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Date: 01 Aug 2007 11:44:28 PM
Object: Re: Hansen: Huge sea level rises are coming - unless we act now
Bridge collapses, airplane crashes, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods,
sickening wars in the Middle East instigated by Israel, & soon to come
rising sea levels & massive coastal inundations !
No matter how U slice it, Bonzo, this world iz basically FRICKED
beyond all repair.
yes siree yes indeedy deedy deedily do !
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
-----
On Aug 2, 12:39 pm, "Bonzo" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote:

And what about Carl Sagan? ... hee, hee, hee ...

By some startling coincidence, politically active scientists often produce

computer models that generate results amazingly concurrent with the scientists'

political agenda. Dr. Carl Sagan did it. In the early 80s, Sagan (who was deeply

involved in the peace movement) produced the (Turco-Toon-Ackerman-Pollack-Sagan

(TTAPS) model that predicted a nuclear war would raise enough dust to blot out

the sun and bring on a "nuclear winter". Nuclear Winter! Wow! The media ran with

it, and you still hear the phrase used today. However, the media somehow failed

to report on critics of the TTAPS model, of which there were many.

For example, Russell Seitz, Harvard Center for International Affairs, viewed the

TTAPS model as worthless, revealing that, to achieve the results Sagan wanted,

TTAPS had ignored factors such as the effects of day and night, clouds, rain,

the continents, and the oceans. And George Rathjens of MIT dismissed TTAPS as,

"... the worst example of the misrepresentation of science in my memory."

Later, when the Soviet Union collapsed, looking for a new home, Sagan - as did

many others of his ilk - threw in with the eco-gang, where, during Desert Storm,

he raced from TV network to network, predicting that smoke from the oil well

fires would alter the climate enough to cause famine in India. Gee! I wonder how

that prophesy panned out.

Besides Sagan, we have other eco-quack scientists, fellows like the oft-quoted

Dr. Steven Schneider, who has thumped the doomsday drum for decades, and who has

this novel approach to scientific integrity:

"... scientists should consider stretching the truth to get some broad-based

support, to capture the public's imagination. That, of course, entails getting

loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make

simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might

have. ... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being

effective and being honest."

Or one might cite Dr. Paul Ehrlich, the Grand Old Man of Eco-quackery, for forty

years a most prominent doomsday campaigner, who has battled ferociously to

promote global warming, making an alarming case for the immanent incineration of

planet Earth. However, since the early Sixties, with equal conviction, Ehrlich

has also prophesied:

1.. The start of World War III on October 13, 1979.

2.. A new ice age. (More on the "ice age", later.)

3.. Massive starvation in India by the early 70s.

4.. Massive worldwide starvation by the 80s.

5.. Massive shortages of fuel and industrial raw materials by the 90s.

6.. The reduction of the population of the United States to 22.5 million by

1999 because of famine and global warming.

Which prompts one to request from his disciples: please point out the difference

between your Dr. Ehrlich and The Man From Planet Crackpot.
--

Regards

Bonzo

"I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process that I
view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scientifically
unsound". Hurricane Expert Chris Landsea ( He resigned from the IPCC in 2005)

.

User: ""

Title: Re: Hansen: Huge sea level rises are coming - unless we act now 02 Aug 2007 12:00:06 AM
On Aug 2, 2:44 pm, " .=B7:*=A8=A8*:=B7.=B7:*=A8=A8*:=B7. UNCLE WALLY, YO=
UR FRIENDLY
NEIGHBORHOOD DOOMSDAY PROPHET & MOST EXCELLENT PARTY DUDE
EXTRAORDINAIRE=99 .=B7:*=A8=A8*:=B7. " <sgdecember2...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Bridge collapses, airplane crashes, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods,
sickening wars in the Middle East instigated by Israel, & soon to come
rising sea levels & massive coastal inundations !

No matter how U slice it, Bonzo, this world iz basically FRICKED
beyond all repair.

yes siree yes indeedy deedy deedily do !

HOOROO

UNCLE WALLY

-----

On Aug 2, 12:39 pm, "Bonzo" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote:



And what about Carl Sagan? ... hee, hee, hee ...


By some startling coincidence, politically active scientists often prod=

uce


computer models that generate results amazingly concurrent with the sci=

entists'


political agenda. Dr. Carl Sagan did it. In the early 80s, Sagan (who w=

as deeply


involved in the peace movement) produced the (Turco-Toon-Ackerman-Polla=

ck-Sagan


(TTAPS) model that predicted a nuclear war would raise enough dust to b=

lot out


the sun and bring on a "nuclear winter". Nuclear Winter! Wow! The media=

ran with


it, and you still hear the phrase used today. However, the media someho=

w failed


to report on critics of the TTAPS model, of which there were many.


For example, Russell Seitz, Harvard Center for International Affairs, v=

iewed the


TTAPS model as worthless, revealing that, to achieve the results Sagan =

wanted,


TTAPS had ignored factors such as the effects of day and night, clouds,=

rain,


the continents, and the oceans. And George Rathjens of MIT dismissed TT=

APS as,


"... the worst example of the misrepresentation of science in my memory=

.."


Later, when the Soviet Union collapsed, looking for a new home, Sagan -=

as did


many others of his ilk - threw in with the eco-gang, where, during Dese=

rt Storm,


he raced from TV network to network, predicting that smoke from the oil=

well


fires would alter the climate enough to cause famine in India. Gee! I w=

onder how


that prophesy panned out.


Besides Sagan, we have other eco-quack scientists, fellows like the oft=

-quoted


Dr. Steven Schneider, who has thumped the doomsday drum for decades, an=

d who has


this novel approach to scientific integrity:


"... scientists should consider stretching the truth to get some broa=

d-based


support, to capture the public's imagination. That, of course, entails =

getting


loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make


simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts =

we might


have. ... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between be=

ing


effective and being honest."


Or one might cite Dr. Paul Ehrlich, the Grand Old Man of Eco-quackery, =

for forty


years a most prominent doomsday campaigner, who has battled ferociously=

to


promote global warming, making an alarming case for the immanent incine=

ration of


planet Earth. However, since the early Sixties, with equal conviction, =

Ehrlich


has also prophesied:


1.. The start of World War III on October 13, 1979.


2.. A new ice age. (More on the "ice age", later.)


3.. Massive starvation in India by the early 70s.


4.. Massive worldwide starvation by the 80s.


5.. Massive shortages of fuel and industrial raw materials by the 90s.


6.. The reduction of the population of the United States to 22.5 mill=

ion by


1999 because of famine and global warming.


Which prompts one to request from his disciples: please point out the d=

ifference


between your Dr. Ehrlich and The Man From Planet Crackpot.
--


Regards


Bonzo


"I personally cannot in good faith continue to contribute to a process =

that I

view as both being motivated by pre-conceived agendas and being scienti=

fically

unsound". Hurricane Expert Chris Landsea ( He resigned from the IPCC in=

2005)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -

Why don't both you Chimps take your drivel out of aus.tv ??
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