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User: "kali yuga 2004"
Date: 01 Dec 2003 08:48:11 PM
Object: Re: Brace Yourself :-)
Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....
The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty.....
They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...
============================================================================
cloghan@softcom.net wrote in message news:<3FCB7C2A.B5A57B4D@softcom.net>...

The Shrub just ordered the Pentagon to create and manufacture ASAP a similar
line of weapons. Now the fun starts!

cloghan@softcom.net wrote:

ARE THE RUSSIANS WILLING TO START
WORLD WAR III?

According to a recent article by veteran British military
analyst Joseph Vialls,
Russia has sent the most advanced and feared missile in the
world, owned only by
Russia and China, the P270 Moskit, also known as the 'Sunburn,'
to Damascus
and Tehran. This can only be understood as a counter to the
Israeli threats to use
nuclear weapons against their enemies.

The Sunburn flies at an altitude of 60 feet and is nearly
impossible to defend
against. A few fired at Israel could make that state 'history.'

Add to this a new Russian air force installation near the
Kyrgystan/Russia border,
coupled with a Chinese base just over their western border with
Kyrgystan, and
Armageddon may be on the horizon. All Russian jets at this new
base just outside
of Bishkek are equipped with Sunburn missiles.

Vialls writes:

"The gloves are off, and with America and Israel still unable
to steal any oil from
Iraq because someone keeps blowing the pipelines, Russian and
Chinese firepower
buildup suddenly slammed the door firmly shut on Caspian oil
reserves in the old
Soviet republics. For more than a decade American oil
multinationals have been
conducting 'joint ventures' in the former Soviet republics
bordering the Caspian Sea,
with the stated intent of pumping stolen crude oil out through
Turkey, then on to
western markets. Now this route has been blocked permanently,
and America is in no
position to do anything about it, because a large part of the
U.S. conventional army is
currently bogged down in Iraq, being shot at and killed on a
daily basis".

For many who have been watching this region as a confrontation
between the
United States and Israel versus Russia largely over the control
of the biggest gas
and oil deposits in the world, a new front has been opened.

As a response to this checkmate, Sharon recently visited Putin
on Nov. 3 to meet
with him concerning the nuclear issue in Iran. Quickly, Sharon
permitted
Palestinians to return to their jobs and eased their travel
restrictions.

Since the end of the Gorbachev era, the Russian oligarchs,
nearly all Jewish by
ethnicity (with the noticeable exception of Vladimir Potanin),
have controlled
nearly all key sectors of the Russian economy. This, of course,
includes Russia's
major ace-in-the-hole, oil and gas. The giant YUKOS
conglomerate is presently
one of the largest oil companies in the world, valued at about
$40 billion.

YUKOS is the result of a 'loans for shares' deal brokered
through the
semi-coherent Boris Yeltsin in 1995. Here, the liberal Russian
government
swapped loyalty from the oligarchs in exchange for
privatization at prices far below
that of the market. This $40 billion giant was bought for about
$300 million, thus
looting the entire Russian economy for the benefit of a handful
of Israeli citizens
living in Russia.

When YUKOS' chair, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was arrested at the
end of last
month, the American capitalist establishment went orbital.
Forgetting the 1999
New York Times's expose on massive money laundering and fraud
from YUKOS,
the conservative establishment began to lionize oligarchy and,
specifically,
Khodorkovsky.

Recently, The Financial Times weighed in with a giggly piece
from Chrystia
Freeland, which referred to the oligarch as a 'democratic
activist.' About a
paragraph later, the writer said - without irony - that the
oligarch's model for
economics is the robber baron factories of the early American
20th century. Fox
News, on Nov. 3, referred to YUKOS as the most progressive
corporation in
Russia.

According to a Nov. 3 Agence France-Presse story, Khodorkovsky
made a deal
with Jacob Rothschild this year that control of the YUKOS giant
would pass to
Rothschild in the event of Khodorkovsky's arrest. However, the
Russian
government has frozen all YUKOS assets for the time being.

It is significant that YUKOS's liberal pressure group, the Open
Russia
Foundation, is completely controlled by Rothschild now that its
founder is in jail.
As their official mission statement reads, "The motivation for
the establishment of
the Open Russia Foundation is the wish to foster enhanced
openness,
understanding and integration between the people of Russia and
the rest of the
world."

Their board of trustees includes Rothschild and Henry
Kissinger. The
Washington, D.C. launch of the organization included Sen. Ted
Stevens
(R-Alaska) and Librarian of Congress James Billington, one of
the leading voices
against Russian traditionalism in the academic establishment.
Significantly, the
Open Russia Foundation recently provided Yale University with
substantial grants
to study the Russian economy as well as providing the Carnegie
Foundation with 3
percent of its entire operating budget.

It seems that the drive to control the globe's energy is
progressing. The
American empire's battles in Serbia, Central Asia, Iraq and
Chechnya are one and
the same war. Other than fighting Israel's enemies, these
adventures are also
wars to control Central Asian oil and natural gas (one of the
main pipelines from
the Caspian Sea went straight through Serbia). The control of
this wealth by the
United States and Israel necessitates bypassing Russian
channels. This means
that the Jewish oligarchy in Russia would become the central
actor in world
politics.

The Israeli/CIA complex was using Khodorkovsky to sell off the
assets of
YUKOS to Exxon/Mobil (as well as a smaller piece to Texaco),
hence bringing
Russia's pipelines into the hands of the western powers. The
Nov. 5 New York
Times also indicated that the Bush family's Carlyle Group was
involved.

It was not long after Putin began threatening the YUKOS
conglomerate that
neo-conservative pundits such as William Kristol and Ariel
Cohen began calling
Putin a 'communist,' 'another Stalin' and 'tyrannical.'

The basis of these wild accusations, of course, is the fact
that Putin stands in the
way of Zionist domination.

From this, the roles of several other variables and players
develop clearly. The
State Department/Harvard University alliance was meant to
'deregulate,' or
'privatize' much of the Russian economy precisely to keep the
Russian state out
of the equation. Therefore, pro-Israel oligarchs (that is,
Israeli citizens living in
Russia) then benefited, placing most of the economy in their
hands, and, by
extension, Israel's.

Russia's response has been to clamp down on further foreign
penetration into
defense and other sensitive industries, and specifically, to
target those believed to
be working for both the CIA and Mossad and attempting to
control Central Asian
oil.

It needs to be reiterated that where the (CIA goes, Mossad goes
as well. Israeli
and American interests have come together in the dominance of
the Central Asian
region and therefore, so have liberal ideology, the Beltway
set, neo-conservatism,
Ivy League eggheads, Christian Zionism, the Rothschilds and the
American
media.) Afghanistan through the Caspian Sea through to Georgia,
Azerbaijan and
into the Balkans (not to mention pipelines leading to
oil-hungry China), have
become one single theater of war over trillions of dollars in
oil and gas wealth,
incorporating every single power center in global politics. The
battle against the
New World Order is being decided in Moscow.

Therefore, all anti-Russian alliances in the region, from
Islamic fundamentalism to
Slavic separatism to the George Soros 'Open Society'
Foundation, are in the
interests of the CIA/Exxon/Ivy League/NWO complex.

In Azerbaijan, for example, American elites have pushed for a
'democratic' state,
that is, a state not under the control of pro-Moscow Heydar
Aliev, thus leaving
the country open to U.S. oil investment. Aliev, of course, is
promoting Russian
interests in the region, and thus, has become a ãtyrantä in the
Beltway mind.

The American response to this situation within this region is
to create the
GUAAM pact, including, Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan
and Moldova.

Cohen gives us a clue as to why this entity was brokered under
NATO auspices:
"The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline will export up to 1 million
barrels per year of
high quality Caspian crude oil by 2005." In other words,
billions of dollars of oil
are slated to be pumped through this region very soon, and the
economic/military
alliance of GUAAM is the means to ensure American control over
it. This
connects the Serbian, Afghan and Iraqi wars.

Russia's response to Israel's terror threats against most of
the Islamic world is
fully understood as both a political and economic question.
Further, increasing
cooperation between Russia and India, as well as China, are
clear markers that
Putin, one of the few actually competent leaders in world
politics, is building an
anti-imperialist and anti-NATO alliance with the aim of
countering
American/Zionist moves for the world's oil and gas wealth.

The interests, however, go even further than Zionist control
over American
foreign policy decision-making. Vialls writes on another topic:
that the existence
of the American/Zionist empire is based on the victory of
American forces over
the Russian and Islamic. Of course, both in Bosnia and
Chechnya, the
Mossad/CIA operatives have not hesitated

.

User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Brace Yourself :-) 15 Dec 2003 07:04:29 PM

cloghan@softcom.net wrote:


ARE THE RUSSIANS WILLING TO START
WORLD WAR III?

All nations and governments do exactly what the Illuminati and world banks
tell them to do, for war is made for profit, power and control only and the
Illuminati banks rule the world. The Illuminati's agenda, which is the New
World Order is to deplete the world's population to 500 million and then to
enslave the rest, while they set themselves up as gods. It won't matter
who's starts WWIII, for they all submit to the global elite, Illuminati.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"kali yuga 2004" <kaliyuga2004@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b557bc62.0312011848.6e08ebc7@posting.google.com...

Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....

The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty.....

They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...


============================================================================




cloghan@softcom.net wrote in message

news:<3FCB7C2A.B5A57B4D@softcom.net>...

The Shrub just ordered the Pentagon to create and manufacture ASAP a

similar

line of weapons. Now the fun starts!

cloghan@softcom.net wrote:

ARE THE RUSSIANS WILLING TO START
WORLD WAR III?

According to a recent article by veteran British military
analyst Joseph Vialls,
Russia has sent the most advanced and feared missile in the
world, owned only by
Russia and China, the P270 Moskit, also known as the

'Sunburn,'

to Damascus
and Tehran. This can only be understood as a counter to the
Israeli threats to use
nuclear weapons against their enemies.

The Sunburn flies at an altitude of 60 feet and is nearly
impossible to defend
against. A few fired at Israel could make that state

'history.'


Add to this a new Russian air force installation near the
Kyrgystan/Russia border,
coupled with a Chinese base just over their western border

with

Kyrgystan, and
Armageddon may be on the horizon. All Russian jets at this

new

base just outside
of Bishkek are equipped with Sunburn missiles.

Vialls writes:

"The gloves are off, and with America and Israel still unable
to steal any oil from
Iraq because someone keeps blowing the pipelines, Russian and
Chinese firepower
buildup suddenly slammed the door firmly shut on Caspian oil
reserves in the old
Soviet republics. For more than a decade American oil
multinationals have been
conducting 'joint ventures' in the former Soviet republics
bordering the Caspian Sea,
with the stated intent of pumping stolen crude oil out

through

Turkey, then on to
western markets. Now this route has been blocked permanently,
and America is in no
position to do anything about it, because a large part of the
U.S. conventional army is
currently bogged down in Iraq, being shot at and killed on a
daily basis".

For many who have been watching this region as a

confrontation

between the
United States and Israel versus Russia largely over the

control

of the biggest gas
and oil deposits in the world, a new front has been opened.

As a response to this checkmate, Sharon recently visited

Putin

on Nov. 3 to meet
with him concerning the nuclear issue in Iran. Quickly,

Sharon

permitted
Palestinians to return to their jobs and eased their travel
restrictions.

Since the end of the Gorbachev era, the Russian oligarchs,
nearly all Jewish by
ethnicity (with the noticeable exception of Vladimir

Potanin),

have controlled
nearly all key sectors of the Russian economy. This, of

course,

includes Russia's
major ace-in-the-hole, oil and gas. The giant YUKOS
conglomerate is presently
one of the largest oil companies in the world, valued at

about

$40 billion.

YUKOS is the result of a 'loans for shares' deal brokered
through the
semi-coherent Boris Yeltsin in 1995. Here, the liberal

Russian

government
swapped loyalty from the oligarchs in exchange for
privatization at prices far below
that of the market. This $40 billion giant was bought for

about

$300 million, thus
looting the entire Russian economy for the benefit of a

handful

of Israeli citizens
living in Russia.

When YUKOS' chair, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was arrested at the
end of last
month, the American capitalist establishment went orbital.
Forgetting the 1999
New York Times's expose on massive money laundering and fraud
from YUKOS,
the conservative establishment began to lionize oligarchy

and,

specifically,
Khodorkovsky.

Recently, The Financial Times weighed in with a giggly piece
from Chrystia
Freeland, which referred to the oligarch as a 'democratic
activist.' About a
paragraph later, the writer said - without irony - that the
oligarch's model for
economics is the robber baron factories of the early American
20th century. Fox
News, on Nov. 3, referred to YUKOS as the most progressive
corporation in
Russia.

According to a Nov. 3 Agence France-Presse story,

Khodorkovsky

made a deal
with Jacob Rothschild this year that control of the YUKOS

giant

would pass to
Rothschild in the event of Khodorkovsky's arrest. However,

the

Russian
government has frozen all YUKOS assets for the time being.

It is significant that YUKOS's liberal pressure group, the

Open

Russia
Foundation, is completely controlled by Rothschild now that

its

founder is in jail.
As their official mission statement reads, "The motivation

for

the establishment of
the Open Russia Foundation is the wish to foster enhanced
openness,
understanding and integration between the people of Russia

and

the rest of the
world."

Their board of trustees includes Rothschild and Henry
Kissinger. The
Washington, D.C. launch of the organization included Sen. Ted
Stevens
(R-Alaska) and Librarian of Congress James Billington, one of
the leading voices
against Russian traditionalism in the academic establishment.
Significantly, the
Open Russia Foundation recently provided Yale University with
substantial grants
to study the Russian economy as well as providing the

Carnegie

Foundation with 3
percent of its entire operating budget.

It seems that the drive to control the globe's energy is
progressing. The
American empire's battles in Serbia, Central Asia, Iraq and
Chechnya are one and
the same war. Other than fighting Israel's enemies, these
adventures are also
wars to control Central Asian oil and natural gas (one of the
main pipelines from
the Caspian Sea went straight through Serbia). The control of
this wealth by the
United States and Israel necessitates bypassing Russian
channels. This means
that the Jewish oligarchy in Russia would become the central
actor in world
politics.

The Israeli/CIA complex was using Khodorkovsky to sell off

the

assets of
YUKOS to Exxon/Mobil (as well as a smaller piece to Texaco),
hence bringing
Russia's pipelines into the hands of the western powers. The
Nov. 5 New York
Times also indicated that the Bush family's Carlyle Group was
involved.

It was not long after Putin began threatening the YUKOS
conglomerate that
neo-conservative pundits such as William Kristol and Ariel
Cohen began calling
Putin a 'communist,' 'another Stalin' and 'tyrannical.'

The basis of these wild accusations, of course, is the fact
that Putin stands in the
way of Zionist domination.

From this, the roles of several other variables and players
develop clearly. The
State Department/Harvard University alliance was meant to
'deregulate,' or
'privatize' much of the Russian economy precisely to keep the
Russian state out
of the equation. Therefore, pro-Israel oligarchs (that is,
Israeli citizens living in
Russia) then benefited, placing most of the economy in their
hands, and, by
extension, Israel's.

Russia's response has been to clamp down on further foreign
penetration into
defense and other sensitive industries, and specifically, to
target those believed to
be working for both the CIA and Mossad and attempting to
control Central Asian
oil.

It needs to be reiterated that where the (CIA goes, Mossad

goes

as well. Israeli
and American interests have come together in the dominance of
the Central Asian
region and therefore, so have liberal ideology, the Beltway
set, neo-conservatism,
Ivy League eggheads, Christian Zionism, the Rothschilds and

the

American
media.) Afghanistan through the Caspian Sea through to

Georgia,

Azerbaijan and
into the Balkans (not to mention pipelines leading to
oil-hungry China), have
become one single theater of war over trillions of dollars in
oil and gas wealth,
incorporating every single power center in global politics.

The

battle against the
New World Order is being decided in Moscow.

Therefore, all anti-Russian alliances in the region, from
Islamic fundamentalism to
Slavic separatism to the George Soros 'Open Society'
Foundation, are in the
interests of the CIA/Exxon/Ivy League/NWO complex.

In Azerbaijan, for example, American elites have pushed for a
'democratic' state,
that is, a state not under the control of pro-Moscow Heydar
Aliev, thus leaving
the country open to U.S. oil investment. Aliev, of course, is
promoting Russian
interests in the region, and thus, has become a ãtyrantä in

the

Beltway mind.

The American response to this situation within this region is
to create the
GUAAM pact, including, Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan
and Moldova.

Cohen gives us a clue as to why this entity was brokered

under

NATO auspices:
"The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline will export up to 1 million
barrels per year of
high quality Caspian crude oil by 2005." In other words,
billions of dollars of oil
are slated to be pumped through this region very soon, and

the

economic/military
alliance of GUAAM is the means to ensure American control

over

it. This
connects the Serbian, Afghan and Iraqi wars.

Russia's response to Israel's terror threats against most of
the Islamic world is
fully understood as both a political and economic question.
Further, increasing
cooperation between Russia and India, as well as China, are
clear markers that
Putin, one of the few actually competent leaders in world
politics, is building an
anti-imperialist and anti-NATO alliance with the aim of
countering
American/Zionist moves for the world's oil and gas wealth.

The interests, however, go even further than Zionist control
over American
foreign policy decision-making. Vialls writes on another

topic:

that the existence
of the American/Zionist empire is based on the victory of
American forces over
the Russian and Islamic. Of course, both in Bosnia and
Chechnya, the
Mossad/CIA operatives have not hesitated

.
User: "PQ"

Title: Re: Brace Yourself :-) 30 Dec 2003 07:04:45 PM
Wow! This is 'absolute' proof of the effects of game playing on human
beings! JC Denton said these very words in the game Deus Ex!
Well you're all doomed because in Deus Ex I chose the Chinaman option and
destroyed the Illuminati - the machines too! - hehehahahahaha (deep throaty
laugh as used by Dougall in 'Father Ted' when he held Ted's 'Golden Cleric
Award'). TVs' got a lot to answer for too...
PQ

All nations and governments do exactly what the Illuminati and world
banks tell them to do, for war is made for profit, power and control
only and the Illuminati banks rule the world. The Illuminati's agenda,
which is the New World Order is to deplete the world's population to
500 million and then to enslave the rest, while they set themselves up
as gods. It won't matter who's starts WWIII, for they all submit to
the global elite, Illuminati.


.


User: "Sumad"

Title: Re: Brace Yourself :-) 09 Dec 2003 06:34:15 AM
On 1 Dec 2003 18:48:11 -0800,
(kali yuga
2004) wrote:

Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....

The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty.....

They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...

Israel...second only to America
.
User: "DHM"

Title: Re: Brace Yourself :-) 09 Dec 2003 11:59:38 AM
Let me guess, you are some sort of stinky Muslim....
<Sumad Artson@fin.uk> wrote in message
news:d8gbtv0c3ugeiemf7cj49phupog7qic6uu@4ax.com...

On 1 Dec 2003 18:48:11 -0800,

(kali yuga
2004) wrote:

Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....

The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty.....

They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...


Israel...second only to America

.



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