On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Chris Schumacher <kensu__@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Brian Stinson" <stinson.brian@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:tPBTf.40438
$_S7.21277@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
"Hell is hot. That's never been disputed"
There's another Dante, by the name of Aligheri, who would disagree with
that. The lower levels of hell were covered with sheets of ice...
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It really depends on the particular soul's afflictions
as to how it experiences the heavens and hells in life
and the afterlife, etc. By their works they are judged.
You know, the "lake of fire", perdition, outer darkness...
Dante, Jerome, et al, shared generally the classical view,
as did Flavius Josephus, as did much of the ancient world;
albeit concepts of sin, karma, reincarnation, etc., varied
widely from time to time, and from place to place, and from
person to person, of course. For example, in his 'Discourse
to the Greeks concerning Hades', bk 1, ch 1, Josephus wrote:
"the just are guided to the right hand, and are led
with hymns, sung by the angels appointed over that
place, unto a region of light, in which the just
have dwelt from the beginning of the world; not
constrained by necessity, but ever enjoying the
prospect of the good things they see, and rejoice
in the expectation of those new enjoyments which
will be peculiar to every one of them, and estee-
ming those things beyond what we have here; with
whom there is no place of toil, no burning heat,
no piercing cold, nor are any briers there; but
the countenance of the and of the just, which they
see, always smiles them, while they wait for that
rest and eternal new life in heaven, which is to
succeed this region. This place we call The Bosom
of Abraham.
"But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to
the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment,
no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners
driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels
appointed over them to reproach them and threaten
them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them
still downwards. Now those angels that are set over
these souls drag them into the neighborhood of hell
itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually
hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the
hot vapor itself; but when they have a near view of
this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great
prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful
expectation of a **future judgment**, and in effect
punished thereby: and not only so, but where they
see the place [or choir] of the fathers and of the
just, even hereby are they punished; for a chaos
deep and large is fixed between them; insomuch that
a just man that hath compassion upon them cannot be
admitted, nor can one that is unjust, if he were
bold enough to attempt it, pass over it."
[end quote; **emphasis added]
You can read this in the broader context on this URL:
http://bible.crosswalk.com/History/BC/FlaviusJosephus/?book=Hades_1&chapter=1
Cf. the parable of the rich man and beggar [Luke 16:19-31ff]
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The general idea is that Plovton-Hades rules the underworld.
Literally, the realm miles beneath our feet, where it's hot,
seething, etc. In this classical sense, that has never been
disputed. But these, obviously, are simplistic mythological,
allegorical representations of occult, spiritual principles
infinitely more profound and no less real than the physical
plane is real--you know, like they say, it's hot down there,
or, it's cold out there. It's all a matter of perspective...
"No matter where you go, there you are!"
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
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