On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
I enjoyed my trip to Amsterdam - but I wouldn't want to live there.
Dani
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat. That is a total
lie. Almost all are slender. Some are fat, because some men do like fat
whores.
I enjoyed my trip to Amsterdam - but I wouldn't want to live there.
Hypocrite!
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want. What
are the girls in Amsterdam seeing? Half naked women in windows all
over the place? If you had a daughter - would you want to raise her
around that? Would you want her to think that women are simply
playthings for men - and utterly disgracing themselves is the norm?
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
Not only *one* fat *****.
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat.
I said fat *and* OR ugly. One can be ugly without being fat.
There's a difference between the three words I used: "fat", "ugly",
and "obese".
That is a total
lie.
Not from what I saw - and I'm not the only one who has said it.
Chris (WH) (who has travelled all over) said the same thing here in
this group when we talked about it after my vacation.
Here:
"I always try to look in the other direction too whilst in the red
light district of A'dam but I find that very difficult. Did you notice
that most of the women in the windows are fat?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=a666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bgroup:alt.prophecies.nostradamus%2Bauthor:bollogs%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3Da666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D1
Almost all are slender.
Heh.
Some are fat, because some men do like fat
whores.
....send 'em over to Amsterdam - they'll be in Heaven!
I enjoyed my trip to Amsterdam - but I wouldn't want to live there.
Hypocrite!
Ahhhh.. I also enjoyed my trip Jamaica but wouldn't want to live
there. America is my home.
Dani
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16 Oct 2004 07:59:51 PM |
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want. What
are the girls in Amsterdam seeing? Half naked women in windows all
over the place? If you had a daughter - would you want to raise her
around that? Would you want her to think that women are simply
playthings for men - and utterly disgracing themselves is the norm?
That is not for you to judge. When a woman wants to make a living by
working as a ***** in the red lights district and you claim to be a
nation of freedom then such should be allowed. There is prostitution
in all kinds and shapes and forms. Look at TV programs like the
Bachelor where 20 women fight for the wealth of a rich guy. No doubt
you are against pornography too? I think there is more prostitution in
the USA anyway, it just is not allowed there. There is one good thing
about prostitution and that is that it keeps some potential rapers from
actually raping women by going to visit a *****.
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
Not only *one* fat *****.
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat.
I said fat *and* OR ugly. One can be ugly without being fat.
There's a difference between the three words I used: "fat", "ugly",
and "obese".
That is a total
lie.
Not from what I saw - and I'm not the only one who has said it.
Chris (WH) (who has travelled all over) said the same thing here in
this group when we talked about it after my vacation.
Here:
"I always try to look in the other direction too whilst in the red
light district of A'dam but I find that very difficult. Did you notice
that most of the women in the windows are fat?"
I really wonder what streets you walked through. Why on Earth
is he/she visiting the red lights districts if he/she doesn't want to
look at them? That is utter childish behaviour.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=a666e2c5.0408150508.73b206
34%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bgroup:alt.prophecies
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Almost all are slender.
Heh.
Some are fat, because some men do like fat
whores.
No, I really wonder what streets you actually walked through. I have
walked through the red lights districts of a substantial number of towns
in The Netherlands. There is always a good mix of "tastes", so you
see slender, chubby and fat whores. You see white whores, black
whores, latino, asian, eastern Europe etcetera. So that every man can
visit his "speciality".
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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17 Oct 2004 01:26:14 AM |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:59:51 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want. What
are the girls in Amsterdam seeing? Half naked women in windows all
over the place? If you had a daughter - would you want to raise her
around that? Would you want her to think that women are simply
playthings for men - and utterly disgracing themselves is the norm?
That is not for you to judge.
Oh! Now we're getting somewhere. We both agree that it is not right
to judge. What do you think you were doing when you assumed no
American here cared about Kenneth Bigley? You were judging without
facts to the contrary; putting us all in the same box as if we aren't
different individuals with different feelings and view points
pertaining to different issues. Implying that we're selfish arrogant
people who only care for our "own" kind.
You didn't answer my question as to whether you would want to raise
your daughter (if you have one) in that type of environment, btw.
When a woman wants to make a living by
working as a ***** in the red lights district and you claim to be a
nation of freedom then such should be allowed.
No - we are a nation that teaches the young from an early age how very
important education is so we don't have a society where a woman thinks
her only way of survival is to stand in a window and ***** herself.
We're encouraged early on that "the sky is the limit" - we can be and
do whatever we set our goals to...but it takes hard work. I bet you
there are whores in those windows that are intelligent; that could be
surgeons for Christ sake - but for some reason they feel demoralizing
themselves and disgracing themselves is the only way to get by.
It's sad.
There is prostitution
in all kinds and shapes and forms. Look at TV programs like the
Bachelor where 20 women fight for the wealth of a rich guy.
I'd say that falls under their shallowness and greed more than it does
"prostitution" .. although they are selling themselves out for money
rather than love...it's a far cry from standing half naked in windows
where little girls passing by must see it quite regularly. I don't
like the shallowness of those woman who fight for the rich guys in the
least. I'm a strong believer in women making it on their own; being
independant, and not putting themselves in a position to have to
*depend* on a man to survive. I'm not saying there is anything
wrong with housewives; but my message to them is: *please* have
something to fall back on if God forbid you find yourself on your own.
And not to get too graphic - but sucking strange *****, and letting
strang men inside you day after day is a lot more disgraceful than
those silly women who try to get the rich man because they are petty,
shallow gold-diggers.
No doubt
you are against pornography too?
I can't deny that I've watched a few of them in my time. But again: I
think the women *and* the men are disgraceful.
I think there is more prostitution in
the USA anyway, it just is not allowed there.
There is prostitution.. but it's women that are normally addicted to
drugs; they only do it to get the money to get their fix; and only do
it in slumville areas of the city late at night. It isn't advertised
smack in the middle of the day with women in windows;
hence little girls and teenagers aren't exposed to it as much and
don't get accustomed to seeing it as the norm.
There is one good thing
about prostitution and that is that it keeps some potential rapers from
actually raping women by going to visit a *****.
You could have a point there. But you can't tell me that rapes are
still not committed. And hey - whatever happened to just getting a
decent (clean, respectable) girlfriend?
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
Not only *one* fat *****.
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat.
I said fat *and* OR ugly. One can be ugly without being fat.
There's a difference between the three words I used: "fat", "ugly",
and "obese".
That is a total
lie.
Not from what I saw - and I'm not the only one who has said it.
Chris (WH) (who has travelled all over) said the same thing here in
this group when we talked about it after my vacation.
Here:
"I always try to look in the other direction too whilst in the red
light district of A'dam but I find that very difficult. Did you notice
that most of the women in the windows are fat?"
I really wonder what streets you walked through. Why on Earth
is he/she visiting the red lights districts if he/she doesn't want to
look at them? That is utter childish behaviour.
Chris is a man. He's travelled all over. I don't think he walked
down the streets with the intention of seeing the whores...his
destination may have just been on the way which would make it
necessary to walk by them.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=a666e2c5.0408150508.73b206
34%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bgroup:alt.prophecies
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Almost all are slender.
Heh.
Some are fat, because some men do like fat
whores.
No, I really wonder what streets you actually walked through.
Well I stayed at the renaissance Amsterdam hotel on kattengat st.
Right in the singel red light district.. a two minute walk from
central station. I also went to De Burgs on Oudezijds Achterburgwal
street which is in the heart of the red light district. So I saw a lot
of 'em. I didn't know any better which streets to walk through; it
was the first time I was in Amsterdam.
I have
walked through the red lights districts of a substantial number of towns
in The Netherlands. There is always a good mix of "tastes", so you
see slender, chubby and fat whores. You see white whores, black
whores, latino, asian, eastern Europe etcetera. So that every man can
visit his "speciality".
To each his own. But I find it morally repulsive.. and I feel bad for
them if they think that's the only way they can make it in the world.
And I pray to God the young girls strive high and *never* think that's
the norm because they witness it all the time as if it's acceptable.
Dani
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17 Oct 2004 08:24:28 PM |
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:59:51 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
<snipped for convienience>
Three points:
If you claim to believe in freedom for all you have no right to determine
what a woman wants to do with her body. A state or government has
no autonomy about that.
When you legalize prostitution women are in some way protected, when
they wish to file a complaint at the local authorities they don't have to
fear of being arrested.
To even consider bringing the subject of Kenneth Bigley's beheading
into this debate shows your very bad taste. It's apples and oranges as
well.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:24:28 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:59:51 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
<snipped for the simple fact that she's right and there's no way to refute it>
Three points:
If you claim to believe in freedom for all you have no right to determine
what a woman wants to do with her body.
Right. But what a woman does with her body should not be displayed
and advertised in *broad daylight* for young impressionable girls and
teenagers to see day after day - night after night with multitudes of
these women all around. What message does that send? Not only to the
girls, but to the boys as well.
A state or government has
no autonomy about that.
When you legalize prostitution women are in some way protected,
....protected until one of their Johns (clients) is having a "bad" day
and decides to beat the living ***** outta her, or worse - kill her.
when
they wish to file a complaint at the local authorities they don't have to
fear of being arrested.
Oh no no.. but they do daily have to live with the fear of possibly
contracting: AIDS, Chlamydia, Crabs, Gonorrhea, Herpes, Chancroid,
PID etc.. etc.. And I know your response will be "condoms" .. but
condoms *can be* infallible...especially given the amount of customers
they must have on their day after day and night after night escapades.
To even consider bringing the subject of Kenneth Bigley's beheading
into this debate shows your very bad taste. It's apples and oranges as
well.
Have you ever heard of irony? Couldn't you tell I was being sardonic?
Showing you your hypocricy for judging us - then turning around and
telling me I have no right to judge? The contradiction?
You wrote:
"That is not for you to judge."
And I responded:
"Oh! Now we're getting somewhere. We both agree that it is not right
to judge. What do you think you were doing when you assumed no
American here cared about Kenneth Bigley? You were judging without
facts to the contrary; putting us all in the same box as if we aren't
different individuals with different feelings and view points
pertaining to different issues. Implying that we're selfish arrogant
people who only care for our "own" kind."
And believe me, sweetie, the fact that you USED Kenneth Bigley's death
(under the guise of "remorse") as a tool against Americans shows the
very poorest taste I've yet to see on this group. And that's saying
something.
Dani
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18 Oct 2004 11:34:48 AM |
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:24:28 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:59:51 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
<snipped for the simple fact that she's right and there's no way to
refute it>
I usually snip articles when they become too long or when in other case
there was topposting involved like Jean Guernon does regularly. I also
snip articles when I don't have time or the will to reply to further things
mentioned in a post. All done for convienience and has nothing to do with
the fact whether something can be refuted or not. That is just wishful
thinking on your part. Further I sometimes snip articles when there is
no reaction to anything in the previous post.
Three points:
If you claim to believe in freedom for all you have no right to determine
what a woman wants to do with her body.
Right. But what a woman does with her body should not be displayed
and advertised in *broad daylight* for young impressionable girls and
teenagers to see day after day - night after night with multitudes of
these women all around. What message does that send? Not only to the
girls, but to the boys as well.
So, you are in favour of a legalization of prostitution in the USA? I think
it's
better to inform older children that prostitution exists. You could be right
if
by this exposing there would be more Dutch girls interested in becoming a
*****. Research shows that such is not the case. The number of whores
in most Dutch cities are not increasing by this exposing. What message that
sends to everyone? That in a real free society the government has no
autonomy
over your body in any shape or form. That you really live in a free society.
And that such is point demonstrated by the fact that you can even choose
to use your body to earn money to make a living if that is what you wish.
Prostitution is of all eras, get used to it. And don't be a hypocrite.
A state or government has
no autonomy about that.
When you legalize prostitution women are in some way protected,
...protected until one of their Johns (clients) is having a "bad" day
and decides to beat the living ***** outta her, or worse - kill her.
Which sooner happens when prostitution is not legal and has to be done
in remote areas out of the broad daylight. And when she is beaten up by a
bloke she can freely without fear file a complaint at the local authorities
who
then can chase the abuser. Prostitutes in The Netherlands have full
protection
from the goverment. A much better situation than in the USA.
when
they wish to file a complaint at the local authorities they don't have to
fear of being arrested.
Oh no no.. but they do daily have to live with the fear of possibly
contracting: AIDS, Chlamydia, Crabs, Gonorrhea, Herpes, Chancroid,
PID etc.. etc.. And I know your response will be "condoms" .. but
condoms *can be* infallible...especially given the amount of customers
they must have on their day after day and night after night escapades.
There is hardly any STD in the red lights districts in the cities of The
Netherlands. Almost all whores use condoms. Whores are better of
with full health insurances financed by the government. Drugs-addicts
can get clean needles at the doctor for their injections. Clean needles
prevent spreading of those diseases. So, again legalizations of
prostitution is not only better for the whores. It is also a way of
preventing
of (spreading) diseases. Which cannot be done if everything must be hidden
in dark (remote) areas and not in the broad daylight. I am totally convinced
that The Netherlands has a much more humane policy regarding prostitution
than the USA has. Your recipe is don't do it or be an outlaw. Your recipe
is a clear program for tragedies.
<snip>
No further comments which again does not prove your wishful
thinking.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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SuZanne is popping in momentarily to say:
My God! Everybody I have ever known who is a tourist in Amsterdam visits
the "Red Light District"!
It's something most of us have never seen and you just have to see it to
believe it.
Nothing bad about it at all....perfectly legal too! ;)
SuZanne
Dani wrote:
Chris is a man. He's travelled all over. I
don't think he walked down the streets
with the intention of seeing the
whores...his destination may have just
been on the way which would make it
necessary to walk by them.
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17 Oct 2004 12:43:02 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:59:39 -0400, (Su Zanadu)
wrote:
SuZanne is popping in momentarily to say:
My God! Everybody I have ever known who is a tourist in Amsterdam visits
the "Red Light District"!
It's something most of us have never seen and you just have to see it to
believe it.
How very true. Can you imagine my shock when I looked over and saw a
big fat lady standing there in her bra and panties? LOL!
Nothing bad about it at all....perfectly legal too! ;)
Barbarossa was talking about how much more "freedoms" there are in the
Netherlands than in America (which is how the disussion about
Amsterdam came up.) Put it this way - it's great for a visit, but you
wouldn't want to live there.
And you have a young daughter so...you would have to blind fold her
walking down those streets! (not literally but you get my point)
Dani
SuZanne
Dani wrote:
Chris is a man. He's travelled all over. I
don't think he walked down the streets
with the intention of seeing the
whores...his destination may have just
been on the way which would make it
necessary to walk by them.
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18 Oct 2004 06:33:22 AM |
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Dani wrote:
SuZanne wrote:
It's something most of us have never
seen and you just have to see it to
believe it.
How very true. Can you imagine my
shock when I looked over and saw a big
fat lady standing there in her bra and
panties? LOL!
Probably as wide-eyed as I was my first visit to NYC and for the first
time saw hookers in the street.
<culture shock and awe>
I was like OMG! :-O
*****'S-GALORE!!!
and started snapping away with my camera. They didn't like that at all!
;)
Nothing bad about it at all....perfectly
legal too! ;)
Barbarossa was talking about how much
more "freedoms" there are in the
Netherlands than in America (which is
how the disussion about Amsterdam
came up.) Put it this way - it's great for
a visit, but you wouldn't want to live
there.
To each his own....
I think it is more fun to sneak a joint up in the attic and feel like
you are *really* getting away with something. ;)
And you have a young daughter so...you
would have to blind fold her walking
down those streets! (not literally but you
get my point)
LOL! Reminds me of something that happened the other day.
We were at SUPER WALLY'S and had just come face to face with a muslim
couple...the woman in her traditional garb from head to toe and my
daughter said as loud as could be (as 9 year olds will do)
"Mom!...they're Jewish!"
:-O
Can you imagine my horror as I cupped my hand over her mouth and whisked
her around the corner out of sight to explain her error?
There is *never* a dull moment with a 9 year old girl...I only hope I
survive these years! :)
Dani
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17 Oct 2004 12:29:10 AM |
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Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bc93n0p6thqhulfjphouqthqv44hat60ck@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c230n051n9nofmi54pta3hnnjs1gbs56p5@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want.
Even fat prostitutes?
Sorry, I tried, honest, but I really really really couldn't help it. =)
S~
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17 Oct 2004 01:39:35 AM |
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Shasta wrote:
Dani wrote:
In America, young girls/teenagers aim
high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors,
scientists etc.. we were/are told that
we can do and be whatever we want.
Even fat prostitutes?
Sure you can!
If you eat a steady diet of Belgium waffles and chocolates and move to
Amsterdam where the women are ALWAYS purdy if you've just fallen out of
a hash den.
(tw will kick my butt for this one come Monday morning.) ;)
Sorry, I tried, honest, but I really really
really couldn't help it. =)
I know...believe me I KNOW! ;)
It's so hard sometimes and then there are NO RECOVERING WISE-AZZ SUPPORT
GROUPS!
SuZanne
S~
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18 Oct 2004 04:25:16 AM |
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"Su Zanadu" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22696-417213A7-1@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net...
Shasta wrote:
Dani wrote:
In America, young girls/teenagers aim
high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors,
scientists etc.. we were/are told that
we can do and be whatever we want.
Even fat prostitutes?
Sure you can!
If you eat a steady diet of Belgium waffles and chocolates and move to
Amsterdam where the women are ALWAYS purdy if you've just fallen out of
a hash den.
(tw will kick my butt for this one come Monday morning.) ;)
Whyssat? ;-)
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17 Oct 2004 01:55:38 AM |
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On 16 Oct 2004 22:29:10 -0700, (Anon Ymous)
wrote:
Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bc93n0p6thqhulfjphouqthqv44hat60ck@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c230n051n9nofmi54pta3hnnjs1gbs56p5@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want.
Even fat prostitutes?
Nope. But we sure can try and *help* the fat prostitutes when we
become Psychologists .. :)
Sorry, I tried, honest, but I really really really couldn't help it. =)
Yer a funny bunny, Shasta - good to see you back.
Dani
S~
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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17 Oct 2004 01:18:09 PM |
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Dani a écrit:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c230n051n9nofmi54pta3hnnjs1gbs56p5@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want. What
are the girls in Amsterdam seeing? Half naked women in windows all
over the place? If you had a daughter - would you want to raise her
around that? Would you want her to think that women are simply
playthings for men - and utterly disgracing themselves is the norm?
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
Not only *one* fat *****.
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat.
I said fat *and* OR ugly. One can be ugly without being fat.
There's a difference between the three words I used: "fat", "ugly",
and "obese".
That is a total
lie.
Not from what I saw - and I'm not the only one who has said it.
Chris (WH) (who has travelled all over) said the same thing here in
this group when we talked about it after my vacation.
Here:
"I always try to look in the other direction too whilst in the red
light district of A'dam but I find that very difficult. Did you notice
that most of the women in the windows are fat?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=a666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bgroup:alt.prophecies.nostradamus%2Bauthor:bollogs%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3Da666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D1
Almost all are slender.
Heh.
Maybe he is not talking about the whores? I know that one of my first
girl friends, my first love in fact, was very slender. She was a 14
years old dutch, the daughter of the ambassador of Holland/Netherlands
(what is the difference? In French we say Hollande) in Ethiopia,
Dominique Putmand Cramer, and she was a dream girl. The most slender of
girls then. Very very slender. And very very beautiful. And this is the
only Dutch girl I knew. So I tend to think that maybe what they sell to
tourism is their trash...? ;-)
J.
Some are fat, because some men do like fat
whores.
...send 'em over to Amsterdam - they'll be in Heaven!
I enjoyed my trip to Amsterdam - but I wouldn't want to live there.
Hypocrite!
Ahhhh.. I also enjoyed my trip Jamaica but wouldn't want to live
there. America is my home.
Dani
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17 Oct 2004 11:35:58 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<BHycd.14955$cr4.14816@edtnps84>...
Dani a écrit:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c230n051n9nofmi54pta3hnnjs1gbs56p5@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want. What
are the girls in Amsterdam seeing? Half naked women in windows all
over the place? If you had a daughter - would you want to raise her
around that? Would you want her to think that women are simply
playthings for men - and utterly disgracing themselves is the norm?
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
Not only *one* fat *****.
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat.
I said fat *and* OR ugly. One can be ugly without being fat.
There's a difference between the three words I used: "fat", "ugly",
and "obese".
That is a total
lie.
Not from what I saw - and I'm not the only one who has said it.
Chris (WH) (who has travelled all over) said the same thing here in
this group when we talked about it after my vacation.
Here:
"I always try to look in the other direction too whilst in the red
light district of A'dam but I find that very difficult. Did you notice
that most of the women in the windows are fat?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=a666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bgroup:alt.prophecies.nostradamus%2Bauthor:bollogs%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3Da666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D1
Almost all are slender.
Heh.
Maybe he is not talking about the whores? I know that one of my first
girl friends, my first love in fact, was very slender. She was a 14
years old dutch, the daughter of the ambassador of Holland/Netherlands
(what is the difference? In French we say Hollande) in Ethiopia,
Dominique Putmand Cramer, and she was a dream girl. The most slender of
girls then. Very very slender. And very very beautiful. And this is the
only Dutch girl I knew. So I tend to think that maybe what they sell to
tourism is their trash...? ;-)
J.
Every human being is a star. (quoted from some dude)
S~
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20 Oct 2004 12:05:25 AM |
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Anon Ymous a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<BHycd.14955$cr4.14816@edtnps84>...
Dani a écrit:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:16:35 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c230n051n9nofmi54pta3hnnjs1gbs56p5@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
Whether you like what The Netherlands can offer you or not is
not relevant. The Netherlands are a much more free nation than
the USA which is point demonstrated by the facts.
I said when I returned from Amsterdam that the tolerance and freedoms
were what I liked there. But the "party" has to end sometime. Law
and order is required in a productive society. In America, young
girls/teenagers aim high.. strive to be lawyers, doctors, scientists
etc.. we were/are told that we can do and be whatever we want. What
are the girls in Amsterdam seeing? Half naked women in windows all
over the place? If you had a daughter - would you want to raise her
around that? Would you want her to think that women are simply
playthings for men - and utterly disgracing themselves is the norm?
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Idem dito.
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
Totally rubbish and nonsense, you claim to have seen one fat ***** and
Not only *one* fat *****.
then you conclude that all whores in Amsterdam are fat.
I said fat *and* OR ugly. One can be ugly without being fat.
There's a difference between the three words I used: "fat", "ugly",
and "obese".
That is a total
lie.
Not from what I saw - and I'm not the only one who has said it.
Chris (WH) (who has travelled all over) said the same thing here in
this group when we talked about it after my vacation.
Here:
"I always try to look in the other direction too whilst in the red
light district of A'dam but I find that very difficult. Did you notice
that most of the women in the windows are fat?"
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=a666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bgroup:alt.prophecies.nostradamus%2Bauthor:bollogs%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3Da666e2c5.0408150508.73b20634%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D1
Almost all are slender.
Heh.
Maybe he is not talking about the whores? I know that one of my first
girl friends, my first love in fact, was very slender. She was a 14
years old dutch, the daughter of the ambassador of Holland/Netherlands
(what is the difference? In French we say Hollande) in Ethiopia,
Dominique Putmand Cramer, and she was a dream girl. The most slender of
girls then. Very very slender. And very very beautiful. And this is the
only Dutch girl I knew. So I tend to think that maybe what they sell to
tourism is their trash...? ;-)
J.
Every human being is a star. (quoted from some dude)
S~
Sure, in the inside. But we are not discussing personalities, here, we
are talking about the (shallowness of the) sex industry.
J.
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15 Oct 2004 01:24:55 PM |
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Dani a écrit:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
I enjoyed my trip to Amsterdam - but I wouldn't want to live there.
Dani
Hehe. Gee, Amsterdam sounds depressing. LOL
J.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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15 Oct 2004 08:17:26 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:XBUbd.23901$qU.2586@clgrps13...
Dani a écrit:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:18:30 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
USA: freedom? Come on. The Netherlands has freedoms people in
the USA can only dream of. ;-)
What? People smoking weed all over the place in public? Kids
inhaling that ***** all the time? (when I was there, I smelt it
everytime I walked around - the kids obviously must smell it as well..
not to mention seeing it all the time.)
And it wasn't only pot; I was approached about 5 different times and
asked if I wanted some coke, mushrooms and opiates. And legal
prostitution? They're *everywhere* - what message does that send to
the little girls?
Oh and those prostitutes are all fat and or ugly! LOL! I literally
saw obese women in those windows in Amsterdam. I'm walking down the
street - and all of a sudden I look over and there is this huge woman
standing there in her bra and panties (oh it was a sight to see I'm
tellin' ya) Those must be some *desperate* men! The best-looking
***** I saw was (get this)...a man! He was a transvestite.
I enjoyed my trip to Amsterdam - but I wouldn't want to live there.
Dani
Hehe. Gee, Amsterdam sounds depressing. LOL
Since you like dope I would not jump to such a conclusion.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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16 Oct 2004 12:49:13 AM |
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Hey you two! Quit demeaning those whores...would you?
;)
SuZanne
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16 Oct 2004 08:22:51 PM |
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They get no respect .... no respect I tell ya!
"Su Zanadu" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9046-4170B659-52@storefull-3215.bay.webtv.net...
Hey you two! Quit demeaning those whores...would you?
;)
SuZanne
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16 Oct 2004 09:51:44 PM |
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marvin@galaxy.com
(Marvin=A0The=A0Paranoid=A0Android) wrote:
They get no respect .... no respect I tell
ya!
*LOLololol*
Have a beer on me, Marv! ;)
SuZanne
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