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"Grantland" |
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27 May 2004 05:34:00 PM |
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Re: Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy |
"Mujahid" <alfalastinee@netscape.net> wrote:
Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy
Thursday, May 27, 2004
Before the United States invaded Iraq, wise heads warned that far from being a decisive blow in the US-led global "war on terror," this latest adventure
would only fuel international terrorism. A report just released by the
International Institute of Strategic Studies think tank, "Strategic Survey
2003/4," states that Al-Qaeda's ranks are growing as a direct result of the
conflict in Iraq, and the number of Al-Qaeda "potential terrorists" is
estimated at more than 18,000.
Specifically, the report says, "Iraq has become the new magnet of Al-Qaeda's
war against the United States ... The US-led war in Iraq has increased the
risk to Western interests in Arab countries." Although the number of
Al-Qaeda-affiliated "terrorists" is probably exaggerated, the basic premise
of the report is accurate: US policies with respect to the Arab and Muslim
worlds is a gift to Al-Qaeda recruiters.
These policies, inadvertently or otherwise, include the ongoing scandal of
prisoner abuse by US forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. If the same
mental process that delivered the shock of Abu Ghraib is still extent in
other covert operations, the war on terror is lost and the world should
brace for catastrophe. So too is the alliance of radical Israeli settlers in
the Occupied Territories on the one hand, and American fundamentalist
Christians and the neo-conservative right on the other hand, like a red rag
to an already enraged bull.
In short, what the United States and its ally, Israel, are doing is
destroying both their own hopes for peace and prosperity and those of the
Arab and Muslim worlds.
Quite deliberately. The Jews want to use their slaves to destroy
Islam. Global war is their plan. A Greater YITZREALI EMPIRE!! *ALL
THE OIL!!" ALL!
And "self-defensive" Nuke Genocide. The Victor writes the history.
Thus is a vicious circle in the process of spiraling
out of control, and something must be done to bring it to a standstill.
REFRAIN FROM INTEMPERATE REVENGE. OTHERWISE THEY WILL ANNIHILATE YOU.
JUSTICE COMes later, with the facts revealed.
Grantland
Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states must make a move, and urgently. They
have the prestige, power, influence and resources to establish and bolster
their own lobby groups in the United States. The mission? To puncture
Washington's bubble of madness, for all our sakes. The message? To convince
Washington that the mascot of US diplomacy in the Middle East, indeed,
globally, must be justice. Justice, even-handed and impartial, is the only
solution, the only way out of the potentially fatal trap in which current
policy has America ensnared.
The Gulf Arab states must act, and Washington must respond. There is no
alternative, and time is a precious commodity.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&article_id=4484&categ_
id=17
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| User: "MaxBlast36" |
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| Title: Re: Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy |
27 May 2004 07:14:24 PM |
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Grantland Posted:
International Institute of Strategic Studies think tank, "Strategic Survey
2003/4," states that Al-Qaeda's ranks are growing as a direct result of the
conflict in Iraq, and the number of Al-Qaeda "potential terrorists" is
estimated at more than 18,000.
Specifically, the report says, "Iraq has become the new magnet of Al-Qaeda's
war against the United States
MaxBlast wrote:
This is no surprise to me, the US moved the war to Iraq in order to draw
Al-Queda into a more favorable fight. If you can understand that it's better
to fight in the open country of Iraq instead of the Mountainous Ranges of
Afghanistan.
They also have the militaries of many coalition partners being able to
participate in the defeat of Al-Queda that would not be able to do so if the
battle stayed in the mountainous areas, they either don't have a mandate or
they don't have the necessary training or equipment to fight in the rough and
rigid terrain that we find in Afghanistan
Plus, are you ready for this? They have "fuel depots" in Iraq and not in
Afghanistan!!!
War is to Peace what a Thorn is to a Rose...
Brother Jon
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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| Title: Re: Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy |
28 May 2004 04:41:41 AM |
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maxblast36@aol.com
wrote:
This is no surprise to me, the US moved the war to Iraq in order to draw
Al-Queda into a more favorable fight. If you can understand that it's better
to fight in the open country of Iraq instead of the Mountainous Ranges of
Afghanistan.
Good point.
Tony
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy |
28 May 2004 06:51:38 AM |
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On 28 May 2004 09:41:41 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
maxblast36@aol.com
wrote:
This is no surprise to me, the US moved the war to Iraq in order to draw
Al-Queda into a more favorable fight. If you can understand that it's better
to fight in the open country of Iraq instead of the Mountainous Ranges of
Afghanistan.
Good point.
Tony
I disagree. If that is the mentality of the USG, then they seriously
need to hire some *literal* intelligence in the WH. Whether they're
in the mountains or on the plains, it's not going to make any
difference. Osama bin Laden's "troops" are as recognisable as the
population they're a part of. By the time you see them, you're nearly
dead. It's called Guerrilla warfare. Such wars continue for YEARS
before they eventually end with an agreement of some kind. There is
no victor in this blob of ***** the US has made. If the US manages to
assassinate OBL, then there will be an even bigger display of terror
in the lives of you average Americans.
I'm hardly surprised that *you* think it is a likely concept.
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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| Title: Re: Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy |
28 May 2004 08:02:12 AM |
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Cuan
wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
maxblast36@aol.com
wrote:
This is no surprise to me, the US moved the war to Iraq in order to draw
Al-Queda into a more favorable fight. If you can understand that it's
better
to fight in the open country of Iraq instead of the Mountainous Ranges of
Afghanistan.
Good point.
Tony
I disagree. If that is the mentality of the USG, then they seriously
need to hire some *literal* intelligence in the WH. Whether they're
in the mountains or on the plains, it's not >going to make any difference.
Wrong. It is much easier to target these terrorists in Iraq, than in
Afghanistan.
Osama bin Laden's "troops" are as recognisable as the
population they're a part of. By the time you see them, you're nearly
dead. It's called Guerrilla warfare.
No one said it would be easy, but we will kill many more of them than they will
of us.
Such wars continue for YEARS
before they eventually end with an agreement of some kind. There is
no victor in this blob of ***** the US has made. If the US manages to
assassinate OBL, then there will be an even bigger display of terror
in the lives of you average Americans.
So you suggest what? Surrender?
Tony
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: Al-Qaeda's strength highlights urgent need for changes in US policy |
28 May 2004 10:19:52 AM |
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On 28 May 2004 13:02:12 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Cuan
I disagree. If that is the mentality of the USG, then they seriously
need to hire some *literal* intelligence in the WH. Whether they're
in the mountains or on the plains, it's not >going to make any difference.
Wrong. It is much easier to target these terrorists in Iraq, than in
Afghanistan.
why do you think that? I think you're hanging onto the hope, as
suggested by MaxBlast, that there was a more cunning motive on the
part of the US behind the invasion of Iraq, other than all the
'hoo-ha' that was cited. I would agree.
Osama bin Laden's "troops" are as recognisable as the
population they're a part of. By the time you see them, you're nearly
dead. It's called Guerrilla warfare.
No one said it would be easy, but we will kill many more of them than they will
of us.
Yes, I noticed that when the US invaded Iraq, killing all those
thousands of 'terrorists' hiding behind their outdated artillery. I
think the majority of coalition losses occured due to pilots flying
into each other and US aircraft dropping 'smart' bombs on British
troops on the ground. If you ask me, the fog of war was very much in
effect during that bumble of an invasion.
But it's true. During the invason of Afghanistan, the US employed
cluster bombs and napalm to scorch the mountain sides, killing
whatever wildlife and plantlife and any other form of life that may
have been hiding there. I think there were more US casualties caused
by pilot error and equipment malfunction than in the actual engagement
of enemy fire. So you're right - you did kill more of them than your
own. If I were your military, I would rather have said those aircraft
were shot down by enemy fire, than to adamently blame it on your
equipment and pilots.
Such wars continue for YEARS
before they eventually end with an agreement of some kind. There is
no victor in this blob of ***** the US has made. If the US manages to
assassinate OBL, then there will be an even bigger display of terror
in the lives of you average Americans.
So you suggest what? Surrender?
You're missing the point, dumbo. Your masters should never have got
the world into this mess in the first place. Get it? We're crying
over spilt 'milk'. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Any more
analogies to help you understand?
The whole situation is a set-up! War is profitable to certain people,
and it is only just beginning. Everything you're seeing on TV is
designed to do one thing - to escalate. Israel is going to be in the
hot-seat sooner than I expected, and I don't think the US will, or
even can, do anything about it. I think to myself...at least they
have nukes to defend themself with. Get the picture now?
Carry on paying lip service to your government because one day, the
"land of the free" may be a tale told to children to help them sleep
better at night. Maybe your loyalty today will earn you special
treatment in the new USA. We can already see the errosion of rights
beginning. Initially it was the Moslem population after 9/11, and one
day suspicions may broaden. Americans may have to start getting used
to looking for mines under stairwells and elevators and on busses and
trains, like we had to. Children in school may attend demonstrations
from the Army showing them how to recognise mines and weaponry by
name, like we had to. Only this time, it'll be powders in packets,
and depleted uranium.
"Roll up! Roll up! Kids! Get your Donald Duck geiger counters here
for only $...."
When/If these things happen, could we expect to hear a change in your
tune?
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