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User: "World War Three 2003"
Date: 09 Jul 2003 10:51:43 PM
Object: Re: Eastern King of France (Timing)
(loftydragon) wrote in message news:<13db0072.0307030703.74703ec@posting.google.com>...

Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<rms7gvo74rdj6u1154rij0j0rc7fprllsh@4ax.com>...

On 2 Jul 2003 15:09:02 -0700,

(Leigh_Bee)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:

(loftydragon) wrote in message news:<13db0072.0307021019.1869f0f6@posting.google.com>...

(loftydragon) wrote in message news:<13db0072.0307010958.116c30c5@posting.google.com>...

Lee McCann translates a conversation that Jean-Ayme de Chavigny
records between Nostradamus and himself:

CHAVIGNY: Tell me, have you seen him [the Great Monarch], actually
looked upon him?

NOSTRADAMUS: 'Yes, I have indeed,' Nostradamus said smiling. 'And
searching his face I find there justice, sympathy and the wisdom to
serve his people. Four centuries separate him and me...


Perhaps Lee McCann would kindly tell us which book of Chavigny's he
actually found this in, on what page, and in which French words? :(



McCann was an honest individual who used his real name, M. BRITTON. I
personally suggest that readers consider consulting Leoni and Hogue
but please stay away from books written by one pseudo-Peter
Lemesurier!!!

Yep, U r right there !
Peter Ewart Britton's (aka: "Lemesurier") first two books, "The Great
Pyramid Decoded" and "The Armageddon Script" written in the mid to
late 1970's were excellent but ever since then his books have become
more and more rubbishy and coffee tablish to the point where now it's
not even worth looking at the cover -- heavily diluted gobbledygook
......
However, his first two books rank pretty high in my prophecy
collection of over
240 books.....
But forget about anything he writes now -- full of double standards
and hypocrisy.....
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User: "loftydragon"

Title: Re: Eastern King of France (Timing) 03 Aug 2003 12:54:57 PM
"Carolingian" <carolingian@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bgi22g$lc3@library1.airnews.net>...

I will give you a clue, he (Monarch) is a Hapsburg and of the Lilly
(Bourbon). St. Charles V & St. Louis IX. He is the seed of Pepin, the
blood of Constantine.


Here are my clues:
Birth: On a Thursday night during a celestial event, during a cold
winter, delayed birth, ascendent in one of three water signs, birth
during observation of a holiday, of humble family with initially
obscure lineage, birthmark on back of shoulders, born in the islands
of eastern Asia some four centuries after Nostradamus (1956-1966).
Name: His nom de guerre consists of three names the middle of which
means "ocean." This middle name was given to him by three sisters.
One of his names, probably the surname shows his royal lineage. His
device or ensignia (mudrike) has three heraldic symbols ('arms') one
of which is a bull's head.
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User: "Peter Lemesurier"

Title: Re: Eastern King of France (Timing) 03 Aug 2003 03:25:15 AM
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 22:46:19 -0500, "Carolingian"
<carolingian@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:

But forget about anything he writes now -- full of double standards
and hypocrisy.....

Hmm. Rather sounds as if they're not saying what "World War Three
2003" wants them to say any more, doesn't it?! ;)
*Some* people are willing to change their views as new research comes
in...
--
Peter
.

User: "Peter Lemesurier"

Title: Re: Eastern King of France (Timing) 03 Aug 2003 03:59:40 AM
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 22:46:19 -0500, "Carolingian"
<carolingian@hotmail.com> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:

However, his first two books rank pretty high in my prophecy
collection of over
240 books.....

But forget about anything he writes now -- full of double standards
and hypocrisy.....

Gee, it's a good job not everybody thinks that, isn't it?
However, since the subject has been raised...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Published Reviews of 'The Unknown Nostradamus' to date:
Ever since the seminal work of Pierre Brind'Amour, the critical
appraisal of the life and work of Nostradamus seems slowly to be
gaining ground among the still abounding uncritical literature about
the prophet. The most recent English publication of this much-needed
type is Peter Lemesurier's The Unknown Nostradamus. Lemesurier writes
in a fluent style and manages to include a great many hard facts about
the latest issues discussed among scholars in the field without
burdening his book with scientific jargon. No doubt this is a fine
piece of work, putting together a great number of sources used by the
prophet and original works by Nostradamus so far not published in
English.
Dr Elmar R Gruber, leading German Nostradamus expert
Readers seeking a balanced look at the controversial astrologer will
do well to start here.
Publishers Weekly
5 out of 5 stars. A comprehensive and up-to-date biography...
Extensively researched, filled with translations of contemporary
critiques of Nostradamus' work, offering full translations of
surviving documents, and much, much more, The Unknown Nostradamus is a
"must-read" for anyone seeking to learn more about this remarkable
figure...
Midwest Book Review
------------------------------------------------------------
Reviews of 'Nostradamus The Illustrated Prophecies' to date:
....a major breakthrough in Nostradamus research... notably successful
in translating "Les Propheties" into readable English and in giving to
the quatrains a more true meaning instead of the rough translations
that we knew until now. One of the most impressive achievements is the
explanation of Nostradamus's sources... a truly magnificent result.
Mario Gregorio, archivist of the international Nostradamus
Research Group
Lemesurier's book is a significant effort to reveal the written
sources underlying the prophecies of Nostradamus. He especially
manages to show convincingly how Nostradamus drew on contemporary
publications for implicit references in his abundant use of omens. In
this way Lemesurier reveals where Nostradamus really took his
"inspiration" for many of his prophetic verses. This book represents
one more substantial step in the critical evaluation of the work of
the famous Renaissance prophet.
Dr Elmar R. Gruber, leading German Nostradamus expert
Peter Lemesurier is well known in the uneasy world of Nostradamians as
a conscientious and accurate researcher. Probably his strongest point
is that he investigates the Prophecies of Nostradamus in the context
of the time when they were composed. His translation of the quatrains
is based on an impartial analysis of 16-century-related materials and
strict observance of the available historical sources.
Alexey Penzensky, prominent Russian Nostradamus scholar
An excellent edition of Nostradamus's Prophecies based on the original
editions (Lyon: 1555, 1557 and 1568) with their translations, and
especially its research into the textual and iconographic sources
(including the famous Mirabilis Liber). This new opus of Peter
Lemesurier will be just as helpful to the researcher as it will
intrigue the newcomer and interest him in the universe of the
Provençal prophet.
Dr Patrice Guinard, Director, Centre Universitaire de Recherche en
Astrologie (CURA)
------------------------------------------------------------------
General Review:
Peter Lemesurier’s measured and detailed studies of Nostradamus go a
great way to debunking the myths that surround this fascinating and
influential figure, while demonstrating respect and balance in
examining his wisdom and achievements
Bonjour Magazine, Jan-Feb 2003
------------------------------------------------------------------
Ah well ... can't win 'em all, can I? :(
--
Peter
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User: "Peter Lemesurier"

Title: Re: Eastern King of France (Timing) 03 Aug 2003 11:23:00 AM
In case anybody is interested, full details of both books are
available from http://www.nostradamus500.com
--
Peter
On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:59:40 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengal.demon.co.uk> either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Published Reviews of 'The Unknown Nostradamus' to date:

Ever since the seminal work of Pierre Brind'Amour, the critical
appraisal of the life and work of Nostradamus seems slowly to be
gaining ground among the still abounding uncritical literature about
the prophet. The most recent English publication of this much-needed
type is Peter Lemesurier's The Unknown Nostradamus. Lemesurier writes
in a fluent style and manages to include a great many hard facts about
the latest issues discussed among scholars in the field without
burdening his book with scientific jargon. No doubt this is a fine
piece of work, putting together a great number of sources used by the
prophet and original works by Nostradamus so far not published in
English.
Dr Elmar R Gruber, leading German Nostradamus expert

Readers seeking a balanced look at the controversial astrologer will
do well to start here.
Publishers Weekly

5 out of 5 stars. A comprehensive and up-to-date biography...
Extensively researched, filled with translations of contemporary
critiques of Nostradamus' work, offering full translations of
surviving documents, and much, much more, The Unknown Nostradamus is a
"must-read" for anyone seeking to learn more about this remarkable
figure...
Midwest Book Review

------------------------------------------------------------

Reviews of 'Nostradamus The Illustrated Prophecies' to date:


...a major breakthrough in Nostradamus research... notably successful
in translating "Les Propheties" into readable English and in giving to
the quatrains a more true meaning instead of the rough translations
that we knew until now. One of the most impressive achievements is the
explanation of Nostradamus's sources... a truly magnificent result.
Mario Gregorio, archivist of the international Nostradamus
Research Group

Lemesurier's book is a significant effort to reveal the written
sources underlying the prophecies of Nostradamus. He especially
manages to show convincingly how Nostradamus drew on contemporary
publications for implicit references in his abundant use of omens. In
this way Lemesurier reveals where Nostradamus really took his
"inspiration" for many of his prophetic verses. This book represents
one more substantial step in the critical evaluation of the work of
the famous Renaissance prophet.
Dr Elmar R. Gruber, leading German Nostradamus expert

Peter Lemesurier is well known in the uneasy world of Nostradamians as
a conscientious and accurate researcher. Probably his strongest point
is that he investigates the Prophecies of Nostradamus in the context
of the time when they were composed. His translation of the quatrains
is based on an impartial analysis of 16-century-related materials and
strict observance of the available historical sources.
Alexey Penzensky, prominent Russian Nostradamus scholar

An excellent edition of Nostradamus's Prophecies based on the original
editions (Lyon: 1555, 1557 and 1568) with their translations, and
especially its research into the textual and iconographic sources
(including the famous Mirabilis Liber). This new opus of Peter
Lemesurier will be just as helpful to the researcher as it will
intrigue the newcomer and interest him in the universe of the
Provençal prophet.
Dr Patrice Guinard, Director, Centre Universitaire de Recherche en
Astrologie (CURA)

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