On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:04:13 -0700, Steven Douglas wrote:

On Apr 23, 2:34 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:33:16 -0700, Marvin The Paranoid Android wrote:

Steven Douglas wrote:

On Apr 21, 1:26 pm, Marvin The Paranoid Android
<marvinparanoidandr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

How times change.

Yesterday's talking points are todays embarassments.

Reid is right -- the war is lost. Bring 'em home.

By the way, Marvin, the legality of removing Saddam from power was
addressed by Senator Reid when he voted to authorize the use of
military force in Iraq:

HARRY REID: "We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that
Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in
further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass
destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal
constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and
justifies resumption of the armed conflict." Senator Harry Reid (D.
Nevada) addressing the US Senate, October 9, 2002, Congressional
Record, p. S10145

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page...

A lot of Dems voted for the war. They did so out of post 9-11 fear
and twisted intel or they just wanted to hand Bush enough rope that'd
he hang himself.

The war is lost.

Voting to authorize it is one thing. Mismanaging it and losing it is
another.

Let's be clear on this - Congress voted to give Bush the authority to do
what was needed to be done for the security of the United States. They
did not declare War. This is *Bush's* war, not Congress' war.

Let's be even further clear on this -- Congress gave Bush
authorization to use military force in Iraq. That's what they voted
on, not some ambiguous creation of your imagination.

If Bush needed to, yes, but the decision to invade was Bush's - he
declared war, NOT Congress.