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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Dani"
Date: 04 Aug 2005 09:31:42 PM
Object: POLL: for the men here..
Okay guys,
This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.
I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?
Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.
...one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?
Just *how* important are looks, guys?
Thanks for answering.
Dani
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User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 02:05:01 AM
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kcj5f1t3r6v3hd3m3m2q08em8fh35mo7il@4ax.com...

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.

OK, well I'll do my best to answer these questions as they apply to me:

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

If she's good looking, she's more likely to gain my initial attention. If
that leads to us talking to each other, and she's an insufferable dumbass, I
won't want to know her, though (and don't beat me up to bad for this) I will
generally try to hook her up with one of my... *ahem*... less suave buddies
(Geeez that makes me sound like a *****... oh well...). If she's the
hotness and not a complete ditz (only a partial ditz), I'd give her a bit
more of a chance, but would likely get frusterated if the relationship was
continued for any serious length of time.
In the rare case that she's got the body and the brain, well, I made her my
girlfriend!

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.

..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

Well, online relationships are a special case. Even if you have a great
friendship online, that doesn't mean it will translate in a real life
friendship. There are many things that you cannot sense about a person over
a digital medium, that you will only find out about when you see them face
to face. I say this regardless of looks.
I'd much rather have an unattractive yet intelligent woman, than a hot
hussy, by my side.

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

They are important for me, in terms of the initial attaction and attention
grabbing. After that, they don't mean a great deal... whats more, girls
don't even need exceptional looks, because they have 'weapons' at their
disposal when persuing men. Namely: Beer and Fashion (in that order)

Thanks for answering.

No worries!
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 11:11:00 PM
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:05:01 GMT, "Aidan" <nospam.aweraw@gmail.com>
wrote:

"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kcj5f1t3r6v3hd3m3m2q08em8fh35mo7il@4ax.com...

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.


OK, well I'll do my best to answer these questions as they apply to me:

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

If she's good looking, she's more likely to gain my initial attention. If
that leads to us talking to each other, and she's an insufferable dumbass, I
won't want to know her, though (and don't beat me up to bad for this)

I wouldn't beat you up for that, Aidan. Actually I find it honorable.
It shows me that you don't view looks as everything and you want
substance. Some guys don't care; they only see the looks.
And even if I didn't, this is a poll and I want absolute honesty;
unpallatable or not.

I will
generally try to hook her up with one of my... *ahem*... less suave buddies
(Geeez that makes me sound like a *****... oh well...).

It doesn't make you sound like a dumbass! ummm.. I've done the same
with guys that I thought would fit well with a friend of mine that is
really on the flakey side. ..(shhhh ;)

If she's the
hotness and not a complete ditz (only a partial ditz), I'd give her a bit
more of a chance, but would likely get frusterated if the relationship was
continued for any serious length of time.

Again, I like your answer. It shows you see women as more than just
what they look like.

In the rare case that she's got the body and the brain, well, I made her my
girlfriend!

Hehe .. ;) And who could argue with that! Sometimes I wonder..."does
he only like me for my looks? What if something happened and I lost
my looks? Would he stick around?"
I've had times when I'd start an interesting conversation with a guy,
and he completely blew it off - couldn't care less what I was talking
about. But I was the center of the universe when he wanted something
from me! Hate, hate HATE that! Like me for me or ***** ya! .. :)

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.
..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

Well, online relationships are a special case. Even if you have a great
friendship online, that doesn't mean it will translate in a real life
friendship. There are many things that you cannot sense about a person over
a digital medium, that you will only find out about when you see them face
to face. I say this regardless of looks.

I've heard of people who started out online and wound up *married*!

I'd much rather have an unattractive yet intelligent woman, than a hot
hussy, by my side.

Good for you .. :)

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

They are important for me, in terms of the initial attaction and attention
grabbing. After that, they don't mean a great deal... whats more, girls
don't even need exceptional looks, because they have 'weapons' at their
disposal when persuing men. Namely: Beer and Fashion (in that order)

You really sound like a good man, Aidan.

Thanks for answering.

No worries!

Thanks again! You put a smile on my face.
Cheers,
Dani
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User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 11:40:55 PM
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:kcj5f1t3r6v3hd3m3m2q08em8fh35mo7il@4ax.com...

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.

..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

Thanks for answering.

Dani

My dear Dani. You sure could open a can of worms with this. Here's my take. I like a woman who takes
care of herself. She's clean, eats healthy, and lives an overall healthy lifestyle. The biggest turn
off is smoking. I personally find cigarette smoking disgusting. It stinks and causes poor health.
It's a real barrier in any relationship. I find that some women will lite up a smoke when they
become the least bit nervous. It's much better if they'd simply come forward and admit the
nervousness than try covering it up with a stinky butt. Smokers also seem to be extremely self
centered with they addiction. They don't care who it offends. Drug use and excessive drinking is
also turn off.
I tend to prefer tall women. Not beanstalks...........maybe 5'8"-5'10". Weight isn't as important as
overall self care. Our bodies are the temple of God. Not all of us are blessed with extreme beauty,
but make the best of what you got. I've seen many chunky women who are a real turn on. Not big fat
and flabby, but a healthy chunkiness. Over done makeup is a turnoff. So are tatoos. A woman who
continually talks about herself is also a pain. So are the big woman libbers. I have no problem with
equality, but the constant ragging about it is phony. It's like they're trying to convince
themselves that they're equal to men. A woman who feels secure with herself doesn't need to blab.
That brings me to the two final issues. I find the independant woman a huge turn on. She knows what
she wants and goes for it. She's honest and doesn't allow fear to stand in the way of taking risks.
The dependant, clingy woman drives me nuts. Clingy usually goes along with whiny. Lastly, a belief
in a higher power outside of herself that ties into strong Judeo-Christian beliefs.
Opps..........love of music too. Rock n Roll.
Well, that sums it up................except for the man's part. A man needs to treat his bride well.
She's his queen. His strength in the relationship doesn't come from what she does for him but rather
what he can contribute to the relationship. He needs to understand that love is a three part
equation consisting of mutual trust, respect, and admiration. While he can look at other
woman...........he must not touch.
Live from the Golden Hills of Lead, SD
.

User: ""

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 12:56:41 AM
*HIS* "ELECT" *WROTE*:
*I* "AM" *REMINDED* "OF" *A* "ROCK" *SONG* "THATS" *CALLED*... "SHE'S"
*GOT* "LOOKS" *THAT* "KILL"!!!
*OF* "COURSE" *THOSE* "LOOKS" *MAY* "BE" *HER* "SHEER" *BEAUTY* "OR"
*THEY* "COULD" *BE* "HER" *UTTER* "UGLINESS" *THEY* "ONLY" *SAID* "SHE"
*HAS* "LOOKS" *THAT* "KILL"!!!
*AS* "FOR" *ME* "PERSONALLY" *I* "BELIEVE" *IN* "LOVE" *AND* "NOT"
*JUST* "LOOKS" *AND* "SEX" *AS* "IT" *IS* "A" *PERSONAL* "RELATIONSHIP"
*YOU* "ARE" *TRYING* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "WITH" *SOMEONE* "AND" *YOU*
"REALLY" *DO* "WANT" *TO* "SHARE" *IN* "LOVE" *AS* "YOU" *ALREADY*
"KNOW" *THAT* "IF" *IT'S* "NOT" *LOVE* "YOU" *WILL* "END" *UP* "IN" *A*
"DIVORCE"!!!
*BTW* "IS" *DIVORCE* "THE" *SAME* "AS" *TELLING* "GOD" *THAT* "ANYBODY"
*CAN* "PUTTETH" *UNDER* "THAT" *WHICH* "HE" *HAS* "JOINED"
*TOGETHER*???
*HOPE* "YOU" *WILL* "FIND" *YOUR* "ANSWER" *AS* "I" *AM* "SURE" *THAT*
"MY" *OPINION* "WILL" *NOT* "BE" *RECOGNIZED* "AS" *WORTHY* "OF" *YOUR*
"CONSIDERATION"!!!
*HIS* "ELECT"
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 10:54:27 PM
On 4 Aug 2005 22:56:41 -0700,
wrote:

*HIS* "ELECT" *WROTE*:

*I* "AM" *REMINDED* "OF" *A* "ROCK" *SONG* "THATS" *CALLED*... "SHE'S"
*GOT* "LOOKS" *THAT* "KILL"!!!

*OF* "COURSE" *THOSE* "LOOKS" *MAY* "BE" *HER* "SHEER" *BEAUTY* "OR"
*THEY* "COULD" *BE* "HER" *UTTER* "UGLINESS" *THEY* "ONLY" *SAID* "SHE"
*HAS* "LOOKS" *THAT* "KILL"!!!

*AS* "FOR" *ME* "PERSONALLY" *I* "BELIEVE" *IN* "LOVE" *AND* "NOT"
*JUST* "LOOKS" *AND* "SEX" *AS* "IT" *IS* "A" *PERSONAL* "RELATIONSHIP"
*YOU* "ARE" *TRYING* "TO" *ESTABLISH* "WITH" *SOMEONE* "AND" *YOU*
"REALLY" *DO* "WANT" *TO* "SHARE" *IN* "LOVE" *AS* "YOU" *ALREADY*
"KNOW" *THAT* "IF" *IT'S* "NOT" *LOVE* "YOU" *WILL* "END" *UP* "IN" *A*
"DIVORCE"!!!

True. I'm a hopeless romantic and I love to be in love. There's
nothing better as far as I'm concerned. I want to be *best-friends*
with the next man I am with.

*BTW* "IS" *DIVORCE* "THE" *SAME* "AS" *TELLING* "GOD" *THAT* "ANYBODY"
*CAN* "PUTTETH" *UNDER* "THAT" *WHICH* "HE" *HAS* "JOINED"
*TOGETHER*???

I didn't really understand that question. Can you word it differently
for me?

*HOPE* "YOU" *WILL* "FIND" *YOUR* "ANSWER" *AS* "I" *AM* "SURE" *THAT*
"MY" *OPINION* "WILL" *NOT* "BE" *RECOGNIZED* "AS" *WORTHY* "OF" *YOUR*
"CONSIDERATION"!!!

No, Prince Lightwing, I addressed this to *all* the men here. I am
not excluding you and your opinion does count.
Thanks for answering.
Dani
.
User: ""

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 01:19:26 AM

*BTW* "IS" *DIVORCE* "THE" *SAME* "AS" *TELLING* "GOD" *THAT* "ANYBODY"
*CAN* "PUTTETH" *UNDER* "THAT" *WHICH* "HE" *HAS* "JOINED"
*TOGETHER*???

I didn't really understand that question. Can you word it differently
for me?
Yes, I can word it differently for you as I know that it's hard to
comprehend some of the things I speak about.
You see the divorce rate in America is "ASTRONOMICAL" and I am
concerned that people are taking the matrimony out of marriage and
turning *HIS* promise to bless their union into a joke.
When men and women marry they should be marrying the one they want to
spend their entire life with and not just the life they are living here
on earth. That means that they should be seeking to marry the one they
believe will be their "Soul Mate" and who will share in the joys of
love and friendship with them for their entire life.
One of the biggest problems facing the family units these days is that
men and women are able to chase after other things so much that they
forget about what brought them together in the first place. Of course
that is supposed to be "A Deep And Sincere Love For Each Other".
Unfortunately, they do not consider that heaven was designed for them
to share their spiritual lives together as they shared their physical
lives and with all the divorces going on down here the family structure
of heaven has also been broken and is being destroyed because people
simply will not "HONOR" their vows to be "MARRIED" to each other for
better or worse.
Do you know that the worse part is when everyone starts bailing out on
each other and leaving many lives in shambles because they may of had
children together that nolonger can expect to inherit a life with their
family in heaven. This ought not be so as it is really making things a
mess for *GOD* and the rest of us who want to see people come to heaven
and share the goodness of their lives and not all these broken dreams
and failed marriages.
It has honestly and truly been the most disheartening mission I have
ever been on and after this one even I have decided that I have had
enough because there just isn't anyway of getting people to stop doing
these terrible things to each other and I simply can't live with
anymore heartbreak as I have long carried the load for others who just
don't care what it does to the rest of us.
I'm sorry to turn this into more than your question asked for and I do
apologize to you for being voiciferous with you as it is not that I am
wanting any of you to be angry with me I just am trying to get others
to see the facts as I have known them to be for a long time now.
Unfortunately, I keep getting myself hurt because I just can't help
anybody understand that this is really making life in heaven an unhappy
place when we can't get everyone to come and be with their loved ones.
As I have also stated to you and the others down here... I am "HIS"
*ELECT* and I do have a great deal of responsibility to *GOD* and "HIS"
*PEOPLE* down here as it was my intent to *HELP* guide all of you away
from doing these things to each other and making us suffer more losses
as we love and care about you and do not want you to suffer or make us
suffer anymore of this senseless conduct.
I know that some of the others in this "NG" will tell you I am not a
friendly person as they have made a point to continually provoke my ire
and that is not something that I like and therefore I let them know
that I have a great deal of authority over their situation in the hopes
that they will "STOP" acting like they are and *START* acting like they
should.
I hear people all the time tell full grown adults that they are acting
childish and I assure you that they are correct because an adult is
supposed to be mature and proper in their interactions with each other
and when they don't act mature and treat each other improperly they
teach others to act that way and it becomes another factor that is
causing many people to suffer needlessly.
Again, I apologize for carrying on with this situation in a forceful
manner and I want you to know it was only to get their attention.
I Bid *YOU* Peace...
Lightwing
.



User: "The CO"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 06:38:13 AM
Dani wrote:

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman.

Usually but not exclusively, yes.

But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

Probably not.
It would depend on many things, not least of which is the age of the
people involved. Adolescents are more likely to focus on the 'wow she's
gorgeous' part, a more mature man might be more likely to consider long
term compatibility. There's also a problem of subjectivity here.
What precisely makes a particular woman attractive to a particular man
varies enormously. The American stereotypical big boobed blonde
bombshell is not one I particularly like to be honest. I prefer women
who are slim and feminine and somewhat less endowed AND aren't reduced
to a giggling mess at the drop of a hat. I can also state that I know
of one 'odd couple' that are delirously happy and have been for 30
years, having gone out since they were 12 and married when they were
both 19. He's a boffin in a defence research centre and is probably the
stereotypical nerd, at least in appearance. She's never had a job and
didn't finish high school. Not well educated and to be painfully
honest, not that bright, but drop dead gorgeous (even now she turns
heads). Yet they have 4 children and are deliriously happy and clearly
totally involved with each other. I guess what I'm saying is that the
rule is there are no rules......

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.

I could relate to that. I think RAH said in one of his books that there
are no ugly women, some are just more beautiful than others, and I find
that I can agree with that. He also said that beauty is skin deep but
ugly goes to the bone and I've seen quite plain women that I find
attractive for a variety of reasons and quite attractive women that
repelled me for a variety of reasons. Looks are not everything, but
there is no doubt that they help.

..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

It would depend on many things, not the least of which is that I can't
imagine getting to that point in a relationship and not at least
exchanging pictures. At worst, we'd probably remain friends and perhaps
have social outings occasionally. Again, being 'fat an ugly' isn't
necessarily going to be a showstopper, but it makes it more likely.

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

In many ways, beauty IS in the eye of the beholder and I see very few
women, even ones that are 'fat and ugly' to some degree, without male
company. Perhaps I can toss it back and ask how important looks are to
the ladies amongst us. What if the positions were reversed? How would
a woman react under the same circumtances.
--
The CO
.

User: "Half-Mad"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 04:30:44 AM
For the gorgeous lady, depends on if she puts out. If so, then she goes
away when the sex gets boring.
For the "nice personality", depends on how bad she looks. If it's a
case of call Ripley's Believe It Or Not, then go back online, and stay
there. If it's just not quite good enough to be average, then
personality can make up for it.
Looks open doors. Personality keeps the door open.
Dani wrote:

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.

..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

Thanks for answering.

Dani

.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 10:50:19 PM
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:30:44 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:

For the gorgeous lady, depends on if she puts out. If so, then she goes
away when the sex gets boring.

Well, my first inclination is to get angry at you, but this is a poll
and I do want nothing but honesty.
Alright.. let's see. That really isn't what I asked, but.. why would
you get rid of her if the sex is good? And if you think it's getting
boring can't you find ways to spice it up if she's gorgeous that
shouldn't be too hard. There are ways of spicing up...don't want to
get too graphic here - but use your imagination.
So, basically you see women as sex objects only? Have you ever been
in love? Would you ever consider a serious relationship?
Were you hurt once and fear giving your heart away again?

For the "nice personality", depends on how bad she looks. If it's a
case of call Ripley's Believe It Or Not, then go back online, and stay
there. If it's just not quite good enough to be average, then
personality can make up for it.

This sound a lot better than your first statement. I could be wrong
but do you "fear" gorgeous women for one reason or another? That is
not uncommon, you know. My ex-husband told me that the
next girlfriend he gets will be ugly because he said I was too
"high maintenence" and she won't hurt him.
So, you feel personality is more important than looks?

Looks open doors. Personality keeps the door open.

Right on! Good for you, Sir.
Dani

Dani wrote:

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.

..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

Thanks for answering.

Dani

.
User: "Half-Mad"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 10:28:54 AM
Dani wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:30:44 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:


For the gorgeous lady, depends on if she puts out. If so, then she goes
away when the sex gets boring.



Well, my first inclination is to get angry at you, but this is a poll
and I do want nothing but honesty.

Alright.. let's see. That really isn't what I asked, but.. why would
you get rid of her if the sex is good? And if you think it's getting
boring can't you find ways to spice it up if she's gorgeous that
shouldn't be too hard. There are ways of spicing up...don't want to
get too graphic here - but use your imagination.

Get as angry as you like, makes no difference to me.
If the sex is good, and stays good, with spicing up, or whatever, then
she would stay. If it was to become the same old routine, and there was
no spicing up, then it could easily get boring.


So, basically you see women as sex objects only? Have you ever been
in love? Would you ever consider a serious relationship?

Were you hurt once and fear giving your heart away again?

Erm, I'm married. To somebody with a good personality. She does not
look at all bad, but she won't be winning Miss Universe any time soon.
In my past, I went after the cute little hardbody women. Usually in the
late high school to college age. They were lots of fun, and were
gorgeous. But after awhile, it was almost painful listening to most of
them speak.



For the "nice personality", depends on how bad she looks. If it's a
case of call Ripley's Believe It Or Not, then go back online, and stay
there. If it's just not quite good enough to be average, then
personality can make up for it.



This sound a lot better than your first statement. I could be wrong
but do you "fear" gorgeous women for one reason or another? That is
not uncommon, you know. My ex-husband told me that the
next girlfriend he gets will be ugly because he said I was too
"high maintenence" and she won't hurt him.

I don't fear them, no. But there is always that thought in the back of
the mind that they are a bit more likely to cheat due to more
opportunities. I still believe that at least one of my ex's did cheat
on me. I could be wrong, and it doesn't matter anymore, but that's what
I think.


So, you feel personality is more important than looks?

In the long run, yes. Short term, no.



Looks open doors. Personality keeps the door open.



Right on! Good for you, Sir.

You don't sound angry anymore.
You cute? Wanna *****?


Dani


Dani wrote:

Okay guys,

This is something I've wondered now for quite some time.

I know that initially looks are generally what attract a man to a
woman. But if after, when you start talking to her, you realize
there's just nothing there; meaning, she's not interesting, not
someone that you enjoy talking with - *but* she's a drop dead
beauty. Does her personality negate the looks? Do you still
date her?

Also, let's say that you have an on-line relationship (which is common
these days) and you *really* like this woman behind the screen..
you've never seen her, not a picture...nothing. You've no idea what
she looks like but you have strong feelings for her.

..one day you finally meet. She's overweight and unnattractive.
Again, do her looks negate the months you've spent falling for her?
Do you dump her?

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

Thanks for answering.

Dani



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User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 07:18:30 PM
Half mad wrote;-
"You don't sound angry anymore.
You cute? Wanna *****?"
You are badly named. 'Loud mouthed and ignorant *****' suits you
better.
Dani is a friend of mine, and all girls have the right to live without
sexually frustrated ego-centric worms like you making such direct
remarks.
Since you are so fond of 'the' word, I'll use it to you.
*****.
Werewolfy
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User: "Su Zanadu"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 09:41:51 PM
Half-mad sounds like a gross pig and I doubt he has EVER had any female
companionship to speak of.
Probably why he's half-mad. If he broke his right hand he'd be called
COMPLETELY PISSED! ;)
(Ricky, Pissed is slang for angry in America , nothing to do with being
drunk.)
:)
SuZanne
.


User: ""

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 01:36:58 PM
Lightwing Wrote:
It is people like you "HALF-MAD" that make the sanctity of marriage a
"JOKE" and it is people like you "HALF-MAD" that are causing others to
error as they simply do not understand the *NEED* for these families to
be "UNITED" and under the *BLESSING* of "GOD"!!!
I for one will be "THANKFUL" when *PEOPLE* like "HALF-MAD" are
*NOLONGER* part of "OUR" lives and living off of "OUR" resources that
*GOD* provided for "HIS" *PEOPLE*!!! *YOU* give "LOVE" a *BAD*
"NAME"!!!
Lightwing
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 06:36:32 PM
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:28:54 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dani wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:30:44 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:


For the gorgeous lady, depends on if she puts out. If so, then she goes
away when the sex gets boring.



Well, my first inclination is to get angry at you, but this is a poll
and I do want nothing but honesty.

Alright.. let's see. That really isn't what I asked, but.. why would
you get rid of her if the sex is good? And if you think it's getting
boring can't you find ways to spice it up if she's gorgeous that
shouldn't be too hard. There are ways of spicing up...don't want to
get too graphic here - but use your imagination.

Get as angry as you like, makes no difference to me.
If the sex is good, and stays good, with spicing up, or whatever, then
she would stay. If it was to become the same old routine, and there was
no spicing up, then it could easily get boring.

You say below that you're married so I'm assuming the sex never got
boring in your case. How many years have you been married?

So, basically you see women as sex objects only? Have you ever been
in love? Would you ever consider a serious relationship?
Were you hurt once and fear giving your heart away again?

Erm, I'm married. To somebody with a good personality. She does not
look at all bad, but she won't be winning Miss Universe any time soon.
In my past, I went after the cute little hardbody women. Usually in the
late high school to college age. They were lots of fun, and were
gorgeous. But after awhile, it was almost painful listening to most of
them speak.

For the "nice personality", depends on how bad she looks. If it's a
case of call Ripley's Believe It Or Not, then go back online, and stay
there. If it's just not quite good enough to be average, then
personality can make up for it.



This sound a lot better than your first statement. I could be wrong
but do you "fear" gorgeous women for one reason or another? That is
not uncommon, you know. My ex-husband told me that the
next girlfriend he gets will be ugly because he said I was too
"high maintenence" and she won't hurt him.

I don't fear them, no. But there is always that thought in the back of
the mind that they are a bit more likely to cheat due to more
opportunities. I still believe that at least one of my ex's did cheat
on me. I could be wrong, and it doesn't matter anymore, but that's what
I think.

You're not alone.. many men feel the same. My ex told me that his
next girlfriend will be ugly (lol)..

So, you feel personality is more important than looks?


In the long run, yes. Short term, no.



Looks open doors. Personality keeps the door open.



Right on! Good for you, Sir.

You don't sound angry anymore.

'Cause I'm not.

You cute?

I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder.

Wanna *****?

I thought you said you're married?
The sex never got boring then?
Oh and I wouldn't ***** you even if this is really Kid Rock or Bruce
Willis behind the screen pretending to be someone called "Half-Mad" -
because of your ATTITUDE!
Dani
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User: "Half-Mad"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 07:24:45 PM
Dani wrote:

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:28:54 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:


Dani wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:30:44 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:



For the gorgeous lady, depends on if she puts out. If so, then she goes
away when the sex gets boring.



Well, my first inclination is to get angry at you, but this is a poll
and I do want nothing but honesty.

Alright.. let's see. That really isn't what I asked, but.. why would
you get rid of her if the sex is good? And if you think it's getting
boring can't you find ways to spice it up if she's gorgeous that
shouldn't be too hard. There are ways of spicing up...don't want to
get too graphic here - but use your imagination.



Get as angry as you like, makes no difference to me.
If the sex is good, and stays good, with spicing up, or whatever, then
she would stay. If it was to become the same old routine, and there was
no spicing up, then it could easily get boring.



You say below that you're married so I'm assuming the sex never got
boring in your case. How many years have you been married?


So, basically you see women as sex objects only? Have you ever been
in love? Would you ever consider a serious relationship?



Were you hurt once and fear giving your heart away again?



Erm, I'm married. To somebody with a good personality. She does not
look at all bad, but she won't be winning Miss Universe any time soon.
In my past, I went after the cute little hardbody women. Usually in the
late high school to college age. They were lots of fun, and were
gorgeous. But after awhile, it was almost painful listening to most of
them speak.

For the "nice personality", depends on how bad she looks. If it's a
case of call Ripley's Believe It Or Not, then go back online, and stay
there. If it's just not quite good enough to be average, then
personality can make up for it.



This sound a lot better than your first statement. I could be wrong
but do you "fear" gorgeous women for one reason or another? That is
not uncommon, you know. My ex-husband told me that the
next girlfriend he gets will be ugly because he said I was too
"high maintenence" and she won't hurt him.



I don't fear them, no. But there is always that thought in the back of
the mind that they are a bit more likely to cheat due to more
opportunities. I still believe that at least one of my ex's did cheat
on me. I could be wrong, and it doesn't matter anymore, but that's what
I think.



You're not alone.. many men feel the same. My ex told me that his
next girlfriend will be ugly (lol)..


So, you feel personality is more important than looks?


In the long run, yes. Short term, no.



Looks open doors. Personality keeps the door open.



Right on! Good for you, Sir.



You don't sound angry anymore.



'Cause I'm not.


You cute?



I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder.


Wanna *****?



I thought you said you're married?

The sex never got boring then?

Oh and I wouldn't ***** you even if this is really Kid Rock or Bruce
Willis behind the screen pretending to be someone called "Half-Mad" -
because of your ATTITUDE!

Dani

Been married for one year, we lived together for many years before that
though. No, it's not boring.
Yes, I'm married. I was attempting to put you back in the angry mood
again. I'm an *****, I know I'm an *****. I like being an *****.
The hours are good, and there's no heavy lifting. Besides, I've been
told, in this newsgroup, that I'm going to pergatory anyway. I may as
well have fun on the way there.
My attitude? I have had sex with many women because of the statement,
"Hi, I'm horny, wanna *****?" About 95-98% of the women flat out reject
such a statement. The remaining 2 to 5% are usually those willing to
try anything.
.
User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 10:28:47 PM

"Hi, I'm horny, wanna *****?" About 95-98% of the women flat out reject such a statement. The
remaining 2 to 5% are usually those willing to try anything.

i tink u git a lot of weemin who hav bad rashz or genitil wartz. u might want to chek wit a docter.
weemin who are willing too tri anyting hav donne everyting wit a lot of differnt guyz. yud hav no
luc wit dani wit dat kind of ***** on line. shez a gud holesum woomin. i tink sheed tell u to go away.
eatter dat or sheed kik u in your leetel testez sac.
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User: "Su Zanadu"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 10:00:46 PM

Half-mad wrote:
The remaining 2 to 5% are usually those
willing to try anything.

"willing to try anything."
OBVIOUSLY!
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User: ""

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 09:02:01 PM
Lightwing Wrote:
*YOU* "ARE" *CORRECT* "ABOUT" *ONE* "THING"... *YOU* "ARE" *ON* "YOUR"
*WAY* "TO" *PURGATORY*!!!
Lightwing
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User: ""

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 10:02:33 PM
Lightwing Wrote:
*YOU* "ARE" *CORRECT* "ABOUT" *ONE* "THING"... *YOU* "ARE" *ON* "YOUR"
*WAY* "TO" *PURGATORY*!!!
Lightwing
.

User: "Dani"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 11:50:34 PM
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:24:45 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dani wrote:

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:28:54 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:


Dani wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:30:44 -0400, Half-Mad <half.mad@gmail.com>
wrote:



For the gorgeous lady, depends on if she puts out. If so, then she goes
away when the sex gets boring.



Well, my first inclination is to get angry at you, but this is a poll
and I do want nothing but honesty.

Alright.. let's see. That really isn't what I asked, but.. why would
you get rid of her if the sex is good? And if you think it's getting
boring can't you find ways to spice it up if she's gorgeous that
shouldn't be too hard. There are ways of spicing up...don't want to
get too graphic here - but use your imagination.



Get as angry as you like, makes no difference to me.
If the sex is good, and stays good, with spicing up, or whatever, then
she would stay. If it was to become the same old routine, and there was
no spicing up, then it could easily get boring.



You say below that you're married so I'm assuming the sex never got
boring in your case. How many years have you been married?


So, basically you see women as sex objects only? Have you ever been
in love? Would you ever consider a serious relationship?



Were you hurt once and fear giving your heart away again?



Erm, I'm married. To somebody with a good personality. She does not
look at all bad, but she won't be winning Miss Universe any time soon.
In my past, I went after the cute little hardbody women. Usually in the
late high school to college age. They were lots of fun, and were
gorgeous. But after awhile, it was almost painful listening to most of
them speak.

For the "nice personality", depends on how bad she looks. If it's a
case of call Ripley's Believe It Or Not, then go back online, and stay
there. If it's just not quite good enough to be average, then
personality can make up for it.



This sound a lot better than your first statement. I could be wrong
but do you "fear" gorgeous women for one reason or another? That is
not uncommon, you know. My ex-husband told me that the
next girlfriend he gets will be ugly because he said I was too
"high maintenence" and she won't hurt him.



I don't fear them, no. But there is always that thought in the back of
the mind that they are a bit more likely to cheat due to more
opportunities. I still believe that at least one of my ex's did cheat
on me. I could be wrong, and it doesn't matter anymore, but that's what
I think.



You're not alone.. many men feel the same. My ex told me that his
next girlfriend will be ugly (lol)..


So, you feel personality is more important than looks?


In the long run, yes. Short term, no.



Looks open doors. Personality keeps the door open.



Right on! Good for you, Sir.



You don't sound angry anymore.



'Cause I'm not.


You cute?



I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder.


Wanna *****?



I thought you said you're married?

The sex never got boring then?

Oh and I wouldn't ***** you even if this is really Kid Rock or Bruce
Willis behind the screen pretending to be someone called "Half-Mad" -
because of your ATTITUDE!

Been married for one year, we lived together for many years before that
though. No, it's not boring.
Yes, I'm married. I was attempting to put you back in the angry mood
again.

Why would you want me in an angry mood?

I'm an *****, I know I'm an *****. I like being an *****.

Well we have something in common then. I'm a *****; I know I'm a
*****, and I like being a *****.

The hours are good, and there's no heavy lifting. Besides, I've been
told, in this newsgroup, that I'm going to pergatory anyway. I may as
well have fun on the way there.

I got a "citation" LOL! I haven't been told yet that I'll have to go
to trial and then to purgatory, but I was told to watch my step.
One more screw-up and I'll be thrown outta the garden.

My attitude? I have had sex with many women because of the statement,
"Hi, I'm horny, wanna *****?" About 95-98% of the women flat out reject
such a statement. The remaining 2 to 5% are usually those willing to
try anything.

If you asked a pure stranger to ***** you and she did then she is a
*****! Big-time *****. And so are you for having such nonchalant
sex with whoever, whenever. It's a good thing that you're married now
and you've settled down.
Shyte, I should've asked in my poll if you guys have ever or would
ever cheat on your girlfriend or wife. Damn it all.
Dani
.
User: "Half-Mad"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 11 Aug 2005 06:09:25 AM
Dani wrote:

Why would you want me in an angry mood?

It can be fun to watch the responses of angry people. It didn't seem to
get to you, but a few others seemed to froth at the mouth.

If you asked a pure stranger to ***** you and she did then she is a
*****! Big-time *****. And so are you for having such nonchalant
sex with whoever, whenever. It's a good thing that you're married now
and you've settled down.

When I was in my 20's, I wanted the whores. I wasn't looking to get
married. I didn't want some long lasting relationship. I just wanted
to get laid. Since then, things changed.


Shyte, I should've asked in my poll if you guys have ever or would
ever cheat on your girlfriend or wife. Damn it all.

Dani

I don't think I would. I don't look for the opportunity, and so would
likely miss it if it occured. Pretty much the only way I could find out
if I would is if a woman I find very attractive was to somehow get me a
bit aroused, then strip naked and say, "Do me now", then I could decide.
I rather doubt that will be happening anytime soon.
.



User: "Su Zanadu"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 09:51:02 PM
Dani!
You think Kid Rock is HOT? :-O
What about Johnny Knoxville? :)
John Stamos?
Keanu Reeves?
Kevin Bacon?
Rick Springfield
What about the mayor? ;)
SuZanne
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 09 Aug 2005 11:29:30 PM
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 22:51:02 -0400,
(Su Zanadu)
wrote:

Dani!
You think Kid Rock is HOT? :-O

No! But that's just the thing, I'm glad you asked because
looks vs. personality is basically what my polls are about.
Obviously I don't know Kid Rock's personality, but there is just
*something* about that guy that I love.
And he's not very good looking at all, he has stringy thin hair, his
nose is a little big - he is not Brad Pitt as far as the looks go, but
he's got something about him that I like. It wasn't until the
video/song "Picture" came out where Kid and Sheryl Crow
did their duet together that I started liking him.
He always portrayed himself as this tough "American bad *****" (that's
the name of one of his songs), then he showed his soft side in the
Picture video and I fell in love! I think he's dating Pamela
Anderson, though. But I know that Tommy Lee is Pam's *true* love
and my money would be on Tommy and Pam getting back together.

What about Johnny Knoxville? :)

No.

John Stamos?

A little.. but not my type.

Keanu Reeves?

Same as with John - he's attractive but he's not my type.

Kevin Bacon?

No.

Rick Springfield

A little.

What about the mayor? ;)

I WANT him big time! LOL! Just kidding.
Serously, now - I don't like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson.
They're all attractive but they don't have that certain *something*
about them to me. Bruce Willis and Kid Rock have that certain
something.. absolutely love both of them.
Oh and no backstreet or backyard or backporch (or whatever the hell
they call themselves) boys. No pretty boys...I *don't* like the
pretty boys at all.
If he takes longer getting ready to go out than I do.. well, nah he'd
have to go. Speaking of pretty boys, do you know that guys were
buying *pink* girl sneakers for themselves because they don't make
pink guy sneakers?
Just awful!
Dani

SuZanne

.






User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 03:00:59 AM
Just *how* important are looks, guys?
Thanks for answering.
Dani
That's quite a question Dani. I suppose beauty is in the eye of the
beholder..;)
For me, she must be pretty...but not in a 'supemodel' way. I really
dislike the classical idea of beauty. Just a pretty face, maybe tossled
hair and a touch of wickedness in a face that has some character.
All of the 'Miss World' contenders are downright ugly....to me anyway.
Being 'Natural' is high on the list of attributes. She doesn't have to
be Einstein, as long as she has an interesting personality.
She must never be too 'fond' of herself, and never too confident
either. That rules out all of those bossy high-heeled top career women.
Now, give me a rebel with tossled hair and a glint in her eyes, a
pretty face, and that's Heaven...;)
If I had an image like that of someone on line, and on meeting them
found them to be...well, to be hideous, I fancy I should
be...disappointed and escape..;)
Werewolfy
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 10:35:19 PM
On 5 Aug 2005 01:00:59 -0700, "Werewolfy" <thegrimreaper10@lycos.com>
wrote:

Just *how* important are looks, guys?
Thanks for answering.
That's quite a question Dani.

Yeah it is a bit of a loaded question. I was talking to Woods the
other day about how men view women differently than how women
view other women and I got the idea to run a poll seeing as the
majority of this group are men. I am genuinely interested in the
answers I get.
I want *pure* unabashed honesty! Whether good or bad I want to know.
See, it's good asking this way because if I ask a man to his face he
may be a little less inclined to give me nothing but absolute truth.

I suppose beauty is in the eye of the
beholder..;)

That it definitely is. Some like blondes.. some like brunettes.. some
like a little meat on the bones - some like 'em real skinny etc.
I know a guy who likes small breasts! That's sorta uncommon..most
like 'em big. I was actually a bit surprised when he told me that.
And he didn't say it because mine are small as a way of saying "Hey,
you've got little ones but I still like ya!" type thing. Not to be
conceded but mine are ..um.. not small. Which brings me to my next
point, I absolutely *loathe* when a man speaks to my breasts instead
of my eyes if you know what I mean by "talking to" ...I feel like
saying: "Hey! they don't talk back guy...I'm up here!" 'Hate that
with a passion. I actually did say that once.. a man was talking to
me, but looking at my breasts the whole time, I said: "I'M UP HERE!"
in a rather nasty voice.
There's a lot more to me than just my looks.. I wish guys could
see that. Actually, that's a lot of the reason I started this poll.
I want to get inside the male mind .. ;)

For me, she must be pretty...but not in a 'supemodel' way.

There's a lot of different ideas of pretty. Some may be cute; some
may be the wholesome type pretty - some may be a natural beauty;
some may be a Pam Anderson type of pretty (fake), some may be on
the skanky side.. and some may not be very pretty at all but their
personality makes up for it. Some may look ugly without their make-up
but transform into what would seem a totally different woman all made
up. Some know how to play up their good attributes while downplaying
their less desirable parts. Like Julie Roberts for instance, IMO
she's not that pretty when she isn't smiling, but *radiant* when she
does.

I really
dislike the classical idea of beauty.

...and it varies in different areas of the world and in different
cultures as well. Asian men seem to like very skinny women,
while black men like some meat on the bones (and a big butt!)
And in Western culture the Pam Anderson, Britney Spears look
is generally what men find desirable. Then of course we have
the French women who (some) have the hairy arm pits.. an American
man would be repulsed by that - no matter how pretty the rest of her
may be.

Just a pretty face, maybe tossled
hair and a touch of wickedness in a face that has some character.
All of the 'Miss World' contenders are downright ugly....to me anyway.

That's funny that you say that.. I feel the same way. I truly don't
find the miss world women pretty.

Being 'Natural' is high on the list of attributes.

Definitely! I feel the same way.

She doesn't have to
be Einstein, as long as she has an interesting personality.

Again, I agree. And I'm glad to hear you say that.

She must never be too 'fond' of herself, and never too confident
either. That rules out all of those bossy high-heeled top career women.

Well independence, to me, is a very attractive attribute.. especially
in a world that is generally run by men. I have much respect for
women who make it on their own and don't depend on a man.

Now, give me a rebel with tossled hair and a glint in her eyes, a
pretty face, and that's Heaven...;)

....hehe ;)

If I had an image like that of someone on line, and on meeting them
found them to be...well, to be hideous, I fancy I should
be...disappointed and escape..;)

But what if you *really* really liked her, Ricky. Would the looks
negate everything else?
Dani

Werewolfy

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User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 02:27:03 AM
But what if you *really* really liked her, Ricky. Would the looks
negate everything else?
Dani
Ahhh...here is the huge question. The reason for the poll. It's also
the hardest to answer with the honesty needed.
I will though...
I was descibing my 'ideal' Dani. Marriage is very long-term and, of
course, those appealing doe-eyed tom-boy looks, are slowly replaced
through age.
When looking for a person to spend your life with, things change a lot.
My first reply concerned itself with...shorter..term desires..;)
A prospective wife/husband has to possess all of those qualities that
will make the marriage last. Understanding, kindness, humour and
dedication are prominent amongst those.
The most important of all though, is that you like one-another as
friends. That's the only way a marriage will last. Friends first,
lovers second.
So, yes, if I am looking for someone to marry, then those are the
'must's'.
In any event, a man who spends his time staring at breasts..or legs..is
a waste of time. Just a pervert with no interest in you as a person.
I prefer the girl's face. The eyes are the gateway to the soul and
reveal so much. The grin is all-informative. A lot of what is not said
in any conversation is to be found by looking at the face.
I've 'enjoyed' both aspects. The girl I married when I was 22 was 18
years old, and quite stunning to look at. That ended in divorce.
Everyone else thought she was 'stunning' too!
The second time I was more...discerning. She was nice..certainly fairly
pretty, and had the most stable and understanding character. Quite
extra-ordinary qualities for her age (She was 20..I was 37) We were
friends too.
22 years later, we still are friends and married. That sums it up I
fancy..;)
Ricky
.


User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 05:14:56 PM
Werewolfy wrote:

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

Thanks for answering.
Dani

That's quite a question Dani. I suppose beauty is in the eye of the
beholder..;)
For me, she must be pretty...but not in a 'supemodel' way. I really
dislike the classical idea of beauty. Just a pretty face, maybe tossled
hair and a touch of wickedness in a face that has some character.
All of the 'Miss World' contenders are downright ugly....to me anyway.

Being 'Natural' is high on the list of attributes. She doesn't have to
be Einstein, as long as she has an interesting personality.

She must never be too 'fond' of herself, and never too confident
either. That rules out all of those bossy high-heeled top career women.

Now, give me a rebel with tossled hair and a glint in her eyes, a
pretty face, and that's Heaven...;)

Except .... rebels are usually very confident, else how could they have
the confidence to rebel? Seems to go against your previous statement.
Woods

If I had an image like that of someone on line, and on meeting them
found them to be...well, to be hideous, I fancy I should
be...disappointed and escape..;)

Werewolfy

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User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 01:55:30 AM
"Except .... rebels are usually very confident, else how could they
have
the confidence to rebel? Seems to go against your previous statement"
Not really. Rebels and confidence are not truly associated. In
'confidence', I mean those 'snappy, loud, bossy women' who are often
found as Company directors or something similar.
Confidence for me, is just an ability to eat a bag of chips in the
street without embarassment.
The nice thing about being a rebel is the danger factor. You never
quite know how people will react, thus confidence isn't part of that
equation.
Not too much of a rebel. Just when you see a sign that say's, 'Don't
walk on the grass'...and it looks both pleasent and more direct to do
so, then ignore the sign..;)
Ricky
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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 06 Aug 2005 07:47:57 AM
Werewolfy wrote:

"Except .... rebels are usually very confident, else how could they
have
the confidence to rebel? Seems to go against your previous statement"

Not really. Rebels and confidence are not truly associated. In
'confidence', I mean those 'snappy, loud, bossy women' who are often
found as Company directors or something similar.

Oh, okay. They aren't necessarily "confident", they're just bitches who
rose up. You get the same type who haven't made it, too.

Confidence for me, is just an ability to eat a bag of chips in the
street without embarassment.

Huh? Why would anyone be embarrassed to eat in public?


The nice thing about being a rebel is the danger factor. You never
quite know how people will react, thus confidence isn't part of that
equation.

Okay, I gotcha.


Not too much of a rebel. Just when you see a sign that say's, 'Don't
walk on the grass'...and it looks both pleasent and more direct to do
so, then ignore the sign..;)

Ah, well, that leaves me out. I have a bug about respecting other
people's property rights and wishes. (Especially when it comes to
introducing zoning about what people can do on their property).
Woods


Ricky

Woods
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User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: POLL: for the men here.. 05 Aug 2005 11:54:43 PM
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message news:AxRIe.2792$EX.1379@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Werewolfy wrote:

Just *how* important are looks, guys?

Thanks for answering.
Dani

That's quite a question Dani. I suppose beauty is in the eye of the
beholder..;)
For me, she must be pretty...but not in a 'supemodel' way. I really
dislike the classical idea of beauty. Just a pretty face, maybe tossled
hair and a touch of wickedness in a face that has some character.
All of the 'Miss World' contenders are downright ugly....to me anyway.

Being 'Natural' is high on the list of attributes. She doesn't have to
be Einstein, as long as she has an interesting personality.

She must never be too 'fond' of herself, and never too confident
either. That rules out all of those bossy high-heeled top career women.

Now, give me a rebel with tossled hair and a glint in her eyes, a
pretty face, and that's Heaven...;)


Except .... rebels are usually very confident, else how could they have the confidence to rebel?
Seems to go against your previous statement.

I find most rebels poor for the long run. They talk a good story but when tough times come they're
no where to be found. They also tend to be cowards. Prisons are filled with rebels.


Woods

If I had an image like that of someone on line, and on meeting them
found them to be...well, to be hideous, I fancy I should
be...disappointed and escape..;) Werewolfy

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