Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
16 Aug 2007 11:09:49 AM |
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"Docrodile" <swampthing@hellsbayou.net> wrote in message
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Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
That would require counting, and Steven doen't have enough fingures, so you
won't get an answer Doc.
What is your projection, your estimation?
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
16 Aug 2007 09:36:02 AM |
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On Aug 16, 12:49?pm, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
He'll only answer with a question, Doc. Brick walls do that a lot.
Secretly he craves the extinction of the 'Heathen' Musselmen.
I rather fancy he also craves the exinction of a Doctor and a Wolf
too.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
16 Aug 2007 11:18:57 AM |
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On Aug 16, 4:49 am, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
I don't believe your theory is possible in this world.
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
16 Aug 2007 11:53:42 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 16, 4:49 am, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
I don't believe your theory is possible in this world.
If there is a God, he brings each and every one of us into a circumstance
here to promote our spiritual development.
The Earth is not a place to banish wars, but to experience spiritual growth.
Wars don't matter that much, because in the end you are going to die anyhow.
When you realize you don't have much of a choice over death, there is no
need to attach yourself to the outcome of things on this planet.
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| User: "makingmoneymadness" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 04:39:32 PM |
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On Aug 16, 9:18 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 16, 4:49 am, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
I don't believe your theory is possible in this world.
I have to agree. We are opposites combined which give us this fleshy
being we inhabit. If we were negative or just positive, then we would
not be in human form. Basic science already states this. If one wants
utopia, they are gunna hafta get rid of that flesh.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
18 Aug 2007 05:08:52 AM |
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"makingmoneymadness" <adamite@adamite.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 16, 9:18 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 16, 4:49 am, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal
utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
I don't believe your theory is possible in this world.
I have to agree. We are opposites combined which give us this fleshy
being we inhabit. If we were negative or just positive, then we would
not be in human form. Basic science already states this. If one wants
utopia, they are gunna hafta get rid of that flesh.
I propose an experiment whereas you kill yourself, or we kill you (your
option), and then when we die later, we can confirm or not confirm that
you've transcended flesh and blood and are existing in an ethereal utopia.
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 05:17:37 PM |
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On Aug 17, 10:39?pm, makingmoneymadness <adam...@adamite.com> wrote:
I have to agree. We are opposites combined which give us this fleshy
being we inhabit. If we were negative or just positive, then we would
not be in human form. Basic science already states this. If one wants
utopia, they are gunna hafta get rid of that flesh.
Someone is 'gunna hafta' learn how to write in English before their
opinion carries any weight.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
16 Aug 2007 07:19:04 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think? ;-)
Woods
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 07:33:05 AM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think? ;-)
Woods
I thought God might have a quota we'd reach, and then we'd be relieved of
any more bloodletting. God would have his own bloodlusting satisfied once
and for all.
Doc
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 09:08:40 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:33:05 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think? ;-)
Woods
I thought God might have a quota we'd reach, and then we'd be relieved of
any more bloodletting. God would have his own bloodlusting satisfied once
and for all.
Doc
I think God is waiting for us to grow the heck up.
Woods
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 10:29:37 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:33:05 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c4e978$0$31879$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think? ;-)
Woods
I thought God might have a quota we'd reach, and then we'd be relieved of
any more bloodletting. God would have his own bloodlusting satisfied once
and for all.
Doc
I think God is waiting for us to grow the heck up.
What are you trying to say? Stop fighting with Steven?
Woods
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
18 Aug 2007 05:47:11 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:29:37 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:33:05 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c4e978$0$31879$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think? ;-)
Woods
I thought God might have a quota we'd reach, and then we'd be relieved of
any more bloodletting. God would have his own bloodlusting satisfied once
and for all.
Doc
I think God is waiting for us to grow the heck up.
What are you trying to say? Stop fighting with Steven?
While that would be nice, what I meant was that I don't think God has
anything to do with wars, and he's probably thoroughly horrified
and disgusted with wars. That's mankind's way of solving problems (by NOT
solving them), I don't think that's God's way, although mankind has sure
made use of His non-interference mode to put a whole lot of (their) words
into His mouth.
Woods
Woods
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
16 Aug 2007 08:05:01 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think? ;-)
I think people would stop fighting wars if we somehow discover that there is
only one 'true' philosophy or truth. Currently we all believe in all kinds
of different things. But if everyone believed in exactly the same thing,
then there are no reasons to disagree with anything. I don't know how that
could ever come about, but it's probably possible. If science came up with
an answer that is clearly obvious to all and we all can see. That could be
an answer. But even the truth would be a hard sell to someone like Steven I
think.
Woods
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 07:46:48 AM |
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"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:1v6xi.65750$rX4.2246@pd7urf2no...
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c4e978$0$31879$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
What is your projection, your estimation?
We'd have to *stop* fighting wars in order to ascend, doncha think?
;-)
I think people would stop fighting wars if we somehow discover that
there is only one 'true' philosophy or truth. Currently we all believe
in all kinds of different things. But if everyone believed in exactly
the same thing, then there are no reasons to disagree with anything. I
don't know how that could ever come about, but it's probably possible.
If science came up with an answer that is clearly obvious to all and we
all can see. That could be an answer. But even the truth would be a hard
sell to someone like Steven I think.
I'd think that either enough bloodletting, fear, and hate would eventually
satiate our desire for violence to 'solve our problems', or God would
finally relieve us of war because we reached a maximum allowable limit he
set.
The limit would be set when so little life would be left that it threatens
all his creation.
And, of course, none of this makes any real 'sense' considering that a God
that creates life, passes along a doctrine of respecting and preserving
it and being punished if we don't, would let humanity destroy so much of
themselves and animal life, or engage in destroying life himself, as he
did in the Old Testament. Presumably, God allows even today huge amounts
of life to be wasted for greed, power, etc.
Either our general concept of a loving God is badly askew because possibly
something's missing in our historical background data, or we've been lied
to.
Doc
Woods
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 02:55:32 AM |
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On Aug 17, 2:05?am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
Wasn't there a war in 'Heaven'? Don't angels often carry swords? On
the 'day of reckoning', do not the 'armies of Heaven' descend to
slaughter the non-believers?
Seems to me that war isn't simply a human trait, but a Devine one too.
Didn't Lucifer pay the price for being a dissident?
I rather think 'God' likes wars.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 07:31:25 AM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 2:05?am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c4e978$0$31879$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal
utopia?
Wasn't there a war in 'Heaven'? Don't angels often carry swords? On
the 'day of reckoning', do not the 'armies of Heaven' descend to
slaughter the non-believers?
Seems to me that war isn't simply a human trait, but a Devine one too.
Didn't Lucifer pay the price for being a dissident?
I rather think 'God' likes wars.
Werewolfy
My understanding of the Babble is that a war will occur between the forces
of the Devil and God's angels in the heavens above earth, while the
antichrist's armies battle the 'good armies' of Israel and all her
supporters.
Yes, the Bibble talks about a war in heaven.
Well, yes, God seemed to favor warfare in the Old Testament, applying the
process of mass murder himself, and directing human hosts to do it for
him...all apparently to get rid of evil that threatened his 'Chosen
People.'
Then, strangely, God became a pacifist after Jesus appeared, and there was
much chatter about being against violence of any kind. Apparently, a more
peace-loving God doesn't sit well with Stevie, prompting him to speculate
that the swords Jesus wanted his followers to obtain, is evidence that
Jesus wasn't totally against violence or murder. Yet, the Booble tells us
that 'violence begets violence' ... and the famous 'turn the other cheek'
remark.... and so forth.
Did God learn something from his own behaviour back then? LOL!
Doc ;()
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 09:29:24 AM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 2:05?am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c4e978$0$31879$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
Wasn't there a war in 'Heaven'? Don't angels often carry swords? On
the 'day of reckoning', do not the 'armies of Heaven' descend to
slaughter the non-believers?
Seems to me that war isn't simply a human trait, but a Devine one too.
Didn't Lucifer pay the price for being a dissident?
I rather think 'God' likes wars.
He he... Aparently there are discrepancies regarding truth in heaven
too...
Werewolfy
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Question 4 Stevie |
17 Aug 2007 09:11:52 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:55:32 -0700, Werewolfy wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:05?am, "mukyuk" <a...@b.com> wrote:
"Woodswun" <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c4e978$0$31879$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:49:37 -0700, Docrodile wrote:
Hey, Stevie, how many more wars will humanity have to fight until it
ascends into a perfect state of being, and lives in an eternal utopia?
Wasn't there a war in 'Heaven'? Don't angels often carry swords? On
the 'day of reckoning', do not the 'armies of Heaven' descend to
slaughter the non-believers?
Seems to me that war isn't simply a human trait, but a Devine one too.
Didn't Lucifer pay the price for being a dissident?
I rather think 'God' likes wars.
Werewolfy
I think mankind has a (mental) problem thinking in terms of "conquering"
anything without it involving lots of gore. I see no reason why God would
need armies, wars, or weaponry of any kind. Nor would the angels. They
aren't even corporeal beings.
Woods
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