1. Why did it happen?
2. Who benefitted the most?
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
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10 Jan 2004 05:44:48 PM |
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Did Vietnam make Dylan? Was his musical career built on the blood and bones
of dead American conscripts? You could look at it that way. See what I'm
getting at? The point is you can twist things round and yet there is still
a perverse logic.
Similarly if Saddam Hussein had been allowed to stay in Kuwait in 1991, and
had he been allowed to go on and invade Saudi Arabia, as it is thought he
was planning to do, would he have become an enemy of the west? Would there
be an Al Qaeda? Would 9-11 have happened?
Cheers, RB
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:kf6vvvc4tu3iqgj5io3ej8ei7df0e1n2d4@4ax.com...
1. Why did it happen?
2. Who benefitted the most?
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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10 Jan 2004 06:08:37 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:44:48 -0000, "Prof Rollerball"
<roller@miller-williams.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Did Vietnam make Dylan? Was his musical career built on the blood and bones
of dead American conscripts? You could look at it that way. See what I'm
getting at? The point is you can twist things round and yet there is still
a perverse logic.
Similarly if Saddam Hussein had been allowed to stay in Kuwait in 1991, and
had he been allowed to go on and invade Saudi Arabia, as it is thought he
was planning to do, would he have become an enemy of the west? Would there
be an Al Qaeda? Would 9-11 have happened?
Cheers, RB
The CIA later admitted that Saddam had no intention to invade Saudi
Arabia. It was just part of the propaganda being put out by Bush to
get support for his war. Never mind that the US's Ambassador to Iraq
gave him the green light to invade Kuwait. She said at their final
meeting "Just don't take all of it."
I was in Saudi Arabia when the invasion happened, and I was living
with 10 miles of the Kuwait border. The TV news about Iraq invading
Saudi Arabia was a joke. In fact, there were some guys driving across
the border into Kuwait to buy whiskey from the Iraqis to take back
into Saudi to sell on the Black Market.
1991 was a "created war". The US put Saddam into power,
had no problem giving him WMD in the 1980's which he used
on his own people, and the US knew it, and had no problem
giving him $4 billion in 1988 to strengthen his military. The
US slowly engineered Saddam into invading Kuwait, to give
the US the chance to get a foothold in Kuwait and later Iraq.
There is no "twisting" involved. This ***** did happen.
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:kf6vvvc4tu3iqgj5io3ej8ei7df0e1n2d4@4ax.com...
1. Why did it happen?
2. Who benefitted the most?
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
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| User: "Prof Rollerball" |
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11 Jan 2004 09:44:03 AM |
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Hi!
Well, maybe Saddam wasn't planning to invade Saudi at the time, but the BBC
reports were of Iraqi troops massing on the Saudi border. For a brief time
speculation was that an invasion would take place. Saddam probably had
ambitions to invade Saudi at some stage.
The US gave aid and support to Saddam. Why? Because the Iraqi regime was
seen at the time as the lesser of two evils compared to Fundamentalist Iran.
Allegiances and friendships change. The US and Japan are allies, friends
even, yet around 60 years ago the Japanese made an unprovoked attack on the
US fleet at Pearl Harbour and the US nuked two Japanese cities. I have also
read that the logistics of the 2003 Iraq war were worked out under Clinton's
administration, though as far as I know there was no definite count-down to
invasion.
The CIA later admitted that Saddam had no intention to invade Saudi
Arabia. It was just part of the propaganda being put out by Bush to
get support for his war. Never mind that the US's Ambassador to Iraq
gave him the green light to invade Kuwait. She said at their final
meeting "Just don't take all of it."
I was in Saudi Arabia when the invasion happened, and I was living
with 10 miles of the Kuwait border. The TV news about Iraq invading
Saudi Arabia was a joke. In fact, there were some guys driving across
the border into Kuwait to buy whiskey from the Iraqis to take back
into Saudi to sell on the Black Market.
1991 was a "created war". The US put Saddam into power,
had no problem giving him WMD in the 1980's which he used
on his own people, and the US knew it, and had no problem
giving him $4 billion in 1988 to strengthen his military. The
US slowly engineered Saddam into invading Kuwait, to give
the US the chance to get a foothold in Kuwait and later Iraq.
There is no "twisting" involved. This ***** did happen.
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:kf6vvvc4tu3iqgj5io3ej8ei7df0e1n2d4@4ax.com...
1. Why did it happen?
2. Who benefitted the most?
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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11 Jan 2004 12:30:11 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:44:03 -0000, "Prof Rollerball"
<roller@miller-williams.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi!
Well, maybe Saddam wasn't planning to invade Saudi at the time, but the BBC
reports were of Iraqi troops massing on the Saudi border. For a brief time
speculation was that an invasion would take place. Saddam probably had
ambitions to invade Saudi at some stage.
Iraqis moved troops to the border to discourage US and British troops,
at the time only having one division, from getting a toe-hold in the
lower part of Kuwait, which is sparsely populated and easily to
overrun.
The US gave aid and support to Saddam. Why? Because the Iraqi regime was
seen at the time as the lesser of two evils compared to Fundamentalist Iran.
Allegiances and friendships change. The US and Japan are allies, friends
even, yet around 60 years ago the Japanese made an unprovoked attack on the
US fleet at Pearl Harbour and the US nuked two Japanese cities. I have also
read that the logistics of the 2003 Iraq war were worked out under Clinton's
administration, though as far as I know there was no definite count-down to
invasion.
You say "logistics of the 2003 Iraq War".
Contingency planning for potentially going into Iraq, but not
"logistics of the 2003 Iraq War."
The US probably has contingency plans to invade France, for all anyone
knows.
The CIA later admitted that Saddam had no intention to invade Saudi
Arabia. It was just part of the propaganda being put out by Bush to
get support for his war. Never mind that the US's Ambassador to Iraq
gave him the green light to invade Kuwait. She said at their final
meeting "Just don't take all of it."
I was in Saudi Arabia when the invasion happened, and I was living
with 10 miles of the Kuwait border. The TV news about Iraq invading
Saudi Arabia was a joke. In fact, there were some guys driving across
the border into Kuwait to buy whiskey from the Iraqis to take back
into Saudi to sell on the Black Market.
1991 was a "created war". The US put Saddam into power,
had no problem giving him WMD in the 1980's which he used
on his own people, and the US knew it, and had no problem
giving him $4 billion in 1988 to strengthen his military. The
US slowly engineered Saddam into invading Kuwait, to give
the US the chance to get a foothold in Kuwait and later Iraq.
There is no "twisting" involved. This ***** did happen.
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:kf6vvvc4tu3iqgj5io3ej8ei7df0e1n2d4@4ax.com...
1. Why did it happen?
2. Who benefitted the most?
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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| Title: Re: Questions re: 9-11-2001 |
11 Jan 2004 12:46:49 PM |
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Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> Spat the Words
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:44:03 -0000, "Prof Rollerball"
<roller@miller-williams.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Hi!
The US gave aid and support to Saddam. Why? Because the Iraqi regime
was seen at the time as the lesser of two evils compared to
Fundamentalist Iran. Allegiances and friendships change. The US and
Japan are allies, friends even, yet around 60 years ago the Japanese
made an unprovoked attack on the US fleet at Pearl Harbour and the US
nuked two Japanese cities. I have also read that the logistics of the
2003 Iraq war were worked out under Clinton's administration, though
as far as I know there was no definite count-down to invasion.
You say "logistics of the 2003 Iraq War".
Contingency planning for potentially going into Iraq, but not
"logistics of the 2003 Iraq War."
The US probably has contingency plans to invade France, for all anyone
knows.
Believe it or not, I do think we have plans like this.
But it's not just france. I've heard our gov't makes
contingency plans for just about everything they can
think of.
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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11 Jan 2004 12:37:55 PM |
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While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "Prof Rollerball"
<roller@miller-williams.freeserve.co.uk> scribbled:
Hi!
Well, maybe Saddam wasn't planning to invade Saudi at the time, but the BBC
reports were of Iraqi troops massing on the Saudi border.
America has 'massed troops' on the Mexican border several times.
Does that mean we were planning to invade Mexico??
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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11 Jan 2004 12:48:05 PM |
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Never anonymous Bud <newskat@katxyzkave.net> Spat the Words
While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "Prof Rollerball"
<roller@miller-williams.freeserve.co.uk> scribbled:
Hi!
Well, maybe Saddam wasn't planning to invade Saudi at the time, but
the BBC reports were of Iraqi troops massing on the Saudi border.
America has 'massed troops' on the Mexican border several times.
Does that mean we were planning to invade Mexico??
I think we took over part of mexico in pancho villa's day.
But we gave it back. I guess we didn't want it.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
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| User: "Mark Tyme" |
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11 Jan 2004 12:59:55 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:37:55 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
<newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote:
While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "Prof Rollerball"
<roller@miller-williams.freeserve.co.uk> scribbled:
Hi!
Well, maybe Saddam wasn't planning to invade Saudi at the time, but the BBC
reports were of Iraqi troops massing on the Saudi border.
America has 'massed troops' on the Mexican border several times.
Does that mean we were planning to invade Mexico??
It was to act as a deterrant, to prevent Americans from illegally
crossing the border into Mexico to look for better employment
opportunities.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity....
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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11 Jan 2004 01:36:27 PM |
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Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> Spat the Words
It was to act as a deterrant, to prevent Americans from illegally
crossing the border into Mexico to look for better employment
opportunities.
Actually, things are little cheaper south of the border.
(favorable exchange rate).
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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11 Jan 2004 02:46:08 PM |
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While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
scribbled:
It was to act as a deterrant, to prevent Americans from illegally
crossing the border into Mexico to look for better employment
opportunities.
But THAT would be a violation of the Constitution,
which the troops are sworn to uphold.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity....
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10 Jan 2004 03:43:48 AM |
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Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> Spat the Words
1. Why did it happen?
Religious intolerance. Bin Laden wanted westerners our of Saudi.
2. Who benefitted the most?
Al Qaeda
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
Bin Laden.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
Bin Laden.
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
He was hungry.
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
Because, at heart Rummy is a sweet guy, a real humanitarian.
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
Do you still beat your dog, mark?
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
National security.
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10 Jan 2004 03:07:39 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:43:48 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> Spat the Words
1. Why did it happen?
Religious intolerance. Bin Laden wanted westerners our of Saudi.
America needed to kill more innocent people
2. Who benefitted the most?
GW Bush
Al Qaeda
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to
strike at New York and the Pentagon?.
GW Bush and his daddy along with the puppetmasters pulling their
strings.
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
opeation?
America, Britian and any other country stupid enough to support either
of them.
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
Had to finalize the plan.
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
Because, at heart Rummy is a sweet guy, a real humanitarian.
He needed someone to blame his future attacks on.
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
..
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
National security.
Self incriminating evidence.
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10 Jan 2004 10:43:47 AM |
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Mark Tyme wrote -- asking in a series of mind bending
questions ---boing boing--- to which I reply:
<<
1. Why did it happen?
Because 911 was used for
emergency calls.
2. Who benefited the most?
Julia Child and Martha Stewart
3. Who had the power to create a Taliban and Al Qaeda, and use them to strike
at New York and the Pentagon?.
Ronald Reagan
4. Who has the power to cover up the details of how it was planned,
how it was funded, and who protected those involved in the overall
operation?
That would be 'The Circle of Nine'.
5. Why was Mohammed Atta's money man, a Colonel in the
Pakistani ISI, having breakfast with George W. Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell at the White House,
the morning of September 7, 2001?
Because all of their days were full for weeks and that
was when the eggs and pork were the most fresh.
6. Why did Donald Rumsfeld order a US military stand-down in
Afghanistan on December 11, 2001, to allow 4,000 members of
the Taliban, made up of Pakistani ISI officers, to escape back
to Pakistan via a major airlift, with the assistance of the US
military, and at the same time, 1,000 members of the Al Qaeda
leadership drove into Iran in a large caravan of vehicles, including
Osama Bin Laden?
He was trying to play like he was a middle eastern Muslim tour
and travel agent.
7. Why did the US make a deal with the Ayatollahs to keep
Bin Laden in Iran, since Dec 12, 2001?
Because he liked to watch Benny Hill reruns on TV and that
was the only place in the middle east that made such broadcasts.
8. Why were 27 pages of the Report to Congress on the
attacks of 9-11 held from release, and classified Top Secret,
at the request of George W. Bush? Who was he so
careful to protect? What was he so afraid the American
Public might read? Those pages did not contain details of
US military or national security operations. Then why were
they blacked out from the report?
That was just a careless accident. Somebody spilled black ink
on all those pages and they could not be read so somebody else
put them thru a paper shredder and then burned the shreds to
ashes and then somebody else took those ashes out to sea
on a luxury cruise ship -- then bound themselves in plastic sheets and duct
tape and jumped overboard with the ashes in a well vented
plastic ziplock baggie.
I trust that answers all your questions in a
concise and detailed manner.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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