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User: "Cuan"
Date: 13 Oct 2004 09:24:15 AM
Object: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation?
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:25:39 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:27:02 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <ZvydnTdCU6gJRPbcRVn-pw@locallink.net>, " John F Lemke"

<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:

Hmmmmmm, nuclear technology known and tagged by inspectors in Iraq after

the

first Gulf War disappearing from Iraq?

Is this another example of Bush Administration incompetence that points

to

further nuclear proliferation and the spreading of WMD thru the volatile
Middle East? Wouldn't this be counter to the foreign policy of the Bush
Administration?


I would think that when Bush had the military guard the oil fields

instead of

the nuclear facilities that people would have figured out where Bush's
priorities were. Avoiding "nukular" proliferation in the Middle East was
obviously not as high a priority as Iraqi oil to the Bush administration.

After

all, actions speak louder than words.


I think he neglected them on purpose. :-)

"Nothing like a nuclear war to heat things up. These conventional
ones are just so booooring, eh *****? With any luck, Syria or bin
Laden or someone might pick up the last remaining pieces they need in
time to attack us before the elections! Then we can declare martial
law and suspend the constitution, and then blow them dang Moslem's to
Nirvana come!"



War as a tool to establish dominance. Sure did the trick in WWII when the
European and Asian powers were decimated and the US became the top dog.

Very very true.
.

User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 13 Oct 2004 09:38:29 AM
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:25:39 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message

"Nothing like a nuclear war to heat things up. These conventional
ones are just so booooring, eh *****? With any luck, Syria or bin
Laden or someone might pick up the last remaining pieces they need in
time to attack us before the elections! Then we can declare martial
law and suspend the constitution, and then blow them dang Moslem's to
Nirvana come!"



War as a tool to establish dominance. Sure did the trick in WWII when

the

European and Asian powers were decimated and the US became the top dog.


Very very true.

And nothing like a Cold War to drive the Soviets into bankruptcy and
establishing one capitalist superpower while the elite war merchants
increase their wealth and power. Woooohooooo!!!!!!!
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 14 Oct 2004 11:25:13 PM
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message news:<25WdnYrNxNuQovDcRVn-oQ@locallink.net>...

"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:25:39 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message


"Nothing like a nuclear war to heat things up. These conventional
ones are just so booooring, eh *****? With any luck, Syria or bin
Laden or someone might pick up the last remaining pieces they need in
time to attack us before the elections! Then we can declare martial
law and suspend the constitution, and then blow them dang Moslem's to
Nirvana come!"



War as a tool to establish dominance. Sure did the trick in WWII when

the

European and Asian powers were decimated and the US became the top dog.


Very very true.



And nothing like a Cold War to drive the Soviets into bankruptcy and
establishing one capitalist superpower while the elite war merchants
increase their wealth and power. Woooohooooo!!!!!!!

Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War on
our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.
.
User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 10:51:49 AM
(Steven Douglas) wrote in message news:<a2b35e99.0410142025.4bb4fb01@posting.google.com>...


Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War on
our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.

lol. I do not think Kennedy could even be elected today.
.

User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 02:11:06 AM
On 14 Oct 2004 21:25:13 -0700,
(Steven Douglas)
wrote:

" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message news:<25WdnYrNxNuQovDcRVn-oQ@locallink.net>...

"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:25:39 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message


"Nothing like a nuclear war to heat things up. These conventional
ones are just so booooring, eh *****? With any luck, Syria or bin
Laden or someone might pick up the last remaining pieces they need in
time to attack us before the elections! Then we can declare martial
law and suspend the constitution, and then blow them dang Moslem's to
Nirvana come!"



War as a tool to establish dominance. Sure did the trick in WWII when

the

European and Asian powers were decimated and the US became the top dog.


Very very true.



And nothing like a Cold War to drive the Soviets into bankruptcy and
establishing one capitalist superpower while the elite war merchants
increase their wealth and power. Woooohooooo!!!!!!!


Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War on
our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.

Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 06:51:16 AM
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On 14 Oct 2004 21:25:13 -0700,

(Steven Douglas)
wrote:

" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message

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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:25:39 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message


"Nothing like a nuclear war to heat things up. These conventional
ones are just so booooring, eh *****? With any luck, Syria or bin
Laden or someone might pick up the last remaining pieces they need

in

time to attack us before the elections! Then we can declare

martial

law and suspend the constitution, and then blow them dang Moslem's

to

Nirvana come!"



War as a tool to establish dominance. Sure did the trick in WWII

when

the

European and Asian powers were decimated and the US became the top

dog.


Very very true.



And nothing like a Cold War to drive the Soviets into bankruptcy and
establishing one capitalist superpower while the elite war merchants
increase their wealth and power. Woooohooooo!!!!!!!


Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War on
our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.

Very, very true. One ideology, two competing factions.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 05:56:14 PM
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message news:<9dednSVk-dpCJ_LcRVn-hQ@locallink.net>...

"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On 14 Oct 2004 21:25:13 -0700,

(Steven Douglas)
wrote:

Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War on
our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.



Very, very true. One ideology, two competing factions.

I actually agree with that statement. We are one nation, with two
major parties. But since you seem to dislike the one ideology, what
would be your alternative? Two competing ideolgies trying to coexist
in one nation?
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 16 Oct 2004 11:06:37 PM
"Steven Douglas" <
> wrote in message
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" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message

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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On 14 Oct 2004 21:25:13 -0700,

(Steven Douglas)
wrote:

Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War on
our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.



Very, very true. One ideology, two competing factions.


I actually agree with that statement. We are one nation, with two
major parties. But since you seem to dislike the one ideology, what
would be your alternative? Two competing ideolgies trying to coexist
in one nation?

Ah, a mighty, vital and peaceful democracy indeed.
There's another "ideology" coming to the fore and you may not be prepared
for it.
What parts of the Bible, what scriptures shape your world view, Steve?
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 16 Oct 2004 11:40:13 PM
" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message
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"Steven Douglas" <

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" John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote in message

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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On 14 Oct 2004 21:25:13 -0700,

(Steven

Douglas)

wrote:

Democratic President Harry S Truman was the father of the Cold War

on

our side. It's ironic that Democrats like FDR, Truman and Kennedy
would be called neocons by today's definition.


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.



Very, very true. One ideology, two competing factions.


I actually agree with that statement. We are one nation, with two
major parties. But since you seem to dislike the one ideology, what
would be your alternative? Two competing ideolgies trying to coexist
in one nation?


Ah, a mighty, vital and peaceful democracy indeed.

There's another "ideology" coming to the fore and you may not be prepared
for it.

What parts of the Bible, what scriptures shape your world view, Steve?

Never mind.
.




User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 05:52:06 PM
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.

I deal with it just fine (I've already gone on record here to say this
election won't affect my happiness one way or the other -- though I
believe some posters here won't be able to make that claim).
However -- assuming your theory is correct, why are you so concerned
about which of the two major candidates is elected? It seems to me the
result of the election shouldn't matter one way or the other to
someone who holds your belief (as you stated it above).
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 05:56:35 PM
"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message

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Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.


I deal with it just fine (I've already gone on record here to say this
election won't affect my happiness one way or the other -- though I
believe some posters here won't be able to make that claim).

However -- assuming your theory is correct, why are you so concerned
about which of the two major candidates is elected? It seems to me the
result of the election shouldn't matter one way or the other to
someone who holds your belief (as you stated it above).

Don't mean to speak for Cuan here, he does that right well enough himself.
Lesser of two evils. The end result will be the same in the long run.
Kerry sounds like he's far less likely to lose us in some other insane
adventure of intervention.
.

User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 18 Oct 2004 02:39:30 AM
On 15 Oct 2004 15:52:06 -0700,
(Steven Douglas)
wrote:

Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.


I deal with it just fine (I've already gone on record here to say this
election won't affect my happiness one way or the other -- though I
believe some posters here won't be able to make that claim).

However -- assuming your theory is correct, why are you so concerned
about which of the two major candidates is elected? It seems to me the
result of the election shouldn't matter one way or the other to
someone who holds your belief (as you stated it above).

That, my friend, is the enigma. In the short-term, it is Bush who is
the cause of something very troubling. This needs to be checked
first. This is what is being sold to the American public (and the
world, and myself). I don't have any optimism for John Kerry either,
apart from the fact that he is not bringing the world to the brink of
a third war for the time being. I reserve judgment for the future,
however.
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 16 Oct 2004 01:33:46 PM
Steven Douglas a écrit:

Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...

Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.



I deal with it just fine (I've already gone on record here to say this
election won't affect my happiness one way or the other -- though I
believe some posters here won't be able to make that claim).

However -- assuming your theory is correct, why are you so concerned
about which of the two major candidates is elected? It seems to me the
result of the election shouldn't matter one way or the other to
someone who holds your belief (as you stated it above).

LOL
J.
.
User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 18 Oct 2004 02:42:04 AM
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:33:46 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:



Steven Douglas a écrit:

Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...

Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.



I deal with it just fine (I've already gone on record here to say this
election won't affect my happiness one way or the other -- though I
believe some posters here won't be able to make that claim).

However -- assuming your theory is correct, why are you so concerned
about which of the two major candidates is elected? It seems to me the
result of the election shouldn't matter one way or the other to
someone who holds your belief (as you stated it above).


LOL

Pray tell. What did you find so humourous? Have you gone insane?
....nevermind. Forget I asked.
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 18 Oct 2004 07:06:02 PM
Cuan a écrit:

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 18:33:46 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:



Steven Douglas a écrit:


Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...


Partisan politics is simply there to keep the wool over your eyes,
sir. There's no difference. Two parties, one goal. Deal with it.



I deal with it just fine (I've already gone on record here to say this
election won't affect my happiness one way or the other -- though I
believe some posters here won't be able to make that claim).

However -- assuming your theory is correct, why are you so concerned
about which of the two major candidates is elected? It seems to me the
result of the election shouldn't matter one way or the other to
someone who holds your belief (as you stated it above).


LOL



Pray tell. What did you find so humourous? Have you gone insane?
...nevermind. Forget I asked.

You would need some integrity. BTW, speaking of integrity, you just
plonked me one post ago, and yet you are back into my posts?
This is another example why you can't get subtlety. You are too confused
by your own lies.
J.
.




User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 15 Oct 2004 10:49:36 AM
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...


sir.

;)
That's right you call him 'sir', you do not want to get anymore
enemies at this point in your life, eh terrorist *****? ;) How is
that asslicking of that terrorist ***** going *****? Pretty good I bet?
.
User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 18 Oct 2004 02:47:41 AM
On 15 Oct 2004 08:49:36 -0700,
(Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:

Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<rptum05ddbn4fbigu3pg0ocmvhgdb7v93d@4ax.com>...



sir.


;)

That's right you call him 'sir', you do not want to get anymore
enemies at this point in your life, eh terrorist *****? ;) How is
that asslicking of that terrorist ***** going *****? Pretty good I bet?

You will never catch me calling *you* 'sir', dweeb. At least Steve
can argue with rational statements, unlike Jean and yourself. I, at
least have some respect for the man and *his* opinions.
.




User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 14 Oct 2004 04:48:40 AM
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:38:29 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:25:39 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message


"Nothing like a nuclear war to heat things up. These conventional
ones are just so booooring, eh *****? With any luck, Syria or bin
Laden or someone might pick up the last remaining pieces they need in
time to attack us before the elections! Then we can declare martial
law and suspend the constitution, and then blow them dang Moslem's to
Nirvana come!"



War as a tool to establish dominance. Sure did the trick in WWII when

the

European and Asian powers were decimated and the US became the top dog.


Very very true.


And nothing like a Cold War to drive the Soviets into bankruptcy and
establishing one capitalist superpower while the elite war merchants
increase their wealth and power. Woooohooooo!!!!!!!

I don't think I've agreed this much with anybody in just one week
before. ;-)
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Foreign policy paradox: incompetence and proliferation? 14 Oct 2004 04:21:51 PM
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:38:29 -0400, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:

And nothing like a Cold War to drive the Soviets into bankruptcy and
establishing one capitalist superpower while the elite war merchants
increase their wealth and power. Woooohooooo!!!!!!!


I don't think I've agreed this much with anybody in just one week
before. ;-)

Hokey smokes on apn no less. Scary. Definitely means the end is near. :-)
.




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