I guess I left the trolls of alt.slack speechless. I want to hear some
spew from life's losers to give me that little boast of self esteem.

I guess I left the trolls of alt.slack speechless. I want to hear some
spew from life's losers to give me that little boast of self esteem.

In article <8932-410016E8-183@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net>,
truthpilot@webtv.net says...

desdinova,

You ask us to explain our beliefs. It really is pointless to throw seeds
on the parched Earth of these newsgroups but then again some day the
rain wil come, and who knows, maybe a seed or two will sprout.


Science has proven that the physical world is an illusion. There is no
SOLID matter. There is more empty space than particles that could be
called matter. Even these protons and neutrons are not solid and can be
divided. It is all energy assuming forms under the guidance of
something.

Well, this isn't a great start. You clearly don't understand modern
physics. Just because the quantum domain does not follow your
preconceived notions does not mean "there is no solid matter". It means
that matter/energy is a more complex phenomena than was once thought.

And the "guidance" idea. Where did that come from? You have some
justification for introducing it, other than needing to slip God in
somewhere early so you can pull him out later? That's called "begging
the question" and invalidated any argument.

Sometimes this guidance is in the form of a human hand whch
is itself a matter phantom. SpaceTime is the illusion created for a
purpose we can not fathom.

And the "created for a purpose" idea. Where did that come from? You
have some justification for introducing it, other than needing to slip a
created universe in somewhere early so you can pull a creator out later?
That's called "begging the question" and invalidated any argument.

Quantum Physics opens up the possibility of
parallel worlds(mutiverse) or in other words, completely valid spacetime
universes other than the one we appear to be in.

Mathematically, perhaps. But since we don't have a complete model that
explains our observable universe yet, it's pointless to speculate based
on extrapolations of our current conflicting and incomplete models.

I don't want to give away too many specifics of my beliefs in this
forum as a weasel like ERIC V. GILL will find some way to charge people
$30 for it.

I think it more likely that you can't put you beliefs in a coherent form
that will withstand criticism. Frankly, you've botched the job so far.

Let me say that those who seek power are those that feel powerless.

Or those who have power and want to keep it.

Those who seek to control are the ones who feel out of control.

Or those who are in control and want to maintain control.

Those who seek notice are the ones that feel unnoticed.

Everyone wants his 15 minutes, I guess. But this is pointless. You are
criticizing motivation rather than arguments people. I don't give a
rat's ***** if Stephen Hawking is advancing his cosmological models
because he needs an outlet for his suppressed sexuality or to "feel
noticed". Is he right? That's the only important question.

The physical reality
we are in is based upon dichotomy. In quantum physics when a particle

split into two connected particles(I really have a hard time explaining
how a particle can be two but still be one) these connected particles
will be polar opposittes.

What? This is crap. Photons (no charge, no magnetic moment) can be
entangled. You have trouble explaining it because you don't understand
it.

Now we can take this quantum example and apply it to human social
interactions. If your Dad is a religious Zealot then there is a good
chance you will become an Atheist Zealot.

Hip waders aren't enough! The *****'s too deep! I need my mask and
snorkel. You don't understand quantum electrodynamics. You take a
flawed reading of a theory you don't understand, and you extrapolate it
into a realm it does not apply, and your result is counter to every
survey and study, anecdote and casual observation ever made about how
humans acquire religious beliefs. There can be no doubt that the vast
majority of humans follow the religious teachings of their parents.

I guess what you want to know is how GOD does and doesn't exist at the
same time. It is the limitations of the spacetime illusion you are
living that makes this sound impossible.

God exists in your frightened little mind, and comforts you like a
stuffed rabbit comforts a small child. God does not exist in the real
universe. That is how God exists and doesn't exist at the same time.

To say that there is no God is just as valid and false as saying that
there is a GOD.

One half-right statement in your entire post, and you saved it for the
end. Next time put it at the top, and label it so I don't have to read
the entire post.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:35:04 -0400 in episode
<8932-410016E8-183@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net> we saw our hero
truthpilot@webtv.net (Whatup Beeetch):

Science has proven that the physical world is an illusion.

Except it hasn't of course...