"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
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| User: "Wildshadow" |
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28 Feb 2005 01:45:31 PM |
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<itwill@happen.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:1109424023.51c74157c894c5bdd0c853aad34d9afd@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I more or less agree, but wisdom takes a big place in this. You could be the
most intelligent man on earth, but still be the lowest scum at the same time
if you don't have the wisdom to use your intelligence correctly.
Wildshadow
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| User: "The Master" |
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28 Feb 2005 02:52:25 PM |
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wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise.
True - They need education, not money.
So all that is required is to provide the motive to become educated -
Peer pressure!
It's the people who make it a
slum."
It's also the people who make it a paradise. So what's your point?
The Master
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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28 Feb 2005 04:14:55 PM |
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The Master wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise.
True - They need education, not money.
Well, that, and the fact that any money put into a slum would be going
to the slumlords, not the people living there. They just get a better
cage, to use the gilded cage analogy.
Woods
So all that is required is to provide the motive to become educated -
Peer pressure!
It's the people who make it a
slum."
It's also the people who make it a paradise. So what's your point?
The Master
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?The_Psychedelic_Pope=99__--_http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/?=" |
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28 Feb 2005 04:33:18 PM |
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Cages are for those who fear the unknown.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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28 Feb 2005 04:22:34 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
The Master wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the
slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise.
True - They need education, not money.
Well, that, and the fact that any money put into a slum would be
going
to the slumlords, not the people living there. They just get a
better
cage, to use the gilded cage analogy.
Shoving money into Iraq without the government set up and able to
manage its money created the same effect as the slum-lord point. The
money went missing, got corrupted, etc....
Woods
read *_*
Newly released Pentagon documents show that a former member of Saddam
Hussein's inner circle has resurfaced inside the new Iraqi government,
bringing charges of corruption, bribery and bid-rigging.
The documents also indicate that many firms - including French and
Chinese ones that had cozy relationship's with Saddam's regime -
continue to reap millions in contracts from Iraq's new governing
authorities.
*As a result, millions of U.S. aid dollars and billions in Iraqi
government funds have disappeared in an ongoing scandal that is poised
to engulf Baghdad and Washington.*
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/2/23/150433.shtml
So all that is required is to provide the motive to become educated
-
Peer pressure!
It's the people who make it a
slum."
It's also the people who make it a paradise. So what's your point?
The Master
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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28 Feb 2005 09:17:26 PM |
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Michael Johnathan McDonald wrote:
Woodswun wrote:
The Master wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the
slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise.
True - They need education, not money.
Well, that, and the fact that any money put into a slum would be
going
to the slumlords, not the people living there. They just get a
better
cage, to use the gilded cage analogy.
Shoving money into Iraq without the government set up and able to
manage its money created the same effect as the slum-lord point. The
money went missing, got corrupted, etc....
Yup, but that's a whole different ball of wax. If Iraq was a "slum",
it's because we bombed it into one.
Woods
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| User: "" |
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01 Mar 2005 05:29:29 PM |
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Odd I thought the purpose to go into Iraq was to a) remove Saddam so he
could not be an Arab Napoleon
b) to secure a monopoly on the rebuild with the Halliburton Bechtel
cartel as black hole of operations, you mean the crumbs from the table
actually hit the ground?
LB
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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26 Feb 2005 08:29:16 AM |
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wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Not exactly. If you *replace* impoverished, uneducated people with
well-educated people (who are likely to be far better able to support
themselves), then things will improve. Throwing millions of dollars at
the landlords won't do anything to educate or better the people who live
in someone else's property.
Woods
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| User: "" |
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27 Feb 2005 05:05:38 AM |
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Thus proving context is a the first parameter.
Maybe just phone Queer Eye.
LB
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| User: "" |
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27 Feb 2005 09:51:44 AM |
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"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Tony
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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27 Feb 2005 02:37:59 PM |
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<itwill@happen.com> schreef in bericht
news:1109519445.c6abcb80c8b712fe02e9fbab9860ca67@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Tony
Really? I have seen the map where you live and the address as well. It's not
like paradise to me living in such an area like that pretty anonymously. I
mean
you cannot pretend living in Beverly Hills CA now can you Anthony F
"Testosterone" Zanowic? I assume that if you had been born in Brazil you
easily
would have ended up right in the slumps no doubt prostituting your wife ,
trying
to get some dope or testosterone by contacting one of the ruling dealers.
Making jokes with your neighbours because the father fucked his daughter and
told you all about it how it felt and the like.
How was that again? It takes one to know one? I assume the area where you
live will not improve much the coming decades!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "" |
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28 Feb 2005 10:37:19 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> schreef in bericht
news:1109519445.c6abcb80c8b712fe02e9fbab9860ca67@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Tony
How was that again? It takes one to know one? I assume the area where you
live will not improve much the coming decades!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
You really need to seek help for your obsession.
Tony
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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28 Feb 2005 11:01:18 AM |
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wrote:
< > schreef in bericht
news:1109519445.c6abcb80c8b712fe02e9fbab9860ca67@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Tony
How was that again? It takes one to know one? I assume the area where you
live will not improve much the coming decades!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
You really need to seek help for your obsession.
Tony
LOL !!!
You LOVE being obsessed over!! You're a freak !!
LOL !!!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Quite a quote from 35 years ago |
27 Feb 2005 04:53:15 PM |
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So are you saying it is Location, Location, Location like a real
estate agent?
It is not where you live but how you live, but some places are a lot
better than others,
(that is why I live where I live, in aggregate cannot be beaten) where
can you have, clean air water and sunshine 300 days a year, with little
or no hassles?
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| User: "Stephen" |
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27 Feb 2005 10:06:00 AM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1109519445.c6abcb80c8b712fe02e9fbab9860ca67@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
"Liberal" LeighBee and Woodswun answered this post. Don't you see them ?
:)
Tony
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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27 Feb 2005 12:44:29 PM |
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wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Tony
Woods already replied.
Find a better usenet provider if you're missing posts.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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27 Feb 2005 10:11:40 AM |
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wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Actually, I had a reply, but I think I cancelled it. You aren't
interested in an exchange of views, so what would be the point? People
are far too busy these days to spend time conducting research for an
intellectual discussion with someone whose only response will be "wrong"
when presented with facts that counter your cut-and-pasted quote.
Woods
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| User: "" |
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27 Feb 2005 10:26:56 AM |
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itwill@happen.com wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Actually, I had a reply, but I think I cancelled it. You aren't
interested in an exchange of views, so what would be the point? People
are far too busy these days to spend time conducting research for an
intellectual discussion with someone whose only response will be "wrong"
when presented with facts that counter your cut-and-pasted quote.
Woods
Come on, everyone here jumps on everything, yet for some reason they
are treating this thread like the plague, I wonder why.
Tony
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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27 Feb 2005 12:45:21 PM |
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Woodswun wrote:
itwill@happen.com wrote:
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
I notice that all you Liberals are avoiding this one like the plague.
Actually, I had a reply, but I think I cancelled it. You aren't
interested in an exchange of views, so what would be the point? People
are far too busy these days to spend time conducting research for an
intellectual discussion with someone whose only response will be "wrong"
when presented with facts that counter your cut-and-pasted quote.
Woods
Thank you.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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27 Feb 2005 05:40:57 PM |
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Geez, I feel sorry for your family then... stuck with a slum inducing slime
ball like you
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1109424023.51c74157c894c5bdd0c853aad34d9afd@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
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| User: "" |
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28 Feb 2005 10:38:46 AM |
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Geez, I feel sorry for your family then... stuck with a slum inducing slime
ball like you
Yeah, I notice like the rest of the Liberals you cannot bring yourself
to offer anythying more than a snide remark on the quote.
What are you all afraid of?
Tony
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1109424023.51c74157c894c5bdd0c853aad34d9afd@teranews...
"You can take $93 million and put it into a slum, and it will stay
slum, but if you take intelligent people and put them into the slum,
they will turn the slum into a paradise. It's the people who make it a
slum."
Quite true.
Tony
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| User: "Aidan" |
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28 Feb 2005 06:26:36 PM |
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<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1109608667.92213eb829f195f53ef66b6eeac1573c@teranews...
Geez, I feel sorry for your family then... stuck with a slum inducing
slime
ball like you
Yeah, I notice like the rest of the Liberals you cannot bring yourself
to offer anythying more than a snide remark on the quote.
What are you all afraid of?
Fine, I'll bite Mr. Troll.
It's a stupid, narrow minded quote... Of course dumping money on a problem
doesn't make it go away, that's just common sense. To sound mishy mushy,
letting the people in a slum know they are not worthless goes a long way...
and doing this doesn't take any money.
People in slums feel isolated. They feel like they have been rejected from
main steam society, and some become bitter about it. Even though this is
usually not the case, they see no evidence to the contrary. It all comes
down to the entrenched culture, and the children. The cycle of poverty can
only be broken by the children.
If the children are made to feel as though they have worth, they will act
like it. If they don't feel like they have any purpose in society, they
will buy into the slum culture, and bad things will follow for them.
Given equal opportunities, a poorer child will, in general, strive harder
than his well off counter part. This is because the rich child takes said
opportunities for granted, whereas the poor child will not... but, in order
for this to happen, they have to be pulled out of the slum culture, and made
to feel like they are worth the same as any other person, and that they are
capable of rising above their circumstance. Providing these opportunities
does take money.
I know you have no compassion for the adults in places with a lower
socio-economic standing than your own, but surely you have some for the
children, and they are the ones that will change given the right support.
For several years in my childhood, I grew up in what could be considered a
slum. I can say definitivly that it is the culture of the place, not the
people, that keeps most residents down. I was sent to a private school for
some years, on funds provided by my grand parents. I was taught there, that
being poor did not make you a lesser person, only that I probably had to
work harder to get where I wanted in life. Looking back, I feel that I have
risen above the slum culture (I don't live in a housing commission estate, I
don't collect welfare), whereas others who were not given the same
opportunites as me, have not... I was lucky. If only they had someone
looking out for them like I did, I'm pretty sure that they would be in a
much better place these days.
So, ***** you Tony. You're an elitist pig, and you make me fucking sick.
Not having money and living in a slum does not make you unintelligent or
hopeless... those fuckers like you certainly don't help... you only
contribute to the problem through your narcissistic ignorance.
I just hope your children never have to find that out first hand...
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