And a history lesson.
Scott Ritter with a long but thought provoking history lesson about various
elements in the Moslem past and present.
"A pop quiz, consisting of one question in two parts. Most readers might
complain that it is not realistic to expect mainstream America to possess
the knowledge necessary to achieve the level of comprehension required to
pass this quiz. I agree. However, since the mission of the United States
in Iraq has shifted from disarming Saddam to installing democracy to
creating stability, I think it only fair that the American people be asked
about those elements that are most relevant to the issue, namely the Shiite
and Sunni faithful and how they interact with one another.
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000 U.S.
troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to redressing the
issues raised in this article. And if you concur that the reality of Iraq
is far too complicated to be understood by the average American, yet alone
cured by the dispatch of additional troops, then we have a collective
responsibility to ask what the hell we are doing in that country to begin
with. If this doesn't represent a clarion call for bringing our men and
women home, nothing does. "
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20070323_calling_out_idiot_america/
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24 Mar 2007 11:32:57 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "John Lemke"
<jflemke@locallink.net> Spat the Words
And a history lesson.
Scott Ritter with a long but thought provoking history lesson about
various elements in the Moslem past and present.
"A pop quiz, consisting of one question in two parts. Most readers
might complain that it is not realistic to expect mainstream America to
possess the knowledge necessary to achieve the level of comprehension
required to pass this quiz. I agree. However, since the mission of the
United States in Iraq has shifted from disarming Saddam to installing
democracy to creating stability, I think it only fair that the American
people be asked about those elements that are most relevant to the
issue, namely the Shiite and Sunni faithful and how they interact with
one another.
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000 U.S.
troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to redressing
the issues raised in this article.
... but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
And if you concur that the reality
of Iraq is far too complicated to be understood by the average American,
yet alone cured by the dispatch of additional troops, then we have a
collective responsibility to ask what the hell we are doing in that
country to begin with. If this doesn't represent a clarion call for
bringing our men and women home, nothing does. "
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20070323_calling_out_idiot_america/
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24 Mar 2007 01:57:48 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98FD6B4D08CE3rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
At least he's consistent in his ignorance and error. Just like his boys at
the top.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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24 Mar 2007 02:01:11 PM |
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On Mar 24, 10:57 am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98FD6B4D08CE3rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
At least he's consistent in his ignorance and error. Just like his boys at
the top.
Why are you responding to my post? I thought you had me on killfile.
And by the way, if you believe Randolph's lies, why don't you prove
him correct and who where I've made any statement that even remotely
resembles Randolph's lies?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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24 Mar 2007 11:41:47 AM |
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On Mar 24, 8:32 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "John Lemke"
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words
And a history lesson.
Scott Ritter with a long but thought provoking history lesson about
various elements in the Moslem past and present.
"A pop quiz, consisting of one question in two parts. Most readers
might complain that it is not realistic to expect mainstream America to
possess the knowledge necessary to achieve the level of comprehension
required to pass this quiz. I agree. However, since the mission of the
United States in Iraq has shifted from disarming Saddam to installing
democracy to creating stability, I think it only fair that the American
people be asked about those elements that are most relevant to the
issue, namely the Shiite and Sunni faithful and how they interact with
one another.
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000 U.S.
troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to redressing
the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect,
Liar.
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24 Mar 2007 12:32:52 PM |
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On Mar 24, 9:32 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "John Lemke"
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words
And a history lesson.
Scott Ritter with a long but thought provoking history lesson about
various elements in the Moslem past and present.
"A pop quiz, consisting of one question in two parts. Most readers
might complain that it is not realistic to expect mainstream America to
possess the knowledge necessary to achieve the level of comprehension
required to pass this quiz. I agree. However, since the mission of the
United States in Iraq has shifted from disarming Saddam to installing
democracy to creating stability, I think it only fair that the American
people be asked about those elements that are most relevant to the
issue, namely the Shiite and Sunni faithful and how they interact with
one another.
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000 U.S.
troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to redressing
the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
And if you concur that the reality
of Iraq is far too complicated to be understood by the average American,
yet alone cured by the dispatch of additional troops, then we have a
collective responsibility to ask what the hell we are doing in that
country to begin with. If this doesn't represent a clarion call for
bringing our men and women home, nothing does. "
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20070323_calling_out_idiot_america/- Hide quoted text -
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The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
You set yourself up for a weird trip into Stevie's hellish ego-
centered vortex, as we all have been sucked into at some time, and
subject to having him recreate, obfuscate, dodge and dance around the
content and meaning of his sub-divine posts. No matter how accurate
the characterization of his posts might be, you'll usually get the
sneering denial. And a long agonizing defense. Stevie doesn't like you
to provide an analysis of what he says mainly because no mortal on
earth can really understand the intellectual complexity, the rational
exactness, the cool emotional evaluative mind of The Superior Steven.
He's beyond any interpretation. He simply IS right as rain...and you
must accept his uncanny morphing versions of his statements. What he
says here is simply representative of a state of human intellectual
and moral near-perfection. He is...The Saintly, Superior Steven. This
is a Frontal Lobe Locked-in-Tight Christian whose self-righteousness
precludes his acceptance of any ordinary criticism or analysis from us
inferior hairy bipeds. We haven't evolved as far as The Steven.
Perhaps we never will...:)~
Docrodile
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24 Mar 2007 01:40:40 PM |
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On Mar 24, 9:32 am, "Docrodile" <cmdrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 9:32 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "John Lemke"
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words
And a history lesson.
Scott Ritter with a long but thought provoking history lesson about
various elements in the Moslem past and present.
"A pop quiz, consisting of one question in two parts. Most readers
might complain that it is not realistic to expect mainstream America to
possess the knowledge necessary to achieve the level of comprehension
required to pass this quiz. I agree. However, since the mission of the
United States in Iraq has shifted from disarming Saddam to installing
democracy to creating stability, I think it only fair that the American
people be asked about those elements that are most relevant to the
issue, namely the Shiite and Sunni faithful and how they interact with
one another.
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000 U.S.
troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to redressing
the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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24 Mar 2007 03:14:21 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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24 Mar 2007 05:05:33 PM |
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On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
No, I detest the terrorist thugs you have referred to as freedom
fighters. Calling them freedom fighters literally nauseates me. Which
means YOU nauseate me, you lying terrorist supporter.
Do you know how many children per month were dying in Iraq because of
the corrupt UN Oil for Food program? And do you know what torture was
like under Saddam's sadistic tyranny? Here's an example:
[excerpt] An Iraqi soldier, who according to the facility's records
witnessed the beatings, said interrogators regularly used pliers to
remove men's teeth, electric prods to shock men's genitals and drills
to cut holes in their ankles.
In one instance, the soldier recalled, he witnessed a Kuwaiti soldier,
who had been captured during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, being forced
to sit on a broken Pepsi bottle. The man was removed from the bottle
only after it filled up with his blood, the soldier said. He said the
man later died.
"I have seen interrogators break the heads of men with baseball bats,
pour salt into wounds and rape wives in front of their husbands," said
former Iraqi soldier Ali Iyad Kareen, 41.
He then revealed dozens of Polaroid pictures of beaten and dead Iraqis
from the directorate's files.
The beatings continued until the last days of the old government.
Iraqi Maj. Shakir Hamid, 33, and his two brothers said they were
arrested March 5 by military intelligence police and charged with
being informants for the CIA. They were released by sympathetic Iraqi
soldiers last week, Hamid said.
He and his two brothers, Majeed and Shakeer, have cigarette burns on
their wrists, the bottoms of their feet and their inner thighs. He
pointed out dried blood stains on the cement floor of several jail
cells. "The interrogators kept telling me, 'Admit it, you work for the
Americans, don't you?' " Hamid said. "Under Saddam, you were found
guilty whether or not there was any evidence against you." [end
excerpt]
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-13-saddam-secrets-usat_x.htm
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24 Mar 2007 07:00:57 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional
20,000 U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come
close to redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation,
Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
No, I detest the terrorist thugs you have referred to as freedom
fighters. Calling them freedom fighters literally nauseates me. Which
means YOU nauseate me, you lying terrorist supporter.
Do you know how many children per month were dying in Iraq because of
the corrupt UN Oil for Food program? And do you know what torture was
like under Saddam's sadistic tyranny? Here's an example:
[excerpt] An Iraqi soldier, who according to the facility's records
witnessed the beatings, said interrogators regularly used pliers to
remove men's teeth, electric prods to shock men's genitals and drills
to cut holes in their ankles.
In one instance, the soldier recalled, he witnessed a Kuwaiti soldier,
who had been captured during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, being forced
to sit on a broken Pepsi bottle. The man was removed from the bottle
only after it filled up with his blood, the soldier said. He said the
man later died.
"I have seen interrogators break the heads of men with baseball bats,
pour salt into wounds and rape wives in front of their husbands," said
former Iraqi soldier Ali Iyad Kareen, 41.
He then revealed dozens of Polaroid pictures of beaten and dead Iraqis
from the directorate's files.
The beatings continued until the last days of the old government.
Iraqi Maj. Shakir Hamid, 33, and his two brothers said they were
arrested March 5 by military intelligence police and charged with
being informants for the CIA. They were released by sympathetic Iraqi
soldiers last week, Hamid said.
He and his two brothers, Majeed and Shakeer, have cigarette burns on
their wrists, the bottoms of their feet and their inner thighs. He
pointed out dried blood stains on the cement floor of several jail
cells. "The interrogators kept telling me, 'Admit it, you work for the
Americans, don't you?' " Hamid said. "Under Saddam, you were found
guilty whether or not there was any evidence against you." [end
excerpt]
... and this has what to do with 9-11 and WMD ? Thank you for
making my point so nicely stevie. The Iraqis were not a threat
to us, they didn't attack us, and they were doing just fine
without us there.
I asked you why you say the Iraqis are better off now than
they were under Saddam, and your answer pretty much confirms
what I already knew.. they're no better or worse off now than
under Saddam.. they're still getting beaten, tortured, and
killed now that US troops are there, and fear of abduction
by masked men is at least as bad if not worse now than under
Saddam. I have a hunch this is due more to mismanagement of
the post-invasion period than to the invasion as such. You
support an inept, corrupt administration stevie.. congratulations !
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-13-saddam-secrets-
usat_x.
htm
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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24 Mar 2007 08:07:08 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98FDB7417954Errfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
I asked you why you say the Iraqis are better off now than
they were under Saddam, and your answer pretty much confirms
what I already knew.. they're no better or worse off now than
under Saddam.. they're still getting beaten, tortured, and
killed now that US troops are there, and fear of abduction
by masked men is at least as bad if not worse now than under
Saddam. I have a hunch this is due more to mismanagement of
the post-invasion period than to the invasion as such. You
support an inept, corrupt administration stevie.. congratulations !
Don't they have one freedom now that they didn't have under Saddam? The
freedom to flee? Aren't there 1.5 - 2 million Iraqis that have run from
Iraq since the invasion?
Or is it that they could run from Saddam but didn't in such huge numbers?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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24 Mar 2007 09:33:32 PM |
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On Mar 24, 5:07 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98FDB7417954Errfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
I asked you why you say the Iraqis are better off now than
they were under Saddam, and your answer pretty much confirms
what I already knew.. they're no better or worse off now than
under Saddam.. they're still getting beaten, tortured, and
killed now that US troops are there, and fear of abduction
by masked men is at least as bad if not worse now than under
Saddam. I have a hunch this is due more to mismanagement of
the post-invasion period than to the invasion as such. You
support an inept, corrupt administration stevie.. congratulations !
Don't they have one freedom now that they didn't have under Saddam? The
freedom to flee? Aren't there 1.5 - 2 million Iraqis that have run from
Iraq since the invasion?
Or is it that they could run from Saddam but didn't in such huge numbers?
Are you serious? You really don't know? How can anyone be so poorly
informed, and pretend to have something intelligent to say?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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24 Mar 2007 07:18:27 PM |
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On Mar 24, 4:00 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional
20,000 U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come
close to redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation,
Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
No, I detest the terrorist thugs you have referred to as freedom
fighters. Calling them freedom fighters literally nauseates me. Which
means YOU nauseate me, you lying terrorist supporter.
Do you know how many children per month were dying in Iraq because of
the corrupt UN Oil for Food program? And do you know what torture was
like under Saddam's sadistic tyranny? Here's an example:
[excerpt] An Iraqi soldier, who according to the facility's records
witnessed the beatings, said interrogators regularly used pliers to
remove men's teeth, electric prods to shock men's genitals and drills
to cut holes in their ankles.
In one instance, the soldier recalled, he witnessed a Kuwaiti soldier,
who had been captured during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, being forced
to sit on a broken Pepsi bottle. The man was removed from the bottle
only after it filled up with his blood, the soldier said. He said the
man later died.
"I have seen interrogators break the heads of men with baseball bats,
pour salt into wounds and rape wives in front of their husbands," said
former Iraqi soldier Ali Iyad Kareen, 41.
He then revealed dozens of Polaroid pictures of beaten and dead Iraqis
from the directorate's files.
The beatings continued until the last days of the old government.
Iraqi Maj. Shakir Hamid, 33, and his two brothers said they were
arrested March 5 by military intelligence police and charged with
being informants for the CIA. They were released by sympathetic Iraqi
soldiers last week, Hamid said.
He and his two brothers, Majeed and Shakeer, have cigarette burns on
their wrists, the bottoms of their feet and their inner thighs. He
pointed out dried blood stains on the cement floor of several jail
cells. "The interrogators kept telling me, 'Admit it, you work for the
Americans, don't you?' " Hamid said. "Under Saddam, you were found
guilty whether or not there was any evidence against you." [end
excerpt]
.. and this has what to do with 9-11 and WMD ? Thank you for
making my point so nicely stevie. The Iraqis were not a threat
to us, they didn't attack us, and they were doing just fine
without us there.
Uh, are you losing it or did you change the subject intentionally?
Here is what you said, to which I responded with the above:
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
And you respond to my reply with "what does this have to do with 9-11
and WMD" -- are you drinking?
I asked you why you say the Iraqis are better off now than
they were under Saddam, and your answer pretty much confirms
what I already knew.. they're no better or worse off now than
under Saddam.. they're still getting beaten, tortured, and
killed now that US troops are there, and fear of abduction
by masked men is at least as bad if not worse now than under
Saddam. I have a hunch this is due more to mismanagement of
the post-invasion period than to the invasion as such. You
support an inept, corrupt administration stevie.. congratulations !
No, actually I'm not happy with some of the decisions made immediately
after the removal of Saddam. I've made those remarks on this group in
the past. Which reminds me, how in hell did the Democrats blow the
2004 presidential election? I swear, I was expecting Kerry to win. I
said as much on the group at the time. I still can't believe it. What
a bunch of inept dolts the Democratic Party must be.
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24 Mar 2007 05:43:26 PM |
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On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other. What the
idiot yanks have done is unleashed sectarian violence.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
No, I detest the terrorist thugs you have referred to as freedom
fighters. Calling them freedom fighters literally nauseates me. Which
means YOU nauseate me, you lying terrorist supporter.
Yeah, the same old rhetoric that the monkey and his cronies use.
Do you know how many children per month were dying in Iraq because of
the corrupt UN Oil for Food program? And do you know what torture was
like under Saddam's sadistic tyranny? Here's an example:
Because of the oil for food program? They were dying because of the
sanctions insisted upon by the yanks you twat!
[excerpt] An Iraqi soldier, who according to the facility's records
witnessed the beatings, said interrogators regularly used pliers to
remove men's teeth, electric prods to shock men's genitals and drills
to cut holes in their ankles.
Yeah! Now the yanks have their "extraordinary rendition" *****
which puts suspects, (SUSPECTS), in the hands of countries who do the
same things.
In one instance, the soldier recalled, he witnessed a Kuwaiti soldier,
who had been captured during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, being forced
to sit on a broken Pepsi bottle. The man was removed from the bottle
only after it filled up with his blood, the soldier said. He said the
man later died.
Makes one think of Abu Ghrayb doesn't it douglas and the good old
yanks.
"I have seen interrogators break the heads of men with baseball bats,
pour salt into wounds and rape wives in front of their husbands," said
former Iraqi soldier Ali Iyad Kareen, 41.
He then revealed dozens of Polaroid pictures of beaten and dead Iraqis
from the directorate's files.
The beatings continued until the last days of the old government.
Iraqi Maj. Shakir Hamid, 33, and his two brothers said they were
arrested March 5 by military intelligence police and charged with
being informants for the CIA. They were released by sympathetic Iraqi
soldiers last week, Hamid said.
He and his two brothers, Majeed and Shakeer, have cigarette burns on
their wrists, the bottoms of their feet and their inner thighs. He
pointed out dried blood stains on the cement floor of several jail
cells. "The interrogators kept telling me, 'Admit it, you work for the
Americans, don't you?' " Hamid said. "Under Saddam, you were found
guilty whether or not there was any evidence against you." [end
excerpt]
There's another place like that...oh what's it called...it's on the
tip of my tongue...yeah Guantanamo bay! It's in Cuba. There one is
automatically guilty without trial!
WH
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
24 Mar 2007 06:56:49 PM |
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On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
What the idiot yanks have done is unleashed sectarian violence.
Yes, Saddam was holding a lid on that violence by torturing and
filling mass graves. Some of the violence that is occurring now is
retribution aimed at Saddam's Baathists. But of course you already
know that.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
No, I detest the terrorist thugs you have referred to as freedom
fighters. Calling them freedom fighters literally nauseates me. Which
means YOU nauseate me, you lying terrorist supporter.
Yeah, the same old rhetoric that the monkey and his cronies use.
I expect you to support terrorist thugs. It suits you.
Do you know how many children per month were dying in Iraq because of
the corrupt UN Oil for Food program? And do you know what torture was
like under Saddam's sadistic tyranny? Here's an example:
Because of the oil for food program? They were dying because of the
sanctions insisted upon by the yanks you twat!
Which the Oil for Food program was intended to correct. Instead, with
the help of some of his more corrupt Western allies (probably you
among them), he thwarted the intent of the Oil for Food program and
enriched himself at the expense of the Iraqi people.
[excerpt] An Iraqi soldier, who according to the facility's records
witnessed the beatings, said interrogators regularly used pliers to
remove men's teeth, electric prods to shock men's genitals and drills
to cut holes in their ankles.
Yeah! Now the yanks have their "extraordinary rendition" *****
which puts suspects, (SUSPECTS), in the hands of countries who do the
same things.
I'm sorry there are countries that do the same thing. I wish they
could ALL be put out of business. I do not approve of sending anyone
to a barbaric place (such as Egypt, for instance) where they might be
tortured. I believe that program, begun during the Clinton
administration, has fallen out of favor with the current
administration.
In one instance, the soldier recalled, he witnessed a Kuwaiti soldier,
who had been captured during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, being forced
to sit on a broken Pepsi bottle. The man was removed from the bottle
only after it filled up with his blood, the soldier said. He said the
man later died.
Makes one think of Abu Ghrayb doesn't it douglas
Yes. In fact, that's probably exactly where that incident took place,
under Saddam's guidance.
and the good old yanks.
Do you have a cite that shows something like that ever happening there
after Saddam was removed from power? Something that rises to that
level of horror?
"I have seen interrogators break the heads of men with baseball bats,
pour salt into wounds and rape wives in front of their husbands," said
former Iraqi soldier Ali Iyad Kareen, 41.
He then revealed dozens of Polaroid pictures of beaten and dead Iraqis
from the directorate's files.
The beatings continued until the last days of the old government.
Iraqi Maj. Shakir Hamid, 33, and his two brothers said they were
arrested March 5 by military intelligence police and charged with
being informants for the CIA. They were released by sympathetic Iraqi
soldiers last week, Hamid said.
He and his two brothers, Majeed and Shakeer, have cigarette burns on
their wrists, the bottoms of their feet and their inner thighs. He
pointed out dried blood stains on the cement floor of several jail
cells. "The interrogators kept telling me, 'Admit it, you work for the
Americans, don't you?' " Hamid said. "Under Saddam, you were found
guilty whether or not there was any evidence against you." [end
excerpt]
There's another place like that...oh what's it called...it's on the
tip of my tongue...yeah Guantanamo bay! It's in Cuba. There one is
automatically guilty without trial!
Can you show documentation that detainees at Guantanamo are beaten,
burned with cigarettes, and leave dried blood on the floor? Or are
they given proper food and medicine, Qurans and prayer rugs? And told
which way to kneel so they're facing in the right direction?
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| User: "WH" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
24 Mar 2007 07:40:20 PM |
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On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional=
20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come clo=
se to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is th=
at
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Per=
seid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic group.
He was a tyrant, no doubt about it and was a nut. But that's not
really the point is it? The yanks invaded the country on the lies that
he was capable of and thought of attacking America and/or Israel and/
or Great Britain. ***** sakes man they helped him to get into power in
Iraq.
What the idiot yanks have done is unleashed sectarian violence.
Yes, Saddam was holding a lid on that violence by torturing and
filling mass graves. Some of the violence that is occurring now is
retribution aimed at Saddam's Baathists. But of course you already
know that.
*****! There is a civil war in Iraq today, nothing to do with the
Baathists. It's a civil war brought on by the cowardly yanks invading
to control the oil.
Come on stevie, either they're better off now or they're not..
either they like power drills through their chest or they don't.
No, I detest the terrorist thugs you have referred to as freedom
fighters. Calling them freedom fighters literally nauseates me. Which
means YOU nauseate me, you lying terrorist supporter.
Yeah, the same old rhetoric that the monkey and his cronies use.
I expect you to support terrorist thugs. It suits you.
Hey, invade my country and I'll fuckin' fight you you *****! That's my
right and my fuckin' duty! You'de of course call me a terrorist then
too. But what you assholes seem not to understand is that if you
invade and occupy a country then there'll be people who don't like
it...they will fight you. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom
fighter. You idiots can label freedom fighters as you wish but you'll
never take away what it really is!
Do you know how many children per month were dying in Iraq because of
the corrupt UN Oil for Food program? And do you know what torture was
like under Saddam's sadistic tyranny? Here's an example:
Because of the oil for food program? They were dying because of the
sanctions insisted upon by the yanks you twat!
Which the Oil for Food program was intended to correct. Instead, with
the help of some of his more corrupt Western allies (probably you
among them), he thwarted the intent of the Oil for Food program and
enriched himself at the expense of the Iraqi people.
*****! It was the yankie insisted on sanctions that were the reason
for the kids dying. The world wanted to stop the sanctions because of
this but the fuckin' yanks insisted on them continuing
[excerpt] An Iraqi soldier, who according to the facility's records
witnessed the beatings, said interrogators regularly used pliers to
remove men's teeth, electric prods to shock men's genitals and drills
to cut holes in their ankles.
Yeah! Now the yanks have their "extraordinary rendition" *****
which puts suspects, (SUSPECTS), in the hands of countries who do the
same things.
I'm sorry there are countries that do the same thing. I wish they
could ALL be put out of business. I do not approve of sending anyone
to a barbaric place (such as Egypt, for instance) where they might be
tortured. I believe that program, begun during the Clinton
administration, has fallen out of favor with the current
administration.
Yeah blame Clinton! As usual!
In one instance, the soldier recalled, he witnessed a Kuwaiti soldier,
who had been captured during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, being forced
to sit on a broken Pepsi bottle. The man was removed from the bottle
only after it filled up with his blood, the soldier said. He said the
man later died.
Makes one think of Abu Ghrayb doesn't it douglas
Yes. In fact, that's probably exactly where that incident took place,
under Saddam's guidance.
Disengenuous(SP) douglas.
and the good old yanks.
Do you have a cite that shows something like that ever happening there
after Saddam was removed from power? Something that rises to that
level of horror?
Saddam had been doing this type of thing for years douglas. But then
he was a mate of the fuckin' yanks...so it was ok.
"I have seen interrogators break the heads of men with baseball bats,
pour salt into wounds and rape wives in front of their husbands," said
former Iraqi soldier Ali Iyad Kareen, 41.
He then revealed dozens of Polaroid pictures of beaten and dead Iraqis
from the directorate's files.
The beatings continued until the last days of the old government.
Iraqi Maj. Shakir Hamid, 33, and his two brothers said they were
arrested March 5 by military intelligence police and charged with
being informants for the CIA. They were released by sympathetic Iraqi
soldiers last week, Hamid said.
He and his two brothers, Majeed and Shakeer, have cigarette burns on
their wrists, the bottoms of their feet and their inner thighs. He
pointed out dried blood stains on the cement floor of several jail
cells. "The interrogators kept telling me, 'Admit it, you work for the
Americans, don't you?' " Hamid said. "Under Saddam, you were found
guilty whether or not there was any evidence against you." [end
excerpt]
There's another place like that...oh what's it called...it's on the
tip of my tongue...yeah Guantanamo bay! It's in Cuba. There one is
automatically guilty without trial!
Can you show documentation that detainees at Guantanamo are beaten,
burned with cigarettes, and leave dried blood on the floor? Or are
they given proper food and medicine, Qurans and prayer rugs? And told
which way to kneel so they're facing in the right direction?- D=F6lj cite=
rad text -
Can you show me evidence that any of them are guilty?
WH
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
24 Mar 2007 09:34:24 PM |
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On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic group.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.
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| User: "WH" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
24 Mar 2007 09:55:16 PM |
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On 25 Mar, 04:34, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrot=
e:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additi=
onal 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come=
close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregat=
ed
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they li=
ke
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that th=
ey
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and t=
hat
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, i=
s that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation,=
Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph=
are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs w=
ho
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a pea=
ceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic group.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
*****!
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| User: "WH" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
24 Mar 2007 10:03:35 PM |
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On 25 Mar, 04:34, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrot=
e:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an additi=
onal 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even come=
close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segregat=
ed
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they li=
ke
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that th=
ey
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and t=
hat
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says, i=
s that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretation,=
Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randolph=
are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs w=
ho
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a pea=
ceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic group.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Where am I wrong then douglas? I have a friend who has actually met
Saddam Hussien on numerous occasions.
What do you base your ***** on?
WH
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
25 Mar 2007 12:25:23 AM |
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On Mar 24, 7:03 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 04:34, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wr=
ote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an addi=
tional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even co=
me close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segreg=
ated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says they =
like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies that =
they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life and=
that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie says,=
is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretatio=
n, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I s=
aid
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Randol=
ph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thugs=
who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a p=
eaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic group.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Where am I wrong then douglas?
It started when you claimed Iraq was peaceful under Saddam. That's
just incredibly wrong, and anyone with any knowledge whatsoever knows
it. Then you make some claim, with absolutely no basis, that Saddam
did not discriminate against one ethnic group. I'm really not sure how
you can say that with a straight face. Saddam and his Baathist allies
routinely repressed and suppressed the Shiites and the Kurds. How do
you think those mass graves got filled?
Anyway, if you truly believe Saddam was some innocent, misunderstood
individual, we have no basis for a conversation because you're living
in an alternate reality.
I have a friend who has actually met
Saddam Hussien on numerous occasions.
Really? What is your friend's station in life that allowed him to get
that close?
What do you base your ***** on?
A consensus of multiple news sources and human rights groups. What do
you base your ***** on?
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| User: "WH" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
25 Mar 2007 06:41:08 AM |
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On 25 Mar, 07:25, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 7:03 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 04:34, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrot=
e:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> =
wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an ad=
ditional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will even =
come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being segr=
egated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says the=
y like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies tha=
t they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life a=
nd that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie say=
s, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpretat=
ion, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where I=
said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Rand=
olph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as freed=
om
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist thu=
gs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was a=
peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic gro=
up.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Where am I wrong then douglas?
It started when you claimed Iraq was peaceful under Saddam. That's
just incredibly wrong, and anyone with any knowledge whatsoever knows
it. Then you make some claim, with absolutely no basis, that Saddam
did not discriminate against one ethnic group. I'm really not sure how
you can say that with a straight face. Saddam and his Baathist allies
routinely repressed and suppressed the Shiites and the Kurds. How do
you think those mass graves got filled?
So let me know then douglas. Was Iraq in the mess it's in today under
Saddam? No it wasn't. Up until 1991 when he took Kuwait back the
Iraqi's had the best quality of life of all the Mid-East countries.
Free health care, free schools up until university. You don't have
that in America. He was until then a friend of the yanks, just got too
big for his boots. It was only then then that he became this terrible
dictator. Saddam filled his govt. and other officials with the
necessary people of all persuasions in order to keep the status quo.
He might have been a vicious dictator but unlike your monkey president
he was not stupid.
Anyway, if you truly believe Saddam was some innocent, misunderstood
individual, we have no basis for a conversation because you're living
in an alternate reality.
That's not what I said you twat. Your monkey president is responsible
for more death and destruction than Saddam ever was.
I have a friend who has actually met
Saddam Hussien on numerous occasions.
Really? What is your friend's station in life that allowed him to get
that close?
Never you mind! None of your business.
What do you base your ***** on?
A consensus of multiple news sources and human rights groups. What do
you base your ***** on?- D=F6lj citerad text -
OK so it's what you read in the papers and heard on foxnews yes I get
it. Foxnews and worldNUTdaily, great sources of unbiased news I have
to admit. Not a smidgen of bias there at all...it's all "fair and
balanced" isin't it.
Arsehole!
WH
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
25 Mar 2007 07:53:10 PM |
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On Mar 25, 3:41 am, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 07:25, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 7:03 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 04:34, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wr=
ote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net=
wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an =
additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will eve=
n come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being se=
gregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says t=
hey like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies t=
hat they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their life=
and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie s=
ays, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your interpret=
ation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words where=
I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and Ra=
ndolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are n=
ow
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as fre=
edom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist t=
hugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq was=
a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with peo=
ple
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic g=
roup.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works =
for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.- D=F6lj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Where am I wrong then douglas?
It started when you claimed Iraq was peaceful under Saddam. That's
just incredibly wrong, and anyone with any knowledge whatsoever knows
it. Then you make some claim, with absolutely no basis, that Saddam
did not discriminate against one ethnic group. I'm really not sure how
you can say that with a straight face. Saddam and his Baathist allies
routinely repressed and suppressed the Shiites and the Kurds. How do
you think those mass graves got filled?
So let me know then douglas. Was Iraq in the mess it's in today under
Saddam?
It was in a mess all right. All I ever heard before Saddam was removed
was how 5000 children per month were dying in Iraq due to the
sanctions. And yes, the corrupt UN Oil for Food program was intended
to alleviate the suffering of the Iraqi population. But some of
Saddam's corrupt Western allies allowed him to thwart the intention of
that program and enrich himself at the expense of the Iraqi people.
<snip repetitous BS>
What do you base your ***** on?
A consensus of multiple news sources and human rights groups. What do
you base your ***** on?- D=F6lj citerad text -
OK so it's what you read in the papers and heard on foxnews yes I get
it.
No, I said multiple news sources AND human rights groups.
Foxnews and worldNUTdaily, great sources of unbiased news I have
to admit.
I didn't mention Fox News or WND. In fact, I don't use those entities
as sources just so idiots like you can't accuse me of what you just
accused me of. But you did it anyway. Why? Just another liar, aren't
you? Why yes, yes you are!
Arsehole!
Same back at ya, pal.
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| User: "Dr. Bipolar" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
26 Mar 2007 12:23:04 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174870390.246194.47810@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 25, 3:41 am, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 07:25, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 7:03 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 04:34, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 24, 4:40 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar, 00:56, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 24, 2:43 pm, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 24 Mar, 23:05, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com>
wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:14 pm, Perseid
<eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven
Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
"It is sadly misguided to believe that surging an
additional 20,000
U.S. troops into Baghdad and western Iraq will
even come close to
redressing the issues raised in this article.
.. but stephen douglas says the Iraqis like being
segregated
in to neighborhoods of their own sect, and he says
they like
US troops occupying their country. He also implies
that they
like being driven out of Iraq for fear of their
life and that
they like being tortured with power tools.
The problem with attempting to interpret what Stevie
says, is that
you're most likely to get his denial of your
interpretation, Perseid.
Why interpret anything? Just show my actual words
where I said
anything even remotely like that. Otherwise, you and
Randolph are
liars in tandem.
You're constantly saying how much better off Iraqis are
now
than under Saddam.
Actually, it's you who refers to the terrorist thugs as
freedom
fighters. So it's you who gives approval to the terrorist
thugs who
are commiting atrocities. And apparently you think Iraq
was a peaceful
little place under Saddam and his sons.
It was peaceful! Saddam kept them from killing each other.
How do you think he accomplished that?
By using his head. His common sense. He filled his govt. with
people
of all persuasions so as not to discriminate against one ethnic
group.
You're either insane or ignorant. Take your pick. Either one works
for
me. Whichever one you are, I'm not wasting anymore time with your
insanity/ignorance.- Dölj citerad text -
- Visa citerad text -
Where am I wrong then douglas?
It started when you claimed Iraq was peaceful under Saddam. That's
just incredibly wrong, and anyone with any knowledge whatsoever knows
it. Then you make some claim, with absolutely no basis, that Saddam
did not discriminate against one ethnic group. I'm really not sure how
you can say that with a straight face. Saddam and his Baathist allies
routinely repressed and suppressed the Shiites and the Kurds. How do
you think those mass graves got filled?
So let me know then douglas. Was Iraq in the mess it's in today under
Saddam?
It was in a mess all right. All I ever heard before Saddam was removed
was how 5000 children per month were dying in Iraq due to the
sanctions. And yes, the corrupt UN Oil for Food program was intended
to alleviate the suffering of the Iraqi population. But some of
Saddam's corrupt Western allies allowed him to thwart the intention of
that program and enrich himself at the expense of the Iraqi people.
<snip repetitous BS>
What do you base your ***** on?
A consensus of multiple news sources and human rights groups. What do
you base your ***** on?- Dölj citerad text -
OK so it's what you read in the papers and heard on foxnews yes I get
it.
No, I said multiple news sources AND human rights groups.
Foxnews and worldNUTdaily, great sources of unbiased news I have
to admit.
I didn't mention Fox News or WND. In fact, I don't use those entities
as sources just so idiots like you can't accuse me of what you just
accused me of. But you did it anyway. Why? Just another liar, aren't
you? Why yes, yes you are!
Arsehole!
Same back at ya, pal.
well, it's good to see you share something in common with your enemies.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
26 Mar 2007 11:11:34 AM |
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On Mar 25, 9:23 pm, "Dr. Bipolar"
<doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com> wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174870390.246194.47810@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 25, 3:41 am, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Arsehole!
Same back at ya, pal.
well, it's good to see you share something in common with your enemies.
You know, Docko, I really don't consider anyone on usenet to be
"enemies" -- it's merely political debate, so "debating opponents" is
more appropriate, wouldn't you say?
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| User: "Dr. Bipolar" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
26 Mar 2007 01:34:45 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174925494.286450.212430@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 25, 9:23 pm, "Dr. Bipolar"
<doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com> wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174870390.246194.47810@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 25, 3:41 am, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Arsehole!
Same back at ya, pal.
well, it's good to see you share something in common with your enemies.
You know, Docko, I really don't consider anyone on usenet to be
"enemies" -- it's merely political debate, so "debating opponents" is
more appropriate, wouldn't you say?
I was referring to how they regard you. LOL!
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
26 Mar 2007 06:17:38 PM |
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On Mar 26, 10:34 am, "Dr. Bipolar"
<doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com> wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174925494.286450.212430@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 25, 9:23 pm, "Dr. Bipolar"
<doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com> wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174870390.246194.47810@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 25, 3:41 am, "WH" <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Arsehole!
Same back at ya, pal.
well, it's good to see you share something in common with your enemies.
You know, Docko, I really don't consider anyone on usenet to be
"enemies" -- it's merely political debate, so "debating opponents" is
more appropriate, wouldn't you say?
I was referring to how they regard you. LOL!
Then you should have worded it something like "something in common
with those who consider themselves to be your enemy." Then I'd have
understood what you were trying to say. By the way, Docko, what's
going on with your Aioe account? Any news to report?
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| User: "Dr. Bipolar" |
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| Title: Re: Pop Quiz |
27 Mar 2007 05:15:54 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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