"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
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| User: "dude" |
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05 Feb 2004 03:59:19 AM |
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: storm in a teacup
Storm in a D-cup.
Answer: No
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| User: "Absolut F Queer" |
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05 Feb 2004 05:22:09 AM |
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dude wrote:
: storm in a teacup
Storm in a D-cup.
Answer: No
Thats no D cup- C at best (with a bit of help from wondabra
JAne
Absolut Queer
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| User: "dude" |
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05 Feb 2004 06:30:13 AM |
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: Thats no D cup- C at best (with a bit of help from wondabra
I was just goin' for the most obvious pun (I'd make a good sub-editor!!) I know
B and C also rhyme, but 'D' has the closest sound to 'tea'... hmmm.
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| User: "sUSAn B Anthony" |
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03 Feb 2004 11:08:41 PM |
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I musta misstit!
:)
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| User: "Luther Sloan" |
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04 Feb 2004 07:45:31 AM |
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Taken from http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/ website
---------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone is talking about it - the surprising stunt pulled by Janet Jackson
and Justin Timberlake during the Super Bowl halftime show. And it did the
unthinkable, its impact outdid the football game itself!
I'm of course talking about the 'Tivo moment' at the end of the performance
when Timberlake 'accidentally' ripped a portion of Janet's costume off,
fully exposing her right breast. Doing this not only on national television
but during the biggest American TV event is... well, it's definitely
something... (like her stuffed breast!).
At first, I didn't think too much about the show and the controversy. I only
wondered a little about the youthful and rebellious tone of the entire
extravaganza, thinking it might be on some level a voice of dissent directed
at the Bush administration. (Note that most musical performers in the
halftime show, as well as Beyoncé who sang the national anthem right before
the game, were black; and generally speaking blacks and the current
administration don't mix well.) While the breast thing was perhaps a little
too much, on some level I felt slightly hopeful seeing the subtly underlying
spirit of rebellion.
Then I saw a couple of posters in the Etemenanki forum observantly comparing
Janet Jackson's stunt to the national lady of France, Marianne, who is also
comparable to Lady Justice (as well as the Statue of Liberty). She
represents the true spirit of the United States - liberty and justice. As it
happens, Marianne/Lady Justice/Liberty is traditionally depicted with her
right breast exposed. It was also her right breast that Jackson graciously
put on display for us.
There were two big female black singers featured in the Super Bowl event,
Janet Jackson (the main attraction of the halftime show) and Beyoncé Knowles
who sang the national anthem. This creates a conceptual overlap between them
and thus would attach the notion of 'American spirit' (represented by the
anthem) to Janet as well, reinforcing the Lady Justice/Liberty connection.
[UPDATE: Janet prominently performed the song 'Rhythm Nation' from her 1989
album 'Rhythm Nation 1814'. The number '1814' is said to be a reference to
none other than the year that Francis Scott Key wrote the 'Star Spangled
Banner', i.e. the words to the national anthem!]
The pre-game show, which featured Beyonce, focused on the theme of
space/NASA because of the location and timing. This year's Super Bowl was
held in Houston (as in 'Houston, you have a problem') and coincided with the
anniversary of the Columbia disaster. It turns out, the name 'Columbia' has
sometimes been considered to refer to a symbolic figure who could be seen as
'Lady America' i.e. another version of Lady Justice/Liberty Lady. As we
learn:
Who is Columbia? Several years before the Revolutionary War many of the
people living in the thirteen colonies felt that our country should have
been named Columbia after its discoverer, Christopher Columbus. Throughout
the war, poets used the name "Columbia" to describe their new nation which
was to become the United States. The name continued to become popularized
after the war, and a symbolic figure of a woman dressed in flowing garnents
and holding an American flag emerged from the pens of artists. It become a
familiar figure for statues and pageants to depict America.
So this makes it rather clear that Janet Jackson, via exposing her right
breast and her juxtaposition with Beyonce (representing the American
spirit), was 'designed' to embody Lady Justice/Liberty - signifying or
prompting the rebirth of the spirit of 'Columbia'. The prevalent 'blackness'
additionally alludes to the pertinence of another related figure Mary
Magdalene, recently made popular by the huge success of the book The Da
Vince Code, as this biblical/esoteric 'wife' of Jesus - embodying the
feminine and sexuality - was sometimes portrayed as the 'Black Madonna'.
The 'American Spirit' (rover) recently sent by NASA to Mars would also hint
at a certain interplanetary link here, but... that's for another time.
Suffice it to say here that there is now an 'Opportunity' for the true
American 'Spirit' to rise up and move against her enemy... her rapist,
currently represented by the Bush administration.
Certainly, this year's presidential election is a big - and perhaps the
final - 'opportunity' for the common people to effectively push back the
imperial regime and Corporate America behind it, the enemy within. This
year's election may well be the most important one in American history -
because it is likely to end up being a decision between life and death for
the American spirit. Yes, this is it. This is the time to declare, perhaps
for the first and last time, 'Give me liberty or give me death!'
During his pathetic State of the Union speech last month, George W. Bush
shamelessly declared that the Patriot Act, scheduled to expire later this
year, needs to be renewed. The Patriot Act is of course anti-freedom,
anti-justice, and yes, unpatriotic. It is indeed a big step toward a
police-state New World Order. If permitted to renewed and expand, it will
end the US as we know it, quickly, and that's exactly what Cheney and the
rest of the neo-conservative camp (along with corporate/banking groups
behind them) want. Bush is just a puppet monkey who is clearly too dumb to
know what he's doing - exactly why he was installed in the White House via
the election theft of 2000.
It's certainly curious that one of the teams in this year's Super Bowl held
in the Bush/Cheney state of Texas was the Patriots, who won the game. So the
sport event was a 'Patriot Act' of some sort. This link is strengthened
further by the fact that the Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was somehow
invited to attend Bush's State of the Union speech...
And of course the big supporter/ enforcer of the un-American Patriot Act is
Attorney General John Ashcroft. He famously covered up the right breast of
the lady justice statue (named 'Spirit of Justice') in the Justice
Department's ornate Great Hall. The department spent $8,000 on curtains to
hide the statue - it's so symbolic, it's beyond funny... Well, it goes
without saying that this is the exact opposite of what Janet Jackson/Justin
Timberlake did. (It's unlikely the performers themselves were aware of the
symbolic significance, however.) Hence the message of the performance
becomes even clearer: it screams '***** you Ashcroft, your Patriot Act, and
your fascist buddies in the administration'.
Furthermore, the fact that it was the young singer Timberlake who actually
made Janet's 'breast of justice and liberty' come out sends the symbolic
message that it is largely up to the rebellious spirit of the younger
generation to rise up against the oppressive force now in power. This idea
is strongly echoed by the main song performed by Jackson during the halftime
show, 'Rhythm Nation'. Check out the lyrics:
'Rhythm Nation' (by Janet Jackson)
With music by our side
To break the color lines
Let's work together
To improve our way of life
Join voices in protest
To social injustice
A generation full of courage
Come forth with me
People of the world today
Are we looking for a better way of life
We are a part of the rhythm nation
People of the world unite
Strength in numbers we can get it right
One time
We are a part of the rhythm nation
This is the test
No struggle no progress
Lend a hand to help
Your brother do his best
Things are getting worse
We have to make them better
It's time to give a damn
Let's work together come on
People of the world today
Are we looking for a better way of life
We are a part of the rhythm nation
People of the world unite
Strength in numbers we can get it right
One time
We are a part of the rhythm nation
Right now there is an Opportunity, probably for the last time, for the true
American Spirit to rise up again - just as the Spirit rover on Mars is
trying to recover from its near-death condition. This is the time to stand
up and push back. The young spirit is rebellious by nature and it often
doesn't find the right outlet, bogged down by the system that blinds you.
Well, today we have it right in front of us - we have the enemy right there
in our sight. And this matters. Are we gonna be in the land of the brave or
the land of the timid? Is the fire of freedom and justice still burning
inside us? 'If so, then this is the time to get on our feet, speak up, and
fight. It's coming. Get ready.
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Jon Irenicus
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| User: "Gash Andler" |
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03 Feb 2004 10:25:56 PM |
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I watched the halftime show and I didn't even notice the boob shot.
So I didn't see the boob and I thought it was the tackiest halftime
show ever.
On 3 Feb 2004 19:31:28 -0800, (yipee yahoo)
wrote:
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
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| User: "Tourniquet" |
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03 Feb 2004 11:53:07 PM |
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Gash Andler <noemail@noemail.org> wrote:
I watched the halftime show and I didn't even notice the boob shot.
So I didn't see the boob and I thought it was the tackiest halftime
show ever.
The half-time shows really do suck. They should probably go back to
marching bands. I'm serious BTW.
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| User: "John Leister" |
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04 Feb 2004 03:02:18 AM |
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Tourniquet wrote:
Gash Andler <noemail@noemail.org> wrote:
I watched the halftime show and I didn't even notice the boob shot.
So I didn't see the boob and I thought it was the tackiest halftime
show ever.
The half-time shows really do suck. They should probably go back to
marching bands. I'm serious BTW.
Don't you mean the cheerleader things they used to have at half time?
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville" |
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04 Feb 2004 11:03:05 AM |
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Not at all! I thought her nipple ring decoration was
most stylish!!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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| User: "yipee yahoo" |
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05 Feb 2004 02:11:00 AM |
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP (Saint Isidore of Laytonville) wrote in message news:<20040204120305.00995.00000173@mb-m10.aol.com>...
Not at all! I thought her nipple ring decoration was
most stylish!!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
yeppers ;-)
yes siree yes indeedle-ly do ;-)
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| User: "yipee yahoo" |
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05 Feb 2004 03:01:25 AM |
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP (Saint Isidore of Laytonville) wrote in message news:<20040204120305.00995.00000173@mb-m10.aol.com>...
Not at all! I thought her nipple ring decoration was
most stylish!!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
yeppers ;-)
yes siree yes indeedle-ly do ;-)
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| User: "yipee yahoo" |
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05 Feb 2004 03:01:29 AM |
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP (Saint Isidore of Laytonville) wrote in message news:<20040204120305.00995.00000173@mb-m10.aol.com>...
Not at all! I thought her nipple ring decoration was
most stylish!!
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
yeppers ;-)
yes siree yes indeedle-ly do ;-)
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| User: "Dani" |
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03 Feb 2004 09:44:03 PM |
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On 3 Feb 2004 19:31:28 -0800, (yipee yahoo)
wrote:
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
A frigin' greed! Who CARES? It's just a boob for Christ sake.. get
over it. So what? Her boob came out - have we never seen a boob?
Jesus! The Media and tabloids are wacko (not Jacko)..
if they're worried about kids seeing breasts or Justin Timberlake or
rap music.. *simple* - don't have 'em watch it! Ha? Too complicated?
don't_have_the_kids_watch_it.. why the confusion? They knew Rap music
(which most parents disagree with ..was going to be on the super-bowl)
... so why were kids watching?
Yes Janet's boob was shown.. run along now.
Dani
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| User: "David Springthorpe" |
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03 Feb 2004 09:40:40 PM |
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On 3 Feb 2004 19:31:28 -0800, (yipee yahoo) wrote:
No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
You'd rather move "on" - or is that "down".....?
DS
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| User: "Gabbo!" |
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04 Feb 2004 08:26:24 PM |
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Yes, I hated seeing that soft... .bouncing....supple...suckable...lickable
breast! I just hated it!
yipee yahoo <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d52f86ab.0402031931.45b3647b@posting.google.com...
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message
news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of
hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
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| User: "nimue" |
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05 Feb 2004 06:51:48 AM |
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Gabbo! wrote:
Yes, I hated seeing that soft...
.bouncing....supple...suckable...lickable breast! I just hated it!
I can tell it was just traumatizing for you, you poor thing.
yipee yahoo <yipeeeyahooo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d52f86ab.0402031931.45b3647b@posting.google.com...
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message
news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK
of hearing 'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
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nimue
"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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05 Feb 2004 10:18:25 PM |
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yipee yahoo a écrit:
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
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She should have waited until the grammies to pull this stunt, or even the
"planned" show itself which was pretty strong for the superbowl, which is more
of a family thing.
She lost the opportunity though for anything at the grammies, whether it was a
real stunt or not...
J.
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| User: "John Leister" |
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06 Feb 2004 06:39:53 PM |
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yipee yahoo wrote:
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK of hearing
'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
Storm in a D cup
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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08 Feb 2004 02:38:52 AM |
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John Leister <sizzlesizzleslotslot@senet.com.au> Spat the Words
yipee yahoo wrote:
"CND" <cnd@cnd-enterprises.com> wrote in message
news:<401fd599$0$4259$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
No, I enjoyed it. And
No, I've seen boobs before, and it's no big deal.
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No -- It;s just a frickin' storm in a teacup and I am sick to FRICK
of hearing 'bout tit, Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-kay ?!?!?!?
;-)
Uncle Wally
Storm in a D cup
We'll remember it forever as SuperBowl XXXVIIID (38D).
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