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| User: "Docrodile" |
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20 Jan 2007 05:40:49 PM |
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"mukyuk" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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Does Jesus love them?
Bush, Cheney, Blair, Rice...well, I guess so, but I sure don't...too many
dead, maimed, traumatized...
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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20 Jan 2007 01:31:06 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Woods
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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20 Jan 2007 02:01:35 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Woods
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| User: "Rick" |
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20 Jan 2007 09:49:31 PM |
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mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
The Gospel According to St. Mark.
Chapter 5. verses 1-13.
For the main part of the story, although verses 13-20 are a continuation and
should be read for the context.
IMHO, of course.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Jan 2007 09:05:02 PM |
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mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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20 Jan 2007 09:46:10 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169348702.805279.245800@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of
demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to
read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
I don't dislike you because you are religious Steven. I dislike you because
I think you are a superficial shallow.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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20 Jan 2007 09:40:41 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Woods
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Jan 2007 09:50:55 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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20 Jan 2007 10:47:57 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169351455.799927.299010@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of
demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed
themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love
to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before
I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of
the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the
impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame
some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here, but you've shown
a distinct sign of moral superiority when dealing with anyone that opposes
your religio-philosophical stance, with plenty of Biblical references to
back your position.
So, one doesn't have to openly recruit, only to show by repeated examples
that anyone who doesn't accept their belief system is inherently wrong,
misguided, inferior, evil, corrupted, etc.
And you do that rather often here, Steve-O...
Docrodile
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| User: "Perseid" |
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21 Jan 2007 01:56:28 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here,
but you've shown a distinct sign of moral superiority when
dealing with anyone that opposes your religio-philosophical
stance, with plenty of Biblical references to back your position.
The worst part about it is he uses 'hand-waiving' arguments,
gigantic mental leaps, and illogic to support his positions.
One example I pointed out to him a few days ago: His claim
was that since no WMD had been found then they must still be
out there (the argument itself may change with each passing
day since they grasp at anything they can get). This is a
completely fallacious argument. It would be as if I said that
since I've never seen a little green man and can't disprove
their existence, then they MUST exist. You can't prove
something by demonstrating that you haven't disproven it.
Stephen just does not get this. I've suggested he take a college
class to try to improve his logical reasoning skills, but he
interprets this as a put-down instead of constructive feedback.
He really has no desire to change or learn, and he wastes peoples'
time with week after month after year of this type of baloney argument.
So, one doesn't have to openly recruit, only to show by
repeated examples that anyone who doesn't accept their
belief system is inherently wrong, misguided, inferior, evil,
corrupted, etc. And you do that rather often here, Steve-O...
Docrodile
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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21 Jan 2007 02:00:38 AM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here,
but you've shown a distinct sign of moral superiority when
dealing with anyone that opposes your religio-philosophical
stance, with plenty of Biblical references to back your position.
The worst part about it is he uses 'hand-waiving' arguments,
gigantic mental leaps, and illogic to support his positions.
One example I pointed out to him a few days ago: His claim
was that since no WMD had been found then they must still be
out there (the argument itself may change with each passing
day since they grasp at anything they can get). This is a
completely fallacious argument. It would be as if I said that
since I've never seen a little green man and can't disprove
their existence, then they MUST exist. You can't prove
something by demonstrating that you haven't disproven it.
Stephen just does not get this. I've suggested he take a college
class to try to improve his logical reasoning skills, but he
interprets this as a put-down instead of constructive feedback.
He really has no desire to change or learn, and he wastes peoples'
time with week after month after year of this type of baloney argument.
Uh, the discussion is about my supposed *religious* holier-than-thou
preachy attitude. Try to keep up.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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21 Jan 2007 04:09:39 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to
convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here,
but you've shown a distinct sign of moral superiority when
dealing with anyone that opposes your religio-philosophical
stance, with plenty of Biblical references to back your position.
The worst part about it is he uses 'hand-waiving' arguments,
gigantic mental leaps, and illogic to support his positions.
One example I pointed out to him a few days ago: His claim
was that since no WMD had been found then they must still be
out there (the argument itself may change with each passing
day since they grasp at anything they can get). This is a
completely fallacious argument. It would be as if I said that
since I've never seen a little green man and can't disprove
their existence, then they MUST exist. You can't prove
something by demonstrating that you haven't disproven it.
Stephen just does not get this. I've suggested he take a college
class to try to improve his logical reasoning skills, but he
interprets this as a put-down instead of constructive feedback.
He really has no desire to change or learn, and he wastes peoples'
time with week after month after year of this type of baloney argument.
Uh, the discussion is about my supposed *religious* holier-than-thou
preachy attitude. Try to keep up.
Uh, duh, uh, uh, ....
My statement was about what annoys me about you.
Do try to keep up yourself there slick.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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21 Jan 2007 12:10:07 PM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to
convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here,
but you've shown a distinct sign of moral superiority when
dealing with anyone that opposes your religio-philosophical
stance, with plenty of Biblical references to back your position.
The worst part about it is he uses 'hand-waiving' arguments,
gigantic mental leaps, and illogic to support his positions.
One example I pointed out to him a few days ago: His claim
was that since no WMD had been found then they must still be
out there (the argument itself may change with each passing
day since they grasp at anything they can get). This is a
completely fallacious argument. It would be as if I said that
since I've never seen a little green man and can't disprove
their existence, then they MUST exist. You can't prove
something by demonstrating that you haven't disproven it.
Stephen just does not get this. I've suggested he take a college
class to try to improve his logical reasoning skills, but he
interprets this as a put-down instead of constructive feedback.
He really has no desire to change or learn, and he wastes peoples'
time with week after month after year of this type of baloney argument.
Uh, the discussion is about my supposed *religious* holier-than-thou
preachy attitude. Try to keep up.
Uh, duh, uh, uh, ....
My statement was about what annoys me about you.
So what? There are things about you that annoy me. So what? The
discussion was not about what annoys you -- it was about the charge
that I have a religious "holier-than-thou" preachy attitude.
Do try to keep up yourself there slick.
With you? No problem.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Jan 2007 10:52:16 PM |
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Docrodile wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169351455.799927.299010@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of
demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed
themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love
to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before
I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of
the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the
impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame
some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here, but you've shown
a distinct sign of moral superiority when dealing with anyone that opposes
your religio-philosophical stance, with plenty of Biblical references to
back your position.
Okay, this is helpful. Have I ever specifically directed any of my
religio-philosopical stance, with Biblical references, towards you?
So, one doesn't have to openly recruit, only to show by repeated examples
that anyone who doesn't accept their belief system is inherently wrong,
misguided, inferior, evil, corrupted, etc.
And you do that rather often here, Steve-O...
Towards whom? Anyone in particular you can think of? And by the way,
thanks for the thoughtful reply.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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20 Jan 2007 11:31:25 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169355135.982922.312550@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Docrodile wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169351455.799927.299010@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch
of
demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed
themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own
business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd
love
to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first
came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact,
before
I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some
of
the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the
impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead,
I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing
their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame
some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to
convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here, but you've
shown
a distinct sign of moral superiority when dealing with anyone that
opposes
your religio-philosophical stance, with plenty of Biblical references
to
back your position.
Okay, this is helpful. Have I ever specifically directed any of my
religio-philosopical stance, with Biblical references, towards you?
I would think that with your habit of referencing the Google archives,
you'd find the examples you seek. And you don't have any memory of more
recent exchanges where you quote Biblical verse to back you arguments? You
don't have to target anyone -- the situation simply presents itself as the
discussion continues, and you start sprinkling biblical passages into the
discussion, especially if it concerns issues dealing with morality,
ethics, religion. I have a fuzzy memory of some, but I can't tell you now
exactly what they were about. Look it up, kid.
So, one doesn't have to openly recruit, only to show by repeated
examples
that anyone who doesn't accept their belief system is inherently wrong,
misguided, inferior, evil, corrupted, etc.
And you do that rather often here, Steve-O...
Towards whom? Anyone in particular you can think of? And by the way,
thanks for the thoughtful reply.
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate or
planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests itself as the
exchanges continue. I don't have the precise memory of who or what, but
I'm sure you can Google it, if you are so concerned about this issue. I'm
under a lot of medication for CVD issues that seems to affect my memory
these days, and I just can't remember every detail, only that I'm sure
they did occur, fairly often.
Okay? Best I can do...again, look it up.
Docrodile
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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21 Jan 2007 01:10:36 AM |
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Docrodile wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169355135.982922.312550@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Docrodile wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169351455.799927.299010@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch
of
demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed
themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own
business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd
love
to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first
came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact,
before
I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some
of
the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the
impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead,
I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing
their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame
some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to
convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
Let me interject. You haven't directly proselytized here, but you've
shown
a distinct sign of moral superiority when dealing with anyone that
opposes
your religio-philosophical stance, with plenty of Biblical references
to
back your position.
Okay, this is helpful. Have I ever specifically directed any of my
religio-philosopical stance, with Biblical references, towards you?
I would think that with your habit of referencing the Google archives,
you'd find the examples you seek. And you don't have any memory of more
recent exchanges where you quote Biblical verse to back you arguments? You
don't have to target anyone -- the situation simply presents itself as the
discussion continues, and you start sprinkling biblical passages into the
discussion, especially if it concerns issues dealing with morality,
ethics, religion.
In case you haven't noticed, I *respond* to other's posts. I rarely
start a thread, and I am fairly certain I have never started a thread
with a religious topic. Whenever I have quoted Bible text, it was in
response top someone else's post. And usually it was a clarification of
what the Bible actually says, rather than the misinterpretation of the
poster to whom I responded. I'm not sure how this translates into my
supposed holier-than-thou preachy attitude. Especially when there are
posts from Woods (going back to well before I ever posted here) in
which she offers up Biblical principles for the benefit of other
readers -- does that mean Woods has a holier-than-thou preachy attitude
as well?
So, one doesn't have to openly recruit, only to show by repeated
examples
that anyone who doesn't accept their belief system is inherently wrong,
misguided, inferior, evil, corrupted, etc.
And you do that rather often here, Steve-O...
Towards whom? Anyone in particular you can think of? And by the way,
thanks for the thoughtful reply.
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate or
planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests itself as the
exchanges continue.
And Woods was doing the same thing before I ever showed up here. I
sincerely wonder if anyone ever challenged her for supposedly having a
holier-than-thou preachy attitude (though I don't believe she did,
anymore than I believe I do). If anything, my post earlier in the
thread, quoting myself from about three years ago, should be more
telling about my attitude -- no one should look to me as an example of
what a Christian should be. I have never made that claim, so this
holier-than-thou preacy attitude stuff is really a mystery to me. But
thanks for your thoughts.
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21 Jan 2007 02:05:18 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate or
planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests itself as the
exchanges continue.
And Woods was doing the same thing before I ever showed up here.
I personally don't care if you quote scripture, but a bible
quote doesn't exactly provide support for your arguments and
claims. I'm sure that Christ himself did not suffer from lapses
of logical reasoning the way you do. From what I know, Christ
was about the sharpest tool in the shed (I'm sure he had to be
to avoid death and capture for as long as he did and still
spread his message).
I
sincerely wonder if anyone ever challenged her for supposedly having a
holier-than-thou preachy attitude (though I don't believe she did,
anymore than I believe I do). If anything, my post earlier in the
thread, quoting myself from about three years ago, should be more
telling about my attitude -- no one should look to me as an example of
what a Christian should be. I have never made that claim, so this
holier-than-thou preacy attitude stuff is really a mystery to me. But
thanks for your thoughts.
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21 Jan 2007 02:11:14 AM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate or
planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests itself as the
exchanges continue.
And Woods was doing the same thing before I ever showed up here.
I personally don't care if you quote scripture, but a bible
quote doesn't exactly provide support for your arguments and
claims.
I'm sure that Christ himself did not suffer from lapses
of logical reasoning the way you do.
Or you do. You suffer from lapses of factual knowledge (see last
night's exchange for an example or three).
From what I know, Christ
was about the sharpest tool in the shed (I'm sure he had to be
to avoid death and capture for as long as he did and still
spread his message).
I
sincerely wonder if anyone ever challenged her for supposedly having a
holier-than-thou preachy attitude (though I don't believe she did,
anymore than I believe I do). If anything, my post earlier in the
thread, quoting myself from about three years ago, should be more
telling about my attitude -- no one should look to me as an example of
what a Christian should be. I have never made that claim, so this
holier-than-thou preacy attitude stuff is really a mystery to me. But
thanks for your thoughts.
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21 Jan 2007 04:23:29 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate
or planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests
itself as the exchanges continue.
And Woods was doing the same thing before I ever showed up here.
I personally don't care if you quote scripture, but a bible
quote doesn't exactly provide support for your arguments and
claims.
I'm sure that Christ himself did not suffer from lapses
of logical reasoning the way you do.
Or you do. You suffer from lapses of factual knowledge (see last
night's exchange for an example or three).
What a rock-solid speaker you are Stephen. Everyone here is
so impressed by your knowledge that they just feel like
brutalizing you at every opportunity. Sorry man, you're deluding
yourself.
Why do you continue hanging around here anyway ? You just
are continually brutalized by everyone, at every opportunity.
I can only guess that this somehow makes you feel like a
better christian, to be persecuted like this. You are one
twisted up mo-fo.
From what I know, Christ
was about the sharpest tool in the shed (I'm sure he had to be
to avoid death and capture for as long as he did and still
spread his message).
I
sincerely wonder if anyone ever challenged her for supposedly having
a holier-than-thou preachy attitude (though I don't believe she did,
anymore than I believe I do). If anything, my post earlier in the
thread, quoting myself from about three years ago, should be more
telling about my attitude -- no one should look to me as an example
of what a Christian should be. I have never made that claim, so this
holier-than-thou preacy attitude stuff is really a mystery to me. But
thanks for your thoughts.
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21 Jan 2007 07:04:24 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98BF227FEA299rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate
or planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests
itself as the exchanges continue.
And Woods was doing the same thing before I ever showed up here.
I personally don't care if you quote scripture, but a bible
quote doesn't exactly provide support for your arguments and
claims.
I'm sure that Christ himself did not suffer from lapses
of logical reasoning the way you do.
Or you do. You suffer from lapses of factual knowledge (see last
night's exchange for an example or three).
What a rock-solid speaker you are Stephen. Everyone here is
so impressed by your knowledge that they just feel like
brutalizing you at every opportunity. Sorry man, you're deluding
yourself.
Why do you continue hanging around here anyway ? You just
are continually brutalized by everyone, at every opportunity.
I can only guess that this somehow makes you feel like a
better christian, to be persecuted like this. You are one
twisted up mo-fo.
MARTYR...Steve of Arc on the stake, with the ignorant nasty townsfolk (us)
unfairly yearning for his burning.
From what I know, Christ
was about the sharpest tool in the shed (I'm sure he had to be
to avoid death and capture for as long as he did and still
spread his message).
I
sincerely wonder if anyone ever challenged her for supposedly having
a holier-than-thou preachy attitude (though I don't believe she did,
anymore than I believe I do). If anything, my post earlier in the
thread, quoting myself from about three years ago, should be more
telling about my attitude -- no one should look to me as an example
of what a Christian should be. I have never made that claim, so this
holier-than-thou preacy attitude stuff is really a mystery to me.
But
thanks for your thoughts.
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| User: "Rick" |
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21 Jan 2007 12:07:29 PM |
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Docrodile wrote:
MARTYR...Steve of Arc on the stake, with the ignorant nasty townsfolk (us)
unfairly yearning for his burning.
Ok, but do you have an Environmental Protection Agency Permit for outdoor
burning?
Are the torches non-toxic wood?
Is this a Political Gathering or Social?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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21 Jan 2007 12:13:20 PM |
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Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
Perseid wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
No, your referencing verse is not so much a result of a deliberate
or planned action, as it is opportunity that randomly manifests
itself as the exchanges continue.
And Woods was doing the same thing before I ever showed up here.
I personally don't care if you quote scripture, but a bible
quote doesn't exactly provide support for your arguments and
claims.
I'm sure that Christ himself did not suffer from lapses
of logical reasoning the way you do.
Or you do. You suffer from lapses of factual knowledge (see last
night's exchange for an example or three).
What a rock-solid speaker you are Stephen. Everyone here is
so impressed by your knowledge that they just feel like
brutalizing you at every opportunity.
So what? I enjoy correcting factual errors in the course of debate --
such as the several factual errors you made in our discussion the other
night.
Why do you continue hanging around here anyway ?
Because I enjoy the debate. Why do you keep hanging around here?
?
You just are continually brutalized by everyone, at every
opportunity.
So what? It's called debate, goofball.
I can only guess that this somehow makes you feel like a
better christian, to be persecuted like this. You are one
twisted up mo-fo.
You can only guess? It figures that you're as wrong as you usually are.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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20 Jan 2007 10:05:34 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:50:55 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
You project a holier-than-thou preachy attitude. It may not be what you
intend, but that's how it comes across on this side of the screen. Others
have pointed this out to you, and if you can't/won't see it by now, you
won't see it based on my statements. I'm not about to spend hours of my
time going through your posts to give you a full analysis of each,
explaining how they project such an impression.
I would say that it would be best to see what it is that you react to
negatively yourself, and then go back and read your own posts and see how
they reflect the very things that you yourself find negative. You seem to
react the most to the very posts that display, sometimes intentionally,
the very same type of post that portray this. Some might say that it is
synchronicity - you are ready to see in others that which you are ready to
see in yourself.
Woods
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Jan 2007 10:11:19 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:50:55 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
You project a holier-than-thou preachy attitude.
That's a generalization that does nothing to explain your previous
statement. I wonder if you're transposing my posts of a political
nature with my posts of a religious nature? Because I have no desire
preach my religious point of view. I dabble in Biblical principles,
just as you have for many years on this group. But I'd really
appreciate it if you could just give one example of my preachy 'tude in
the realm of religion.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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20 Jan 2007 10:37:33 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:11:19 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:50:55 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
You project a holier-than-thou preachy attitude.
That's a generalization that does nothing to explain your previous
statement. I wonder if you're transposing my posts of a political
nature with my posts of a religious nature? Because I have no desire
preach my religious point of view. I dabble in Biblical principles,
just as you have for many years on this group. But I'd really
appreciate it if you could just give one example of my preachy 'tude in
the realm of religion.
Your snipping of, essentially, the entirety of my post indicates that you
have no intention of finding out how you could be construed as being
either preachy or holier-than-thou, indicating that you have no interest
in why you are perceived as such, which further indicates that you are
dishonest in your intentions when you attempt to behave as an interested
poster. IOW, you're a phony.
Woods
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Jan 2007 10:40:20 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:11:19 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:50:55 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:05:02 -0800, Steven Douglas wrote:
mukyuk wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.20.19.31.06.838452@tepidmail.com...
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:06:18 +0000, mukyuk wrote:
Does Jesus love them?
Yes to turkeys, but no to pigs. After all, he did send a bunch of demons
into a bunch of pigs who them ran off a cliff and killed themselves. I
mean, one person who probably invited the demons in via a Ouija
board versus a bunch of pigs who were minding their own business.
Obviously, Jesus hates pigs.
Hopefully Steven will post the chapter and verses, because I'd love to read
the story.
Why not ask Woods? She's knows the Bible very well. When I first came
to this group, one of the attractions for me were the various wide
ranging topics under discussion, including religion. In fact, before I
ever started posting here, Woods would occasionally discuss some of the
same Biblical principles I have since raised. Knowing religion was
under discussion long before I arrived here, I was under the impression
that religion was *not* a taboo subject for this group. Instead, I've
noticed a gradual progression of anti-religious posters voicing their
growing disdain. Not that it will stop me, but it's really a shame some
people are so intolerant.
It ain't the Bible, Steven, it's the sanctimonious, preachy 'tude.
Let's leave our political differences aside for a moment -- can you
show an example where I've presented a sanctimonious preachy 'tude
concerning religion? Have I spent time on this group trying to convert
people to my religion? Please explain.
You project a holier-than-thou preachy attitude.
That's a generalization that does nothing to explain your previous
statement. I wonder if you're transposing my posts of a political
nature with my posts of a religious nature? Because I have no desire
preach my religious point of view. I dabble in Biblical principles,
just as you have for many years on this group. But I'd really
appreciate it if you could just give one example of my preachy 'tude in
the realm of religion.
Your snipping of, essentially, the entirety of my post indicates that you
have no intention of finding out how you could be construed as being
either preachy or holier-than-thou, indicating that you have no interest
in why you are perceived as such, which further indicates that you are
dishonest in your intentions when you attempt to behave as an interested
poster. IOW, you're a phony.
Okay, here is the entirety of your previous post:
You project a holier-than-thou preachy attitude. It may not be what you
intend, but that's how it comes across on this side of the screen. Others
have pointed this out to you, and if you can't/won't see it by now, you
won't see it based on my statements. I'm not about to spend hours of my
time going through your posts to give you a full analysis of each,
explaining how they project such an impression.
I only asked for one example. Please.
I would say that it would be best to see what it is that you react to
negatively yourself, and then go back and read your own posts and see how
they reflect the very things that you yourself find negative. You seem to
react the most to the very posts that display, sometimes intentionally,
the very same type of post that portray this. Some might say that it is
synchronicity - you are ready to see in others that which you are ready to
see in yourself.
I snipped this because it wasn't helpful. I'd like just one example of
my preach 'tude concerning religion. Please.
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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20 Jan 2007 11:11:28 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169354420.894660.248820@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I only asked for one example. Please.
NOW is an exelent example Steven!! You are unable to see that there are
*numerous* examples. Many people have been telling you this for years. In
that light, if you can't see yourself, no example will be of any use!
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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20 Jan 2007 11:13:53 PM |
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mukyuk wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169354420.894660.248820@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I only asked for one example. Please.
NOW is an exelent example Steven!!
How is this an excellent example of my preachy 'tude? Please explain.
You are unable to see that there are
*numerous* examples. Many people have been telling you this for years. In
that light, if you can't see yourself, no example will be of any use!
No, actually an example of my preachy 'tude would be helpful. Can you
provide one?
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| User: "mukyuk" |
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20 Jan 2007 11:58:23 PM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169356433.332438.172540@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
mukyuk wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169354420.894660.248820@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I only asked for one example. Please.
NOW is an exelent example Steven!!
How is this an excellent example of my preachy 'tude? Please explain.
You are unable to see that there are
*numerous* examples. Many people have been telling you this for years.
In
that light, if you can't see yourself, no example will be of any use!
No, actually an example of my preachy 'tude would be helpful. Can you
provide one?
I just gave you one! You didn't see!! Now you are still seeking another.
See what I mean?
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| User: "Rick" |
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21 Jan 2007 12:48:58 AM |
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mukyuk wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169356433.332438.172540@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
mukyuk wrote:
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169354420.894660.248820@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I only asked for one example. Please.
NOW is an exelent example Steven!!
How is this an excellent example of my preachy 'tude? Please explain.
You are unable to see that there are
*numerous* examples. Many people have been telling you this for years.
In
that light, if you can't see yourself, no example will be of any use!
No, actually an example of my preachy 'tude would be helpful. Can you
provide one?
I just gave you one! You didn't see!! Now you are still seeking another.
See what I mean?
Obviously, he doesn't.
Nor do I. He seems to have , politely, asked you for an example.
You , or the other posters have not provided one but say "SEE! Just like
THAT!"
sort of, kind of, and to paraphrase... <g>
There is how we see ourselves and how others see us.
The ID and EGO, I think it is called. Or sumtin in that general area...
If the person can not "see", and you , or another , are unable to point to the
specific area of interest, then... how can you expect them to comprehend what
you are referring to?
THERE!
Where?
THERE!
Where?
OVER there?
WHERE?
Jesus wept!
Sanctimoniously speaking. :-P
And they didn't have turkeys in the Middle East in Jesus' day.
Turkeys were indigenous to the Americas.
But why let that run a perfectly good nonsense thread?
Pigs, howsomeever , were considered to be "unclean" beast by the Leviticus
laws, so it would have been perfectly acceptable to cast the demons in to the
swine and then have the swine run off the cliff to their, presumed, demise..
It is then debatable if said demise of the Swine resulted in the extinction of
the corporeal existence of the Demons.
Coulda been the Mideast Equivalent of the Southern USA "Tarbaby" tales.
"Please, Lord Jebus! Don't cast me into dat swine!"....
But THEN that would have demonstrated a fallibility in Jesus, if He could be
tricked by demons so I'm probably going to Hell for mentioning that one.
Then again, it might have been part of the Master Plan and He was also sent to
save demons. AND by killing them, they were saved.
Hey! It worked for the Inquisition!! Or so they claimed. :-)
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