months ago that the letter was erroneous. It cites a transfer
receipt on the bomb from Feb. 4, 1958, that lists it as a ''simulated''
weapon -- meaning the nuclear capsule had been removed. ''I still want
to find some way to bring the vessel up," said Duke, who initially
proposed a search of his own. "I don't have the money to do it.'' A B-47
bomber on a training flight was forced to jettison the bomb into the
ocean when it collided with another plane in February 1958. The weapon
landed off Tybee Island, near Savannah, in Wassaw Sound -- the location
of Olympic sailing competitions during the 1996 Olympics. Rep. Jack
Kingston, R-Ga., asked the Air Force to consider looking for the bomb
after hearing Duke's concerns. Military officials briefed Kingston on
their findings before releasing the report yesterday. ''I feel confident
that the experts did their job,'' Kingston said in a statement. ''I'm
happy to hear that the people living, working and playing on Tybee
Island are safe.'' Kingston's optimism wasn't shared by Tybee Island
Mayor Walter Parker, whose beach community includes 4,000 residents and
thousands of summer visitors. Parker and the island's city council had
asked the government to find the bomb before deciding whether to remove
it. ''There's been so many conflicting documents that have come to
light, I don't know how they can say there's not a problem,'' Parker
said. ''They should at least locate it and determine whether it's safe
or not.'' The report estimates the bomb is resting beneath 8-to-40 feet
of water and is buried beneath the ocean floor in 5-to-15 feet of mud
and sand -- a safe distance from passing boats. The uranium in the bomb
poses a low risk of contamination, the report concluded, and the
explosives have no risk of detonating unless the bomb is disturbed.
However, an attempt to remove the bomb would mean a ''serious explosion
hazard.'' The Air Force also concluded that a search for the bomb would
be slow and costly, requiring up to five years and $11.4 million.
[or just a few hurricanes blowing thru would do the trick]
SuZanne
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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16 Oct 2004 04:26:07 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<18388-4170882E-138@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>...
Hey Leigh...if you've heard it before it most likely was in this ng...
;)
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=tybee%20island&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_uauthors= %20&lr=&hl=en
A-bomb to remain off Tybee
Air Force says device should remain 'lost' By Russ Bynum
November 30, 2001
SNIP
The Air Force also concluded that a search for the bomb would
be slow and costly, requiring up to five years and $11.4 million.
[or just a few hurricanes blowing thru would do the trick]
SuZanne
Maybe a report that an Arab dhow was seen in the area trolling, would
prompt an immeadiate search!
LB
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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17 Oct 2004 12:36:47 AM |
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Leigh wrote:
Maybe a report that an Arab dhow was
seen in the area trolling, would prompt
an immediate search!
Here's a secret but you musn't tell any one! ;)
I overheard the nice little Arab man down at the 7-11 store telling the
pita bread delivery boy that OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS TROLLING AROUND IN HIS
SUBMARINE 1 MILE OFF THE COAST OF TYBEE ISLAND GEORGIA.
okay.....seriously. I think at first they just wanted to ignore it and
let future generations deal with it but now the thing is obviously
leaking and so many people are aware of it that they really have no
choice.
And to totally change the subject here back to the last conversation
pertaining to Dengue fever and the flu... I wanted to ask you if you had
heard about accupuncture being used to aid the immune system. Supposedly
it causes you to release endorphins that boost the immune system..
They had a short report on it here last week due to the fact the US is
so short on flu vaccines this year they are looking at different
options. Only those at risk or the elderly, infants and expectant
mothers can have the vaccine.
SuZanne
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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17 Oct 2004 07:43:06 AM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<27001-417204EF-675@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net>...
Leigh wrote:
Maybe a report that an Arab dhow was
seen in the area trolling, would prompt
an immediate search!
Here's a secret but you musn't tell any one! ;)
I overheard the nice little Arab man down at the 7-11 store telling the
pita bread delivery boy that OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS TROLLING AROUND IN HIS
SUBMARINE 1 MILE OFF THE COAST OF TYBEE ISLAND GEORGIA.
okay.....seriously. I think at first they just wanted to ignore it and
let future generations deal with it but now the thing is obviously
leaking and so many people are aware of it that they really have no
choice.
With all that hardware supposedly able to pick a needle out of a
haystack, it should be a snip.
And to totally change the subject here back to the last conversation
pertaining to Dengue fever and the flu... I wanted to ask you if you had
heard about accupuncture being used to aid the immune system. Supposedly
it causes you to release endorphins that boost the immune system..
Could work but wearing silver would give a similar result, just on
boosting immune systems, but is not the body made to adapt to changing
conditions?
They had a short report on it here last week due to the fact the US is
so short on flu vaccines this year they are looking at different
options. Only those at risk or the elderly, infants and expectant
mothers can have the vaccine.
SuZanne
So they are training, acupuncturists?
:}
LB
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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17 Oct 2004 09:42:19 AM |
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Leigh wrote:
SuZanne wrote:
And to totally change the subject here
back to the last conversation pertaining
to Dengue fever and the flu... I wanted
to ask you if you had heard about
accupuncture being used to aid the
immune system. Supposedly it causes
you to release endorphins that boost
the immune system..
Could work but wearing silver would give
a similar result,
Interesting because I wear a lot of N. American silver jewerly and I
have always wondered why I don't get a full blown case of what goes thru
our house.
Everybody is getting silver bracelets for Christmas now!
just on boosting immune systems, but is
not the body
made to adapt to changing conditions?
Some better than others.
Also depends on how extreme.
I think changes are better if they are gradual.
They had a short report on it here last
week due to the fact the US is so short
on flu vaccines this year they are
looking at different options. Only those
at risk or the elderly, infants and
expectant mothers can have the
vaccine.
So they are training, acupuncturists?
No....just promoting them. ;)
They have to give some ray of hope to the angry vaccineless masses.
:}
LB
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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18 Oct 2004 05:08:35 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<12503-417284CB-50@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net>...
Leigh wrote:
SuZanne wrote:
And to totally change the subject here
back to the last conversation pertaining
to Dengue fever and the flu... I wanted
to ask you if you had heard about
accupuncture being used to aid the
immune system. Supposedly it causes
you to release endorphins that boost
the immune system..
Could work but wearing silver would give
a similar result,
Interesting because I wear a lot of N. American silver jewerly and I
have always wondered why I don't get a full blown case of what goes thru
our house.
Everybody is getting silver bracelets for Christmas now!
It is supposed to do something for the immune system, but being
predisposed to getting something like a flu has to happen, for
antibodies to update.
They say Edwardian health was because they used silver cutlery.
just on boosting immune systems, but is
not the body
made to adapt to changing conditions?
Some better than others.
Also depends on how extreme.
I think changes are better if they are gradual.
They had a short report on it here last
week due to the fact the US is so short
on flu vaccines this year they are
looking at different options. Only those
at risk or the elderly, infants and
expectant mothers can have the
vaccine.
So they are training, acupuncturists?
No....just promoting them. ;)
They have to give some ray of hope to the angry vaccineless masses.
:}
They say the medical stories, are now he good news stories, just for
the hope they give.
LB
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