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Date: 31 Mar 2004 09:18:02 PM
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"cesar" wrote;

Go easy with the Booze, Dan.


cesar


I'm just getting started, Elijah. Just promise me you'll do

some

serious Palestinian *****-kicking in Jerusalem, starting off

at

the

Temple Mount, okay?


"Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord." The only *****-kicking is

going

to

be

done by Him and Him alone, Dan. God does not need nor want

your

help.

You

are not the Creator, nor are you like the gods, unless you are

a

demon.


The Muslims in the Middle East are the sacrificial Lamb of

Christ.

That

means the Antichrist is going to be nuking them to Kingdom

Come.

Those

in

North America will be persecuted as terrorists.

Ours is to treat all as our brethren and to save the wayward

souls

by

showing them the True Christian Path: That being Brotherhood,

Peace

and

Love.

You must kill that demon inside you. Stop serving spirits to

that

evil

spirit.

cesar


Sounds like typical Christian arrogance to me. The "Christian

path"

is

the

only true path?

Christian path, meaning what Jesus preached. Buddha preached the

same

thing. I'm not sure what Mohammed preached as there seems to be

some

confusion and disagreement among their clerics and same goes for

the

Evangelical Crusaders and the Orthodox Jews.

Good versus Evil and Hamurabi's Eye for an Eye Doctrine are

recipes

for

Armageddon. Is that the 'other' Path?

cesar


Jesus wasn't a Christian nor did he wish to be revered as a deity.


That is true.

He was just a dude preaching proper morality (or at least, his view

on

the

subject). Peace and love? Then I guess many of the so called

hippie

generation circa late 1960's are the sons and daughters of God too?


Hardly. They were resisting the draft back then. Where are those

voices

today? More outside of the U.S. than in the U.S.


And who's to say that Jesus wasn't reacting to the times and resisting

Roman

occupation and barbarism. Are you drawing a parallel here?


Interesting that you say that. The Romans were barbarians with their
crucifixes adorning the gates to the city as a warning to all would-be
miscreants and "freedom fighters" about Roman punishment. Yet, Jesus was
preaching to the Jews. He was their promised messiah, their saviour.
Saving from what? It wasn't the Romans because he didn't do that. The
Romans eventually ruined themselves. If you look at it from the context

of

what the Jews and their legacy would be doing at the end of the world,

then

the message Jesus brought them is clear. Love your neighbors. "Do not

place

stumbling blocks in the path of your brethren".

Was Jesus a Seer? How would he know the outcome of the Roman Empire.
Saying that he wasn't reacting to the times of the day because those times
were already occurring is incredulous. Events are always in reaction to
other events. Your eloquent and obfuscatious answer underlies my suspicion
that you have no more understanding of Jesus' motives than I do and are
simply engaging in speculation.
Where does it say that Jesus was the promised messiah to the Jews. Could it
have been that he was "preaching" to Jews because he was born a Jew and
living among them hence no other "race" to preach to (the didn't have 747's
back then).

I'm betting Gandhi is the next "Son of God" to be followed by Martin

Luther

King.

Well, these two are fine examples of achieving success without

violence.

What's happening today is not the same. How will society cope against
terrorism? Our collective response to evil has been fear. Fear is

the

opposite of Love. Evil is committed out of fear.


Really? I would say that Evil is committed out of Greed. What is there

to

fear, the unknown? We all fear the unknown to some degree yet most of

us

do

not commit evil


And what is greed if not the fear of not having enough for yourself? We
fear the unknown because we don't have Faith. If I know God was holding

my

hand, I would jump off the cliff with total confidence. But because I'm

not

sure, it becomes a leap of faith.

Engaging in a war of semantics doesn't make it so. If I decide to rob a
bank because I find it easier to make 100K in 6 hours than to do it in two
years working for someone, that does not imply fear. There is no fear of he
unknown, I simply am exercising greed in order to attain wealth in an
accelerated amount of time.

Mohammed was purportedly visited by angels while sitting in his cave

who

recited verse to him and was told to "spread the message of God".

No

doubt

he was either drunk or stoned at the time. My guess is he hit is

head

when

he was young and was just loony. Then again, it's as credible as

the

resurrection of Christ, Moses parting the Red Sea and all the other

fairy

tales one reads in the bible.


Whether divine in origin or not, fact is a billion people believe in

it

and

will respond to a threat against their faith.


Like the Muslim extremists? Some victory for religion and faith.


When their faith is threatened, it is not extremism for them to die
defending it. It is considered their sacred duty just as it is considered

a

Patriotic duty for every American to die defending their country. Whereas
cowardice in the U.S. military is punishable by death, cowardice in the
Muslim faith is considered by them to be punishable by eternal

condemnation

in Hell. The true Muslim really believes this as does the true Catholic.
Only an Antichrist thinks a religious war can be won and religious fervor
can be subdued.

Are you simply reciting mantra or quoting from Osama's bible? Exactly who's
faith is being threatened. Please document all instances of Catholics
murdering children and civilians within the last 4 decades. I can't think
of another method that indicates truer cowardice so your assertion is in
direct violation of what you claim to be Muslim faith. You are making
excuses for sin.

cesar

.

User: "cesar"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 31 Mar 2004 11:02:45 PM
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Was Jesus a Seer? How would he know the outcome of the Roman Empire.
Saying that he wasn't reacting to the times of the day because those times
were already occurring is incredulous. Events are always in reaction to
other events. Your eloquent and obfuscatious answer underlies my

suspicion

that you have no more understanding of Jesus' motives than I do and are
simply engaging in speculation.

Jesus was the Son of God who came in the flesh. Not only was he a 'seer',
he performed miracles to prove that he was the Messiah. There were plenty
of witnesses to this fact. His death on the cross with the plaque that read
INRI (Iesus Nazareth Rex Ibereiu, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews) was
the testament that his "crime" was to claim that he was the Messiah. The
Sanhedrin deemed that he was not because they only wanted the Romans out.
Then, they tried to eliminate all evidence that he ever existed and his
followers were tracked down and killed. But his presence was so awesome, we
count the years from his birth. You may call it speculation. Some Jews
ridicule Christians for worshipping a dead Jewish carpenter.
Indeed, Jesus never wanted to be worshipped. He came to teach; to lay down
a new law and a new covenant - a Covenant with the Father in Heaven,
breaking the one with the God of the Earth and did so with his Blood.
Because of the New Covenant, humans can now be resurrected in the Kingdom of
Heaven as opposed to being Reincarnated over and over on the Earth. That is
the meaning of the Salvation of our souls held under human bondage.
Now, in order for the Covenant to have effect, he had to return to Heaven to
be Anointed (to receive the mandate from God). There was a War in Heaven
between Michael and Satan. And of course Satan was kicked out and he is
here on earth. So is Christ. Now, the the choice is laid out before us.
Since we did not anoint Jesus when we had the chance, all the souls are up
for grabs. Hence the "mark". Whom do you choose to serve? The God of the
Earth, or the God of Heaven? If you choose to serve the God of Heaven, then
you must follow the Way of the Lord, which is Love and Compassion towards
your fellow man and especially towards your enemies. So FLASH BACK 2,000
years. For us, time is linear. For God, time is ever the present. So
Jesus delivered showed his WAY when he was here. That is the TICKET to
Heaven. The old way, the way of the God of the Earth is the way of "Good"
verses "Evil". Us against them. Problem with that is both sides claim to
be the good guys. So it is the way of Conflict and War and the Stronger one
will win. It is the Law of the Jungle. Now, since Christ has been
anointed, he now has the authority to Crush the forces of Satan without
violating the Cosmic Law. The forces of Satan are the Beast of the Sea and
the Beast of the Land: U.S. Military Power versus Terrorism. Both are the
tools of Satan.

Where does it say that Jesus was the promised messiah to the Jews. Could

it

have been that he was "preaching" to Jews because he was born a Jew and
living among them hence no other "race" to preach to (the didn't have

747's

back then).

You have to read the books of the prophets of the Old Testament. The Jews
were promised a Messiah but they believe that the Messiah was not Jesus and
that their Messiah is yet to come. Christians believe that it was Jesus and
that He will come back. Point is, what's the difference? Yes, Jesus was
the promised Messiah but NO he was not accepted, ipso facto, he was not the
Messiah, was he? So, when he comes back, does he come to the Jews? Why
should and why would he? Who comes? The Resurrected Jesus or the Warrior
Messiah, Michael? The Lamb or the Lion? I say both. Christ is already
here among us. He is Love and because he is a resurrected human, he does
not abandon us. Michael, on the other hand, is coming soon and he is not
Mr. Nice Guy Messiah. He is the Archangel, the Lord of Lords. He comes to
make war and to destroy. He is JUSTICE.

And what is greed if not the fear of not having enough for yourself? We
fear the unknown because we don't have Faith. If I know God was

holding

my

hand, I would jump off the cliff with total confidence. But because I'm

not

sure, it becomes a leap of faith.


Engaging in a war of semantics doesn't make it so. If I decide to rob a
bank because I find it easier to make 100K in 6 hours than to do it in two
years working for someone, that does not imply fear.

Yea, right. Have you ever been a bank robber? You telling me there is no
fear in holding up a bank? The robber is usually more scared and jittery
than the people they're robbing.

There is no fear of he
unknown, I simply am exercising greed in order to attain wealth in an
accelerated amount of time.

The moment you were born, you have fear. Fear is the primary instinct of
all creatures on the earth. So what you're saying is greed is the primary
motivator, not fear. I say, everyone fears something, usually death and
deprivation. But not everyone is greedy. Fear is universal and is human.
Greed is not.

When their faith is threatened, it is not extremism for them to die
defending it. It is considered their sacred duty just as it is

considered

a

Patriotic duty for every American to die defending their country.

Whereas

cowardice in the U.S. military is punishable by death, cowardice in the
Muslim faith is considered by them to be punishable by eternal

condemnation

in Hell. The true Muslim really believes this as does the true

Catholic.

Only an Antichrist thinks a religious war can be won and religious

fervor

can be subdued.


Are you simply reciting mantra or quoting from Osama's bible? Exactly

who's

faith is being threatened.

Have you heard of the five pillars of Islam? Look it up. Ask any Muslim.

Please document all instances of Catholics
murdering children and civilians within the last 4 decades.

You're joking right? Or you must be very young.

I can't think
of another method that indicates truer cowardice so your assertion is in
direct violation of what you claim to be Muslim faith. You are making
excuses for sin.

You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You say Catholics
would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their cause?
Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?
cesar
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 01 Apr 2004 12:57:10 AM
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:02:45 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:

You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You say Catholics
would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their cause?
Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?

As if the IRA is a *world-wide* constant threat as the suicide bomber,
we're all "infidels", fairy-tale believing, "martyr", Jehad determined
"God willing!" sad tiny blackened - destroyed souls we're dealing
with. Aren't you American, cesar? Do you feel more threatened by the
IRA on a daily basis - or the Al-Queda? Come on.
Dani
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 01 Apr 2004 07:09:25 AM
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:02:45 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You say

Catholics

would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their cause?
Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?


As if the IRA is a *world-wide* constant threat as the suicide bomber,
we're all "infidels", fairy-tale believing, "martyr", Jehad determined
"God willing!" sad tiny blackened - destroyed souls we're dealing
with. Aren't you American, cesar? Do you feel more threatened by the
IRA on a daily basis - or the Al-Queda? Come on.

Dani

Dani,
The premise made by the poster was that Catholics don't bomb innocent women
and children in their "religious" war. My point is that a bomber is a
bomber. There is no way a bomber can control who gets killed. It is
indiscriminate.
As for Muslim fundamentalists bombing non-Israeli targets, there is no
evidence that Hamas nor Islamic Jihad ever did that. Al Qaeda was the one
who did that and the other Islamic organizations have distanced themselves
from Al Qaeda. So who is Al Qaeda, really? They are as mysterious and
illusive as phantoms in the night. Their only agenda is to incite holy war
and nothing less. Al Qaeda IS the DEVIL.
cesar
.
User: "Anon Ymous"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 01 Apr 2004 03:26:47 PM
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:02:45 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You say

Catholics

would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their cause?
Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?


As if the IRA is a *world-wide* constant threat as the suicide bomber,
we're all "infidels", fairy-tale believing, "martyr", Jehad determined
"God willing!" sad tiny blackened - destroyed souls we're dealing
with. Aren't you American, cesar? Do you feel more threatened by the
IRA on a daily basis - or the Al-Queda? Come on.

Dani


Dani,

The premise made by the poster was that Catholics don't bomb innocent women
and children in their "religious" war. My point is that a bomber is a
bomber. There is no way a bomber can control who gets killed. It is
indiscriminate.

As for Muslim fundamentalists bombing non-Israeli targets, there is no
evidence that Hamas nor Islamic Jihad ever did that. Al Qaeda was the one
who did that and the other Islamic organizations have distanced themselves
from Al Qaeda. So who is Al Qaeda, really? They are as mysterious and
illusive as phantoms in the night. Their only agenda is to incite holy war
and nothing less. Al Qaeda IS the DEVIL.

One way cesar/tyk shows that he knows nothing about religion,
spirituality or the bible is by labeling anything he doesnt like as
the devil, the antichrist, satan or associated with one of the above.
Sometimes it's me. Sometimes it's The U.S. Military. Sometimes it's
the president. Sometimes it's the God of Israel. Sometimes it's the
meek. Basically, it's whatever fits his kooky ego projections on that
particular day. Today, because he's talking to Dani, it's Al Qaeda
who Im sure he will argue only serves the great beast while all the
nice muslims dont like what Al Qaeda does (even though they literally
dance in the streets when Al Qaeda pulls off a doozy).
Unfortunately for anti-American bigots like tyk and eric, Al Qaeda's
numbers of trained terrorists are shrinking--not growing. Combined
with a world-wide hunt, security-mindedness in the U.S. is at an all
time high. Since the few remaining nutcases can no longer strike at
the U.S., they've taken to picking on weak countries who never
anticipated terrorist activities (like Spain), and to making empty
threats against the U.S. to try to scare the general public. Even if
the remaining Al Qaeda managed to pull off another 9/11, it wouldnt be
nearly as dangerous as the fear they generate (thus the name
terrorists, and not just murderers). We simply have to stop fearing
vague, empty threats while maintaining vigilance and go on with our
lives.
Al Qaeda is not the "DEVIL" any more than the meek are those given
over to the A.C. Al Qaeda has lost. They are in their death throes.
The whole world is against them, and soon they will cease to exist
except for fear-mongers like cesar/tyk to use in scary stories. He
calls them "illusive as phantoms" oooooo...scary! I call them
desperate--as desperate as turkeys the day before thanksgiving.
Or maybe, they'll exist in a severely reduced capacity when someone
like tyk (but with balls) who demonizes his or her antagonists as the
"great satan" decides to blow themselves up on a bus in Egypt.
S~
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 01 Apr 2004 04:04:32 PM
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:02:45 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You say

Catholics

would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their

cause?

Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?


As if the IRA is a *world-wide* constant threat as the suicide bomber,
we're all "infidels", fairy-tale believing, "martyr", Jehad determined
"God willing!" sad tiny blackened - destroyed souls we're dealing
with. Aren't you American, cesar? Do you feel more threatened by the
IRA on a daily basis - or the Al-Queda? Come on.

Dani


Dani,

The premise made by the poster was that Catholics don't bomb innocent

women

and children in their "religious" war. My point is that a bomber is a
bomber. There is no way a bomber can control who gets killed. It is
indiscriminate.

As for Muslim fundamentalists bombing non-Israeli targets, there is no
evidence that Hamas nor Islamic Jihad ever did that. Al Qaeda was the

one

who did that and the other Islamic organizations have distanced

themselves

from Al Qaeda. So who is Al Qaeda, really? They are as mysterious and
illusive as phantoms in the night. Their only agenda is to incite holy

war

and nothing less. Al Qaeda IS the DEVIL.


One way cesar/tyk shows that he knows nothing about religion,
spirituality or the bible is by labeling anything he doesnt like as
the devil, the antichrist, satan or associated with one of the above.
Sometimes it's me. Sometimes it's The U.S. Military. Sometimes it's
the president. Sometimes it's the God of Israel. Sometimes it's the
meek. Basically, it's whatever fits his kooky ego projections on that
particular day. Today, because he's talking to Dani, it's Al Qaeda
who Im sure he will argue only serves the great beast while all the
nice muslims dont like what Al Qaeda does (even though they literally
dance in the streets when Al Qaeda pulls off a doozy).

Unfortunately for anti-American bigots like tyk and eric, Al Qaeda's
numbers of trained terrorists are shrinking--not growing. Combined
with a world-wide hunt, security-mindedness in the U.S. is at an all
time high. Since the few remaining nutcases can no longer strike at
the U.S., they've taken to picking on weak countries who never
anticipated terrorist activities (like Spain), and to making empty
threats against the U.S. to try to scare the general public. Even if
the remaining Al Qaeda managed to pull off another 9/11, it wouldnt be
nearly as dangerous as the fear they generate (thus the name
terrorists, and not just murderers). We simply have to stop fearing
vague, empty threats while maintaining vigilance and go on with our
lives.

Al Qaeda is not the "DEVIL" any more than the meek are those given
over to the A.C. Al Qaeda has lost. They are in their death throes.
The whole world is against them, and soon they will cease to exist
except for fear-mongers like cesar/tyk to use in scary stories. He
calls them "illusive as phantoms" oooooo...scary! I call them
desperate--as desperate as turkeys the day before thanksgiving.

Or maybe, they'll exist in a severely reduced capacity when someone
like tyk (but with balls) who demonizes his or her antagonists as the
"great satan" decides to blow themselves up on a bus in Egypt.

S~

I am not anti-anything. I am for Peace and for the Salvation of Souls. YOU
are painting me as anti-American and anti-Semite because YOU don't like to
hear my interpretations of the prophecies. YOU have the Beast mentality that
if one was not with you then they are against you; if one was critical of
your Administration then they are anti-American and anti-Semitic. You are
DEAF and BLIND to any TRUTH that YOU don't agree with.
cesar
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 01 Apr 2004 04:15:25 PM
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:02:45 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You say

Catholics

would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their

cause?

Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?


As if the IRA is a *world-wide* constant threat as the suicide

bomber,

we're all "infidels", fairy-tale believing, "martyr", Jehad

determined

"God willing!" sad tiny blackened - destroyed souls we're dealing
with. Aren't you American, cesar? Do you feel more threatened by

the

IRA on a daily basis - or the Al-Queda? Come on.

Dani


Dani,

The premise made by the poster was that Catholics don't bomb innocent

women

and children in their "religious" war. My point is that a bomber is

a

bomber. There is no way a bomber can control who gets killed. It is
indiscriminate.

As for Muslim fundamentalists bombing non-Israeli targets, there is

no

evidence that Hamas nor Islamic Jihad ever did that. Al Qaeda was the

one

who did that and the other Islamic organizations have distanced

themselves

from Al Qaeda. So who is Al Qaeda, really? They are as mysterious

and

illusive as phantoms in the night. Their only agenda is to incite

holy

war

and nothing less. Al Qaeda IS the DEVIL.


One way cesar/tyk shows that he knows nothing about religion,
spirituality or the bible is by labeling anything he doesnt like as
the devil, the antichrist, satan or associated with one of the above.
Sometimes it's me. Sometimes it's The U.S. Military. Sometimes it's
the president. Sometimes it's the God of Israel. Sometimes it's the
meek. Basically, it's whatever fits his kooky ego projections on that
particular day. Today, because he's talking to Dani, it's Al Qaeda
who Im sure he will argue only serves the great beast while all the
nice muslims dont like what Al Qaeda does (even though they literally
dance in the streets when Al Qaeda pulls off a doozy).

Unfortunately for anti-American bigots like tyk and eric, Al Qaeda's
numbers of trained terrorists are shrinking--not growing. Combined
with a world-wide hunt, security-mindedness in the U.S. is at an all
time high. Since the few remaining nutcases can no longer strike at
the U.S., they've taken to picking on weak countries who never
anticipated terrorist activities (like Spain), and to making empty
threats against the U.S. to try to scare the general public. Even if
the remaining Al Qaeda managed to pull off another 9/11, it wouldnt be
nearly as dangerous as the fear they generate (thus the name
terrorists, and not just murderers). We simply have to stop fearing
vague, empty threats while maintaining vigilance and go on with our
lives.

Al Qaeda is not the "DEVIL" any more than the meek are those given
over to the A.C. Al Qaeda has lost. They are in their death throes.
The whole world is against them, and soon they will cease to exist
except for fear-mongers like cesar/tyk to use in scary stories. He
calls them "illusive as phantoms" oooooo...scary! I call them
desperate--as desperate as turkeys the day before thanksgiving.

Or maybe, they'll exist in a severely reduced capacity when someone
like tyk (but with balls) who demonizes his or her antagonists as the
"great satan" decides to blow themselves up on a bus in Egypt.

S~


I am not anti-anything. I am for Peace and for the Salvation of Souls.

YOU

are painting me as anti-American and anti-Semite because YOU don't like to
hear my interpretations of the prophecies. YOU have the Beast mentality

that

if one was not with you then they are against you; if one was critical of
your Administration then they are anti-American and anti-Semitic. You are
DEAF and BLIND to any TRUTH that YOU don't agree with.

cesar

AND, may I add that you will not find ONE single post where I have ever been
hateful toward your country, its people or even the Bush Administration.
cesar
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Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 01 Apr 2004 04:40:57 PM
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:02:45 GMT, "cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote:


You are referring to the Intifadah? The suicide bombers? You

say

Catholics

would never cowardly bomb innocent women and children over their

cause?

Hmmm. Have you ever heard of the IRA?


As if the IRA is a *world-wide* constant threat as the suicide

bomber,

we're all "infidels", fairy-tale believing, "martyr", Jehad

determined

"God willing!" sad tiny blackened - destroyed souls we're dealing
with. Aren't you American, cesar? Do you feel more threatened by

the

IRA on a daily basis - or the Al-Queda? Come on.

Dani


Dani,

The premise made by the poster was that Catholics don't bomb

innocent

women

and children in their "religious" war. My point is that a bomber

is

a

bomber. There is no way a bomber can control who gets killed. It

is

indiscriminate.

As for Muslim fundamentalists bombing non-Israeli targets, there is

no

evidence that Hamas nor Islamic Jihad ever did that. Al Qaeda was

the

one

who did that and the other Islamic organizations have distanced

themselves

from Al Qaeda. So who is Al Qaeda, really? They are as mysterious

and

illusive as phantoms in the night. Their only agenda is to incite

holy

war

and nothing less. Al Qaeda IS the DEVIL.


One way cesar/tyk shows that he knows nothing about religion,
spirituality or the bible is by labeling anything he doesnt like as
the devil, the antichrist, satan or associated with one of the above.
Sometimes it's me. Sometimes it's The U.S. Military. Sometimes it's
the president. Sometimes it's the God of Israel. Sometimes it's the
meek. Basically, it's whatever fits his kooky ego projections on that
particular day. Today, because he's talking to Dani, it's Al Qaeda
who Im sure he will argue only serves the great beast while all the
nice muslims dont like what Al Qaeda does (even though they literally
dance in the streets when Al Qaeda pulls off a doozy).

Unfortunately for anti-American bigots like tyk and eric, Al Qaeda's
numbers of trained terrorists are shrinking--not growing. Combined
with a world-wide hunt, security-mindedness in the U.S. is at an all
time high. Since the few remaining nutcases can no longer strike at
the U.S., they've taken to picking on weak countries who never
anticipated terrorist activities (like Spain), and to making empty
threats against the U.S. to try to scare the general public. Even if
the remaining Al Qaeda managed to pull off another 9/11, it wouldnt be
nearly as dangerous as the fear they generate (thus the name
terrorists, and not just murderers). We simply have to stop fearing
vague, empty threats while maintaining vigilance and go on with our
lives.

Al Qaeda is not the "DEVIL" any more than the meek are those given
over to the A.C. Al Qaeda has lost. They are in their death throes.
The whole world is against them, and soon they will cease to exist
except for fear-mongers like cesar/tyk to use in scary stories. He
calls them "illusive as phantoms" oooooo...scary! I call them
desperate--as desperate as turkeys the day before thanksgiving.

Or maybe, they'll exist in a severely reduced capacity when someone
like tyk (but with balls) who demonizes his or her antagonists as the
"great satan" decides to blow themselves up on a bus in Egypt.

S~


I am not anti-anything. I am for Peace and for the Salvation of Souls.

YOU

are painting me as anti-American and anti-Semite because YOU don't like

to

hear my interpretations of the prophecies. YOU have the Beast mentality

that

if one was not with you then they are against you; if one was critical

of

your Administration then they are anti-American and anti-Semitic. You

are

DEAF and BLIND to any TRUTH that YOU don't agree with.

cesar



AND, may I add that you will not find ONE single post where I have ever

been

hateful toward your country, its people or even the Bush Administration.

cesar

And ditto towards Israel or Jews. I have no hate whatosoever towards anyone
or any group. Not even against Satan himself, who is the lord master of all
that is Hateful.
I challenge you to find one post that shows otherwise, Mr. Costello.
What I hate are sufferings and injustice; false accusations, lies and
deceit. What I hate is Hate itself.
cesar
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User: "Krib"

Title: Re: Nostradamus was right about one thing 02 Apr 2004 01:49:37 AM
"cesar" <cesar@no.email> wrote in message
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What I hate are sufferings and injustice; false accusations, lies and
deceit. What I hate is Hate itself.

Most of which you practice yourself, hypocrisy is not unknown to you
is it? so why do you keep appearing under different guises? do your
constant failures in the past embarrass you?
--
krib
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