On 29 Jun 2004 18:13:55 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
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(TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
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(TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
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(TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
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You can bet your steroid addled ***** that I'll have children someday.
But I'm not quite sure anymore if I want to have them HERE where
bastards like you enjoy living in a perpetual state of war though.
And you deny hating America?
I don't hate the *real* America, of course not. Do I hate what Bush &
Co. are doing to America? You bet.
Yeah, I see that you have no blame for the Terrorists that are attacking
our
troops in Afghanistan and Iraq,
Our troops should have NEVER gone >>>to Iraq in the first place.
So you somehow know more than the >>last 3 Presidential administrations?
Apparently so.
Yeah of Dippi, dream on.
Bushhas a lot of blood on his hands. >>>Bush & Co. That's who I blame.
Because you're a brainwashed idiot who >>hasn't a clue about what is going on
over there.
If that's the case (which it's not) - I'm by >far not the only one who
sees this. We're all seeing it now. Take >a look at the latest news.
Yes there are many of brainwashed idiots out there, you're not alone.
Well the "brainwashed idiots" are definitely the majority rule.
What about the latest news, Dippi? I doubt that you know what the latest news
is.
Sure I do - EVERYONE is talking about Bush's big fat lie now.
Isee that you could careless about the plots
that will soon come to fruition that are being planned to take place
within
our
nation by these very same people.
Why wouldn't I care? I live here, stupid. Do you think I have a death
wish?
I'm scared to death of a terrorist attack.
Well then it would make sense for you to support our effort to rid the
world of
Terrorists, but you don't.
Oh I *do* support ridding the world of terrorists - that's why I'm
opposed to the disaster Bush & Co have caused in Iraq!
I want nothing more than to rid the world of terrorists.. *which* is
one of the reasons I'm opposed to what we've done in Iraq. You really
don't geddit, do you?
Well stupid, Iraq is a well known sponser of Terrorism, Saddam was paying out
$25,000 to the families of suicide bombers for years, many Al Qeada suspects
went to Iraq to hide. That you don't know these things show that you have no
idea what you are talking about.
No matter how much you try to divert - I will always go directly back
to the reason we were told that Iraq needed to be invaded; that would
be because of the "imminent threat" Saddam's WMD's posed.
No WMD.
No imminent threat.
Only countless deaths.
Only destruction.
Only lies.
Do I only want the very, very
best for my future children - you know it
And if we don't stop the Islamic murders now, there won;t be a future
for you or your children.
If Bin Laden was caught (or even a high priority) that sentiment would
hold a lot more water.
He is and always has been high priority. Do you think that this nation
cannot
do 2 things at once?
Have a look - notice the discrepancy?:
**......................................................
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
................................................................................................................**
You did NOT comment on the above, Tony! Oh I wonder why!
I suppose that if you were alive back in 1942 you would have said that we
should only go to war with the Japanese and not the Germans.
I have no idea - I wasn't alive.
Yes, I know that was too difficult of a question for your puny little mind.
There's absolutely not a fucking thing I can do about what happened in
1942! That's over and done with. I'm concentrating on what's
happening now in 2004. Stop trying to divert by bringing up ancient
history that has absolutely no relevence today.
But as it stands now, we're creating and
inciting *more* terrorists by dropping bombs on an oppressed people.
LOL!!!
Typical Left Wing drivel "oppressed people", you don't know WTF you are
talking about, we are not targetting nnocent people,
Maybe not targetting them.. but the civilian casualties (or how you so
callously put it - the "collateral damage") is hundreds of innocent
Iraqi deaths...and much more severely, and some *permanently* wounded.
You're clueless and just repeating Liberal talking points, you haven't a clue
as to how many people have been killed by our forces verses those killed by the
Terrorists in Iraq. Hint: Many more have been killed by the Terrorists.
ONE death is too many when the death was in VAIN. When the war was in
VAIN. When the fighting was in VAIN.
And for what?
To free the Iraqi people you stupid pig.
But the reason we went in there was to rid Saddam of his WMD that was
supposedly an imminent threat to *us*! When that ploy failed - it was
to free the Iraqi people - when that ploy failed it was because Saddam
had connections to Bin. I told you I will go back to Bush's drama
queen speech:
"Saddam has WMD that pose an imminent threat to the West. We must rid
him of the WMD; which btw can be deployed within 45 minutes."
*****!
the "oppressed people" of Iraq
support our efforts to rid their nation of Terrosits, who do you think the
Terrorists are targetting over there right now? The Iraqi people, that's
who.
Sheesh are you ever clueless.
Wrong.
You are so clueless as to the facts that it is laughable.
Wrong. I kinda wish I was though to be honest with you. Ignorance is
bliss. You must have such a joyous life.
We're the richest, most powerful nation and we're picking on the little
guys.
Are you insane? You're now calling Saddam Hussein and his henchmen and
Al Qeada "little guys",
No, the innocents that are caught in the middle.
And we're picking on them? No, we are fighting against the Terrorists and
Saddam supporters.
It's being fought on their soil; they are caught in the middle -
they've been killed; maimed; crippled - lost their homes; watched
their loved ones die etc.. OVER A LIE!
that's who we're fighting dear, not the Iraq people,
Tell that to the Iraqi children who will be crippled for life.
You're so stupid, talking to you is like talking to a freakin dog, you
understand about as much as a dog would.
I just told you that some Iraqi children will be crippled for life and
you call me names? You have no heart or soul, do you? Is it your
daughter that's crippled for life? Your daughter that's considered:
"Collateral damage"? You're sick.
And btw - dogs are extremely intelligent creatures. You're nowhere
near as smart as them. My dogs would immediately show their teeth
and growl if you walked into the room.
the
Iraqi people are joining the Police force, jopining the Military in order to
fight the very same people that we are fighting.
The Iraqi people just want to wake up one day without living in fear.
Yes, and if we had not gotten rid of Saddam that day would never come. But
you'd be happier if we hadn't gone after Saddam, so WTF are you talking about
Dippi? You're not concerned about the Iraqi people at all.
No I'd be happier if a bunch of people didn't die over a lie. And yes
I DO care about the Iraqi people. You obviously don't If the ends
justify the means, eh? Smug *****. And btw, Saddam is gone, is
there still not utter chaos even *worse* than before now in Iraq? Is
there not more deaths; more wounded; more families broken apart?
And for what?
Where do you get you info? You are so >>>brainwashed.
From the news. And from this group.
What news?
The newspapers, the internet and the Television.
And from this group.
ROFLMAO!!!! In other words from Chris and Amy. What a joke.
Everyone who talks about it really - I listen to all sides. I'm a
student, remember? I may not always respond, but I *am* listening and
taking it all in.
And from my instincts and rationale.
ROFLMAO!!! What an idiot.
You would think that's an idiotic statement because you have neither.
What were we told? We were told that Iraq was an imminent threat,
Tony. We were told that the troops had to go in there and rid Saddam
of his WMD's that could be deployed within 45 minutes. I'm only
repeating what I was told. But instead we killed Saddam's kids and
dragged Saddam from a hole in the >ground.
You say that as if you feel sorry for "Saddam's kids" like they were some
innocent little boys.
Not at all. They were horrible. Saddam was horrible. But that STILL
was not the *reason* we were told we were going over there.
Blah Blah Blah.
You say that because you know I'm right.
And in the meantime killed
American Soldiers who were also lied to AND killed innocent Iraqi
citizens who fear us MORE than they feared Saddam.
You're fucking insane!!!!
Over 9 hundred American Soldiers were killed because of a lie. I blame Bush
and Co.
And this somehow supports your lie that the Iraqi people fear us more than they
feared Saddam?
900 American Soldiers dying has nothing to do with my statement that
the Iraqi people fear us more than Saddam. Are you truly that stupid
or are you just trying to divert again?
Saddam was horrible, we all know that.. but to go over there under
false pretenses (ie a lie) and *pretend* we care about the Iraqi
people rather than giving the *real* reason we're there is sick. Yes
I know they feared Saddam...but I'm sure when they heard that the most
powerful country in the world was coming over with bombs they were
just a teensy-weensy bit more fearful.
Like I said you're fucking insane, Saddam killed over a Million innocent
Iraqi's, he used Chemical weapons on them, he raped their wives and daughters,
he put them before firing squads, he poisoned them, he put them in vats of
acid, etc.
And I'm VERY glad he's gone. Still doesn't change the fact that the
war was based on a lie and it killed American Soldiers that had their
whole lives ahead of them. Still doesn't change the fact that much
more Iraqi citizens are now dead and others maimed for life.
And for what?
You are fucking clueless on this usbject, yet you want to try to debate this as
if you know something, you don't,
I *wish* I was clueless on the subject. I wish to God I didn't know.
you hate President Bush and that is your sole
reasoning behind all of your lies.
That is not the reason. And I'm not "lying" ..
Where do you get this outlandish idea? The Iraqi people do not fear us more
than they feared Saddam.
Already answered above.
Put it this way: We may be totally opposed to their way of life; we
may not understand it - but who are we to impose OUR way of life onto them?
What kind of a fucking nut are you? No one is imposing our way of life on the
Iraqi's, the country has now been handed over to the Iraqi people, they will
hold elections to pick their own leaders in 6 months.
That's wonderful Tony - but I'm not going to let you divert. I will
always go back to the LIE I was told. The lie that killed American
Soldiers.
You are so stupid, God are you ever stupid.
You are the stupid one for not seeing how unbelievabley smart
I really am.
This quote from you is you most clueless to date, and that's pretty damn
clueless.
Are you so naive to think that if we just bring our troops home that
the
Terrorists will not continue to come after us?
Are you so naive to think that they don't want us taken down a million
times more now, than they did before we stepped on their soil? "What
comes around goes around."??
Uh, they wanted us dead before, dead is dead, or don't you understand that?
Dead begets dead - or don't you understand that?
...There were a shot load of hornets flying around, bub, but the nest
has fallen from the tree and is officially broken open now.
You stupid *****, they attacked us numerous times since 1993 and would have
continued doing so no matter what we did in Iraq. But us going into Iraq has
killed thousands of Terrorists who would be training to come here and kill us.
Oh but the reason was the WMD remember! The *non-existant* WMD.
Don't divert. I wish I tape recorded Bush's speeches, man. I still
remember them as if he did the drama queen routine yesterday, though.
"Oh Iraq is an *imminent* threat! The WMD can be deployed within 45
minutes! We're going in and that's that! Coalition or no coalition
we'll go it alone!"
SHOWDOWN: IRAQ!
....all the while forgetting about Bin Laden.
Our Soldiers were pawns. They were used. I wish to God it was Bush
and the rest of them that were sent to fight.
And I hope that you are the first to die in any Terrorist attack on this
nation.
Gee thanks! What a "Christian" you are!
And you'll probably be thankful that a poor Terrorist was allowed to live so
that he could ahve the chance to do so.
You said you hope I die in a terrorist attack (gee wonder why? maybe
so I'll stop kicking yor ***** perhaps!?!) - then you try to twist and
say I would be "thankful" if a terrorist is allowed to live? Are you
insane or dumb? Or both? What the ***** are you babbling about?
What if I had a son, and
by some nightmare of a chance this war is still going on by the time
he turns 18.. and he got called off to go and die *in vain*??
Fighting for your country against Terrorism is not in vain.
Fighting because you were LIED to is in vain.
You're clueless as I have proven above.
You've proven nothing except the fact that you have no idea
how to deny irrefuteble truth. I say they fought over a lie - hence
they fought and died in vain.. and your comeback is I'm "clueless" -
Brilliant!
More and more American people *by the day* must also be cluless then.
Doesn't make any of you less clueless.
Majority rules.
Three
more American Soldiers died just >>>today, Tony.. and for what? What did
they die for? There's no WMD's over >>there.
Yes there are WMD over there,
Where? Up Saddam's *****?
Hidden in the desert or mountains, hidden in Syria, Libya etc.
Then I guess you can personally now go and apologize to all the Iraqi
people, Tony. You just said it yourself that the WMD are not in Iraq.
How stupid can you get? You get moreso with every comment. Hidden in the desert
and mountians means within Iraq you boob.
They have not been found. Now go and apologize to the Iraqi people.
not only that, there are Terrorists over there,who if they are not
taken
out, will find their way over here.
We're creating more terrorists by the day.
No, Terrorists are creating Terrorists.
We're inciting them.
LOL!!!!
LOL!!!
You Idiotic brainwashed moron, did we incite them prior to 9-11? Did we incite
them prior to the WTC bombing of 1993? Or before they blew up two of our
Embassies in Africa in 1998?
Why did Bush lie about WMD in Iraq? Why did he send Soldiers to die
in vain? As I said - no matter how much you try to divert, I will
ALWAYS go back to what I was told prior to the Iraq invasion.
You're clueless, you shoudl be allowed to open your mouth or type on a keyboard
about this subject because you are uttetly clueless.
You're the one who can do nothing but call names - so who is clueless?
That you think if we crawl out of Iraq with our tails between our legs is
going to thwart Terrorism shows just how clueless you are.
We should not have gone there in the first place.
Yeah, we should just sit home and wait to be attacked again. Gee, thanks for
the lesson on how to commit national suicide.
Attacked with what? There was no imminent threat. There were no WMD.
Yes, we most definitely SHOULD have stayed home.
Bush took us all for a ride. And that's the gruesome, ugly truth.
You obviously don't read much.
If you only knew.
It's too obvious dear, you don't read much at all on this subject, except
maybe what that fat blimp Michael Moore has to say.
I read and watch everyday.
Yeah, but what?
The news.
It's the opposite, ***** - I want America back.
Back to what exactly?
Strong yet benevolent.
LOL!!! And that measn what exactly? Sitting back waiting to be attacked
again?
Strong: getting the terrorists (Bin, Al-Queda et al) .
Uh, Dippi, Al Qeada is in Iraq by the thousands.
But that's not the reason we were told we were going there.
I'll always go back to that.
.protecting our
borders - preventing war on our soil.
And you think this is done how exactly?
We've done a good job so far. I'm very, very relieved and happy about
that. But if we continue to attack countries based on big fat
malicious lies with ulterior motives - I pray to God that doesn't
change our safe stance.
Benevolent: leaving the innocents alone..
Funny, you wanted us to leave Saddam alone so that he could continue his reign
of Terror over these innocents you suddenly seem so concerned about.
No - I didn't want American Soldiers to be sent off to fight and die
in vain over a lie.
Need I remind you that since 9-11 President Bush has not allowed another
Terrorist strike to occur in America?
Yes, and I *pray* that our soil remains untouched. BUT he did lie to
all of us and send innocent Soldiers to get killed. For that I can
never forgive or trust.
He did not lie, that you think he did just goes to show how brainwashed you are
by all of the AntiAmercians.
The vast majority of the world must be brainwashed also then.
You want to blame him for everything, then you must give him credit for all
that is good as well.
You just confirmed that you have a very low opinion of your own
country,
for most of the people in this country support the war effort.
LOL! Loads of Americans do NOT support the war in Iraq.
You're wrong, try reading up on this.
Wrong.
Ok idiot.
Just using your brilliant retort.
You don't look at the truth because you're afraid.
No, that's you and your Liberal friends, I know what the truth is, the
truth
is
that the Islamic radical that we are now fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq
want us all dead.
I'm going back to what I was told...don't try to divert.
Told what by whom?
Told by President Bush. I will repeat what I was told:
"Saddam has WMD that can be deployed within 45 minutes. We have to go
in there and dismantle the WMD. Iraq is an imminent threat."
And Tony Blair stands by this statement, it was the British Intelligence
services that gave President Bush this info.
I blame Blair too - but he isn't anywhere as stupid as Bush is.
Where is the "Mastermind" of 9/11? The "most wanted man in the world"?
We're hunting him, just as we have every day since 9-11.
Mmmm-hmmmm.
READ:
**...................................................................................................................
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
......................................................................................................................**
Do you know he said this? Because one man does not Al Qeada make. It is a huge
organization spread across 60 nations. We could get Bin Laden tomorrow, but
that won't end this war.
That has nothing to do with those quotes. Nice backpeddling.. you do
so because you know it's the ugly truth.
Where are the WMD's that were an "imminent threat"?
Some have been found, the factories which once could produce these
weapons have been destroyed.
Then why is the whole world (including A LOT of Americans) so
vehemently opposed to what the administration has done?
Because like you they are listening to the people that hate America.
AMERICANS hate Americans? Themselves? Their country? LOL!
Love the logic, Tone. It's the opposite, we love our country and hate
what has happened to it.
Bush must think we all have severe memory problems. Well, I don't.
Not only do you have memory problems (which I have proved many times) but
you
are woefully ignorant of the facts.
You've proven absolute Jack-*****. Kinda like you "proved" I have OCD?
(lol, that little episode *was* priceless!) And if you call me
ignorant, then I guess I'm in some very good company.. majority rules
buddy - everyone is starting to see exactly what I see. The truth.
LOL!!! So because you might convert a majority into being Anti-Americans you
think that makes you right?
More and more people by the day are seeing the truth, Tony.. read the
latest news (God, I'm sick of repeating myself.)
Don't you ever ask yourself
why the attention has been completely taken off of Bin Laden? You
don't, do you?
No, because the attention is not off of Bin Laden at all. To say so shows
that you have no clue as to what you
are talking about
***** it isn't.
Clueless.
Wrong.
The only time Bin Laden is mentioned now is when Bush tries to cover
his sorry ***** and say Al-Queda had/has ties with Iraq. Of course he
only says that because he knows how badly he fucked-up, and hopes that
if we believe Bin and Al-Queda were in cohoots with Saddam our
patriotism will come emerging through again with full force and we'll
justify what he's done in Iraq.
LOL!!! There have been ties between Iraq and Al Qeada going back over 10
years, just look at all the top Al Qeada figures that have sought refuge in
Iraq over the years, those are facts Dani, not made up stories that your
left
wing friend like to spout out.
That was not the reason we were told we were invading Iraq. No matter
how you try - I will not forget what I was told by Bush.
You're a brainwashed moron.
You sound like you're a ten year old.
Musab Al Zaqawri, the top Al Qeada figure in Iraq right now, fled
Afghanistan
and sought refuge in Iraq two years ago. Why did he flee to Iraq? I'll tell
you
why, because he had friends there.
And this justifies the WMD lie how?
How stupid can you be? I just showed you one connection between Iraq and Al
qeada
and retort with a stupid question.
And how does this justify the WMD lie?
The master mind of the 1st WTC bombing in 1993 fled to Iraq. Why? Because
he had friends there.
And this justifies the WMD lie how?
So Saddam should have been able to hide all of these Terrorists in Iraq?
No. But that isn't what we were told was the reason prior to the
invasion, was it?
No matter how much you try to divert - I will go directly back to what I was
told by Bush.
Hey stupid, I guess your memory is failing you once again, President Bush told
us shortly after 9-11 that we would go after any nation that helped or harbored
any Al Qeada, now go back up and read where the Al Qeada were hiding.
Afghanistan and Pakistan and Korea are barely even priorities anymore,
Tony. Wonder why.
But you somehow forgot that President Bush said that because it doesn't fit
your agenda.
I forget nothing. Which is why neither you nor Bush & Co. can pull a
fast one on me.
You are so clueless, yet you want to try to act like you know something
about
this, you prove that you know nothing except the drivel that is
regurgitated
to you from your Liberal friends and the boob tube.
Wrong. It's actually quite simple to put together (for me anyway.)
You're simple all right, and when you leave out key things it makes it that
much easier for you to deny the truth.
I wish I was simple, Tony.
Dani
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